From sitaramc at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 08:29:01 2008
From: sitaramc at gmail.com (Sitaram Chamarty)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:01 +0530
Subject: [Vimperator] using Ctrl-V+some-key inside a macro
Message-ID: <2e24e5b90806010829o49ea3b59xfc0a863349f491ce@mail.gmail.com>

I was trying to record a macro (using q, then some letter).  In this
sequence, I wish to embed a Ctrl-V, then "j" (which otherwise has its
usual function).

Sadly, this doesn't play back; play back appears to stop at the point
this is reached.  Are there any ways to embed "pass throughs" into
macros?

From ovidiu at devstudio.eu  Mon Jun  2 01:34:05 2008
From: ovidiu at devstudio.eu (Ovidiu C.)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:34:05 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] FaviconizeTab
Message-ID: <4843B07D.4000801@devstudio.eu>

Hi,

I wrote a tiny script that integrates Vimperator (1.0) with the
FaviconizeTab extension. The script adds the fav[toggle] command.

-- 
Ovidiu C.
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From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 02:24:23 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:24:23 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] how to yank text inside webpage
In-Reply-To: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
References: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843BC47.3060200@gmail.com>

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When I want to copy some text, I usually start by searching with '/' the
beginning of it, then I press 'i' to go in CARET mode, 'v' to go in
VISUAL mode. Then I can select my text. When I'm done, I type y to copy
it, and I paste it wherever I want to.

bill lam wrote:
> How to copy text inside webpage into system clipboards (+ or *)? I found that it 
> only copy the URL when highlight and press y.
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

- --
Christophe-Marie
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From ovidiu at devstudio.eu  Mon Jun  2 02:27:22 2008
From: ovidiu at devstudio.eu (Ovidiu C.)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:27:22 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] how to yank text inside webpage
In-Reply-To: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
References: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843BCFA.90608@devstudio.eu>

bill lam wrote:
> How to copy text inside webpage into system clipboards (+ or *)? I found that it 
> only copy the URL when highlight and press y.

In Vimperator 1.0 you can press "i" to go into caret mode, press "v" to
go in visual mode (similar to Vim's), move around to select the text and
then press y to yank.

-- 
Ovidiu C.

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From dpb at driftaway.org  Mon Jun  2 02:33:19 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:33:19 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/1 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
> Hello all,
> I have run Vimperator on Win98 and Vista using .vimperatorrc files in both
> cases without a problem.  I have now purchased a Vista Home Premium (32bit
> OS) computer where as far as I know, clicking on Start, right clicking on my
> username, and clicking on open takes one to one's home directory.  In there
> I have created the .vimperatorrc file in exactly the same way as it was in
> the other two Windows machines.  However, I cannot get Vimperator to read
> the file (properties for the file give the file name as .vimperatorrc and
> the location as C:\Users\MyUserName).  I created the file with Notepad and
> while it appears as .vimperatorrc text document, clicking on details in the
> properties box shows a name field in which it appears as .vimperatorrc.txt.
> While I cannot see any way to remove the .txt, I am inclined to think that
> this has nothing to do with it.  Does anyone who has and knows Vista know
> exactly where to place this file or what might be happening to it in my
> case?  Any help would be most appreciated as I have come to rely on this
> add-on for many things.  I have restarted Firefox and rebooted several times
> trying to get Vimperator to recognize the file.

Either use an editor that doesn't automatically add extensions (like Vim ;)),
or go to your explorer settings and make it show the extensions,
then you can remove it. (Don't ask me where it is, I haven't used
Windows in ages.)

--
Daniel

From dpb at driftaway.org  Mon Jun  2 02:44:02 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:44:02 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Status bar color on Vimperator 0.5.3
In-Reply-To: <cf06edfd0805301007i10e037d3na84bce926c337c3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf06edfd0805301007i10e037d3na84bce926c337c3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806020244q151050deob2436d3415095ecf@mail.gmail.com>

2008/5/30 Nick Parker <nickp at developernotes.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I created a folder called chrome within my %home% directory and added a
> userChrome.css file to modify the color of the status bar, however it
> doesn't appear to be loading any of my color changes.  Is the ability to
> change the color available within Vimperator on version 0.5.3?  Did I miss
> something?  Thank you.

It needs to be in the firefox pref dir/chrome.

--
Daniel

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 03:01:43 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:01:43 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806020301v31dd4af7o1503dbc74d81bf93@mail.gmail.com>

I thought on Windows, it was _vimperatorrc and not .vimperatorrc

If notepad always appends the .txt extension, you should use another editor.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have run Vimperator on Win98 and Vista using .vimperatorrc files in both
> cases without a problem.  I have now purchased a Vista Home Premium (32bit
> OS) computer where as far as I know, clicking on Start, right clicking on my
> username, and clicking on open takes one to one's home directory.  In there
> I have created the .vimperatorrc file in exactly the same way as it was in
> the other two Windows machines.  However, I cannot get Vimperator to read
> the file (properties for the file give the file name as .vimperatorrc and
> the location as C:\Users\MyUserName).  I created the file with Notepad and
> while it appears as .vimperatorrc text document, clicking on details in the
> properties box shows a name field in which it appears as .vimperatorrc.txt.
> While I cannot see any way to remove the .txt, I am inclined to think that
> this has nothing to do with it.  Does anyone who has and knows Vista know
> exactly where to place this file or what might be happening to it in my
> case?  Any help would be most appreciated as I have come to rely on this
> add-on for many things.  I have restarted Firefox and rebooted several times
> trying to get Vimperator to recognize the file.
>
> Thanks for any comments or input of any kind!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>



-- 
Work hard at whatever you do! (Ecc. 9. 10a, CEV)
Mahefa

From tocer.deng at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 03:12:42 2008
From: tocer.deng at gmail.com (tocer)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:12:42 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] how to yank text inside webpage
In-Reply-To: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
References: <484216E0.4020805@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843C79A.4050300@gmail.com>

bill lam wrote::
> How to copy text inside webpage into system clipboards (+ or *)? I found that it
> only copy the URL when highlight and press y.

You can select text inside webpage with mouse and then press Y key. Or you can 
enter visual mode pressing i and v key, then select text and press y key.

--Tocer

From tocer.deng at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 03:31:54 2008
From: tocer.deng at gmail.com (tocer)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:31:54 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] using Ctrl-V+some-key inside a macro
In-Reply-To: <2e24e5b90806010829o49ea3b59xfc0a863349f491ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e24e5b90806010829o49ea3b59xfc0a863349f491ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843CC1A.5010207@gmail.com>

Sitaram Chamarty wrote::
> I was trying to record a macro (using q, then some letter).  In this
> sequence, I wish to embed a Ctrl-V, then "j" (which otherwise has its
> usual function).
>
> Sadly, this doesn't play back; play back appears to stop at the point
> this is reached.  Are there any ways to embed "pass throughs" into
> macros?

a ugly way is to use :normal command to execute a sequence of keys. e.g.

:normal "<c-v><c-o>"

but I don't know how to get the content of macro register, so you have to type 
the all content of macro in the command line.

--Tocer

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  2 03:32:16 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:32:16 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FaviconizeTab
In-Reply-To: <4843B07D.4000801@devstudio.eu>
References: <4843B07D.4000801@devstudio.eu>
Message-ID: <4843CC30.8060003@gmx.net>

Ovidiu C. wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I wrote a tiny script that integrates Vimperator (1.0) with the
> FaviconizeTab extension. The script adds the fav[toggle] command.

Hi,

thanks,

will add that script to the homepage in the next few days.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  2 03:40:38 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:40:38 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806020301v31dd4af7o1503dbc74d81bf93@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ba1fac40806020301v31dd4af7o1503dbc74d81bf93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843CE26.1030707@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> I thought on Windows, it was _vimperatorrc and not .vimperatorrc

It uses _vimperatorrc there first, then .vimperatorrc.

From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 07:04:35 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:04:35 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] starts FF with blank page
Message-ID: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com>

Thanks to  Christophe-Marie, Ovidiu, Tocer for help on yank.

I normally start FF with a blank page (about:blank), however FF now starts and 
re-open all pages before closing last time. How to restore the old behavior, 
that is, FF startup with a blank page and nothing else.

Regards,

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  2 07:12:00 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:12:00 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] starts FF with blank page
In-Reply-To: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com>
References: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>

bill lam wrote:

> Thanks to  Christophe-Marie, Ovidiu, Tocer for help on yank.
> 
> I normally start FF with a blank page (about:blank), however FF now starts and 
> re-open all pages before closing last time. How to restore the old behavior, 
> that is, FF startup with a blank page and nothing else.

Quit with ZQ or :qall.

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Mon Jun  2 07:19:47 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:19:47 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] starts FF with blank page
In-Reply-To: <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>
References: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com> <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <48440183.2000302@tedpavlic.com>

>> I normally start FF with a blank page (about:blank), however FF now
>> starts and re-open all pages before closing last time. How to
>> restore the old behavior, that is, FF startup with a blank page and
>> nothing else.
> 
> Quit with ZQ or :qall. 

This is a very common question (and answer).

Are there ever any plans to make this the default behavior when closing 
a FF window? That is, even if you're comfortable with using Vimperator 
from the keyboard, you may be so used to closing windows using your 
GUI's standard method. It would be nice if you could set vimperator to 
do a ZQ (or :qall) whenever closed/exited that way... No?

--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  2 07:25:47 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:25:47 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] starts FF with blank page
In-Reply-To: <48440183.2000302@tedpavlic.com>
References: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com> <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>
	<48440183.2000302@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <484402EB.8040002@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

>>> I normally start FF with a blank page (about:blank), however FF now
>>> starts and re-open all pages before closing last time. How to
>>> restore the old behavior, that is, FF startup with a blank page and
>>> nothing else.
>> 
>> Quit with ZQ or :qall. 
> 
> This is a very common question (and answer).
> 
> Are there ever any plans to make this the default behavior when closing 
> a FF window? That is, even if you're comfortable with using Vimperator 
> from the keyboard, you may be so used to closing windows using your 
> GUI's standard method. It would be nice if you could set vimperator to 
> do a ZQ (or :qall) whenever closed/exited that way... No?

If i receive a well-written patch (including documentation), for a
:set [no]savesession option, i will certainly apply it. But right now,
my focus is on other parts of vimperator/muttator.

--
Martin

From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 07:48:43 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:48:43 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] starts FF with blank page
In-Reply-To: <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>
References: <4843FDF3.4030201@gmail.com> <4843FFB0.5090800@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4844084B.5040902@gmail.com>

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> bill lam wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to  Christophe-Marie, Ovidiu, Tocer for help on yank.
>>
>> I normally start FF with a blank page (about:blank), however FF now starts and 
>> re-open all pages before closing last time. How to restore the old behavior, 
>> that is, FF startup with a blank page and nothing else.
> 
> Quit with ZQ or :qall.

Thanks! This reminds me of the first and most important command when beginning 
to learn vi is :q!

regards,

From informationeagle at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 06:41:03 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:41:03 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9917f4490806020641h5f3365d8q6d1962143382221c@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think that notepad has created the file with the extension .txt at
the end although in that one box it gives that impression.  I say that
because I can change the file name and it appears as .vimperatorrc. As far
as I know, Notepad does not attatch the .txt extension to the file and it
doesn't appear as such except in this one obscure section of properties
where one wouldn't even normally look.  I'll look more closely and double
check but I've used Notepad quite a lot to do this type of thing on other
Windows machines at that is not it's behavior. I really would appreciate it
if someone with Windows Vista Home Premium who has installed a .vimperatorrc
could confirm how he placed it.  I recall something on XP about having to
create a $Home variable or something, but I did that years ago.  I have
tried both .vimperatorrc and _vimperatorrc and neither is working.  I hope
someone can help me solve this one. :-(

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org> wrote:

> 2008/6/1 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
> > Hello all,
> > I have run Vimperator on Win98 and Vista using .vimperatorrc files in
> both
> > cases without a problem.  I have now purchased a Vista Home Premium
> (32bit
> > OS) computer where as far as I know, clicking on Start, right clicking on
> my
> > username, and clicking on open takes one to one's home directory.  In
> there
> > I have created the .vimperatorrc file in exactly the same way as it was
> in
> > the other two Windows machines.  However, I cannot get Vimperator to read
> > the file (properties for the file give the file name as .vimperatorrc and
> > the location as C:\Users\MyUserName).  I created the file with Notepad
> and
> > while it appears as .vimperatorrc text document, clicking on details in
> the
> > properties box shows a name field in which it appears as
> .vimperatorrc.txt.
> > While I cannot see any way to remove the .txt, I am inclined to think
> that
> > this has nothing to do with it.  Does anyone who has and knows Vista know
> > exactly where to place this file or what might be happening to it in my
> > case?  Any help would be most appreciated as I have come to rely on this
> > add-on for many things.  I have restarted Firefox and rebooted several
> times
> > trying to get Vimperator to recognize the file.
>
> Either use an editor that doesn't automatically add extensions (like Vim
> ;)),
> or go to your explorer settings and make it show the extensions,
> then you can remove it. (Don't ask me where it is, I haven't used
> Windows in ages.)
>
> --
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
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From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 15:30:05 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:30:05 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806020641h5f3365d8q6d1962143382221c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>	<dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9917f4490806020641h5f3365d8q6d1962143382221c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4844746D.5050307@gmail.com>

Edward Gomez wrote:
> I don't think that notepad has created the file with the extension .txt at
> the end although in that one box it gives that impression.  I say that
> because I can change the file name and it appears as .vimperatorrc. As far
> as I know, Notepad does not attatch the .txt extension to the file and it
> doesn't appear as such except in this one obscure section of properties
> where one wouldn't even normally look.  I'll look more closely and double
> check but I've used Notepad quite a lot to do this type of thing on other
> Windows machines at that is not it's behavior. I really would appreciate it
> if someone with Windows Vista Home Premium who has installed a .vimperatorrc
> could confirm how he placed it.  I recall something on XP about having to
> create a $Home variable or something, but I did that years ago.  I have
> tried both .vimperatorrc and _vimperatorrc and neither is working.  I hope
> someone can help me solve this one. :-(
> 
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org> wrote:
> 
>> 2008/6/1 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I have run Vimperator on Win98 and Vista using .vimperatorrc files in
>> both
>>> cases without a problem.  I have now purchased a Vista Home Premium
>> (32bit
>>> OS) computer where as far as I know, clicking on Start, right clicking on
>> my
>>> username, and clicking on open takes one to one's home directory.  In
>> there
>>> I have created the .vimperatorrc file in exactly the same way as it was
>> in
>>> the other two Windows machines.  However, I cannot get Vimperator to read
>>> the file (properties for the file give the file name as .vimperatorrc and
>>> the location as C:\Users\MyUserName).  I created the file with Notepad
>> and
>>> while it appears as .vimperatorrc text document, clicking on details in
>> the
>>> properties box shows a name field in which it appears as
>> .vimperatorrc.txt.
>>> While I cannot see any way to remove the .txt, I am inclined to think
>> that
>>> this has nothing to do with it.  Does anyone who has and knows Vista know
>>> exactly where to place this file or what might be happening to it in my
>>> case?  Any help would be most appreciated as I have come to rely on this
>>> add-on for many things.  I have restarted Firefox and rebooted several
>> times
>>> trying to get Vimperator to recognize the file.
>> Either use an editor that doesn't automatically add extensions (like Vim
>> ;)),
>> or go to your explorer settings and make it show the extensions,
>> then you can remove it. (Don't ask me where it is, I haven't used
>> Windows in ages.)

I guess it is the file explorer (not editor) that add the .txt extension. 
Another way to remove .txt extension is to enter dos-command prompt mode by 
excuting "command" or "cmd" command, cd to the folder, use "ren" command
   ren foobar.txt foobar

HTH


From vimperator at vanhoecke.org  Mon Jun  2 15:57:10 2008
From: vimperator at vanhoecke.org (Guido Van Hoecke)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:57:10 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <4844746D.5050307@gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>	<dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com><9917f4490806020641h5f3365d8q6d1962143382221c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4844746D.5050307@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48447AC6.6080809@vanhoecke.org>

> Edward Gomez wrote:
>> I don't think that notepad has created the file with the extension .txt at
>> the end although in that one box it gives that impression.  I say that
>> because I can change the file name and it appears as .vimperatorrc. As far
>> as I know, Notepad does not attatch the .txt extension to the file and it
>> doesn't appear as such except in this one obscure section of properties

Well, I thought this was a good excuse to install Vista on a spare disk.
Installed FF3 rc1 and vimperatorrc.
Created a _vimperatorrc using notepad.
Started firefox: it ignored my _vimperatorrc.
Opened a cmd in c:\users\guivho
Did a dir, and yes, there it was: _vimperatorrc.txt
A .txt extension was added! (Don't use bl..dy nothinpad, use vim!)
Did a rename to get rid of the extension.
Start firefox and, bingo!, the rc is read and executed.

So you probably have the same prblem.
Just rename it in a cmd window, and you're set to go!

Have Fun,

Guido.


From informationeagle at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 16:12:19 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:12:19 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] vimperatorrc: Home Directory in Vista?
In-Reply-To: <4844746D.5050307@gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490805311759k1b0dd630te88e3f7cb49c5e58@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806020233j780a3de8y5a92cee5f2765d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9917f4490806020641h5f3365d8q6d1962143382221c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4844746D.5050307@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9917f4490806021612u63085ab3ocb41e8ff35e0d4b7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bill,
     It turns out that both you and Daniel were right, I just couldn't
believe my eyes.  The file really did have the .txt extention appended
automatically by I'm still not sure what.  In this regard, I *believe* that
Notepad and XP behaved differently.  It took me a while because I am only in
my second day of using Vista and at first I could not even find the command
prompt. :-)  What is very confusing is that Windows Explorer under Vista
shows the file as .vimperatorrc and even when one hits rename (using the
gui) it still shows it as .vimperatorrc and not .vimperatorrc.txt.

     At any rate, I am happy to say that you solved it for me right before I
started tampering with the environment.  Thank you very much and thank you
all for your help; after spending quite some time with this, I am a happy
camper now.

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM, bill lam <cbill.lam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Edward Gomez wrote:
> > I don't think that notepad has created the file with the extension .txt
> at
> > the end although in that one box it gives that impression.  I say that
> > because I can change the file name and it appears as .vimperatorrc. As
> far
> > as I know, Notepad does not attatch the .txt extension to the file and it
> > doesn't appear as such except in this one obscure section of properties
> > where one wouldn't even normally look.  I'll look more closely and double
> > check but I've used Notepad quite a lot to do this type of thing on other
> > Windows machines at that is not it's behavior. I really would appreciate
> it
> > if someone with Windows Vista Home Premium who has installed a
> .vimperatorrc
> > could confirm how he placed it.  I recall something on XP about having to
> > create a $Home variable or something, but I did that years ago.  I have
> > tried both .vimperatorrc and _vimperatorrc and neither is working.  I
> hope
> > someone can help me solve this one. :-(
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> 2008/6/1 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> I have run Vimperator on Win98 and Vista using .vimperatorrc files in
> >> both
> >>> cases without a problem.  I have now purchased a Vista Home Premium
> >> (32bit
> >>> OS) computer where as far as I know, clicking on Start, right clicking
> on
> >> my
> >>> username, and clicking on open takes one to one's home directory.  In
> >> there
> >>> I have created the .vimperatorrc file in exactly the same way as it was
> >> in
> >>> the other two Windows machines.  However, I cannot get Vimperator to
> read
> >>> the file (properties for the file give the file name as .vimperatorrc
> and
> >>> the location as C:\Users\MyUserName).  I created the file with Notepad
> >> and
> >>> while it appears as .vimperatorrc text document, clicking on details in
> >> the
> >>> properties box shows a name field in which it appears as
> >> .vimperatorrc.txt.
> >>> While I cannot see any way to remove the .txt, I am inclined to think
> >> that
> >>> this has nothing to do with it.  Does anyone who has and knows Vista
> know
> >>> exactly where to place this file or what might be happening to it in my
> >>> case?  Any help would be most appreciated as I have come to rely on
> this
> >>> add-on for many things.  I have restarted Firefox and rebooted several
> >> times
> >>> trying to get Vimperator to recognize the file.
> >> Either use an editor that doesn't automatically add extensions (like Vim
> >> ;)),
> >> or go to your explorer settings and make it show the extensions,
> >> then you can remove it. (Don't ask me where it is, I haven't used
> >> Windows in ages.)
>
> I guess it is the file explorer (not editor) that add the .txt extension.
> Another way to remove .txt extension is to enter dos-command prompt mode by
> excuting "command" or "cmd" command, cd to the folder, use "ren" command
>   ren foobar.txt foobar
>
> HTH
>
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  2 19:28:44 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:28:44 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Grammer on the help page.
In-Reply-To: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org>
References: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org>
Message-ID: <4844AC5C.4030205@gmx.net>

Tobiah wrote:

> If anyone cares, on the help page under 'Mappings' there
> is a sentence that starts:
> 
> "The denotion of modifier keys...".  
> 
> The proper form of the word would be 'denotement'.

Thanks! I like learning better/correct English expressions.

But the :help has been rewritten for the 1.0 release, and there
I can't find any occurance of "denotion" anymore.

--
Martin

From dteslenko at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 01:14:27 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:14:27 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] pass-through and zoom mode "smart" toggling
Message-ID: <91325fec0806030114ieffe418we1c9a74bffcc41f7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!
I have following feature request/proposal/topic for discussion:
Now, as for vimperator 1.0, when one switches from one tab to another, zoom mode
for first tab goes off and pass-through mode persists.

This behavior seems bit inconvenient for me: it seems more reasonable to
keep zoom mode for page and auto-turn-off pass-through mode.
Here's my reasons:
* when you set zoom for page, switched to another tab and
then return back you would either close that page or continue reading;
and if you
choose to continue reading I bet you would want zoom level you already set
* as for pass-through mode, it's reasonable to deactivate it when you switch
away from page, because pass-through mode is something page-bound. It's
ajax or flash on the current page made you enable pass-through and you don't
need it anymore when you've switched to another page.

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From dteslenko at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 01:59:21 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:59:21 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] page element focus
Message-ID: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!
Is there a way to prevent page elements (line edits mostly)  from
receiving focus
when one switches from one page to another?
I'm interested in it because when I switch to another page with, say :tn
and then start scrolling down with Ctrl+f instead of scrolling i get
FF's search box popped. Maybe there's a way to auto-press Esc on
buffer switch to steal focus from page element?

It's such an annoying thing so I think someone would done it already.

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From jenfr03 at student.vxu.se  Tue Jun  3 02:17:34 2008
From: jenfr03 at student.vxu.se (mandolin)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:17:34 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Grammer on the help page.
In-Reply-To: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org>
References: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org>
Message-ID: <20080603091734.GA2469@secondcastle.se>

Tobiah, Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:08:05PM -0700:
> If anyone cares, on the help page under 'Mappings' there
> is a sentence that starts:
> 
> "The denotion of modifier keys...".  
> 
> The proper form of the word would be 'denotement'.
> 
> Pedantic Pete.

Not to be pedantic, but it's "grammar", not "grammer". :D

-- 
mandolin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 03:20:00 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:20:00 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] pass-through and zoom mode "smart" toggling
In-Reply-To: <91325fec0806030114ieffe418we1c9a74bffcc41f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806030114ieffe418we1c9a74bffcc41f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48451AD0.9020106@gmx.net>

Dmitry Teslenko wrote:

> Hello!
> I have following feature request/proposal/topic for discussion:
> Now, as for vimperator 1.0, when one switches from one tab to another, zoom mode
> for first tab goes off and pass-through mode persists.

:set! browser.zoom.siteSpecific=false fixes the first problem. I thought about
overriding this setting with vimperator, but maybe some people like that
behavior.

> * as for pass-through mode, it's reasonable to deactivate it when you switch
> away from page, because pass-through mode is something page-bound. It's
> ajax or flash on the current page made you enable pass-through and you don't
> need it anymore when you've switched to another page.

Well, pass-through mode is usually for people who work with keyboard-only, for them
<esc>gt to switch tabs is reasonable. Also there are TabSelect autocommands
which can do just what you want, look into the wiki.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 03:22:24 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:22:24 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] page element focus
In-Reply-To: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>

Dmitry Teslenko wrote:

> Hello!
> Is there a way to prevent page elements (line edits mostly)  from
> receiving focus
> when one switches from one page to another?
> I'm interested in it because when I switch to another page with, say :tn
> and then start scrolling down with Ctrl+f instead of scrolling i get
> FF's search box popped. Maybe there's a way to auto-press Esc on
> buffer switch to steal focus from page element?

Hmm, actually that behavior should be default for vimp 1.0, but i rather thought
about removing the focuscontent behavior, as more people complain
about the textfields NOT having focus.

--
martin

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 05:02:42 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:02:42 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] page element focus
In-Reply-To: <48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>
References: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>
	<48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806030502x54aa6024re1f3bc640bdd9a0b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/3 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> Hmm, actually that behavior should be default for vimp 1.0, but i rather thought
> about removing the focuscontent behavior, as more people complain
> about the textfields NOT having focus.
>

Exactly. Before I installed vimperator, I often would switch between
two tabs, typing in one of them. Often that is while helping someone
on some mailing list or other (I subscribe to 40+). I cannot do that
easily in vimperator.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From dteslenko at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 05:45:48 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:45:48 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] page element focus
In-Reply-To: <48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>
References: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>
	<48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <91325fec0806030545y5d42dc4dhb8afa5256c2bf9f0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> Hmm, actually that behavior should be default for vimp 1.0, but i rather thought
> about removing the focuscontent behavior, as more people complain
> about the textfields NOT having focus.
Thanks!
I'm using FF from at least 3 places and forget to upgrade to 1.0 one
installation.
That means this behavior should be configurable :)
As for me disabling this feature means extra Esc everytime I open page in
new tab, so I'm strongly against.

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 05:56:57 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:56:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] page element focus
In-Reply-To: <91325fec0806030545y5d42dc4dhb8afa5256c2bf9f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806030159t75d288fcr6de8df234344ae02@mail.gmail.com>	<48451B60.4090300@gmx.net>
	<91325fec0806030545y5d42dc4dhb8afa5256c2bf9f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48453F99.3020908@gmx.net>

Dmitry Teslenko wrote:

> That means this behavior should be configurable :)

Definitely, I propose :set [no]focuscontent, but I don't know if i
find the time for that in the near future, so patches welcome.

--
Martin

From dteslenko at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 06:06:51 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:06:51 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] pass-through and zoom mode "smart" toggling
In-Reply-To: <48451AD0.9020106@gmx.net>
References: <91325fec0806030114ieffe418we1c9a74bffcc41f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<48451AD0.9020106@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <91325fec0806030606sc367f0g74dfa87c005307bd@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> :set! browser.zoom.siteSpecific=false fixes the first problem. I thought about
> overriding this setting with vimperator, but maybe some people like that
> behavior.
Thanks! That's it.

> Well, pass-through mode is usually for people who work with keyboard-only, for them
> <esc>gt to switch tabs is reasonable. Also there are TabSelect autocommands
> which can do just what you want, look into the wiki.
I talk with these people in mind; about some cases when you work in pass-through
mode and tab-switching occurs w/o pressing <esc>something, i.e. opening pop-ups.
Here's use case: navigating elements in google's reader in pass-through mode
and opening new tab with their keyboard shortcut. Result is new tab to which
FF switches immediately and pass-through mode still active. You can't
browse this
page with pass-through and either can't switch back w/o turning it off.

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From buddha at the-annexe.net  Tue Jun  3 07:57:48 2008
From: buddha at the-annexe.net (Paul Sobey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:57:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Vimperator] Insert Mode and Webmail
Message-ID: <28089.82.150.99.2.1212505068.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>

Dear All,

I've just discovered Vimperator and really like it! I am having difficulty
with one particular feature, and wonder if you can help. Apologies if this
has been asked before - I had a quick look through the list archives and
couldn't see anything relevant.

I run my own webmail using Squirrelmail. This presents a folder list in
one frame, and a folder index/email viewer in the other. I have the folder
list frame set to auto-refresh every minute. I've noticed that when
writing an email in insert mode, if the folder list refreshes, insert mode
gets cancelled. I know I can use the gi command to get back to the text I
was editing, but it's frustrating, particularly if I don't notice, and
type a D or a H for example, losing my work.

Is there a way I can force Vimperator to keep the focus on the text box I
am typing in if a frame refresh is triggered?

Cheers,
Paul


From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 08:07:16 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:07:16 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Insert Mode and Webmail
In-Reply-To: <28089.82.150.99.2.1212505068.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
References: <28089.82.150.99.2.1212505068.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
Message-ID: <48455E24.8050104@gmx.net>

Paul Sobey wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> I've just discovered Vimperator and really like it! I am having difficulty
> with one particular feature, and wonder if you can help. Apologies if this
> has been asked before - I had a quick look through the list archives and
> couldn't see anything relevant.
> 
> I run my own webmail using Squirrelmail. This presents a folder list in
> one frame, and a folder index/email viewer in the other. I have the folder
> list frame set to auto-refresh every minute. I've noticed that when
> writing an email in insert mode, if the folder list refreshes, insert mode
> gets cancelled. I know I can use the gi command to get back to the text I
> was editing, but it's frustrating, particularly if I don't notice, and
> type a D or a H for example, losing my work.
> 
> Is there a way I can force Vimperator to keep the focus on the text box I
> am typing in if a frame refresh is triggered?

That was just discussed some hours ago!

Please read the thread: [Vimperator] page element focus

--
Martin

From buddha at the-annexe.net  Tue Jun  3 08:30:19 2008
From: buddha at the-annexe.net (Paul Sobey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:30:19 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Vimperator] Insert Mode and Webmail
In-Reply-To: <48455E24.8050104@gmx.net>
References: <28089.82.150.99.2.1212505068.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
	<48455E24.8050104@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <10499.82.150.99.2.1212507019.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>

> That was just discussed some hours ago!
>
> Please read the thread: [Vimperator] page element focus

Ah, excellent timing! In that case, I second making it configurable.
Perhaps even per site?

Paul



From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 08:45:34 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:45:34 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Insert Mode and Webmail
In-Reply-To: <10499.82.150.99.2.1212507019.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
References: <28089.82.150.99.2.1212505068.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>	<48455E24.8050104@gmx.net>
	<10499.82.150.99.2.1212507019.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
Message-ID: <4845671E.3010003@gmx.net>

Paul Sobey wrote:

>> That was just discussed some hours ago!
>>
>> Please read the thread: [Vimperator] page element focus
> 
> Ah, excellent timing! In that case, I second making it configurable.
> Perhaps even per site?

Per site can be done now with :autocmd, configurability is nice, but
somebody has to write the code ;)

From m05c63c02 at sneakemail.com  Tue Jun  3 08:54:15 2008
From: m05c63c02 at sneakemail.com (Armin)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:54:15 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] No equivalent to Ctrl-k for bringing focus
	to	search bar?
References: <152aefdf0805271702r348ae62eyd88200595469c1a@mail.gmail.com>	<483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com><152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>
	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>

Just to throw in what I usually do (very basic):

I press "I" to shut off the keyboard processing, then I press "CTRL-K" and 
later I press "ESC" to switch keyboard processing ofvimperator on again.

I do like vimperator very much!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Stubenschrott stubenschrott-at-gmx.net |ArminFF1|" 
<...>
To: <..........................>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vimperator] No equivalent to Ctrl-k for bringing focus to 
search bar?


> ?ndr?k wrote:
>
>> Is there a way, when Vimperator is installed, to enter a search query
>> and see suggestions _as I type_ without having to use the mouse?
>
> No. usually you would be able to focus the search field with <c-v><c-k>,
> but in this case, it is broken. I don't know why exactly, but Firefox
> is generating massive amounts of focus/blur events, instead of just one.
>
> This breaks the focusing unfortunatly :(
>
> --
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>


-- 
Armin 


From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 09:06:52 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:06:52 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] open a webpage
Message-ID: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com>

This should be a newbie question.

Assuming I already yank a url (http://.....), how to open that webpage in a new 
tab or in the current tab.

regards,

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 09:11:24 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:11:24 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] open a webpage
In-Reply-To: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com>
References: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48456D2C.5060203@gmx.net>

bill lam wrote:

> This should be a newbie question.
> 
> Assuming I already yank a url (http://.....), how to open that webpage in a new 
> tab or in the current tab.

p for current, P for new tab.

From dougkearns at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 09:13:34 2008
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 02:13:34 +1000
Subject: [Vimperator] open a webpage
In-Reply-To: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com>
References: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <644fc65e0806030913u436eef1ai279bf57a183f3357@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:06 AM, bill lam <cbill.lam at gmail.com> wrote:
> This should be a newbie question.
>
> Assuming I already yank a url (http://.....), how to open that webpage in a new
> tab or in the current tab.

:help p
:help P
:help activate

Doug

From violazoli at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 09:23:50 2008
From: violazoli at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Viola_Zolt=E1n?=)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:23:50 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator with SeaMonkey?
Message-ID: <b42a97b40806030923u4b901decy1068cc6fe31cd862@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, can I use the Vimperator with the SeaMonkey browser?

Zoli

-- 
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Reg?nyeim:
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun  3 09:28:44 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:28:44 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator with SeaMonkey?
In-Reply-To: <b42a97b40806030923u4b901decy1068cc6fe31cd862@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b42a97b40806030923u4b901decy1068cc6fe31cd862@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4845713C.5020202@gmx.net>

Viola Zolt?n wrote:

> Hi, can I use the Vimperator with the SeaMonkey browser?

We should update the wiki, for such recurring questions, then
I could just say: see F.A.Q.

Short answer: I don't know, it will probably run, but some features
might be missing.

From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 09:29:02 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:29:02 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] open a webpage
In-Reply-To: <48456D2C.5060203@gmx.net>
References: <48456C1C.8010405@gmail.com> <48456D2C.5060203@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4845714E.20000@gmail.com>

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> p for current, P for new tab.

Thank both Martin and Doug for quick help.

regards,


From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 10:14:57 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:14:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] pass-through and zoom mode "smart" toggling
In-Reply-To: <91325fec0806030606sc367f0g74dfa87c005307bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806030114ieffe418we1c9a74bffcc41f7@mail.gmail.com>	<48451AD0.9020106@gmx.net>
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I strongly agree with that, this would be a great feature. For every
site that have great shortcuts, I disable vimperator. Meanwhile, I wish
it could remain enabled on other tabs.

Dmitry Teslenko wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
> <stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
>> :set! browser.zoom.siteSpecific=false fixes the first problem. I thought about
>> overriding this setting with vimperator, but maybe some people like that
>> behavior.
> Thanks! That's it.
> 
>> Well, pass-through mode is usually for people who work with keyboard-only, for them
>> <esc>gt to switch tabs is reasonable. Also there are TabSelect autocommands
>> which can do just what you want, look into the wiki.
> I talk with these people in mind; about some cases when you work in pass-through
> mode and tab-switching occurs w/o pressing <esc>something, i.e. opening pop-ups.
> Here's use case: navigating elements in google's reader in pass-through mode
> and opening new tab with their keyboard shortcut. Result is new tab to which
> FF switches immediately and pass-through mode still active. You can't
> browse this
> page with pass-through and either can't switch back w/o turning it off.
> 

- --
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From informationeagle at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 11:13:03 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:13:03 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
Message-ID: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>

After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I am now
trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again, I cannot get
Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have saved as a text file
with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc becomes a system file and I am
not sure how to access system files on the Mac when they disappear so I am
avoiding the dot version for now).  OSX appends the .txt extension to
_vimperatorrc and while I can hide the extension, I don't think I am getting
rid of it all together.  I spoke to a Mac Genius and he said that was the
way Mac does things so this may be normal for OSX and the problem may be
elsewhere.  I have saved the file using Finder and clicking on the picture
of a house which is what I understand is the home directory.  Is there
anyone out there familiar with OSX or Macs in general who might know what is
going on.  I was thinking of going to the shell and trying to rename the
file from there but I'm not familiar with OSX and how this might be done.
Thanks for any assistance.
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From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Tue Jun  3 11:34:10 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:34:10 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080603183410.GA5764@desktop>

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:03AM -0700, Edward Gomez wrote:
> I was thinking of going to the shell and trying to rename the
> file from there but I'm not familiar with OSX and how this might be done.
> Thanks for any assistance.

mv _vimperatorrc.txt _vimperatorrc


Greetings,
Daniel

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun  3 11:50:50 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:50:50 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4845928A.8070700@tedpavlic.com>

If you display the "Info" of your _vimperatorrc file, you will find a 
"Name & Extension" section. If you expand it, you should see the file 
(with its extension) and a "Hide extension" check box. Uncheck that box. 
Then you'll be able to see the extension in the normal Finder (and 
remove it).

ALTERNATIVELY, when you save files (e.g., with TextEdit), in the save 
box there's a checkbox that says something like "If no extension 
provided, use .txt." If you uncheck this box, it will NOT add an extension.

Finally, if you want to be a little more advanced, you can use the 
Terminal to configure hidden Finder options to force the viewing of dot 
files. (in particular, you use the "defaults" command -- search Google 
for the particular preference and how to set it) In your case, you 
shouldn't need to do this.

--Ted


Edward Gomez wrote:
> After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I am 
> now trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again, I 
> cannot get Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have saved 
> as a text file with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc becomes a 
> system file and I am not sure how to access system files on the Mac when 
> they disappear so I am avoiding the dot version for now).  OSX appends 
> the .txt extension to _vimperatorrc and while I can hide the extension, 
> I don't think I am getting rid of it all together.  I spoke to a Mac 
> Genius and he said that was the way Mac does things so this may be 
> normal for OSX and the problem may be elsewhere.  I have saved the file 
> using Finder and clicking on the picture of a house which is what I 
> understand is the home directory.  Is there anyone out there familiar 
> with OSX or Macs in general who might know what is going on.  I was 
> thinking of going to the shell and trying to rename the file from there 
> but I'm not familiar with OSX and how this might be done.  Thanks for 
> any assistance.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun  3 11:52:58 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:52:58 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <4845928A.8070700@tedpavlic.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
	<4845928A.8070700@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <4845930A.8040605@tedpavlic.com>

> If you display the "Info" of your _vimperatorrc file, you will find a 
> "Name & Extension" section. If you expand it, you should see the file 
> (with its extension) and a "Hide extension" check box. Uncheck that box. 
> Then you'll be able to see the extension in the normal Finder (and 
> remove it).

NOTE: To display the "Info" for a file, either click on it and press 
Apple+I or click on it and select "Get Info" from either the context 
menu (i.e., the cntrl+click menu) or the File menu.

--Ted
-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun  3 18:02:06 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:02:06 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031451j205c135an79d1613c87d9ea22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4845928A.8070700@tedpavlic.com> <4845930A.8040605@tedpavlic.com>
	<9917f4490806031451j205c135an79d1613c87d9ea22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4845E98E.50906@tedpavlic.com>

Edward --

	You responded only to me, so I'm sending this to the list as well.

>      Thank you for taking the time to reply.  I was able to get the .txt 
> extension off by following your instructions and changing the file name 
> directly from Finder (I highlight the file and then the display changes 
> slightly allowing to backspace out the .txt.  Unfortunately despite the 
> _vimperator file being in the Finder home directory Vimperator does not 
> seem to see it.  The file Info identifies it precisely as a text file 

	The file name you want is:

_vimperatorrc

not _vimperator. Try renaming the file. That works on my OS/X 10.4 
system. Make sure the _vimperatorrc file is in her home directory.	

> going on?  One last thing is that every time I restart her computer and 
> click on Firefox I get a pop-up indicating that I should drag Firefox 
> into Applications.  I've done that several times and it seems to work 
> fine, but when I reboot the same pop-up comes up.  Doing this has never 

	How did she/you first install Firefox? Typically, you download a DMG 
archive, double-click on it, which opens up a "Folder" that has Firefox 
in it. You copy that Firefox to your Applications folder. After that, 
you "eject" the DMG file.

	Is there a Firefox DMG sitting on the Desktop somewhere? If so, get rid 
of that. For some reason, the OS is picking the archived Firefox first.

> altered her settings but I suspect that FF may not be properly 
> installed.  I am dragging the FF icon from the pop-up to applications 
> (after closing FF).  Might this be the problem?  Unfortunately, I know 
> nothing of MacOS. 

	Just make sure you get rid of the "folder" that you're dragging Firefox 
*OUT* of.

	--Ted


> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com 
> <mailto:ted at tedpavlic.com>> wrote:
> 
>         If you display the "Info" of your _vimperatorrc file, you will
>         find a "Name & Extension" section. If you expand it, you should
>         see the file (with its extension) and a "Hide extension" check
>         box. Uncheck that box. Then you'll be able to see the extension
>         in the normal Finder (and remove it).
> 
> 
>     NOTE: To display the "Info" for a file, either click on it and press
>     Apple+I or click on it and select "Get Info" from either the context
>     menu (i.e., the cntrl+click menu) or the File menu.
> 
>     --Ted
> 
>     -- 
>     Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com <mailto:ted at tedpavlic.com>>
> 
> 

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun  3 18:03:59 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:03:59 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031453x6fa1f313k2f8fad27e800d293@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4845928A.8070700@tedpavlic.com> <4845930A.8040605@tedpavlic.com>	
	<9917f4490806031451j205c135an79d1613c87d9ea22@mail.gmail.com>
	<9917f4490806031453x6fa1f313k2f8fad27e800d293@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4845E9FF.6090408@tedpavlic.com>

Make sure that there is no period after. That is, on my system I have:

/Users/tpavlic/_vimperatorrc

and it works fine. That is, I have a file called:

_vimperatorrc

in my home directory, and it seems to be loaded fine. MAKE SURE that you 
have the double r's. That is, vimperatoRRc. MAKE SURE the file is 
located in the HOME DIRECTORY.

There is probably a little icon of a "home" in the Dock which is 
probably at the bottom of her screen. Click on that "home" directory -- 
that's where the _vimperatorrc should be.

--Ted

Edward Gomez wrote:
> I meant to say _vimperatorrc.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com 
> <mailto:informationeagle at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Ted,
>          Thank you for taking the time to reply.  I was able to get the
>     .txt extension off by following your instructions and changing the
>     file name directly from Finder (I highlight the file and then the
>     display changes slightly allowing to backspace out the .txt. 
>     Unfortunately despite the _vimperator file being in the Finder home
>     directory Vimperator does not seem to see it.  The file Info
>     identifies it precisely as a text file and the Hide Extension
>     checkbox was unchecked when I saved the file so that part seems ok. 
>     Does anyone else have any ideas on what might be going on?  One last
>     thing is that every time I restart her computer and click on Firefox
>     I get a pop-up indicating that I should drag Firefox into
>     Applications.  I've done that several times and it seems to work
>     fine, but when I reboot the same pop-up comes up.  Doing this has
>     never altered her settings but I suspect that FF may not be properly
>     installed.  I am dragging the FF icon from the pop-up to
>     applications (after closing FF).  Might this be the problem? 
>     Unfortunately, I know nothing of MacOS. 
> 
>     On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com
>     <mailto:ted at tedpavlic.com>> wrote:
> 
>             If you display the "Info" of your _vimperatorrc file, you
>             will find a "Name & Extension" section. If you expand it,
>             you should see the file (with its extension) and a "Hide
>             extension" check box. Uncheck that box. Then you'll be able
>             to see the extension in the normal Finder (and remove it).
> 
> 
>         NOTE: To display the "Info" for a file, either click on it and
>         press Apple+I or click on it and select "Get Info" from either
>         the context menu (i.e., the cntrl+click menu) or the File menu.
> 
>         --Ted
> 
>         -- 
>         Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com <mailto:ted at tedpavlic.com>>
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Tue Jun  3 18:48:54 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (cch)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:48:54 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] can scroll bar be hiden?
Message-ID: <20080604014854.GB11184@VPNtest>

I am just becoming familiar with vimperator.
can  the usually scroll bar  be hiden, 
like menu and toolbar?
Cool if it could be.

From penryu at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 19:03:58 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:03:58 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] can scroll bar be hiden?
In-Reply-To: <20080604014854.GB11184@VPNtest>
References: <20080604014854.GB11184@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <cfbb0f060806031903m18944b58g6328980e2b9229d7@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, cch <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn> wrote:

> I am just becoming familiar with vimperator.
> can  the usually scroll bar  be hiden,
> like menu and toolbar?
> Cool if it could be.
>

I just started working on this feature today.  I'll post the patch as soon
as it's done.
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From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 19:05:18 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:05:18 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] "added noscript plugin"
Message-ID: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>

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Hi, I just looked at the last changelog and it says

added noscript plugin

What does it mean?

I use the noscript extension with firefox, I find it very good. Has vimp
begun to provide a command line access to noscript? If that is the case,
this is really good news...
- --
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From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 19:08:44 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:08:44 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] Proxomitron or webpage filter
Message-ID: <4845F92C.1050509@gmail.com>

Can vimperator change webpage content?
to be more specific, after webpage data downloaded to browser but before 
rendering by FF, can vimperator change meta-content and body of the webpage, for 
example: change "codepage=latin1" to" codepage=utf-8" .

Could it be done in the opposite direction, change (meta-)content before data 
sending to server, eg. change referrer to be the index page of the url requested.

All this done per site using regex matching.

PS. They were available in Proxomitron that I really missed.

From dpb at driftaway.org  Wed Jun  4 03:15:32 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:15:32 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806040315i1d0cf930wfec806e7a1f4fe51@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/3 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
> After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I am now
> trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again, I cannot get
> Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have saved as a text file
> with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc becomes a system file and I am
> not sure how to access system files on the Mac when they disappear so I am
> avoiding the dot version for now).

Dot files on OS X are just like in any other UNIX-like systems, normal files
that are hidden. IIRC there's a Finder option somewhere that makes it show
the dot files too (not on my Mac atm so can't check where).

And yet again.. If people use Vimperator, why don't they use Vim too?
Vim doesn't append that .txt there... :)

--
Daniel

From dpb at driftaway.org  Wed Jun  4 03:27:50 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:27:50 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] "added noscript plugin"
In-Reply-To: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>
References: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806040327y4c8b2350je609eeec52f8827b@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/4 Christophe-Marie Duquesne <chm.duquesne at gmail.com>:
> Hi, I just looked at the last changelog and it says
>
> added noscript plugin
>
> What does it mean?
>
> I use the noscript extension with firefox, I find it very good. Has vimp
> begun to provide a command line access to noscript? If that is the case,
> this is really good news...

There's a plugin for it in [1]. Need to test it myself too.. :)

[1] http://vimperator.mozdev.org/scripts.html

--
Daniel

From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 03:33:17 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:33:17 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806040315i1d0cf930wfec806e7a1f4fe51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806040315i1d0cf930wfec806e7a1f4fe51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48466F6D.3060409@gmail.com>

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Aaah, mac os :) A lovely free kernel, but an interface that makes you
miss all the fun things...

Daniel Bainton wrote:
> 2008/6/3 Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>:
>> After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I am now
>> trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again, I cannot get
>> Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have saved as a text file
>> with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc becomes a system file and I am
>> not sure how to access system files on the Mac when they disappear so I am
>> avoiding the dot version for now).
> 
> Dot files on OS X are just like in any other UNIX-like systems, normal files
> that are hidden. IIRC there's a Finder option somewhere that makes it show
> the dot files too (not on my Mac atm so can't check where).
> 
> And yet again.. If people use Vimperator, why don't they use Vim too?
> Vim doesn't append that .txt there... :)
> 
> --
> Daniel
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

- --
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From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 04:02:12 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:02:12 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] "added noscript plugin"
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806040327y4c8b2350je609eeec52f8827b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806040327y4c8b2350je609eeec52f8827b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48467634.6090603@gmail.com>

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GREAT! It works! Thank you very much!

Daniel Bainton wrote:
> 2008/6/4 Christophe-Marie Duquesne <chm.duquesne at gmail.com>:
>> Hi, I just looked at the last changelog and it says
>>
>> added noscript plugin
>>
>> What does it mean?
>>
>> I use the noscript extension with firefox, I find it very good. Has vimp
>> begun to provide a command line access to noscript? If that is the case,
>> this is really good news...
> 
> There's a plugin for it in [1]. Need to test it myself too.. :)
> 
> [1] http://vimperator.mozdev.org/scripts.html
> 
> --
> Daniel

- --
Christophe-Marie
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From buddha at the-annexe.net  Wed Jun  4 04:53:20 2008
From: buddha at the-annexe.net (Paul Sobey)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:53:20 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Vimperator] "added noscript plugin"
In-Reply-To: <48467634.6090603@gmail.com>
References: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806040327y4c8b2350je609eeec52f8827b@mail.gmail.com>
	<48467634.6090603@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38114.82.150.99.2.1212580400.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>

> GREAT! It works! Thank you very much!

I can't get this working. Can anyone help? I have it dropped in
~/.vimperator/plugin. When I issue :map, I can see the mapping are
defined. I assumed <Leader> was \ by default, yet when I press \S in
normal mode, it beeps at me. What am I doing wrong?

Cheers,
Paul



From Javier.Barroso at isotrol.com  Tue Jun  3 23:49:38 2008
From: Javier.Barroso at isotrol.com (Javier Barroso)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:49:38 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Beeps and changing between tabs
Message-ID: <48463B02.2020403@isotrol.com>

Hi,

Are there any hint to disable beep in imperator ? When I change tab with
ALT-n, it beeps :(

How could I change the keybinding to change between tabs ?

Thank you !
-- 
Javier Barroso Trist?n
Administrador de Redes y Sistemas
DIRECCI?N DE TECNOLOG?A:OPERACIONES Y SOPORTE
javier.barroso at isotrol.com
--------------------------------------------

ISOTROL
Edificio BLUENET. Avda. Isaac Newton n? 3, 4? planta.
Parque Tecnol?gico Cartuja '93, 41092 Sevilla.
Tel?fono: 955 036 800 - Fax: 955 036 849
www.isotrol.com


From dpb at driftaway.org  Wed Jun  4 05:31:15 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:31:15 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Beeps and changing between tabs
In-Reply-To: <48463B02.2020403@isotrol.com>
References: <48463B02.2020403@isotrol.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806040531h26060d9bpecfe6c439a5d5504@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/4 Javier Barroso <Javier.Barroso at isotrol.com>:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any hint to disable beep in imperator ? When I change tab with
> ALT-n, it beeps :(
>
> How could I change the keybinding to change between tabs ?
>
> Thank you !

:set visualbell

That'll disable the beep and uses a visualbell instead.

--
Daniel

From michaelfresco at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 09:01:31 2008
From: michaelfresco at gmail.com (Michael Fresco)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:01:31 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
Message-ID: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>

Many of you are probably already familiar with Goosh <http://www.goosh.org>.
A neat command-driven web app that builds on Google's api.
I was wondering if anyone, like me, tossed with the idea of integrating
Goosh in vimeperator. eg.

Please let me know what you guys think,

Mike
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun  4 09:14:08 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:14:08 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>

Michael Fresco wrote:

> Many of you are probably already familiar with Goosh
> <http://www.goosh.org>. A neat command-driven web app that builds on
> Google's api.
> I was wondering if anyone, like me, tossed with the idea of integrating
> Goosh in vimeperator. eg.
> 
> Please let me know what you guys think,

It would certainly make sense to have a :goosh command with tab completion.
It would be doable easily with the plugin support. So please send me the
plugin, once you are done. Then I add it to the script section of the
homepage.

----
Martin

From mail407 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 11:19:54 2008
From: mail407 at gmail.com (Andrei)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:19:54 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] possible bug in AlwaysHint mode
Message-ID: <8f6da5150806041119o539edd31pc77b9fb1caf08996@mail.gmail.com>

I am using Vimperator 1.0 with FF 3.0b5 on Hardy Heron, with CharHints plugin.
When I press:
;F
it should go into the HintAlways mode. In that mode, I should be able
to open links in new
tabs when pressing the hint keys. This works, except for: after I
press the first hint key,
the hint letters vanish. The browser remains in the HintAlways mode.
When I press other
hint keys it continues to open the corresponding links in new tabs, as
it should.
But I cannot see the hint letters anymore (and also the link
highlighting is gone).

Andrei.

From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 15:02:17 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:02:17 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] "added noscript plugin"
In-Reply-To: <26510.82.150.99.2.1212596810.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
References: <4845F85E.2070401@gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806040327y4c8b2350je609eeec52f8827b@mail.gmail.com>
	<48467634.6090603@gmail.com>
	<38114.82.150.99.2.1212580400.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
	<48468946.1010407@gmail.com>
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Double check the names of the files. And yes, try another plugin.
Did you make your .vimperatorrc by yourself or did you copy it from
someone else? In that cas, see if mapleader has been modified. Do you
run last version of vimperator, which is 1.1?

Cheers,

Paul Sobey wrote:
>> That's exactly what I do, so I have no idea why it is not working for
>> you. Leader is \ by default, and when I press \ then s, it authorizes
>> the js to be executed.
> 
> Hmmm, still not working. Do you have any other suggestions? It's driving
> me a little nuts! I suppose I could try another plugin to see if I can
> make that work...
> 

- --
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From informationeagle at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 17:53:54 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:53:54 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9917f4490806041753h64c50fa4u4ae95250597e3087@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ted, the file was correctly named _vimperatorrc (my typo in the
message) but unfortunately OSX doesn't see the file in the home directory.
It is now correctly named without the extension following the instructions
you provided.  I hope someone else knowledgeable about Macs can glean
through the words and see what is happening.  I appreciate your help.

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Edward Gomez <informationeagle at gmail.com>
wrote:

> After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I am now
> trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again, I cannot get
> Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have saved as a text file
> with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc becomes a system file and I am
> not sure how to access system files on the Mac when they disappear so I am
> avoiding the dot version for now).  OSX appends the .txt extension to
> _vimperatorrc and while I can hide the extension, I don't think I am getting
> rid of it all together.  I spoke to a Mac Genius and he said that was the
> way Mac does things so this may be normal for OSX and the problem may be
> elsewhere.  I have saved the file using Finder and clicking on the picture
> of a house which is what I understand is the home directory.  Is there
> anyone out there familiar with OSX or Macs in general who might know what is
> going on.  I was thinking of going to the shell and trying to rename the
> file from there but I'm not familiar with OSX and how this might be done.
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
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From ted at tedpavlic.com  Wed Jun  4 18:43:02 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806041753h64c50fa4u4ae95250597e3087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
	<9917f4490806041753h64c50fa4u4ae95250597e3087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484744A6.20102@tedpavlic.com>

Edward --

	There is *no reason* why _vimperatorrc (created with Vim or TextEdit) 
should not be visible in the home directory **UNLESS** it's not actually 
IN the home directory. If you can see it to EDIT it, then you've saved 
it in the wrong place.

	Find the _vimperatorrc file (wherever you did save it) and type Apple+I 
to bring up the file info. There will be a "General" section that can be 
expanded to show you a field called "Where:". It should read:

/Users/username/_vimperatorrc

where "username" is the short login name of the local user. If it says 
something else... For example:

/Users/username/Documents/_vimperatorrc

then Vimperator won't be able to find it.

	Once you figure out where it actually is, drag it into the "Home" 
directory and restart Firefox. That should fix the problem.

(NOTE: Again, you should make sure that you're using the Firefox out of 
/Applications; you should *NOT* be running Firefox out of the DMG folder 
that you downloaded to install it)

	--Ted

Edward Gomez wrote:
> Thanks Ted, the file was correctly named _vimperatorrc (my typo in the 
> message) but unfortunately OSX doesn't see the file in the home 
> directory.  It is now correctly named without the extension following 
> the instructions you provided.  I hope someone else knowledgeable about 
> Macs can glean through the words and see what is happening.  I 
> appreciate your help.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Edward Gomez 
> <informationeagle at gmail.com <mailto:informationeagle at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     After successfully installing a .vimperatorrc on my Vista laptop, I
>     am now trying to set up a friend with Vimperator on an Mac.  Again,
>     I cannot get Vimperator to read the _vimperatorrc file which I have
>     saved as a text file with the name _vimperatorrc (.vimperatorrc
>     becomes a system file and I am not sure how to access system files
>     on the Mac when they disappear so I am avoiding the dot version for
>     now).  OSX appends the .txt extension to _vimperatorrc and while I
>     can hide the extension, I don't think I am getting rid of it all
>     together.  I spoke to a Mac Genius and he said that was the way Mac
>     does things so this may be normal for OSX and the problem may be
>     elsewhere.  I have saved the file using Finder and clicking on the
>     picture of a house which is what I understand is the home
>     directory.  Is there anyone out there familiar with OSX or Macs in
>     general who might know what is going on.  I was thinking of going to
>     the shell and trying to rename the file from there but I'm not
>     familiar with OSX and how this might be done.  Thanks for any
>     assistance.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 19:27:21 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 10:27:21 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806041753h64c50fa4u4ae95250597e3087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
	<9917f4490806041753h64c50fa4u4ae95250597e3087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48474F09.7010807@gmail.com>

Edward Gomez wrote:
> Thanks Ted, the file was correctly named _vimperatorrc (my typo in the
> message) but unfortunately OSX doesn't see the file in the home directory.
> It is now correctly named without the extension following the instructions
> you provided.  I hope someone else knowledgeable about Macs can glean
> through the words and see what is happening.  I appreciate your help.

You may first confirm what is the HOME folder, in terminal, type
   echo $HOME

and see what happen. (disclaimer, I've never used OSX).

regards,

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun  4 20:15:05 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (cch)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:15:05 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
Message-ID: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest>

when I type url after ":open" and press TAB
and vimperator auto-complete the URL
and display a list of suggested URL's.
However, I feel this auto-completion 
and the order of suggested URL's is 
inconvenient. I think a URL that is 
a homepage should be ranked first rather
than web page with very deep URL.
Besides, I think a URL that is most recently
visted should be suggested.

What do you guys think of this question?


From dpb at driftaway.org  Thu Jun  5 00:42:21 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:42:21 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] possible bug in AlwaysHint mode
In-Reply-To: <8f6da5150806041119o539edd31pc77b9fb1caf08996@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8f6da5150806041119o539edd31pc77b9fb1caf08996@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806050042r315a1ea4teba4ed61d10ffb4e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/4 Andrei <mail407 at gmail.com>:
> I am using Vimperator 1.0 with FF 3.0b5 on Hardy Heron, with CharHints plugin.
> When I press:
> ;F
> it should go into the HintAlways mode. In that mode, I should be able
> to open links in new
> tabs when pressing the hint keys. This works, except for: after I
> press the first hint key,
> the hint letters vanish. The browser remains in the HintAlways mode.
> When I press other
> hint keys it continues to open the corresponding links in new tabs, as
> it should.
> But I cannot see the hint letters anymore (and also the link
> highlighting is gone).

This is a known bug. For a workaround, press space after they
disappear to make them show again.

--
Daniel

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Thu Jun  5 02:03:19 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (cch)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:03:19 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
In-Reply-To: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest>
References: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <20080605090319.GB7460@VPNtest>

Another inconvenience:
when I type part of URL and type TAB,
the suggested URL appear directly in the 
command line, which make it inconvenient
to continue typing the actual URL that I want.
I suggest that when part of URL is typed
in command line, and after TAB is typed
Vimperator just display suggestions upon
command line and remain the partial URL
what is typed by user.

On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 11:15:05AM +0800, cch wrote:
> when I type url after ":open" and press TAB
> and vimperator auto-complete the URL
> and display a list of suggested URL's.
> However, I feel this auto-completion 
> and the order of suggested URL's is 
> inconvenient. I think a URL that is 
> a homepage should be ranked first rather
> than web page with very deep URL.
> Besides, I think a URL that is most recently
> visted should be suggested.
> 
> What do you guys think of this question?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

From buddha at the-annexe.net  Thu Jun  5 02:09:06 2008
From: buddha at the-annexe.net (Paul Sobey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:09:06 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Vimperator] Focus Frameset
Message-ID: <11387.82.150.99.2.1212656946.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>

Guys,

Is there a quick way to focus a frame on a page so that the frame can be
scrolled using j, k? I've found I can tab through the elements in one
frame to reach another, but it's tedious with a lot of links in the first
frame...

Paul



From dougkearns at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 02:15:38 2008
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:15:38 +1000
Subject: [Vimperator] Focus Frameset
In-Reply-To: <11387.82.150.99.2.1212656946.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
References: <11387.82.150.99.2.1212656946.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
Message-ID: <644fc65e0806050215u116ba02aoc82263547de5c065@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/5/08, Paul Sobey <buddha at the-annexe.net> wrote:
> Guys,
>
>  Is there a quick way to focus a frame on a page so that the frame can be
>  scrolled using j, k? I've found I can tab through the elements in one
>  frame to reach another, but it's tedious with a lot of links in the first
>  frame...

:help ]f

Doug

From buddha at the-annexe.net  Thu Jun  5 02:22:21 2008
From: buddha at the-annexe.net (Paul Sobey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:22:21 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Vimperator] Focus Frameset
In-Reply-To: <644fc65e0806050215u116ba02aoc82263547de5c065@mail.gmail.com>
References: <11387.82.150.99.2.1212656946.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>
	<644fc65e0806050215u116ba02aoc82263547de5c065@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25240.82.150.99.2.1212657741.squirrel@webmail.the-annexe.net>

> :help ]f

Damnit! I tried help frame, help focus, and googled for vimperator focus
frame. Thanks - this list is truly excellent.

Paul



From dteslenko at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 03:25:52 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:25:52 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] upgrade to FF3 RC2 hides my statusbar
Message-ID: <91325fec0806050325y3aa366e5v31347c7b34f4ac9e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!
Does anybody encounter some problems with statusbar after upgrading to RC2?
I post this message because I do;

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From dpb at driftaway.org  Thu Jun  5 03:47:02 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:47:02 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] upgrade to FF3 RC2 hides my statusbar
In-Reply-To: <91325fec0806050325y3aa366e5v31347c7b34f4ac9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806050325y3aa366e5v31347c7b34f4ac9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806050347h534eaa81pdfcd6b773347d0ae@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/5 Dmitry Teslenko <dteslenko at gmail.com>:
> Hello!
> Does anybody encounter some problems with statusbar after upgrading to RC2?
> I post this message because I do;

Works on my FF3 nightly..

Where did you upgrade from? What firefox version originally created
your firefox profile?
Might just fix it if you start with a clean profile.

--
Daniel

From dteslenko at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 04:55:06 2008
From: dteslenko at gmail.com (Dmitry Teslenko)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:55:06 +0400
Subject: [Vimperator] upgrade to FF3 RC2 hides my statusbar
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806050347h534eaa81pdfcd6b773347d0ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91325fec0806050325y3aa366e5v31347c7b34f4ac9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806050347h534eaa81pdfcd6b773347d0ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91325fec0806050455v7e385ec9p6950dc13eff3ab2c@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org> wrote:
> Where did you upgrade from? What firefox version originally created
> your firefox profile?
> Might just fix it if you start with a clean profile.
It's win32 FF and It's old profile created by FF2 either FF1; Upgrade was
proposed by FF automatic updates service;

-- 
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 09:59:57 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:59:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
In-Reply-To: <20080605090319.GB7460@VPNtest>
References: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest> <20080605090319.GB7460@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <48481B8D.7080705@gmail.com>

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Hi,

I am not sure telling everyone that you find a feature inconvenient is
the right way to get improvements.

However, I agree with you for the URL appearing directly in the command
line. It would be more convenient if it was like in vim : when you type
<C-x><C-f> (for file completion), you have this nice list that you can
scroll, but you can continue to type the path. Here, the url replaces
entirely the command line, so you can not do that because your text has
been replaced.

Regards

cch wrote:
> Another inconvenience:
> when I type part of URL and type TAB,
> the suggested URL appear directly in the 
> command line, which make it inconvenient
> to continue typing the actual URL that I want.
> I suggest that when part of URL is typed
> in command line, and after TAB is typed
> Vimperator just display suggestions upon
> command line and remain the partial URL
> what is typed by user.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 11:15:05AM +0800, cch wrote:
>> when I type url after ":open" and press TAB
>> and vimperator auto-complete the URL
>> and display a list of suggested URL's.
>> However, I feel this auto-completion 
>> and the order of suggested URL's is 
>> inconvenient. I think a URL that is 
>> a homepage should be ranked first rather
>> than web page with very deep URL.
>> Besides, I think a URL that is most recently
>> visted should be suggested.
>>
>> What do you guys think of this question?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Vimperator mailing list
>> Vimperator at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun  5 10:15:56 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:15:56 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
In-Reply-To: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest>
References: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <48481F4C.8020105@gmx.net>

cch wrote:

> when I type url after ":open" and press TAB
> and vimperator auto-complete the URL
> and display a list of suggested URL's.
> However, I feel this auto-completion 
> and the order of suggested URL's is 
> inconvenient. I think a URL that is 
> a homepage should be ranked first rather
> than web page with very deep URL.
> Besides, I think a URL that is most recently
> visted should be suggested.
> 
> What do you guys think of this question?

I agree, that the :open completion could be improved.

However, bookmarks are always listed before history items,
so if you press "A" to quickly bookmark a homepage, it is
always listed first.

Also items are sorted by frequency of usage, but i agree again,
using the awesomebar like ranking would be better.

From k at bijna.net  Thu Jun  5 10:24:01 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:24:01 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
In-Reply-To: <20080605090319.GB7460@VPNtest>
References: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest> <20080605090319.GB7460@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806051024od1ae598y4c145a47d48a961e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM, cch <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn> wrote:
> Another inconvenience:
> when I type part of URL and type TAB,
> the suggested URL appear directly in the
> command line, which make it inconvenient
> to continue typing the actual URL that I want.

I believe it's been mentioned before that pressing SHIFT-TAB (if
you're at the top of the list, e.g. haven't pressed TAB a second time)
will hide/undo the completion so you can continue typing from where
you left off. Not immediate or completely obvious but there's what you
can do as is.

From k at bijna.net  Thu Jun  5 10:56:40 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:56:40 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>

It seems to me that Firefox has at least two search engine keyword
systems. One is accessible from the search bar, address bar and
Vimperator's (tab)open commands; the other is accessible only from the
address bar--this is the one that the del.icio.us and possibly other
addons use to add search engines (del.icio.us allows bookmarks to be
tagged as shortcuts and used in the address bar as such). I don't know
if this is a fault in Firefox (for providing pointless redundant
mechanisms) or the del.icio.us addon (for using a deprecated mechanism
or using the correct mechanism incorrectly) but it seems this can be
solved in Vimperator. The mechanism is there in Firefox, after all, so
if adding support doesn't make Vimperator's code unwieldy...
For Vimperator 0.5.3 I created crude patch using getShortcutOrURI()
(takes a keyword/search string or URI, returns a URI with
keyword/search expansion) but I'm not sure this will be the correct
method for Vimperator 1.x. I'll be working on a patch, particularly to
support del.icio.us bookmark shortcuts through the official
del.icio.us addon, so guidance on where I should be looking or whether
I should be doing this would be appreciated.

From penryu at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 13:53:43 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:53:43 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] can scroll bar be hiden?
In-Reply-To: <20080604014854.GB11184@VPNtest>
References: <20080604014854.GB11184@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <20080605205338.GA16049@kame>

cch wrote:
> Sender: vimperator-bounces at mozdev.org
> From: cch <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn>
> Subject: [Vimperator] can scroll bar be hiden?
> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:48:54 +0800
> To: vimperator <vimperator at mozdev.org>
> Mail-followup-to: vimperator <vimperator at mozdev.org>
> Reply-To: vimperator at mozdev.org
> X-Original-To: vimperator at mozdev.org
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)
> 
> I am just becoming familiar with vimperator.
> can  the usually scroll bar  be hiden, 
> like menu and toolbar?
> Cool if it could be.

At this stage in Firefox evolution, this just may be a moot point,
despite how much I'd love this feature.

I've looked into this for some time and my findings are roughly thus:

  - Firefox scrollbars can be removed by changing the overflow,
    overflow-x, and overflow-y css properties of the content body
    (overflow, overflowX, overflowY properties of the
    content.body.style javascript object, respectively).

  - Doing this convinces firefox that the document is thereafter NOT
    SCROLLABLE except by explicit calls to that effect. firefox will
    not scroll the page in response to mousewheel events, or
    <C-f>/Find/Find Again actions, which also breaks searching with
    / and ?.

  - The mousewheel can be (mostly) worked around by feeding the
    event.detail value from the DOMMouseScroll event directly to the
    content window's scrollByLines() method.  However, this event does
    not seem to distinguish between horizontal or vertical scroll
    events.

  - This still leaves Firefox's fastFind functionality broken.
    fastFind/Vimperator will continue to find and highlight matches
    throughout the page, but will not scroll the page to reveal them
    in either full search or incremental searching.

NB: The CSS hack of marking the scrollbar element "visibility:
collapsed" does not seem to work in recent FF3 builds; it may have
stopped working when xulscrollbars.css and nativescrollbars.css were
unified.

These findings seem to match what others have found as well.

As the fastFind find() and findAgain() methods are native code, I'm
unaware of any method to override Firefox's refusal to autoscroll a
window sans scrollbars without completely reimplementing find
functionality from scratch in javascript -- an adventure sure to be
frought with peril, bugs, performance issues and which will surely not
be undertaken by me.

As hiding scrollbars at the expense of broken searching is too high a
price for me (and likely most vimperator users), this is feature is
probably tabled pending new information.

I have attached a patch showing my progress. Perhaps this will benefit
others with more knowledge of chrome issues or firefox internals.

HTH,
Tim
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From martinsteer at maxi.net.au  Thu Jun  5 18:46:32 2008
From: martinsteer at maxi.net.au (Martin Steer)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:46:32 +1000
Subject: [Vimperator] Grammer on the help page.
In-Reply-To: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org> (Tobiah's message of "Fri, 30 May
	2008 12:08:05 -0700")
References: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org>
Message-ID: <87hcc72v47.fsf@maxi.net.au>

Tobiah <toby at tobiah.org> writes:

> If anyone cares, on the help page under 'Mappings' there
> is a sentence that starts:
>
> "The denotion of modifier keys...".  
>
> The proper form of the word would be 'denotement'.
>
> Pedantic Pete.

Hmm. The word you're looking for is 'denotation', I think.

--
Martin

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 00:55:11 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:55:11 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] URL auto-completion is inconvenient
In-Reply-To: <48481F4C.8020105@gmx.net>
References: <20080605031505.GA1513@VPNtest> <48481F4C.8020105@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806060055mff04679xe5ba08d32fa6a929@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/5 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
>> when I type url after ":open" and press TAB
>> and vimperator auto-complete the URL
>> and display a list of suggested URL's.
>> However, I feel this auto-completion
>> and the order of suggested URL's is
>> inconvenient. I think a URL that is
>> a homepage should be ranked first rather
>> than web page with very deep URL.
>> Besides, I think a URL that is most recently
>> visted should be suggested.
>>
>> What do you guys think of this question?
>
> I agree, that the :open completion could be improved.
>
> However, bookmarks are always listed before history items,
> so if you press "A" to quickly bookmark a homepage, it is
> always listed first.
>
> Also items are sorted by frequency of usage, but i agree again,
> using the awesomebar like ranking would be better.

See this bug (filed by me):
https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19189

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 00:57:09 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:09 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/4 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
>> Many of you are probably already familiar with Goosh
>> <http://www.goosh.org>. A neat command-driven web app that builds on
>> Google's api.
>> I was wondering if anyone, like me, tossed with the idea of integrating
>> Goosh in vimeperator. eg.
>>
>> Please let me know what you guys think,
>
> It would certainly make sense to have a :goosh command with tab completion.
> It would be doable easily with the plugin support. So please send me the
> plugin, once you are done. Then I add it to the script section of the
> homepage.
>

I have this bookmark set:
http://google.com/search?q=%s
with the keyword "g"

Now, all I need to do is type "og term" to search for term. No need to
alter vimperator, and it works in regular firefox as well.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Fri Jun  6 03:03:35 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:03:35 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Grammer on the help page.
In-Reply-To: <87hcc72v47.fsf@maxi.net.au>
References: <48405095.7090604@tobiah.org> <87hcc72v47.fsf@maxi.net.au>
Message-ID: <48490B77.2040002@tedpavlic.com>

>> The proper form of the word would be 'denotement'.
>>
>> Pedantic Pete.
> 
> Hmm. The word you're looking for is 'denotation', I think.

I think he's probably right. That being said, I think the PHRASING 
probably should have changed so that a verb form could have been used.

Merriam-Webster lists "denotement" as the noun form of "denote". That 
is, a "denotement" is the actual indication/mark that something is 
denoted by. However, "denotation" is the thing that the mark MEANS.

That is, the "denotement" is the symbol and the "denotation" is the meaning.

Again, all of that being said, it's the phrasing that was the problem, 
and that's been fixed because the new documentation doesn't include that 
phrasing at all.

--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Fri Jun  6 03:07:13 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:07:13 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>

>>> Many of you are probably already familiar with Goosh
>>> <http://www.goosh.org>. A neat command-driven web app that builds on
>>> Google's api.
> I have this bookmark set:
> http://google.com/search?q=%s
> with the keyword "g"
> 
> Now, all I need to do is type "og term" to search for term. No need to
> alter vimperator, and it works in regular firefox as well.

I think most people on the list are doing the same thing (or using a 
Google search plugin to do the equivalent).

The point was that "goosh" has other value added features. Imagine:

:goosh translate english spanish hello

Actually go to goosh.com and try it out -- it's about more than just web 
searching.

--Ted

P.S.

It's unclear to me *HOW* GOOSH could be incorporated into Vimperator. 
That is, it seems more likely that Vimperator could EMULATE Goosh rather 
than calling it directly.

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From dpb at driftaway.org  Fri Jun  6 03:26:08 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:26:08 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/6 Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>:
>>>> Many of you are probably already familiar with Goosh
>>>> <http://www.goosh.org>. A neat command-driven web app that builds on
>>>> Google's api.
>> I have this bookmark set:
>> http://google.com/search?q=%s
>> with the keyword "g"
>>
>> Now, all I need to do is type "og term" to search for term. No need to
>> alter vimperator, and it works in regular firefox as well.
>
> I think most people on the list are doing the same thing (or using a
> Google search plugin to do the equivalent).
>
> The point was that "goosh" has other value added features. Imagine:
>
> :goosh translate english spanish hello
>
> Actually go to goosh.com and try it out -- it's about more than just web
> searching.
>
> --Ted
>
> P.S.
>
> It's unclear to me *HOW* GOOSH could be incorporated into Vimperator.
> That is, it seems more likely that Vimperator could EMULATE Goosh rather
> than calling it directly.

Yeah, you can already call it directly if you want to.

Use 'addengine' on the goosh command line, then you can do
:open goosh translate english spanish hello
etc.

--
Daniel

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 03:28:11 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:28:11 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00806060328g1fa38687x269c9bbf23b76671@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/6 Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>:
> I think most people on the list are doing the same thing (or using a
> Google search plugin to do the equivalent).
>
> The point was that "goosh" has other value added features. Imagine:
>
> :goosh translate english spanish hello
>
> Actually go to goosh.com and try it out -- it's about more than just web
> searching.
>

Playing with the ajax source I was unable to come up with a bookmark
shortcut that would bring up a new tab with the results in it. Instead
of emulating goosh, I would prefer a simple bookmark such as is
currently possible with google.

I will try to contact Stefan Grothkopp, the whois contact, to ask
about an API, even if rudimentary.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 03:28:41 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:28:41 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
	<dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880dece00806060328t5728d131qcd5cd954a8d9b815@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/6 Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org>:
>> It's unclear to me *HOW* GOOSH could be incorporated into Vimperator.
>> That is, it seems more likely that Vimperator could EMULATE Goosh rather
>> than calling it directly.
>
> Yeah, you can already call it directly if you want to.
>
> Use 'addengine' on the goosh command line, then you can do
> :open goosh translate english spanish hello
> etc.
>

Very nice, thanks!

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Fri Jun  6 03:59:54 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:59:54 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
	<dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484918AA.6030305@tedpavlic.com>

> Yeah, you can already call it directly if you want to.
> 
> Use 'addengine' on the goosh command line, then you can do
> :open goosh translate english spanish hello
> etc.

Hm. Typing "addengine" at the goosh prompt for me just gives me the 
prompt again with the word "addengine" on it (and it doesn't get added 
to the search engines).

Maybe it's an FF on OS/X thing.

Examining goosh's JavaScript, it looks like the equivalent thing is to use:

      http://goosh.org/?q={searchTerms}

where {searchTerms} can be replaced with %s in a bookmark.

--Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun  6 04:04:59 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:04:59 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
	<dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484919DB.8050500@gmx.net>

Daniel Bainton wrote:

> Use 'addengine' on the goosh command line, then you can do
> :open goosh translate english spanish hello

That's certainly ok, but a :goosh tr<tab> -> translate
completion would certainly make using goosh easier, especially 
if you don't know all operations by heart.

--
Martin

From dpb at driftaway.org  Fri Jun  6 04:14:49 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 14:14:49 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] integrating goosh
In-Reply-To: <484919DB.8050500@gmx.net>
References: <a6e80efe0806040901h6a4f8212q57685ab7618cb0ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<4846BF50.6060709@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806060057h1a7ccb4s50eb3dee5b077e8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48490C51.4040609@tedpavlic.com>
	<dd9711230806060326y202fe678w287a22613ad4ab90@mail.gmail.com>
	<484919DB.8050500@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806060414p2e88fb0na1887d3304fb1688@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/6 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> Daniel Bainton wrote:
>
>> Use 'addengine' on the goosh command line, then you can do
>> :open goosh translate english spanish hello
>
> That's certainly ok, but a :goosh tr<tab> -> translate
> completion would certainly make using goosh easier, especially
> if you don't know all operations by heart.

Sure, someone could do a plugin for it for that. :)

--
Daniel

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 09:56:25 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:56:25 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Gmail statusbar red in Vimperator
Message-ID: <880dece00806060956m208cd415vabf944b69901271c@mail.gmail.com>

In Vimperator the status bar is red for me in Gmail. I am connecting
to the https url. In an alternative profile, the addressbar is yellow.
Should I be worried that my connection to Gmail is compromised, could
this be a bug in Vimperator, or could this be something else?

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From aendruk at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 10:45:28 2008
From: aendruk at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A6ndr=C3=BCk?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:45:28 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] No equivalent to Ctrl-k for bringing focus to
	search bar?
In-Reply-To: <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
References: <152aefdf0805271702r348ae62eyd88200595469c1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>
	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net> <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
Message-ID: <152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>

I've just settled on the following workaround. Seems to work well
enough for now, though the visual bell is quite annoying.

noremap <C-k> <A-d><Tab>

--
Andrew

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Armin <m05c63c02 at sneakemail.com> wrote:
> Just to throw in what I usually do (very basic):
>
> I press "I" to shut off the keyboard processing, then I press "CTRL-K" and
> later I press "ESC" to switch keyboard processing ofvimperator on again.
>
> I do like vimperator very much!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Stubenschrott stubenschrott-at-gmx.net |ArminFF1|"
> <...>
> To: <..........................>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vimperator] No equivalent to Ctrl-k for bringing focus to
> search bar?
>
>
>> ?ndr?k wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way, when Vimperator is installed, to enter a search query
>>> and see suggestions _as I type_ without having to use the mouse?
>>
>> No. usually you would be able to focus the search field with <c-v><c-k>,
>> but in this case, it is broken. I don't know why exactly, but Firefox
>> is generating massive amounts of focus/blur events, instead of just one.
>>
>> This breaks the focusing unfortunatly :(
>>
>> --
>> Martin
>> _______________________________________________
>> Vimperator mailing list
>> Vimperator at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>>
>
>
> --
> Armin
>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun  6 10:55:30 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:55:30 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] No equivalent to Ctrl-k for bringing focus
 to	search bar?
In-Reply-To: <152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <152aefdf0805271702r348ae62eyd88200595469c1a@mail.gmail.com>	<483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net>
	<16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
	<152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48497A12.5050902@gmx.net>

?ndr?k wrote:

> I've just settled on the following workaround. Seems to work well
> enough for now, though the visual bell is quite annoying.
> 
> noremap <C-k> <A-d><Tab>

If you escape firefox keybindings like <A-d>, you don't get a visualbell.

Try:

:noremap <C-k> <C-v><A-d><Tab>

From robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com  Fri Jun  6 16:13:19 2008
From: robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com (Bob Farrell)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 00:13:19 +0100
Subject: [Vimperator] Offline mode on by default
In-Reply-To: <48497A12.5050902@gmx.net>
References: <152aefdf0805271702r348ae62eyd88200595469c1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>
	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net> <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
	<152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48497A12.5050902@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080606231319.GA19766@keys>

This is a problem I've been having with Firefox since I updated to
version 3. No idea how to turn it off permanently but I can turn it off
via the file menu; is there a way to turn offline mode off from
vimpernator?
-- 
Bob Farrell

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun  6 16:38:13 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:38:13 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Offline mode on by default
In-Reply-To: <20080606231319.GA19766@keys>
References: <152aefdf0805271702r348ae62eyd88200595469c1a@mail.gmail.com>	<483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net>
	<16519-33039@sneakemail.com>	<152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>	<48497A12.5050902@gmx.net>
	<20080606231319.GA19766@keys>
Message-ID: <4849CA65.9050806@gmx.net>

Bob Farrell wrote:

> This is a problem I've been having with Firefox since I updated to
> version 3. No idea how to turn it off permanently but I can turn it off
> via the file menu; is there a way to turn offline mode off from
> vimpernator?


Just some minutes ago, there was a new features commited in CVS:
:set [no]online, maybe this fixes your problem automatically, because
"online" is the default.

--
Martin

From robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com  Sat Jun  7 02:22:59 2008
From: robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com (Bob Farrell)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:22:59 +0100
Subject: [Vimperator] Offline mode on by default
In-Reply-To: <4849CA65.9050806@gmx.net>
References: <483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>
	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net> <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
	<152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48497A12.5050902@gmx.net> <20080606231319.GA19766@keys>
	<4849CA65.9050806@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080607092259.GA20320@keys>

On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 01:38:13AM +0200, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Just some minutes ago, there was a new features commited in CVS:
> :set [no]online, maybe this fixes your problem automatically, because
> "online" is the default.
> 
> --
> Martin

That's great, I'll check it when I get home. Sorry for calling it
Vimpernator, it had been a long day. :-)
-- 
Bob Farrell

From informationeagle at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 10:02:41 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:02:41 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Vimperator: .vimperator for Mac
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806031113n3f4992efic7f2021e60d5e559@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9917f4490806071002v434ff68co2ab75c4080746ecd@mail.gmail.com>

Problem solved!  Thanks to all who helped with this, particularly Ted who
took the time to write in detail.  I corrected the DMG problem on the Mac by
ejecting the desktop icon and the dock icon (main source of trouble there).
Firefox is now being started from the Applications Folder as I understand it
should be.   Then I went into terminal and the darned _vimperatorrc file
*still* appeared as _vimperatorrc.txt in spite of the fact that OSX was
showing it, even in properties and info, as _vimperatorrc.  From Terminal it
was a snap to rename it correctly and viola,  *finally*  it was read
properly by Vimperator.  :-)   Like most of these things, the problem seems
so trivial now *afterwards.*  Many thanks to the list!
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From runsnake at sina.com  Sat Jun  7 12:26:04 2008
From: runsnake at sina.com (runsnake at sina.com)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:26:04 +0800 
Subject: [Vimperator] about vimperatorrc
Message-ID: <20080607192604.965C3353142@mail3-107.sinamail.sina.com.cn>

Hi:

     First of all, thank you for the great work!

    I used portable firefox RC2 under Windows (http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable/test). This is very useful if you want to take Firefox with you to work on various
machines by USB stick. But the RC file of Vimperator (.vimperatorrc or _vimperatorrc) is only in the user's '$HOME'(~) directory. So if I use Vimperator through USB stick in another PC, I had to copy the file of vimperatorrc to certain '$HOME' directory.  
Even though using  $VIMPERATOR_HOME, I had to define the user or system variable for $VIMPERATOR_HOME. 

   So please add the search order for vimperatorrc:

   Windows - ~/_vimperatorrc then ~/.vimperatorrc after that the directory in which vimperator extension is located.


   Yours sincerely
 

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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun  7 14:02:36 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:02:36 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] about vimperatorrc
In-Reply-To: <20080607192604.965C3353142@mail3-107.sinamail.sina.com.cn>
References: <20080607192604.965C3353142@mail3-107.sinamail.sina.com.cn>
Message-ID: <484AF76C.9010608@gmx.net>

runsnake at sina.com wrote:
> Even though using $VIMPERATOR_HOME, I had to define the user or system
> variable for $VIMPERATOR_HOME.
> 
> So please add the search order for vimperatorrc:
> 
> Windows - ~/_vimperatorrc then ~/.vimperatorrc after that the directory
> in which vimperator extension is located.

It's not that only the .vimperatorrc is searched there but also
~/.vimperator/{plugin,macros,...} changing all this code would make
it quite a mess. I think, having $VIMPERATOR_HOME should be enough
for those use cases.

--
Martin

From robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com  Sat Jun  7 14:17:13 2008
From: robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com (Bob Farrell)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:17:13 +0100
Subject: [Vimperator] Offline mode on by default
In-Reply-To: <4849CA65.9050806@gmx.net>
References: <483CAF48.5010701@gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805272010k2e093530o6dd1c0d5489b94c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<644fc65e0805272049h74e5a19l9e22d47901ad089c@mail.gmail.com>
	<152aefdf0805281602peefa1bdxd43bc2e358829011@mail.gmail.com>
	<483DF1F5.9070302@gmx.net> <16519-33039@sneakemail.com>
	<152aefdf0806061045q3b857b7sfcf4ffd51430c7d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48497A12.5050902@gmx.net> <20080606231319.GA19766@keys>
	<4849CA65.9050806@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080607211713.GA21142@keys>

On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 01:38:13AM +0200, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Bob Farrell wrote:
> 
> > This is a problem I've been having with Firefox since I updated to
> > version 3. No idea how to turn it off permanently but I can turn it off
> > via the file menu; is there a way to turn offline mode off from
> > vimpernator?
> 
> 
> Just some minutes ago, there was a new features commited in CVS:
> :set [no]online, maybe this fixes your problem automatically, because
> "online" is the default.

Yes, this fixed it! The build process was really easy too, just make xpi
and then firefox ../downloads/whatver.xpi and BAM.

-- 
Bob Farrell

From ione at citromail.hu  Sat Jun  7 15:11:29 2008
From: ione at citromail.hu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?vezet=E9kneved_keresztneved?=)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:11:29 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
Message-ID: <20080607221129.2695.qmail@server08.citromail.hu>

            Hi! I'd like to ask help for the following problem:First, I have my Caps Lock set as Control key in X. Recently upgraded to FF3_beta+vimperator 1.0 where it still worked good.Today I installed FF3_rc1+(tried both vimp.1.0, 1.1 ) and when I hit "Caps Lock"+F,D,U,B etc. - it calls to the FF functions instead navigating. The strange thing is, that the default Ctrl keys are working as supposed to. I'd like to use Caps Lock because it is very convenient for pinky finger. Thank you!ione

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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun  7 15:17:54 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:17:54 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
In-Reply-To: <20080607221129.2695.qmail@server08.citromail.hu>
References: <20080607221129.2695.qmail@server08.citromail.hu>
Message-ID: <484B0912.5030405@gmx.net>

vezet?kneved keresztneved wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'd like to ask help for the following problem:
> First, I have my Caps Lock set as Control key in X.
> Recently upgraded to FF3_beta+vimperator 1.0 where it still worked good.
> Today I installed FF3_rc1+(tried both vimp.1.0, 1.1 ) and when I hit
> "Caps Lock"+F,D,U,B etc. - it calls to the FF functions instead
> navigating. The strange thing is, that the default Ctrl keys are working
> as supposed to. I'd like to use Caps Lock because it is very convenient
> for pinky finger. Thank you!

I have also:

     Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:nocaps"

but it works here.

Strange. Can anyone confirm?

--
Martin

From ione at citromail.hu  Sat Jun  7 18:11:45 2008
From: ione at citromail.hu (ione at citromail.hu)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 03:11:45 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
In-Reply-To: <484B0912.5030405@gmx.net>
References: <20080607221129.2695.qmail@server08.citromail.hu>
	<484B0912.5030405@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080608011144.GA21011@kitty>

On 00:17 Sun 08 Jun     , Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> vezet?kneved keresztneved wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'd like to ask help for the following problem:
> > First, I have my Caps Lock set as Control key in X.
> > Recently upgraded to FF3_beta+vimperator 1.0 where it still worked good.
> > Today I installed FF3_rc1+(tried both vimp.1.0, 1.1 ) and when I hit
> > "Caps Lock"+F,D,U,B etc. - it calls to the FF functions instead
> > navigating. The strange thing is, that the default Ctrl keys are working
> > as supposed to. I'd like to use Caps Lock because it is very convenient
> > for pinky finger. Thank you!
> 
> I have also:
> 
>      Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:nocaps"
> 
> but it works here.
> 
> Strange. Can anyone confirm?
> 
> --
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> 

Thx for answering. I use "ctrl:nocaps" too. Meantime, I updated portage 
and installed mozilla-firefox-bin-3.0_rc2, but problem remained. 
To be sure I also deleted ~/.mozilla, still caps key combinations
passing through. 
There is an exception in this behaviour. From insert and visual mode I can escape with
Ctrl+[ (actually Caps Lock+Alt Gr+F) combo normally. 


From dpb at driftaway.org  Mon Jun  9 03:01:39 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:01:39 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] about vimperatorrc
In-Reply-To: <484AF76C.9010608@gmx.net>
References: <20080607192604.965C3353142@mail3-107.sinamail.sina.com.cn>
	<484AF76C.9010608@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806090301y78af7805uddeef488322fd560@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/8 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> runsnake at sina.com wrote:
>> Even though using $VIMPERATOR_HOME, I had to define the user or system
>> variable for $VIMPERATOR_HOME.
>>
>> So please add the search order for vimperatorrc:
>>
>> Windows - ~/_vimperatorrc then ~/.vimperatorrc after that the directory
>> in which vimperator extension is located.
>
> It's not that only the .vimperatorrc is searched there but also
> ~/.vimperator/{plugin,macros,...} changing all this code would make
> it quite a mess. I think, having $VIMPERATOR_HOME should be enough
> for those use cases.

Yeah. You could make a small script that first sets VIMPERATOR_HOME and then
starts firefox. Should fix your problems.

--
Daniel

From korviny at atlas.cz  Mon Jun  9 06:48:47 2008
From: korviny at atlas.cz (Petr Korviny)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:48:47 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] extended hint mode with char-hints.js
Message-ID: <484D34BF.8080001@atlas.cz>

Hello, I have a little problem with ;{mode}{hint} function in Vimperator 
1.1, it looks like bug in "char-hints.js" script ver. 0.4 (downloaded 
from http://vimperator.mozdev.org/scripts.html), when i press semicolon 
";" then "y" to yank some url link and then enter characters for that 
link, nothing happen :(

Without char-hints.js plugin (with numbered hints) everything works fine.

Can anybody confirm that problem too? (OS Ubuntu 8.04, firefox 3rc2)

Thanks
Petr



From k at bijna.net  Mon Jun  9 15:27:15 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:
> It seems to me that Firefox has at least two search engine keyword
> systems. One is accessible from the search bar, address bar and
> Vimperator's (tab)open commands; the other is accessible only from the
> address bar--this is the one that the del.icio.us and possibly other

So I see Vimperator checks the search aliases followed by bookmark shortcuts.
Turns out the del.icio.us addon overrides getShortcutOrURI so its
shortcuts don't show up in either of these services.

> addons use to add search engines (del.icio.us allows bookmarks to be
> tagged as shortcuts and used in the address bar as such). I don't know
> if this is a fault in Firefox (for providing pointless redundant
> mechanisms) or the del.icio.us addon (for using a deprecated mechanism
> or using the correct mechanism incorrectly) but it seems this can be
> solved in Vimperator. The mechanism is there in Firefox, after all, so
> if adding support doesn't make Vimperator's code unwieldy...
> For Vimperator 0.5.3 I created crude patch using getShortcutOrURI()
> (takes a keyword/search string or URI, returns a URI with
> keyword/search expansion) but I'm not sure this will be the correct

Seems getShortcutOrURI will be the only method unless the del.icio.us
addon can be (and is) modified to insert its shortcuts into the
bookmark service or search service (would this create local copies
that cannot be automatically removed?). I'll follow up on this with
the delicious at mozdev.org mailing list as if this modification is
possible seems the more "correct" way to go.

> method for Vimperator 1.x. I'll be working on a patch, particularly to
> support del.icio.us bookmark shortcuts through the official
> del.icio.us addon, so guidance on where I should be looking or whether
> I should be doing this would be appreciated.
>

Below is a patch against Vimperator CVS (2008-06-09T14:20Z-0700) which
modifies stringToURLArray in util.js to use getShortcutOrURI between
specific and default calls to getSearchURL; overall behavior should be
unchanged if no addons with an overloaded getShortcutOrURI are
installed and enabled. Perhaps getShortcutOrURI, if acceptable, should
be added to or replace most of liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL?
Perhaps there's an extra feature of getSearchURL that I'm not seeing
(so I haven't removed calls to getSearchURL) but getShortcutOrURI
checks search aliases and bookmark shortcuts as long as it hasn't been
overridden by a function that doesn't fall back on the default
function (the del.icio.us addon overriding function does fall back on
the default).

diff -ru vimperator.orig/src/content/util.js vimperator/src/content/util.js
--- vimperator.orig/src/content/util.js 2008-06-09 14:21:15.136064000 -0700
+++ vimperator/src/content/util.js      2008-06-09 14:24:41.735064000 -0700
@@ -316,14 +316,23 @@
                     urls[url] = searchURL;
                     continue;
                 }
-                else // the first word was not a search engine,
search for the whole string in the default engine
+                else // the first word was not a search engine, try shortcut
                 {
-                    searchURL =
liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(urls[url], null);
-                    if (searchURL)
+                    var shortcutURL = getShortcutOrURI(urls[url]);
+                    if (shortcutURL != urls[url])
                     {
-                        urls[url] = searchURL;
+                        urls[url] = shortcutURL;
                         continue;
                     }
+                    else // not a shortcut either, search for the
whole string in the default engine
+                    {
+                        searchURL =
liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(urls[url], null);
+                        if (searchURL)
+                        {
+                            urls[url] = searchURL;
+                            continue;
+                        }
+                    }
                 }
             }

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun  9 16:06:46 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:06:46 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>

Kipling Inscore wrote:

> So I see Vimperator checks the search aliases followed by bookmark shortcuts.
> Turns out the del.icio.us addon overrides getShortcutOrURI so its
> shortcuts don't show up in either of these services.

Good investiagtion.

>> method for Vimperator 1.x. I'll be working on a patch, particularly to
>> support del.icio.us bookmark shortcuts through the official
>> del.icio.us addon, so guidance on where I should be looking or whether
>> I should be doing this would be appreciated.

If possible, i think the best way to do del.icio.us integration would be
to do a vimperator plugin.

> Below is a patch against Vimperator CVS (2008-06-09T14:20Z-0700) which
> modifies stringToURLArray in util.js to use getShortcutOrURI between
> specific and default calls to getSearchURL; overall behavior should be
> unchanged if no addons with an overloaded getShortcutOrURI are
> installed and enabled. Perhaps getShortcutOrURI, if acceptable, should
> be added to or replace most of liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL?
> Perhaps there's an extra feature of getSearchURL that I'm not seeing
> (so I haven't removed calls to getSearchURL) but getShortcutOrURI
> checks search aliases and bookmark shortcuts as long as it hasn't been
> overridden by a function that doesn't fall back on the default
> function (the del.icio.us addon overriding function does fall back on
> the default).

I had not yet time to test the patch, but it seems that you aren't handling the
postdata from getShortcutOrURI, because in:

var searchURL = liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(text, alias);
searchURL is [uri, postdata]

but maybe it still works with your way. Fully replacing bookmarks.getSearchURL
is not recommended, but maybe the part which is dealing with keywords/bookmarks
is ok.

However, I think, it would be much better to replace the parts of getSearchURL()
and keep stringToURLArray quite unmodified.

Comments welcome by other vimp devs, haven't looked at that code for a long time.

--
Martin

From k at bijna.net  Mon Jun  9 17:52:51 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:52:51 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> Kipling Inscore wrote:
>
>> So I see Vimperator checks the search aliases followed by bookmark shortcuts.
>> Turns out the del.icio.us addon overrides getShortcutOrURI so its
>> shortcuts don't show up in either of these services.
>
> Good investiagtion.
>
>>> method for Vimperator 1.x. I'll be working on a patch, particularly to
>>> support del.icio.us bookmark shortcuts through the official
>>> del.icio.us addon, so guidance on where I should be looking or whether
>>> I should be doing this would be appreciated.
>
> If possible, i think the best way to do del.icio.us integration would be
> to do a vimperator plugin.

Ah, yes, I forgot about that route. Probably the way to go. I was
hoping since del.icio.us uses somewhat standard methods this would be
more than just a del.icio.us feature but I don't know of other addons
that need special URL handling (i.e. override getShortcutOrURI or
otherwise make shortcuts available through Firefox address bar but not
Vimperator open command) so that should be sufficient.
A getShortcutOrURI plugin seems a bit odd as it's either the right
thing to do and should be in Vimperator or is the wrong thing to do
and shouldn't be in a plugin either.
A del.icio.us-specific Vimperator plugin would duplicate some of what
the official delicious addon does but wouldn't carry around all that
useless GUI code. Could also have better integration of searching
del.icio.us bookmarks by tags.

>
>> Below is a patch against Vimperator CVS (2008-06-09T14:20Z-0700) which
>> modifies stringToURLArray in util.js to use getShortcutOrURI between
>> specific and default calls to getSearchURL; overall behavior should be
>> unchanged if no addons with an overloaded getShortcutOrURI are
>> installed and enabled. Perhaps getShortcutOrURI, if acceptable, should
>> be added to or replace most of liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL?
>> Perhaps there's an extra feature of getSearchURL that I'm not seeing
>> (so I haven't removed calls to getSearchURL) but getShortcutOrURI
>> checks search aliases and bookmark shortcuts as long as it hasn't been
>> overridden by a function that doesn't fall back on the default
>> function (the del.icio.us addon overriding function does fall back on
>> the default).
>
> I had not yet time to test the patch, but it seems that you aren't handling the
> postdata from getShortcutOrURI, because in:
>
> var searchURL = liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(text, alias);
> searchURL is [uri, postdata]

An oversight on my part. getShortcutOrURI uses its second argument as
a reference to post data and returns a string.

>
> but maybe it still works with your way. Fully replacing bookmarks.getSearchURL
> is not recommended, but maybe the part which is dealing with keywords/bookmarks
> is ok.

I see that getSearchURL has a default engine option, which
getShortcutOrURI doesn't, and has a somewhat different call/return but
otherwise they seem to do the same thing. If being able to use addons
that tie into the address bar (rather than search aliases or bookmark
keywords) isn't a general concern for Vimperator there's probably
little if any advantage to changing the code to use getShortcutOrURI
(individual keyword services can be integrated more directly with
Vimperator via plugins).

>
> However, I think, it would be much better to replace the parts of getSearchURL()
> and keep stringToURLArray quite unmodified.

An easy enough change if I redo the patch. Pending recommendation I'll
work on the plugin but could do another patch or both.

>
> Comments welcome by other vimp devs, haven't looked at that code for a long time.
>
> --
> Martin
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From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 08:31:54 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:31:54 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>

I wanted to test the snapshot from
http://vimperator.driftaway.org/current/vimperator_1.2pre.xpi
(2008-Jun-10 07:30:06)
and my <C-Left> and <C-Right> keys no longer worked on a textarea.
<C-S-Left> and <C-S-Right> also don't nothing.

Does anyone having the same issue or is it because of one of my
vimperator plugins?

If anyone has the same issue:
Trying different mappings, I ended with this one, very strange but
that made them work again:
:imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
:imap <C-Right> <C-Right>

However, same mapping applied to <C-S-Left> and <C-S-Right> don't work
as expected. They only move and select one letter instead of one word.

-- 
Mahefa

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 10 08:36:18 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:36:18 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> I wanted to test the snapshot from
> http://vimperator.driftaway.org/current/vimperator_1.2pre.xpi
> (2008-Jun-10 07:30:06)
> and my <C-Left> and <C-Right> keys no longer worked on a textarea.
> <C-S-Left> and <C-S-Right> also don't nothing.
>

> Does anyone having the same issue or is it because of one of my
> vimperator plugins?


No it was due to this change:

4 days ago	stubenschrott	don't send ctrl-keys to firefox in insert mode

 

But you are right, at least some keys should be passed on, if you find more than those
four, tell me.

--
Martin

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 09:46:16 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:46:16 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
>
>
> But you are right, at least some keys should be passed on, if you find more than those
> four, tell me.
>

Actually, <C-S-End> and <C-S-Home>.

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 10 11:02:47 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:02:47 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484EC1C7.6040906@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> I wanted to test the snapshot from
> http://vimperator.driftaway.org/current/vimperator_1.2pre.xpi
> (2008-Jun-10 07:30:06)
> and my <C-Left> and <C-Right> keys no longer worked on a textarea.
> <C-S-Left> and <C-S-Right> also don't nothing.
> 
> Does anyone having the same issue or is it because of one of my
> vimperator plugins?
> 
> If anyone has the same issue:
> Trying different mappings, I ended with this one, very strange but
> that made them work again:
> :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
> :imap <C-Right> <C-Right>
> 
> However, same mapping applied to <C-S-Left> and <C-S-Right> don't work
> as expected. They only move and select one letter instead of one word.
> 


Thanks for pointing that out, (hopefully) fixed.

--
Martin

From Thomas.Svensen at fast.no  Wed Jun 11 01:51:57 2008
From: Thomas.Svensen at fast.no (Thomas Svensen)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:51:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com><484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>
	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>


> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
> <stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> > mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
> >
> >
> > But you are right, at least some keys should be passed on, if you
find more than those
> > four, tell me.
> >
> 
> Actually, <C-S-End> and <C-S-Home>.

Also, <C-BS>, to delete previous word. Actually, would be nice if <A-BS>
worked, as that would comply with the bash key bindings.

Thomas S.


From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun 11 03:52:06 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:52:06 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com><484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
Message-ID: <484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>

Thomas Svensen wrote:

>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
>> <stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
>> > mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > But you are right, at least some keys should be passed on, if you
> find more than those
>> > four, tell me.
>> >
>> 
>> Actually, <C-S-End> and <C-S-Home>.
> 
> Also, <C-BS>, to delete previous word. Actually, would be nice if <A-BS>
> worked, as that would comply with the bash key bindings.

Added <C-BS>, <A-BS>? Never used that in bash, and doesn't seem to work here.
In bash (and vimperator) i use <C-w> to delete the last word.

From Thomas.Svensen at fast.no  Wed Jun 11 04:09:32 2008
From: Thomas.Svensen at fast.no (Thomas Svensen)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:09:32 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com><484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com><DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>

"Alt-backspace" works (as do <C-W>) in my bash:

> bash --version
bash --version
GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu)

But no big deal, <C-BS> is what I intuitively type, anyway.

Thank you for fixing this!

- Thomas


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Thomas Svensen wrote:

>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
>> <stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
>> > mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > But you are right, at least some keys should be passed on, if you
> find more than those
>> > four, tell me.
>> >
>> 
>> Actually, <C-S-End> and <C-S-Home>.
> 
> Also, <C-BS>, to delete previous word. Actually, would be nice if <A-BS>
> worked, as that would comply with the bash key bindings.

Added <C-BS>, <A-BS>? Never used that in bash, and doesn't seem to work here.
In bash (and vimperator) i use <C-w> to delete the last word.
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From dpb at driftaway.org  Thu Jun 12 00:23:07 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:23:07 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] [plugin] gvimail: make gmail accessible by
	vimperator.
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40804180645q91e6375h26ba7b4282a34e61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40804180645q91e6375h26ba7b4282a34e61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806120023m4978ad32o4f454c16cfc392b6@mail.gmail.com>

2008/4/18 mahefa randimbisoa <mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com>:
> http://vimperator.mozdev.org/scripts.html said:
>> If you have written a plugin yourself, send it to the mailing list for a review, so it can be added here.
>
> Just to let you know that I've written a vimperator plugin that
> enables almost all links in gmail.
> Users of Gmail should have noticed 3 annoying problems:
>  when they type f, not all links gets hinted. Mouse is required in most cases.
>  when they use the keyboard, sometimes, the keys j,k,l,<C-F> no longer respond.
>  the WISYWIG is not usable.
>
> This plugin fixes the first 2 issues. It works with the older and
> newer versions of GMail.
>
> The plugin is available at
> http://code.google.com/p/gvimail/
> and stable versions will be also submitted to the vimperator-plugin repository
> http://coderepos.org/share/browser/lang/javascript/vimperator-plugins/trunk/gvimail.js
>
> The plugin suggest using stylechanger
> http://coderepos.org/share/browser/lang/javascript/vimperator-plugins/trunk/stylechanger.js

I've been using this plugin lately, and I love it.

I got one improvement suggestion, I dunno if it's possible or not.

When I use hints for the email titles, if they have labels in them,
it thinks the labels have the same text too.

For example, this email has the label 'vimperator'. When I go to hints
mode and type 'gvimail' to go read the mail, the hints show two links,
the label and the proper mail title. The label hint will actually do
the same thing as the other hint, shows the mail. But it's a bit annoying,
because I need to choose the hint with either '1' or '2' to go read it.
Can this be fixed somehow?

--
Daniel

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 00:48:22 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:48:22 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] [plugin] gvimail: make gmail accessible by
	vimperator.
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806120023m4978ad32o4f454c16cfc392b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40804180645q91e6375h26ba7b4282a34e61@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806120023m4978ad32o4f454c16cfc392b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806120048m62e9b900v812942464b68fcd8@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Daniel Bainton <dpb at driftaway.org> wrote:
>
> I've been using this plugin lately, and I love it.
>
> I got one improvement suggestion, I dunno if it's possible or not.
>
> When I use hints for the email titles, if they have labels in them,
> it thinks the labels have the same text too.
>

Yes, I do sometimes encounter this issue.
I promise it will soon be fixed.

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 01:45:51 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:45:51 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] [plugin] gvimail: make gmail accessible by
	vimperator.
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806120048m62e9b900v812942464b68fcd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40804180645q91e6375h26ba7b4282a34e61@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806120023m4978ad32o4f454c16cfc392b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ba1fac40806120048m62e9b900v812942464b68fcd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806120145n79bd78fbr44f7be3b985b2cdb@mail.gmail.com>

>>
>> When I use hints for the email titles, if they have labels in them,
>> it thinks the labels have the same text too.
>>
>
> Yes, I do sometimes encounter this issue.
> I promise it will soon be fixed.
>

fixed now, you can try it.

From dpb at driftaway.org  Thu Jun 12 03:28:52 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:28:52 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] [plugin] gvimail: make gmail accessible by
	vimperator.
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806120145n79bd78fbr44f7be3b985b2cdb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40804180645q91e6375h26ba7b4282a34e61@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd9711230806120023m4978ad32o4f454c16cfc392b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ba1fac40806120048m62e9b900v812942464b68fcd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ba1fac40806120145n79bd78fbr44f7be3b985b2cdb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806120328p3d72d9e8t16f0aa579899cbec@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/12 mahefa randimbisoa <mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com>:
> fixed now, you can try it.

Yes! Now it works. :)

Thanks a lot, makes my life easier. :)

--
Daniel

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 10:02:51 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:02:51 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
Message-ID: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>

The "Duplicate tab" extension lets you open a new tab with the same 
history as an existing tab.

Is there a way to do this with a command (or sequence of commands) in 
Vimperator?

I know I could always yank the current tab URL and paste it to a new 
one, but that wouldn't maintain the history.

--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 12 14:27:19 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:27:19 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

> The "Duplicate tab" extension lets you open a new tab with the same 
> history as an existing tab.
> 
> Is there a way to do this with a command (or sequence of commands) in 
> Vimperator?
> 
> I know I could always yank the current tab URL and paste it to a new 
> one, but that wouldn't maintain the history.

I personally use the tabbar and just drag the tab correctly to a new
spot to get it duplicated. It's not keyboard based, but works quite
well.

A :tabdup[licate] command might be fine, but i am not coding it myself.

--
Martin

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 16:31:14 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:31:14 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com> <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>

>> I know I could always yank the current tab URL and paste it to a new 
>> one, but that wouldn't maintain the history.
> 
> I personally use the tabbar and just drag the tab correctly to a new
> spot to get it duplicated. It's not keyboard based, but works quite
> well.

I wonder if this is something that's not implemented in Mac Firefox.

When I drag tabs around, it just changes their order. I've tried adding 
modifier keys (shift+click+drag/etc.) but I never get a COPYING action.

How do you get dragging to copy? (I know this is slightly off topic)

> A :tabdup[licate] command might be fine, but i am not coding it myself.

Gotcha.


Thanks --
Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From dan at peeron.com  Thu Jun 12 16:34:57 2008
From: dan at peeron.com (Dan Boger)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:34:57 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com> <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:

> >> I know I could always yank the current tab URL and paste it to a new
> >> one, but that wouldn't maintain the history.
> >
> > I personally use the tabbar and just drag the tab correctly to a new
> > spot to get it duplicated. It's not keyboard based, but works quite
> > well.
>
> I wonder if this is something that's not implemented in Mac Firefox.
>
> When I drag tabs around, it just changes their order. I've tried adding
> modifier keys (shift+click+drag/etc.) but I never get a COPYING action.
>
> How do you get dragging to copy? (I know this is slightly off topic)


With tabmix+ installed, you can just doubleclick on the tab, or select
duplicate tab from the context menu.  The fact that it's part of various
extensions makes me think that it's not implemented in firefox directly,
which would make it a pain to implement natively in vimperator.

Of course, it would be cool if someone felt like doing it anyway :)

Dan

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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 12 16:41:44 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:41:44 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com> <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

> How do you get dragging to copy? (I know this is slightly off topic)

You must hold ctrl while dragging.

Hope this helps.

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 16:53:06 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:53:06 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
	<ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4851B6E2.6020609@tedpavlic.com>

> With tabmix+ installed, you can just doubleclick on the tab, or select 
> duplicate tab from the context menu.  The fact that it's part of various 
> extensions makes me think that it's not implemented in firefox directly, 
> which would make it a pain to implement natively in vimperator.

I used to use Tab Mix Plus too, but right now it's not supported in the 
latest FF beta. I know I could override that, and I know it would 
probably be fine, but I don't mind waiting (especially when using a beta 
browser).

That being said, I never realized double-clicking in TMP would do it. I 
always right-clicked. Right now I have "Duplicate Tab" installed to 
restore the right-click menu.

It would be nice if dragging and then holding a modifier (a la the way 
OS/X's Finder and Windows' Explorer change from 
shortcut-to-copy-to-move) would duplicate. But that has nothing to do 
with Vimperator. :)

Thanks --
Ted



-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 16:54:06 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:06 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
	<4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>

AH HA! There's the rub.

Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is 
masked by the OS. :(

I wonder if it's remappable...

Thanks --
--Ted

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Ted Pavlic wrote:
> 
>> How do you get dragging to copy? (I know this is slightly off topic)
> 
> You must hold ctrl while dragging.
> 
> Hope this helps.
-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 16:54:40 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:54:40 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
	<ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4851B740.5070306@tedpavlic.com>

NOTE: It *MUST* be a native FF thing because, as Martin just mentioned, 
cntrl+click+dragging copies the tab.

--Ted

> With tabmix+ installed, you can just doubleclick on the tab, or select 
> duplicate tab from the context menu.  The fact that it's part of various 
> extensions makes me think that it's not implemented in firefox directly, 
> which would make it a pain to implement natively in vimperator.

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From dan at peeron.com  Thu Jun 12 17:13:01 2008
From: dan at peeron.com (Dan Boger)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:13:01 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851B6E2.6020609@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com> <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
	<ced6c8e30806121634p5ab73526lf1c033771f1557a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4851B6E2.6020609@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <ced6c8e30806121713l3dfff35asdb73bea1c6201a03@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:

> > With tabmix+ installed, you can just doubleclick on the tab, or select
> > duplicate tab from the context menu.  The fact that it's part of various
> > extensions makes me think that it's not implemented in firefox directly,
> > which would make it a pain to implement natively in vimperator.
>
> I used to use Tab Mix Plus too, but right now it's not supported in the
> latest FF beta. I know I could override that, and I know it would
> probably be fine, but I don't mind waiting (especially when using a beta
> browser).
>

It might be one of the things I always override in it's settings - I know
you can set what double click does.

And I am using TMP with the current FF3 beta, you just need to get the beta
version of TMP available on their forums.

Dan (zigdon)

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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 12 17:18:18 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:18:18 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>	<4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>
	<4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

> AH HA! There's the rub.
> 
> Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is 
> masked by the OS. :(

http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-3-to-feature-tab-duplication/

Use 'Cmd'

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 17:59:18 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:59:18 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>	<4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>	<4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>
	<4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4851C666.5060308@tedpavlic.com>

>> Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is 
>> masked by the OS. :(
> 
> http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-3-to-feature-tab-duplication/
> 
> Use 'Cmd'

Unfortunately, in both RC2 and RC3, that still doesn't work. I guess no 
one has taken the time to trap "Cmd"... :(

Sad day...
--Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 18:14:14 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:14:14 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] First help misses
Message-ID: <4851C9E6.2080305@tedpavlic.com>

It SEEMS like (this problem is not easily reproducible for me, but it 
happens frequently) the first time I do a help...

":help BLAH"

where "BLAH" is anything relevant (e.g., "insert"), ":help" is 
displayed, but it doesn't go to the right term. It seems to go to a 
random spot. If I issue the same command again, I'm brought to the right 
spot.

Has anyone else had this problem?

--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Thu Jun 12 18:20:39 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:20:39 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Navigating iPaper
Message-ID: <4851CB67.4030707@tedpavlic.com>

In searching for more information on why the duplicate tab hotkey 
doesn't work in OS/X, I found this page:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/615/Keyboard-Shortcuts-for-Mac-OS-X-Firefox

The shortcuts are printed in a little "Scribd" "iPaper" application. I 
find that the only way I can use the "Search" box is by hitting <C-V> 
before each character I type.

Is there any way to turn on insert-mode inside that little box?

--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 12 18:24:22 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:24:22 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] First help misses
In-Reply-To: <4851C9E6.2080305@tedpavlic.com>
References: <4851C9E6.2080305@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <4851CC46.8090406@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

> It SEEMS like (this problem is not easily reproducible for me, but it 
> happens frequently) the first time I do a help...
> 
> ":help BLAH"
> 
> where "BLAH" is anything relevant (e.g., "insert"), ":help" is 
> displayed, but it doesn't go to the right term. It seems to go to a 
> random spot. If I issue the same command again, I'm brought to the right 
> spot.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?


Yeah, me too, and i agree it's annoying. The problem is, that it just
waits a fixed time (500ms) and then jumps to the tag. The better approach
would be to listen for the "load" event. Any volunteers? :)

--
Martin

From casey.manion at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 22:38:36 2008
From: casey.manion at gmail.com (Casey Manion)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:38:36 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851C666.5060308@tedpavlic.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com> <485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>
	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com> <4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>
	<4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com> <4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>
	<4851C666.5060308@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <66dd0ce40806122238u2727cd37t5246e11b09e2d602@mail.gmail.com>

I use Clone Window which is uses keyboard commands like Ctrl-N (new
window) which you could map,noremap,nomap or something to a pass thru
key:


http://www.pikey.me.uk/mozilla/?addon=cw



On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:
>
>>> Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is
>>> masked by the OS. :(
>>
>> http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-3-to-feature-tab-duplication/
>>
>> Use 'Cmd'
>
> Unfortunately, in both RC2 and RC3, that still doesn't work. I guess no
> one has taken the time to trap "Cmd"... :(
>
> Sad day...
> --Ted
>
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>
>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Fri Jun 13 03:30:45 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:30:45 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Sending <D-...> with :map
Message-ID: <48524C55.6070902@tedpavlic.com>

In Vimperator, I can do something like:

	:map <D-1> 1gt

However, it does not appear like I can do (random example):

	:map d <D-n>

On a Mac, <D-n> (Apple (Cmd) and n) would create a new window.

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks --
Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From coolcd05a at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 03:33:38 2008
From: coolcd05a at gmail.com (Alan CHENG)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:33:38 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] The conflict between Vimperator and Firegesure
Message-ID: <56096cc30806130333p4e47d91evd5bee1b3859bec5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I found if I turned on 'Rocker Gesture' in Firegesture, I would not be able
to follow the hinted link. For example, with 'Rocker Gesture' feature turned
on in Firegesture preferences, if I press f and the number of the target
link, I would only be able to highlight it but could not follow the link to
the target site. Could anyone reproduce this problem? I am not sure whether
I should report this to Firegesture team or Vimperator team.

Alan
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From ted at tedpavlic.com  Fri Jun 13 03:36:41 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:36:41 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <66dd0ce40806122238u2727cd37t5246e11b09e2d602@mail.gmail.com>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>
	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>
	<4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>	<4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>
	<4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>	<4851C666.5060308@tedpavlic.com>
	<66dd0ce40806122238u2727cd37t5246e11b09e2d602@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48524DB9.2030000@tedpavlic.com>

Thanks. That's a decent idea.

	Unfortunately, I have the same problem with Clone Tab as I do with 
"Duplicate Tab." They *both* have hotkeys, but those hotkeys use the 
Apple (Cmd) key on OS/X (rather than cntrl). I haven't figured out how 
to get Vimperator to *SEND* an Apple key with :map. :(

	--Ted

Casey Manion wrote:
> I use Clone Window which is uses keyboard commands like Ctrl-N (new
> window) which you could map,noremap,nomap or something to a pass thru
> key:
> 
> 
> http://www.pikey.me.uk/mozilla/?addon=cw
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:
>>>> Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is
>>>> masked by the OS. :(
>>> http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-3-to-feature-tab-duplication/
>>>
>>> Use 'Cmd'
>> Unfortunately, in both RC2 and RC3, that still doesn't work. I guess no
>> one has taken the time to trap "Cmd"... :(
>>
>> Sad day...
>> --Ted
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Vimperator mailing list
>> Vimperator at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> 

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From dpb at driftaway.org  Fri Jun 13 03:42:27 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:42:27 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Sending <D-...> with :map
In-Reply-To: <48524C55.6070902@tedpavlic.com>
References: <48524C55.6070902@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806130342j7b03a45dle7ba9c6d75993f98@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/13 Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>:
> In Vimperator, I can do something like:
>
>        :map <D-1> 1gt

No you can't. You can't map the cmd key in vimperator, nobody has made
it support that. That "appears" to work, because Firefox by default maps
D-1 etc to change tabs.

> However, it does not appear like I can do (random example):
>
>        :map d <D-n>
>
> On a Mac, <D-n> (Apple (Cmd) and n) would create a new window.

The same as before. The support isn't in Vimperator.

I looked at it a bit at some point, but couldn't get it to work. And
haven't had the time lately to work more with it.

--
Daniel

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun 13 04:00:35 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:00:35 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] The conflict between Vimperator and Firegesure
In-Reply-To: <56096cc30806130333p4e47d91evd5bee1b3859bec5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <56096cc30806130333p4e47d91evd5bee1b3859bec5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48525353.5060707@gmx.net>

Alan CHENG wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I found if I turned on 'Rocker Gesture' in Firegesture, I would not be
> able to follow the hinted link. For example, with 'Rocker Gesture'
> feature turned on in Firegesture preferences, if I press f and the
> number of the target link, I would only be able to highlight it but
> could not follow the link to the target site. Could anyone reproduce
> this problem? I am not sure whether I should report this to Firegesture
> team or Vimperator team.

That is a known problem (look at the wiki), I guess you'll just have to find a person
that uses both vimperator and Firegestures to fix the problem.

--
Martin

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 08:37:30 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:37:30 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
Message-ID: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>

Will the online help be brought back? I cannot figure out an easy way
to go to the URL in the X11 clipboard (the one that right-clicks). I
am near certain that I saw documentation on this once.

In summary:
1) How do I go to the URL in the X11 clipboard?
2) What is happening with the online documentation?

Thanks.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun 13 08:46:25 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:46:25 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48529651.2000909@gmx.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> In summary:
> 1) How do I go to the URL in the X11 clipboard?


p

> 2) What is happening with the online documentation?

Why not use the included help with :help inside vimperator ?

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 09:05:55 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:05:55 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <48529651.2000909@gmx.net>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>
	<48529651.2000909@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/13 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> In summary:
>> 1) How do I go to the URL in the X11 clipboard?
>
>
> p
>

Ah, yes, and "P" for a new tab. Thanks.

>> 2) What is happening with the online documentation?
>
> Why not use the included help with :help inside vimperator ?

It seems to have less info on some subjects, or has things in hard to
find places. After reading your reply I was able to find p/P in the F1
help, but I overlooked it before as it was under "various". I did look
in "various" however in a more skimming manner.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun 13 09:51:11 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:51:11 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>	<48529651.2000909@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4852A57F.4060706@gmx.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> It seems to have less info on some subjects, or has things in hard to
> find places. After reading your reply I was able to find p/P in the F1
> help, but I overlooked it before as it was under "various". I did look
> in "various" however in a more skimming manner.

The information is surely not less, just spread out in different files.


The "various" is just temporary, we are seeking for people anyway who
interested in putting the the things from there into better sections,
so if you volunteer then the new help will get better :)


--
Martin

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 10:02:23 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:02:23 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <4852A57F.4060706@gmx.net>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>
	<48529651.2000909@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>
	<4852A57F.4060706@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806131002o5f5b761ocbfee7152360e728@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/13 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> It seems to have less info on some subjects, or has things in hard to
>> find places. After reading your reply I was able to find p/P in the F1
>> help, but I overlooked it before as it was under "various". I did look
>> in "various" however in a more skimming manner.
>
> The information is surely not less, just spread out in different files.
>
>
> The "various" is just temporary, we are seeking for people anyway who
> interested in putting the the things from there into better sections,
> so if you volunteer then the new help will get better :)
>

I volunteer. Should I send the fixes to you, or would you prefer that
edit the pages? I have about 8 years experience hand-editing HTML, so
that would not be a problem. Only the trust factor.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun 13 10:07:49 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:07:49 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806131002o5f5b761ocbfee7152360e728@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>	<48529651.2000909@gmx.net>	<880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>	<4852A57F.4060706@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806131002o5f5b761ocbfee7152360e728@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4852A965.3050804@gmx.net>

Dotan Cohen wrote:

> I volunteer.


Cool :)

> Should I send the fixes to you, or would you prefer that
> edit the pages? I have about 8 years experience hand-editing HTML, so
> that would not be a problem. Only the trust factor.

Be aware that the html is generated from asciidoc which lives inside
src/locale/en-US/. You should just do your changes on the *.txt files
and then make a cvs diff -u > filename.patch. Then i'll just apply
the changes. If you need more help, just feel free to ask. Basic
CVS information can be found on the homepage under "source code".

--
Martin

From flaxeater at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 13:53:47 2008
From: flaxeater at gmail.com (Chad Crabtree)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:53:47 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems
Message-ID: <584940990806131353g38e78dcfh83efd334a1bcf7b3@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using Vimperator 1.1 on FF 3.0 Ubuntu. I hit f and the tags come
up then I type the numbers it puts a nice square around the link but I
cannot figure out how to follow the link.  I've looked around google
and the website but the answer fails me.  A hint would be great!

From informationeagle at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 21:41:55 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:41:55 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator]  First help misses
Message-ID: <9917f4490806132141q733f2922t6d6e53a6e1b302b3@mail.gmail.com>

I have been unable to reproduce this behavior in Vista so far.  I restarted
FF a couple of times but the :help xxxx seems to be working just fine on my
system.

It SEEMS like (this problem is not easily reproducible for me, but it
> happens frequently) the first time I do a help...
>
> ":help BLAH"
>
> where "BLAH" is anything relevant (e.g., "insert"), ":help" is
> displayed, but it doesn't go to the right term. It seems to go to a
> random spot. If I issue the same command again, I'm brought to the right
> spot.
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> --Ted
>
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From ted at tedpavlic.com  Sat Jun 14 05:18:42 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:18:42 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] First help misses
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806132141q733f2922t6d6e53a6e1b302b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806132141q733f2922t6d6e53a6e1b302b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4853B722.20907@tedpavlic.com>

Martin has responded to this explaining the problem.

I suspect that on a very fast machine, you won't see the problem.

It turns out that ":help" is not event based -- it's a dead reckoner 
based on time. If everything isn't loaded by the time it hops, then it 
hops to the wrong place.

Someone should volunteer to make it event based (i.e., wait for the full 
"onLoad" event).

--Ted

Edward Gomez wrote:
> I have been unable to reproduce this behavior in Vista so far.  I 
> restarted FF a couple of times but the :help xxxx seems to be working 
> just fine on my system.
> 
>     It SEEMS like (this problem is not easily reproducible for me, but it
>     happens frequently) the first time I do a help...
> 
>     ":help BLAH"
> 
>     where "BLAH" is anything relevant (e.g., "insert"), ":help" is
>     displayed, but it doesn't go to the right term. It seems to go to a
>     random spot. If I issue the same command again, I'm brought to the right
>     spot.
> 
>     Has anyone else had this problem?
> 
>     --Ted
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From had at actinet.cz  Sat Jun 14 11:28:31 2008
From: had at actinet.cz (=?UTF-8?Q?Hanu=C5=A1_Adler?=)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:28:31 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] comma and quotes
In-Reply-To: <48217237.9010308@gmx.net>
References: <91325fec0805061052n73c41a13qc803995f0642d30b@mail.gmail.com>	<48209C85.4050309@gmx.net>
	<91325fec0805061110g6d0ad19dod9d3d98766b12896@mail.gmail.com>
	<48217237.9010308@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2D819A38-2A4B-48F4-86B7-CDD8EA19BACB@actinet.cz>

On 7.5.2008, at 11:11, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> So you can do e.g. :open osnews<tab>, slashdot<tab> to open a  
> series of
> bookmarks quickly.

Hello, would it be possible to have a setting that would make  
vimperator treat ", " (comma+space) not as a separator? Or make it  
behave that way if it is enclosed in quotes or apostrophes?

I was trying to create a shortcut that would allow me to select an  
address and by pressing one key take me directly to google maps at  
the addres ? and because most addresses have commas in them, my  
bookmark "http://maps.google.cz/maps?q=%s" cannot really work now  
without me remembering to remove the commas manually :(

Thanks in advance
Hanu? Adler

From robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com  Sat Jun 14 12:51:24 2008
From: robertanthonyfarrell at googlemail.com (Bob Farrell)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:51:24 +0100
Subject: [Vimperator] Go to URL in clipboard
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>
References: <880dece00806130837r166a040cp4e8227f8b146b821@mail.gmail.com>
	<48529651.2000909@gmx.net>
	<880dece00806130905r327e5135u6fb7b3322a1af642@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080614195124.GA9913@keys>

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 07:05:55PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/6/13 Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>:
> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >
> >> In summary:
> >> 1) How do I go to the URL in the X11 clipboard?
> >
> >
> > p
> >
> 
> Ah, yes, and "P" for a new tab. Thanks.
> 
> >> 2) What is happening with the online documentation?
> >
> > Why not use the included help with :help inside vimperator ?
> 
> It seems to have less info on some subjects, or has things in hard to
> find places. After reading your reply I was able to find p/P in the F1
> help, but I overlooked it before as it was under "various". I did look
> in "various" however in a more skimming manner.
> 
> Dotan Cohen
> 
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
> ?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?
> 
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

Assuming you've got a keyboard friendly WM this shouldn't be too
difficult to generecise so you don't have to be in vimperator. I use
StumpWM and I have M-u globally bound to launch my URL script which will
do something appropriate, depending on the type of URL (launch it in
firefox, display the image in xli, etc. etc.). It makes more sense to me
to do something like this at the WM level.
-- 
Bob Farrell

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 14 16:15:55 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:15:55 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] First help misses
In-Reply-To: <9917f4490806132141q733f2922t6d6e53a6e1b302b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9917f4490806132141q733f2922t6d6e53a6e1b302b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4854512B.7000303@gmx.net>

Edward Gomez wrote:

> I have been unable to reproduce this behavior in Vista so far.  I
> restarted FF a couple of times but the :help xxxx seems to be working
> just fine on my system.

If you have a fast computer/hard disk, you probably won't see the problem,
because it only shows when the first display of the help page takes more
than 500ms.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 14 16:32:38 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:32:38 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] comma and quotes
In-Reply-To: <2D819A38-2A4B-48F4-86B7-CDD8EA19BACB@actinet.cz>
References: <91325fec0805061052n73c41a13qc803995f0642d30b@mail.gmail.com>	<48209C85.4050309@gmx.net>	<91325fec0805061110g6d0ad19dod9d3d98766b12896@mail.gmail.com>	<48217237.9010308@gmx.net>
	<2D819A38-2A4B-48F4-86B7-CDD8EA19BACB@actinet.cz>
Message-ID: <48545516.4000104@gmx.net>

Hanu? Adler wrote:

> Hello, would it be possible to have a setting that would make  
> vimperator treat ", " (comma+space) not as a separator? Or make it  
> behave that way if it is enclosed in quotes or apostrophes?

Configurability for this like :set urlseparators=,\s+ would be a nice idea,
I put it on the TODO, but with very low priority, so don't expect it soon.

> I was trying to create a shortcut that would allow me to select an  
> address and by pressing one key take me directly to google maps at  
> the addres ? and because most addresses have commas in them, my  
> bookmark "http://maps.google.cz/maps?q=%s" cannot really work now  
> without me remembering to remove the commas manually :(

As a workaround, you could map that key to a :javascript function which does
url.replace(/ /, "%20") to get rid of the spaces and use the HTML counterpart
for it.

--
Martin

From cbill.lam at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 18:12:37 2008
From: cbill.lam at gmail.com (bill lam)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:12:37 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] clear address bar and search bar
Message-ID: <48546C85.6080301@gmail.com>

Hi,
If there is already some text inside the address bar or search bar (that on the 
upper right corner), how to delete their contents?

regards,

From pete at flooble.net  Sat Jun 14 18:57:10 2008
From: pete at flooble.net (Peter Wright)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:57:10 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] newly-added "custom keyword" not usable (via :open)
	until after	Firefox restart
Message-ID: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>


Hi all,

Using Vimperator 1.0 on Firefox 3RC2.

I've just noticed an odd little buglet - when adding a new "custom
keyword" bookmark (eg. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/%s with
keyword "t" (for, um, "thesaurus search")), it was immediately usable
from the normal location bar, but *not* usable from :open or :tabopen.

But after restarting Firefox, the new custom keyword worked fine from
:open/:tabopen.

Without exerting myself to look at the source (well, not quite yet :)),
is this a known issue and is there a known workaround?

My first guess was that Vimperator was by default only grabbing the
existing custom keywords at startup, so I hoped there might be a way
to force a "reload" or something similar.

Any suggestions appreciated, thanks.


Pete.
-- 
A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions
that make it fail.  -- Jerry Ogdin

From k at bijna.net  Sat Jun 14 19:25:54 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:25:54 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] newly-added "custom keyword" not usable (via
	:open) until after Firefox restart
In-Reply-To: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
References: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806141925y4f37458dk25ea5b07e6d510d0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Peter Wright <pete at flooble.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Using Vimperator 1.0 on Firefox 3RC2.
>
> I've just noticed an odd little buglet - when adding a new "custom
> keyword" bookmark (eg. http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/%s with
> keyword "t" (for, um, "thesaurus search")), it was immediately usable
> from the normal location bar, but *not* usable from :open or :tabopen.
>
> But after restarting Firefox, the new custom keyword worked fine from
> :open/:tabopen.
>
> Without exerting myself to look at the source (well, not quite yet :)),
> is this a known issue and is there a known workaround?

I have noticed this but I don't know if it's officially "known" by the
actual dev team.
The current workaround without modifying vimperator, as far as I know,
is to restart firefox...
Hopefully there's an easier and better workaround but if you want a
workaround now, my patch in the thread "Addon search keywords" might
do, as it more directly emulates the standard location bar (but has
not been cleaned up to avoid duplicated effort and apply entirely
globally to keyword/search lookup). Unzip vimperator.jar, apply the
patch, and rezip a new vimperator.jar. You don't actually have to
*look* at the source code.

>
> My first guess was that Vimperator was by default only grabbing the
> existing custom keywords at startup, so I hoped there might be a way\
> to force a "reload" or something similar.

Pretty close. Keywords are only grabbed the first time they are needed
and cached thereafter. I don't know of a way to force reload.

>
> Any suggestions appreciated, thanks.
>
>
> Pete.
> --
> A debugged program is one for which you have not yet found the conditions
> that make it fail.  -- Jerry Ogdin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>

From flaxeater at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 20:06:25 2008
From: flaxeater at gmail.com (Chad Crabtree)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:06:25 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems
In-Reply-To: <584940990806131353g38e78dcfh83efd334a1bcf7b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <584940990806131353g38e78dcfh83efd334a1bcf7b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <584940990806142006x3b15ea5ma9c5dc36a98e7d5@mail.gmail.com>

I'm using Vimperator 1.1 on FF 3.0 Ubuntu. I hit f and the tags come
up then I type the numbers it puts a nice square around the link but I
cannot figure out how to follow the link.  I've looked around google
and the website but the answer fails me.  A hint would be great!

From vimperator at mozdev.org  Sat Jun 14 19:04:21 2008
From: vimperator at mozdev.org (csm)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:04:21 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems
Message-ID: <6svm0v$50gd9@mgw1i.momail.org>

Do you have fire gestures plugin installed? Try disabling  mouse rocker if so.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Crabtree <vimperator at mozdev.org>
Sent: June 13, 2008 4:53 PM
To: vimperator at mozdev.org
Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems

I'm using Vimperator 1.1 on FF 3.0 Ubuntu. I hit f and the tags come
up then I type the numbers it puts a nice square around the link but I
cannot figure out how to follow the link.  I've looked around google
and the website but the answer fails me.  A hint would be great!
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 14 20:24:35 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:24:35 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] newly-added "custom keyword" not usable (via
 :open) until after	Firefox restart
In-Reply-To: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
References: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
Message-ID: <48548B73.2080904@gmx.net>

Peter Wright wrote:

> Without exerting myself to look at the source (well, not quite yet :)),
> is this a known issue and is there a known workaround?

It is known.

workaround:

1.) Use :bmark -keyword=foo -title="my title" myurl  - then it'll be available immediatly

OR

2.) bind a key to :js bookmarks.get("", [], true);

--
Martin

From pete at flooble.net  Sat Jun 14 21:05:14 2008
From: pete at flooble.net (Peter Wright)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:05:14 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] newly-added "custom keyword" not usable
	(via	:open) until after Firefox restart
In-Reply-To: <48548B73.2080904@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806141925y4f37458dk25ea5b07e6d510d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net> <48548B73.2080904@gmx.net>
	<20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
	<53f7fc100806141925y4f37458dk25ea5b07e6d510d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080615040514.GE18097@flooble.net>

On 14/06 19:25:54, Kipling Inscore wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Peter Wright <pete at flooble.net> wrote:
[ snip ]
> > Without exerting myself to look at the source (well, not quite yet
> > :)), is this a known issue and is there a known workaround?
[ ... ]
> Hopefully there's an easier and better workaround but if you want a
> workaround now, my patch in the thread "Addon search keywords" might
> do, as it more directly emulates the standard location bar (but has
> not been cleaned up to avoid duplicated effort and apply entirely
> globally to keyword/search lookup).

Cool - I'll have a look.

> Unzip vimperator.jar, apply the patch, and rezip a new
> vimperator.jar. You don't actually have to *look* at the source
> code.

Given Martin's workaround suggestions below, I'll probably use your
patch _just_ to look at the source code. :-)

It'll be useful to get some idea of how to modify Vimperator re: an
issue (albeit minor) that matters to me.

> > My first guess was that Vimperator was by default only grabbing
> > the existing custom keywords at startup, so I hoped there might be
> > a way to force a "reload" or something similar.
> 
> Pretty close. Keywords are only grabbed the first time they are
> needed and cached thereafter. I don't know of a way to force reload.

Thanks for that, much appreciated.

I'd think it would seem appropriate to refresh the keyword info every
time a new bookmark is added, but I suspect there's probably not a
straightforward way for Vimperator to hook a handler into a
generic new-bookmark event (unless the event's generated by Vimperator
itself, as Martin describes below).

On 15/06 05:24:35, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Peter Wright wrote:
> > Without exerting myself to look at the source (well, not quite yet
> > :)), is this a known issue and is there a known workaround?
> 
> It is known.

Oh good. Do you know if there are any plans afoot to deal with it, or
has it been thrown in the too-much-work-for-too-little-gain basket?

I'm quite familiar with that basket myself, so please don't take that
as criticism. :-)

> workaround:
> 
> 1.) Use :bmark -keyword=foo -title="my title" myurl  - then it'll be available immediatly
> 
> OR
> 
> 2.) bind a key to :js bookmarks.get("", [], true);

Ah, excellent. That (#1) will do nicely - much better than the
laborious bookmark-editing approach I used previously.

> Martin

Thank you both for the quick response(s).

Pete.
-- 
I've observed that most people who complain about ad hominem attacks
are crank-addicted pedophiles.  -- Unclaimed Mysteries on hsv.general

From dpb at driftaway.org  Sun Jun 15 00:49:01 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:49:01 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] clear address bar and search bar
In-Reply-To: <48546C85.6080301@gmail.com>
References: <48546C85.6080301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806150049t7f7fd607m6c7a1dfbf77a131c@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/15 bill lam <cbill.lam at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> If there is already some text inside the address bar or search bar (that on the
> upper right corner), how to delete their contents?

You select the text in them with your keyboard or mouse and delete
them, just like in normal firefox.

The address and search bars aren't part of Vimperator, we don't
provide support for them.

--
Daniel

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sun Jun 15 02:52:40 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:52:40 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] newly-added "custom keyword" not
 usable	(via	:open) until after Firefox restart
In-Reply-To: <20080615040514.GE18097@flooble.net>
References: <20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>
	<48548B73.2080904@gmx.net>	<20080615015710.GA6391@flooble.net>	<53f7fc100806141925y4f37458dk25ea5b07e6d510d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080615040514.GE18097@flooble.net>
Message-ID: <4854E668.40201@gmx.net>

Peter Wright wrote:
> I'd think it would seem appropriate to refresh the keyword info every
> time a new bookmark is added, but I suspect there's probably not a
> straightforward way for Vimperator to hook a handler into a
> generic new-bookmark event (unless the event's generated by Vimperator
> itself, as Martin describes below).

Yeah, that would be the way to go (the hook), and i guess it probably
would be somehow possible, i just don't know how.

> Oh good. Do you know if there are any plans afoot to deal with it, or
> has it been thrown in the too-much-work-for-too-little-gain basket?

No plans from my side, but patches very welcome.

--
Martin

From flaxeater at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 05:53:15 2008
From: flaxeater at gmail.com (Chad Crabtree)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:53:15 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems
In-Reply-To: <6svm0v$50gd9@mgw1i.momail.org>
References: <6svm0v$50gd9@mgw1i.momail.org>
Message-ID: <584940990806150553u9ad617cu6a675f6836ccda9b@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you very much that was the problem. Now I can use this awesome extension!

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:04 PM, csm <vimperator at mozdev.org> wrote:
> Do you have fire gestures plugin installed? Try disabling  mouse rocker if so.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Crabtree <vimperator at mozdev.org>
> Sent: June 13, 2008 4:53 PM
> To: vimperator at mozdev.org
> Subject: [Vimperator] Quick Hints following link problems
>
> I'm using Vimperator 1.1 on FF 3.0 Ubuntu. I hit f and the tags come
> up then I type the numbers it puts a nice square around the link but I
> cannot figure out how to follow the link.  I've looked around google
> and the website but the answer fails me.  A hint would be great!
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
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>

From informationeagle at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 11:55:52 2008
From: informationeagle at gmail.com (Edward Gomez)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:55:52 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] First help misses
Message-ID: <9917f4490806151155t3d6d9c23h9c05a512645988db@mail.gmail.com>

I can confirm that my computer is new and has an Intel t8100 Penryn chip
with a 5400rpms hard drive.

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM, <Martin Stubenschrott> wrote:

> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:15:55 +0200
> From: Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: [Vimperator] First help misses
> To: vimperator at mozdev.org
> Message-ID: <4854512B.7000303 at gmx.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Edward Gomez wrote:
>
> > I have been unable to reproduce this behavior in Vista so far.  I
> > restarted FF a couple of times but the :help xxxx seems to be working
> > just fine on my system.
>
> If you have a fast computer/hard disk, you probably won't see the problem,
> because it only shows when the first display of the help page takes more
> than 500ms.
>
> --
> Martin
>
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From lists at informa.tiker.net  Mon Jun 16 10:33:07 2008
From: lists at informa.tiker.net (Andreas =?utf-8?q?Kl=C3=B6ckner?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:33:07 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Events supported by autocmd
Message-ID: <200806161333.13638.lists@informa.tiker.net>

Hi there,

the help file should be more verbose on what kinds of events are supported 
by 'autocmd'.

Thanks,
Andreas
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From lists at informa.tiker.net  Mon Jun 16 10:38:50 2008
From: lists at informa.tiker.net (Andreas =?utf-8?q?Kl=C3=B6ckner?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:38:50 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] setlocal passthrough?
Message-ID: <200806161338.51681.lists@informa.tiker.net>

Hi there,

I'm trying to make my particular use case work with vimperator:

I usually keep a tab with my note taking tool [1] open all the time. This tool 
has its own keyboard handler, so I would like this tab to stay in passthru 
mode, while all the other tabs should default to regular vimperator mode. I 
feel like what I want is "setlocal passthrough", but 

a) pass-through mode is not a set-able option (yet)
b) setlocal doesn't exist

Does this make sense? If not, how else would I achieve what I want?

Relatedly, I use (and like) Google's experimental search page keyboard 
bindings (j,k,/). I would like to be able to use them automatically, possibly 
by an autocmd. Then, as soon as I leave the search page, pass-thru mode 
should disable itself. Can this be done?

Thanks,
Andreas

[1] http://mathema.tician.de/software/synoptic
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From dpb at driftaway.org  Mon Jun 16 11:02:14 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:02:14 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Events supported by autocmd
In-Reply-To: <200806161333.13638.lists@informa.tiker.net>
References: <200806161333.13638.lists@informa.tiker.net>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806161102y7c5a4e02hceef8683e9dae3ec@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/16 Andreas Kl?ckner <lists at informa.tiker.net>:
> Hi there,
>
> the help file should be more verbose on what kinds of events are supported
> by 'autocmd'.

It lists all that are supported so far. Someone just needs to add more
to the code.

--
Daniel

From lists at informa.tiker.net  Mon Jun 16 11:16:06 2008
From: lists at informa.tiker.net (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?Kl=F6ckner?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Events supported by autocmd
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806161102y7c5a4e02hceef8683e9dae3ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806161333.13638.lists@informa.tiker.net>
	<dd9711230806161102y7c5a4e02hceef8683e9dae3ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806161416.08029.lists@informa.tiker.net>

On Montag 16 Juni 2008, Daniel Bainton wrote:
> 2008/6/16 Andreas Kl?ckner <lists at informa.tiker.net>:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > the help file should be more verbose on what kinds of events are
> > supported by 'autocmd'.
>
> It lists all that are supported so far. Someone just needs to add more
> to the code.

:help autocmd gives me this

8< --------------------------------------------------------------------

:au[tocmd]

Execute commands automatically on events. :au[tocmd] {event} {pat} {cmd}. Add 
{cmd} to the list of commands Vimperator will execute on {event}:

    *      :autocmd[!] {events} {pat}: list/remove autocommands filtered be 
{events} and {pat}
    *      :autocmd[!] {events}: list/remove autocommands matching {events}
    *      :autocmd[!] * {pat}: list/remove autocommands matching {pat}
    *      :autocmd[!]: list/remove all autocommands

8< --------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't see a list of events there.

:autocmd

gives me an empty list.

Are you trying to say there aren't any autocmds right now?

Andreas
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From lists at informa.tiker.net  Mon Jun 16 11:17:10 2008
From: lists at informa.tiker.net (Andreas =?utf-8?q?Kl=C3=B6ckner?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:17:10 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Passthru mode
Message-ID: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>

Hi there,

another request: If I accidentally hit Ctrl-Q for passthru mode twice, my 
browser closes. Ctrl-Q may not be the best choice for this keybinding.

Andreas
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From penryu at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 11:38:27 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Events supported by autocmd
In-Reply-To: <200806161416.08029.lists@informa.tiker.net>
References: <200806161333.13638.lists@informa.tiker.net>
	<dd9711230806161102y7c5a4e02hceef8683e9dae3ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806161416.08029.lists@informa.tiker.net>
Message-ID: <20080616183827.GA13593@kame>

Andreas Kl?ckner wrote:
> Daniel Bainton wrote:
> > 2008/6/16 Andreas Kl?ckner <lists at informa.tiker.net>:
> > > the help file should be more verbose on what kinds of events are
> > > supported by 'autocmd'.
> >
> > It lists all that are supported so far. Someone just needs to add
> > more to the code.

[ snip paste ]

> I don't see a list of events there.
> 
> :autocmd
> 
> gives me an empty list.
> 
> Are you trying to say there aren't any autocmds right now?

This part of the documentation was added after the most recent
release.  The autocommands.html helpfile now lists the following
events:

: Available {events}:
:
:     * Startup
:     * Quit
:     * PageLoad

Daniel Bainton provides daily CVS snapshots[1] of vimperator.

[1] http://vimperator.driftaway.org/

Tim

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 16 14:30:22 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:30:22 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] setlocal passthrough?
In-Reply-To: <200806161338.51681.lists@informa.tiker.net>
References: <200806161338.51681.lists@informa.tiker.net>
Message-ID: <4856DB6E.5020807@gmx.net>

Andreas Kl?ckner wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I'm trying to make my particular use case work with vimperator:
> 
> I usually keep a tab with my note taking tool [1] open all the time. This tool 
> has its own keyboard handler, so I would like this tab to stay in passthru 
> mode, while all the other tabs should default to regular vimperator mode. I 
> feel like what I want is "setlocal passthrough", but 
> 
> a) pass-through mode is not a set-able option (yet)
> b) setlocal doesn't exist
> 
> Does this make sense? If not, how else would I achieve what I want?
> 
> Relatedly, I use (and like) Google's experimental search page keyboard 
> bindings (j,k,/). I would like to be able to use them automatically, possibly 
> by an autocmd. Then, as soon as I leave the search page, pass-thru mode 
> should disable itself. Can this be done?

Yes, I guess there is even an example for gmail on the wiki.

:autocmd PageLoad ..., although it would be better to have a LocationChanged autocmd
which also triggers when tabs are switched.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 16 14:31:14 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:31:14 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Passthru mode
In-Reply-To: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>
References: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>
Message-ID: <4856DBA2.4060000@gmx.net>

Andreas Kl?ckner wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> another request: If I accidentally hit Ctrl-Q for passthru mode twice, my 
> browser closes. Ctrl-Q may not be the best choice for this keybinding.

Good suggestions? Ctrl-Q has a good mnemonic for "quit vimperator temporarily",
also ctrl-q isn't really used in vim.

--
Martin

From penryu at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 14:58:02 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:58:02 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Passthru mode
In-Reply-To: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>
References: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>
Message-ID: <cfbb0f060806161458m41124e2at9e63f3ae758f17f5@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Andreas Kl?ckner <lists at informa.tiker.net>
wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> another request: If I accidentally hit Ctrl-Q for passthru mode twice, my
> browser closes. Ctrl-Q may not be the best choice for this keybinding.
>

You can remap passthrough mode to another key.  E.g., Martin has suggested:

:noremap <C-x> <C-q>

Then just use <C-x> to enter passthrough so you don't accidentally kill
firefox.

Note that this is not an issue on FF/Vimperator on OSX, as <D-q> is used to
close applications instead of <C-q>.

Tim
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From chm.duquesne at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 15:30:34 2008
From: chm.duquesne at gmail.com (Christophe-Marie Duquesne)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:30:34 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Passthru mode
In-Reply-To: <cfbb0f060806161458m41124e2at9e63f3ae758f17f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806161417.11892.lists@informa.tiker.net>
	<cfbb0f060806161458m41124e2at9e63f3ae758f17f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4856E98A.4010309@gmail.com>

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Any key combination is fine, as long as you can remap it. I remapped it
to '?'. On french keyboards, this is the key just under ESC. Why don't
you find a key combination that you will like better?

Tim Hammerquist wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Andreas Kl?ckner <lists at informa.tiker.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>>
>> another request: If I accidentally hit Ctrl-Q for passthru mode twice, my
>> browser closes. Ctrl-Q may not be the best choice for this keybinding.
>>
> 
> You can remap passthrough mode to another key.  E.g., Martin has suggested:
> 
> :noremap <C-x> <C-q>
> 
> Then just use <C-x> to enter passthrough so you don't accidentally kill
> firefox.
> 
> Note that this is not an issue on FF/Vimperator on OSX, as <D-q> is used to
> close applications instead of <C-q>.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

- --
Christophe-Marie
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From ted at tedpavlic.com  Mon Jun 16 18:45:35 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:45:35 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Duplicate tab?
In-Reply-To: <4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>
References: <485156BB.1020404@tedpavlic.com>	<485194B7.8090908@gmx.net>	<4851B1C2.9030802@tedpavlic.com>	<4851B438.9050906@gmx.net>	<4851B71E.90708@tedpavlic.com>
	<4851BCCA.2000608@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4857173F.2040207@tedpavlic.com>

Found a known FF3 bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410569

Evidently, Cmd+Drag has never worked in FF3. For some reason, no one has 
taken the time to fix it even though we're up to RC3 by now (!!). It may 
be a complicated problem... <?>

The plugin writer of "Duplicate Tab" notes that as of FF3, event.metaKey 
is ALWAYS set to False. That may explain some of Vimperator's other 
problems with mapping to/from <D-?> keys.

--Ted

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Ted Pavlic wrote:
> 
>> AH HA! There's the rub.
>>
>> Cntrl+Click translates to right click on OS/X. So, that behavior is 
>> masked by the OS. :(
> 
> http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-3-to-feature-tab-duplication/
> 
> Use 'Cmd'
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> 

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Mon Jun 16 18:47:31 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:47:31 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Sending <D-...> with :map
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806130342j7b03a45dle7ba9c6d75993f98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48524C55.6070902@tedpavlic.com>
	<dd9711230806130342j7b03a45dle7ba9c6d75993f98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485717B3.1060103@tedpavlic.com>

>> On a Mac, <D-n> (Apple (Cmd) and n) would create a new window.
> 
> The same as before. The support isn't in Vimperator.
> 
> I looked at it a bit at some point, but couldn't get it to work. And
> haven't had the time lately to work more with it.

Check out this bug in FF3 (cmd+drag doesn't duplicate tabs):

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410569

According to the writer of the "Duplicate Tab" extension, as of FF3, 
event.metaKey is ALWAYS set to false.

Perhaps this is the reason why Vimperator is having the trouble.

--Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun 17 07:31:18 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:31:18 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
Message-ID: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>

Does anyone else use the del.icio.us plugin?

Among other things, the del.icio.us plugin lets you sync your bookmarks 
with del.icio.us. So, quick searches I define on my OS/X machine 
automatically pop up on my Windows machine because the plugin uses the 
del.icio.us as a bookmark store.

Unfortunately, even though the "Location bar" in FF3 seems to use 
del.icio.us when I type in a shortcut, Vimperator always looks at the 
locally stored bookmarks.

Is there another way Vimperator could be using to look up its bookmark 
shortcuts? Or has the del.icio.us plugin just hijacked the Location bar 
to make things work?

Thanks --
Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From k at bijna.net  Tue Jun 17 08:12:11 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:12:11 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:
> Does anyone else use the del.icio.us plugin?

Yes, I do.

>
> Among other things, the del.icio.us plugin lets you sync your bookmarks
> with del.icio.us. So, quick searches I define on my OS/X machine
> automatically pop up on my Windows machine because the plugin uses the
> del.icio.us as a bookmark store.
>
> Unfortunately, even though the "Location bar" in FF3 seems to use
> del.icio.us when I type in a shortcut, Vimperator always looks at the
> locally stored bookmarks.
>
> Is there another way Vimperator could be using to look up its bookmark
> shortcuts? Or has the del.icio.us plugin just hijacked the Location bar
> to make things work?

I posted a working patch that allows Vimperator to use del.icio.us
shortcuts like local ones in the (tab)open commands.
The del.icio.us addon has hijacked the function backing the location
bar so its shortcuts don't show up in bookmarks or search aliases, but
can be used by linking in to the location bar URI parsing function (as
my patch does).
For now you can apply my patch but I believe the way forward will be a
del.icio.us-specific Vimperator plugin (I'll start writing it soon)
with even better integration (and no overhead from features that don't
matter for Vimperator).

>
> Thanks --
> Ted
>
> --
> Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>

From k at bijna.net  Tue Jun 17 08:14:23 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:14:23 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>
	<53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806170814k6c7a20bcwa7fe28477fd0e5e0@mail.gmail.com>

>> Is there another way Vimperator could be using to look up its bookmark
>> shortcuts? Or has the del.icio.us plugin just hijacked the Location bar
>> to make things work?
>
> I posted a working patch that allows Vimperator to use del.icio.us
> shortcuts like local ones in the (tab)open commands.

Sorry, forgot to say where I posted it: "Addon search keywords" thread
in this vimperator mailing list.

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun 17 08:36:11 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:36:11 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>
	<53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4857D9EB.6010203@tedpavlic.com>

> I posted a working patch that allows Vimperator to use del.icio.us
> shortcuts like local ones in the (tab)open commands.

That patch (given in the "Addon search keywords" thread) is excellent. 
Thanks.

It would be nicer if that patch was a Vimperator plugin (so that I 
wouldn't have to patch Vimperator every time I upgrade it).

> The del.icio.us addon has hijacked the function backing the location
> bar so its shortcuts don't show up in bookmarks or search aliases, but
> can be used by linking in to the location bar URI parsing function (as
> my patch does).

Ok. The function that you use now --- was that added by del.icio.us? If 
so, is that going to break Vimperator if I disable del.icio.us? (or if 
del.icio.us gets disabled automatically after an FF update)

> For now you can apply my patch but I believe the way forward will be a
> del.icio.us-specific Vimperator plugin (I'll start writing it soon)
> with even better integration (and no overhead from features that don't
> matter for Vimperator).

Excellent! That's really great. Thanks.

--Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From k at bijna.net  Tue Jun 17 09:11:56 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:11:56 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <4857D9EB.6010203@tedpavlic.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>
	<53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4857D9EB.6010203@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806170911q1383e3aej277223437620eff2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:
> It would be nicer if that patch was a Vimperator plugin (so that I
> wouldn't have to patch Vimperator every time I upgrade it).

I'll be working on that. First will be reproducing the behavior of the
patch, followed by addition of tab-completion, keyboard-friendly tag
search, etc.

>
>> The del.icio.us addon has hijacked the function backing the location
>> bar so its shortcuts don't show up in bookmarks or search aliases, but
>> can be used by linking in to the location bar URI parsing function (as
>> my patch does).
>
> Ok. The function that you use now --- was that added by del.icio.us? If
> so, is that going to break Vimperator if I disable del.icio.us? (or if
> del.icio.us gets disabled automatically after an FF update)

That function is part of Firefox but it's overloaded by the
del.icio.us addon. del.icio.us added the function being used by the
patch if the del.icio.us addon is installed but it has the same name
as an existing function which will be used without the addon. If you
remove the del.icio.us addon, behavior will be basically the same as
without the patch.

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 01:52:51 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (Canhua Chen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:52:51 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
Message-ID: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest>

I would like to quickly change proxy setting 
with binded keys. I don't like clicking some 
firefox plugin that does this thing, partly
because of the inconvenience of clicking and 
partly because toolbar and menu are hiden by
default by vimperator, which is a style I like.

I wonder if we can access firefox preference
from within vimperator command? Or if we can 
from within bash? If we can from within bash,
then I can window manager binding-keys to that
bash command.

regards


From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 02:04:50 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (Canhua Chen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:04:50 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>

I just find that there is "set preferences" in Vimperator 1.*
so I think may map some key to kind of "set {pref}={value}"
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:52:51PM +0800, Canhua Chen wrote:
> I would like to quickly change proxy setting 
> with binded keys. I don't like clicking some 
> firefox plugin that does this thing, partly
> because of the inconvenience of clicking and 
> partly because toolbar and menu are hiden by
> default by vimperator, which is a style I like.
> 
> I wonder if we can access firefox preference
> from within vimperator command? Or if we can 
> from within bash? If we can from within bash,
> then I can window manager binding-keys to that
> bash command.
> 
> regards
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

From dpb at driftaway.org  Wed Jun 18 02:16:33 2008
From: dpb at driftaway.org (Daniel Bainton)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:16:33 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest> <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>

To set firefox preferences, you can use
:set! pref=value

:set without the ! just sets vimperator settings.

--
Daniel

2008/6/18 Canhua Chen <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn>:
> I just find that there is "set preferences" in Vimperator 1.*
> so I think may map some key to kind of "set {pref}={value}"
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:52:51PM +0800, Canhua Chen wrote:
>> I would like to quickly change proxy setting
>> with binded keys. I don't like clicking some
>> firefox plugin that does this thing, partly
>> because of the inconvenience of clicking and
>> partly because toolbar and menu are hiden by
>> default by vimperator, which is a style I like.
>>
>> I wonder if we can access firefox preference
>> from within vimperator command? Or if we can
>> from within bash? If we can from within bash,
>> then I can window manager binding-keys to that
>> bash command.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Vimperator mailing list
>> Vimperator at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 02:19:46 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (Canhua Chen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:19:46 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest> <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
	<dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080618091946.GC21309@VPNtest>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:16:33PM +0300, Daniel Bainton wrote:
> To set firefox preferences, you can use
> :set! pref=value
> 
> :set without the ! just sets vimperator settings.
> 
I also just notice this command. Thanx.
Vimperator just seems more and more appealling ;P
> 
> 2008/6/18 Canhua Chen <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn>:
> > I just find that there is "set preferences" in Vimperator 1.*
> > so I think may map some key to kind of "set {pref}={value}"
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:52:51PM +0800, Canhua Chen wrote:
> >> I would like to quickly change proxy setting
> >> with binded keys. I don't like clicking some
> >> firefox plugin that does this thing, partly
> >> because of the inconvenience of clicking and
> >> partly because toolbar and menu are hiden by
> >> default by vimperator, which is a style I like.
> >>
> >> I wonder if we can access firefox preference
> >> from within vimperator command? Or if we can
> >> from within bash? If we can from within bash,
> >> then I can window manager binding-keys to that
> >> bash command.
> >>
> >> regards
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Vimperator mailing list
> >> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> > _______________________________________________
> > Vimperator mailing list
> > Vimperator at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 02:22:47 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (Canhua Chen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:22:47 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] command line editing
Message-ID: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>

I don't know if any one also suggests
that Ctrl-P and Ctrl-N be enabled as
ways to scroll up and down on vimperator
command history on command editing line?
Just like Bash command line does.

From dougkearns at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 02:26:17 2008
From: dougkearns at gmail.com (Doug Kearns)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:26:17 +1000
Subject: [Vimperator] command line editing
In-Reply-To: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>
References: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <644fc65e0806180226s1887c379qc96bd11f7098dee5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Canhua Chen <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn> wrote:
> I don't know if any one also suggests
> that Ctrl-P and Ctrl-N be enabled as
> ways to scroll up and down on vimperator
> command history on command editing line?
> Just like Bash command line does.

:cmap <C-p> <Up>

Doug

From lestat at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 02:29:12 2008
From: lestat at fudan.edu.cn (lestat V)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:29:12 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] command line editing
In-Reply-To: <644fc65e0806180226s1887c379qc96bd11f7098dee5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>
	<644fc65e0806180226s1887c379qc96bd11f7098dee5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080618092912.GE21309@VPNtest>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:26:17PM +1000, Doug Kearns wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Canhua Chen <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn> wrote:
> > I don't know if any one also suggests
> > that Ctrl-P and Ctrl-N be enabled as
> > ways to scroll up and down on vimperator
> > command history on command editing line?
> > Just like Bash command line does.
> 
> :cmap <C-p> <Up>
>
Sounds clever.
Then C-p also scroll up page when view web 
page, right?

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 04:01:01 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:01:01 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] command line editing
In-Reply-To: <20080618092912.GE21309@VPNtest>
References: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>
	<644fc65e0806180226s1887c379qc96bd11f7098dee5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080618092912.GE21309@VPNtest>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806180401q78531e2la9389f83beca0abb@mail.gmail.com>

>>
>> :cmap <C-p> <Up>
>>
> Sounds clever.
> Then C-p also scroll up page when view web
> page, right?


No! cmap means mapping on command-line only. <C-p> would still go to
previous tab, when you're not on command-line.

From chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn  Wed Jun 18 09:14:49 2008
From: chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn (Canhua Chen)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:14:49 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] command line editing
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806180401q78531e2la9389f83beca0abb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080618092247.GD21309@VPNtest>
	<644fc65e0806180226s1887c379qc96bd11f7098dee5@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080618092912.GE21309@VPNtest>
	<2ba1fac40806180401q78531e2la9389f83beca0abb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080618161449.GA22632@VPNtest>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 02:01:01PM +0300, mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
> >>
> >> :cmap <C-p> <Up>
> >>
> > Sounds clever.
> > Then C-p also scroll up page when view web
> > page, right?
> 
> 
> No! cmap means mapping on command-line only. <C-p> would still go to
> previous tab, when you're not on command-line.
I also just notice related entries in HELP.
Sorry for not reading HELP carelly.

From penryu at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 11:25:55 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:25:55 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest> <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
	<dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080618182555.GA23630@kame>

Daniel Bainton wrote:
> 2008/6/18 Canhua Chen <chencanhua at fudan.edu.cn>:
> > I just find that there is "set preferences" in Vimperator 1.* so I
> > think may map some key to kind of "set {pref}={value}"
>
> To set firefox preferences, you can use
> :set! pref=value

Thanks to this, I'm about 1 plugin and 1 question from getting rid of
foxyproxy.  How can I set a firefox pref to an IP address using :set! ?

:set! network.proxy.socks=127.0.0.1

  -> "E474: Invalid argument: network.proxy.socks=127"

:set! network.proxy.socks="127.0.0.1"

  -> Assigns fine, but firefox includes the "'s in the host.
     Single-quotes also don't work.

Is there a solution to this?  A workaround is to use hostnames
like localhost in this case, But some proxies won't have hostnames, so
we'd be SOL short of hacking our /etc/hosts.

Tim

From penryu at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 11:39:04 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:39:04 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <20080618182555.GA23630@kame>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest> <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
	<dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080618182555.GA23630@kame>
Message-ID: <20080618183903.GA23723@kame>

Tim Hammerquist wrote:
[ snip ]
> How can I set a firefox pref to an IP address using :set! ?
> 
> :set! network.proxy.socks=127.0.0.1
> 
>   -> "E474: Invalid argument: network.proxy.socks=127"
> 

This seems to be related to the way parseInt() is used to detect
the type of the value being set.  I'll work on a patch for this.

Tim

From penryu at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 12:10:36 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:10:36 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] how to quickly change proxy
In-Reply-To: <20080618183903.GA23723@kame>
References: <20080618085251.GA21309@VPNtest> <20080618090450.GB21309@VPNtest>
	<dd9711230806180216w427c51e9n1b59147e66ba8327@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080618182555.GA23630@kame> <20080618183903.GA23723@kame>
Message-ID: <20080618191036.GB23723@kame>

Tim Hammerquist wrote:
> Tim Hammerquist wrote:
> [ snip ]
> > How can I set a firefox pref to an IP address using :set! ?
> > 
> > :set! network.proxy.socks=127.0.0.1
> > 
> >   -> "E474: Invalid argument: network.proxy.socks=127"
> 
> This seems to be related to the way parseInt() is used to detect
> the type of the value being set.  I'll work on a patch for this.

Patched.  Vimperator now checks that the data is completely numeric
before parseInt() is called.  This matches the values currently in my
prefs.js, and works with both 'network.proxy.socks' (string) and
'network.proxy.socks_port' (int).

Tim

From g.ryrstedt at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 13:28:38 2008
From: g.ryrstedt at gmail.com (George)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:28:38 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Possible to re-add the option of choosing several
	comma separated links
Message-ID: <44ee2d210806181328vfaca77dmef76f7eebf87c161@mail.gmail.com>

Hi I recently switched to firefox 3 and then upgraded to vimperator 1.1 but
I am having two minor problems with it or rather two discarded feuters that
I was wondering if it would be possible to re-add to vimperator
1)Quite frequently I use the option of choosing several comma separated
hints in extended hint mode and I was wondering if it would be possible to
re-add the option of doing that?
Example:
To open several links in new tabs I would do ;df,dh,hg,hft where the final t
is open in tabs but I also frequently used the a or s options (both save
file)
2)Due to the new hint system in 1.1 all links get tagged up to 3 numbers
which is fine an well but when using the char-hints.js plugin instead of it
completely reverting the hints to the olden ways it of 2 chars per link it
now uses up to 3 just as the number hints which results in execss typing and
increased misstyping as opposed to the old 2 char system so I was wondering
if there was any way to get vimperator hints to get the some labeling system
as it had in 5.x

Thanks for a great plugin!
/Sincerly yours
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From lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 21:51:41 2008
From: lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com (Zheng Li)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:51:41 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
Message-ID: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>

Hi, everyone:

I have upgraded my firefox into 3.0, and the new vimperator confuses me 
sometimes:

1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V 
does not work.  What
can I do in this situation?

2) the new quickhint mode seems to make less sense for me as a Chinese user.

Yours
Zheng
2008-6-19

From benisty.e at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 23:44:37 2008
From: benisty.e at gmail.com (Emmanuel Benisty)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:44:37 +0700
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
In-Reply-To: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
References: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c1f41c620806182344k133bf561ma19ece258747c3b4@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Zheng Li
<lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V
> does not work.  What
> can I do in this situation?

ctrl-v ctrl-v

> 2) the new quickhint mode seems to make less sense for me as a Chinese user.

as an english (keyboard) user, i can't understand your point, please explain.

From lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 00:22:26 2008
From: lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com (Zheng Li)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:22:26 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
In-Reply-To: <c1f41c620806182344k133bf561ma19ece258747c3b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
	<c1f41c620806182344k133bf561ma19ece258747c3b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485A0932.7040402@gmail.com>

Emmanuel Benisty wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Zheng Li
> <lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> 1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V
>> does not work.  What
>> can I do in this situation?
>>     
>
> ctrl-v ctrl-v
>
>   
>> 2) the new quickhint mode seems to make less sense for me as a Chinese user.
>>     
>
> as an english (keyboard) user, i can't understand your point, please explain.
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>   
Thanks your advice for my first question. My second question actually is 
that:
The new quickhint mode combines two ways to search for a link: assign a 
number  to
a link and compare the link names with the keyboard hints. It is fine 
and even faster
than the old style when you are reading English web pages. However, in 
Chinese, Japanese
or other language's webpages, the users must use input methods to input 
their own language
characters which actually appear as titles and, thus, the second method 
becomes useless.
Only being with the number key method slows down my hinting speed.

Your,
Zheng
2008-6-19

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From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 00:48:37 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:48:37 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Proposition for another hint system (was: How I paste
	text into vimperator)
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806190048v634e8508q58851c9cc8c19fef@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I'm forced to finish the link selection by using number when:
- the link has blank text (checkbox, empty textarea)
- 2 links have exactly the same text

I have one proposition for the hint system:

1) As for now, numbers are first assigned as hints for links, but you
can type letters from the link names. And as you type letters, the
number of links hinted diminishes.

2) At any time, when you hit the key * (star), the 0.5 version of hint
system apply for the remaining hinted links. Ie: suppose there remains
30 links, first link is assigned hint a, second link b, ... 26th link
z, 27th link aa, ... and when you type c, you will activate the third
link. So, for chinese users, they would probably want to type f* to
switch to the old system for all links on the page, then look at hints
(which will be j, k, f, ...) and type probably one letter or two to
activate a link, like the old system.

3) A special combination: f followed by a space and followed by a
star, will select only links that has no text associated with it, this
will be to facilitate access to empty textarea and inputbox, checkbox,
images with no alt text (actually, I think alt attribute for an image
is not considered when a link contains an image with alt attribute).
In other words, suppose you go to google.com, and want to reach the
inputbox, you type f then a space then a star: The input box will be
assigned the hint j instead of a number, the 3 radiobuttons will have
hints f, g and h. Other links that have a text are not hinted. You
just type j to reach the inputbox.

I don't have time right now to turn the idea into a patch or a plugin,
and I don't have required skill yet for that, but feedback would be
greatly appreciated.


On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Zheng Li
<lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
> Emmanuel Benisty wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Zheng Li
> <lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> 1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V
> does not work.  What
> can I do in this situation?
>
>
> ctrl-v ctrl-v
>
>
>
> 2) the new quickhint mode seems to make less sense for me as a Chinese user.
>
>
> as an english (keyboard) user, i can't understand your point, please
> explain.
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>
>
> Thanks your advice for my first question. My second question actually is
> that:
> The new quickhint mode combines two ways to search for a link: assign a
> number  to
> a link and compare the link names with the keyboard hints. It is fine and
> even faster
> than the old style when you are reading English web pages. However, in
> Chinese, Japanese
> or other language's webpages, the users must use input methods to input
> their own language
> characters which actually appear as titles and, thus, the second method
> becomes useless.
> Only being with the number key method slows down my hinting speed.
>
> Your,
> Zheng
> 2008-6-19
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>



-- 
Work hard at whatever you do! (Ecc. 9. 10a, CEV)
Mahefa

From benisty.e at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 01:08:39 2008
From: benisty.e at gmail.com (Emmanuel Benisty)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:08:39 +0700
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
In-Reply-To: <485A0932.7040402@gmail.com>
References: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
	<c1f41c620806182344k133bf561ma19ece258747c3b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<485A0932.7040402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c1f41c620806190108g1b6484e0m45cfc984cd1500ce@mail.gmail.com>

> 2) the new quickhint mode seems to make less sense for me as a Chinese user.
>
>
> as an english (keyboard) user, i can't understand your point, please
> explain.
>
> Thanks your advice for my first question. My second question actually is
> that:
> The new quickhint mode combines two ways to search for a link: assign a
> number  to
> a link and compare the link names with the keyboard hints. It is fine and
> even faster
> than the old style when you are reading English web pages. However, in
> Chinese, Japanese
> or other language's webpages, the users must use input methods to input
> their own language
> characters which actually appear as titles and, thus, the second method
> becomes useless.
> Only being with the number key method slows down my hinting speed.

ok, thanks for the explanation, sounds obvious now indeed. there's a
script for that here: http://vimperator.mozdev.org/scripts.html (old
hint behaviour) but 1. I do not know if it needs to be updated or not
2. I think you'll have to adapt it to Chinese.

HTH

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 19 04:38:19 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:38:19 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Proposition for another hint system (was: How I
 paste	text into vimperator)
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806190048v634e8508q58851c9cc8c19fef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806190048v634e8508q58851c9cc8c19fef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485A452B.2020802@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:
> 1) As for now, numbers are first assigned as hints for links, but you
> can type letters from the link names. And as you type letters, the
> number of links hinted diminishes.

No, it's meant to be a hybrid system, so if you have 10 "more..." links,
typing "mor" will show you 1-10 which you can use to select a link. If
after typing letters, the numbers would dissappear, how could you follow
one of the 10 more links?

> 2) At any time, when you hit the key * (star), the 0.5 version of hint
> system apply for the remaining hinted links. Ie: suppose there remains
> 30 links, first link is assigned hint a, second link b, ... 26th link
> z, 27th link aa, ... and when you type c, you will activate the third
> link. So, for chinese users, they would probably want to type f* to
> switch to the old system for all links on the page, then look at hints
> (which will be j, k, f, ...) and type probably one letter or two to
> activate a link, like the old system.

That sounds good, although i would limit it to 26 links so the remaining
char hints would only be a-z, which would make the system much easier.

> 3) A special combination: f followed by a space and followed by a
> star, will select only links that has no text associated with it, this
> will be to facilitate access to empty textarea and inputbox, checkbox,
> images with no alt text (actually, I think alt attribute for an image
> is not considered when a link contains an image with alt attribute).
> In other words, suppose you go to google.com, and want to reach the
> inputbox, you type f then a space then a star: The input box will be
> assigned the hint j instead of a number, the 3 radiobuttons will have
> hints f, g and h. Other links that have a text are not hinted. You
> just type j to reach the inputbox.

The ideas sounds ok, although i don't like the space* mapping, I'd
prefer #. 

All that said, I will not code that thing, but I am at least open for
a well written patch.

--
Martin

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 05:01:03 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:01:03 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] Proposition for another hint system (was: How I
	paste text into vimperator)
In-Reply-To: <485A452B.2020802@gmx.net>
References: <2ba1fac40806190048v634e8508q58851c9cc8c19fef@mail.gmail.com>
	<485A452B.2020802@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806190501k6de3f2cei8b35db07c2049b87@mail.gmail.com>

>> 3) A special combination: f followed by a space and followed by a
>> star, will select only links that has no text associated with it, this
>> will be to facilitate access to empty textarea and inputbox, checkbox,
>> images with no alt text (actually, I think alt attribute for an image
>> is not considered when a link contains an image with alt attribute).
>> In other words, suppose you go to google.com, and want to reach the
>> inputbox, you type f then a space then a star: The input box will be
>> assigned the hint j instead of a number, the 3 radiobuttons will have
>> hints f, g and h. Other links that have a text are not hinted. You
>> just type j to reach the inputbox.
>
> The ideas sounds ok, although i don't like the space* mapping, I'd
> prefer #.
>

On my keyboard, to type #, I combine AltGr+3, unlike the * which can
be reached simply by my right little finger.
For my keyboard, $ or ! would be faster, so, if anyone will realize
the patch (probably me), the special key should not be hardcoded.

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 19 05:09:00 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:09:00 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Proposition for another hint system (was: How I
 paste text into vimperator)
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806190501k6de3f2cei8b35db07c2049b87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806190048v634e8508q58851c9cc8c19fef@mail.gmail.com>	<485A452B.2020802@gmx.net>
	<2ba1fac40806190501k6de3f2cei8b35db07c2049b87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485A4C5C.7080200@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> On my keyboard, to type #, I combine AltGr+3, unlike the * which can
> be reached simply by my right little finger.
> For my keyboard, $ or ! would be faster, so, if anyone will realize
> the patch (probably me), the special key should not be hardcoded.

Well, just like \ can be changed with :let g:map_leader it should have
a similar option for that key.

--
Martin

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 07:45:05 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:45:05 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>
	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>
	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>
	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>

> Added <C-BS>, <A-BS>? Never used that in bash, and doesn't seem to work
> here.

Apparently, <C-S-Left> <C-S-Right> cannot be used to select words.

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 19 08:13:08 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:13:08 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
	<2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485A7784.40106@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

>> Added <C-BS>, <A-BS>? Never used that in bash, and doesn't seem to work
>> here.
> 
> Apparently, <C-S-Left> <C-S-Right> cannot be used to select words.

I think, I'll go with another approach anyway: Have a blacklist, rather than a whitelist.
Ok, so which firefox keys should be disabled in insert mode:

ctrl-f, ctrl-g, ctrl-o, ctrl-n. Others?

--
Martin

From Thomas.Svensen at fast.no  Fri Jun 20 02:24:28 2008
From: Thomas.Svensen at fast.no (Thomas Svensen)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:24:28 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <485A7784.40106@gmx.net>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no><2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>
	<485A7784.40106@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238EC1@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>

> 
> I think, I'll go with another approach anyway: Have a blacklist,
rather than a whitelist.
> Ok, so which firefox keys should be disabled in insert mode:
> 
> ctrl-f, ctrl-g, ctrl-o, ctrl-n. Others?
> 
> --
> Martin

Shouldn't this apply to command mode, also? Those control keys are very
useful when editing URLs.

Should ctrl-q be disabled also?
Could the list be made configurable?

Thank you for keeping up the great work - a new donation seems to be in
order :-)

Thomas 

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Fri Jun 20 05:04:31 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:04:31 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238EC1@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no><2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>	<485A7784.40106@gmx.net>
	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238EC1@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
Message-ID: <485B9CCF.40103@gmx.net>

Thomas Svensen wrote:
> Shouldn't this apply to command mode, also? Those control keys are very
> useful when editing URLs.

Yeah, should apply to command line mode of course. What do you mean with:

"Those control keys are very useful when editing URLs."

> Should ctrl-q be disabled also?

No, ctrl-q has a vimperator meaning. What this thread is about, that
without the hack ctrl-o opens the firefox file->open dialog when in
insert or command line mode, which is very annoying.

> Could the list be made configurable?

Well, sure, just do a :imap <C-o> <C-v><C-o> and you have the Firefox
meaning of <C-o> in insert mode.

> Thank you for keeping up the great work - a new donation seems to be in
> order :-)

Oh cool :) Thanks in advance!

--
Martin

From Thomas.Svensen at fast.no  Fri Jun 20 06:06:44 2008
From: Thomas.Svensen at fast.no (Thomas Svensen)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:06:44 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :imap <C-Left> <C-Left>
In-Reply-To: <485B9CCF.40103@gmx.net>
References: <2ba1fac40806100831y29a09deepb2a31e29a2ac6074@mail.gmail.com>	<484E9F72.1040305@gmx.net>	<2ba1fac40806100946x2cfd9c3dic03eb754a9c8ae9b@mail.gmail.com>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238B83@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>	<484FAE56.80304@gmx.net>	<DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D01B7A5@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no><2ba1fac40806190745q3076ec6fqbdffea01b979ead@mail.gmail.com>	<485A7784.40106@gmx.net><DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238EC1@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>
	<485B9CCF.40103@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238F0D@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>

> Thomas Svensen wrote:
> > Shouldn't this apply to command mode, also? Those control keys are
very
> > useful when editing URLs.
> 
> Yeah, should apply to command line mode of course. What do you mean
with:
> 
> "Those control keys are very useful when editing URLs."

Just that doing C-Left and C-Right is very useful with long URLs.

> > Could the list be made configurable?
> 
> Well, sure, just do a :imap <C-o> <C-v><C-o> and you have the Firefox
> meaning of <C-o> in insert mode.

Excellent idea, that solved most of my problems. But the
Ctrl+Shift+something
mappings do not seem to work:

imap <C-S-Left> <C-v><C-S-Left>

Is that a know limitation?

Thomas


From bheckel at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 08:17:21 2008
From: bheckel at yahoo.com (Bob Heckel)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:17:21 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
In-Reply-To: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
References: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <942b10df0806200817l10c4a9e7wa6fce8f339c454d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 00:51, Zheng Li <lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V
> does not work.  What
> can I do in this situation?

On Windows at least, I use CTRL + Insert to save a few keystrokes.

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 08:31:14 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:31:14 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] [Patch] Proposition for another hint system : f* and f!
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Well, just like \ can be changed with :let g:map_leader it should have
> a similar option for that key.
>

Here is a draft of the patch to achieve what I talked about.

I say it's a draft, but it realizes all the options I said in the previous mail.

It adds an option hintvoid (default=!) which you can type after f to
select only void elements.

This is the first time I'm sending a patch, I'm not sure the format is
correct. (Realized it with TortoiseSVN, the only tool I know and have
that can create the patch).

Can one please test it? To resume, this is how it works:

At any time after you type f, you can type * to switch to
alphabetic-driven hints, and after this, you type the letters shown in
the hint to select the link.

When you want to select void elements (links that have no text
associated like blank textareas, blank input, inputbox, ...), you type
! after the f. Only void elements will be hinted and hints are formed
with alphabetic characters only.

I'm not aware of some special coding guidelines and coding
styles/preferences, and I will really appreciate some helps from the
devs about how to do a proper patch.
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From k at bijna.net  Fri Jun 20 09:12:57 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:12:57 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] [Patch] Proposition for another hint system : f*
	and f!
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806200912q426394cbm65f4e82d43dd5c4b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:31 AM, mahefa randimbisoa
<mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, just like \ can be changed with :let g:map_leader it should have
>> a similar option for that key.
>>
>
> Here is a draft of the patch to achieve what I talked about.
>
> I say it's a draft, but it realizes all the options I said in the previous mail.
>
> It adds an option hintvoid (default=!) which you can type after f to
> select only void elements.
>
> This is the first time I'm sending a patch, I'm not sure the format is
> correct. (Realized it with TortoiseSVN, the only tool I know and have
> that can create the patch).

I got an offset of -5 lines on each change but I'm not running version
1.1 so maybe five lines have been added to the top of the file since
then.
I suppose that could also change the way this patch interacts with the
rest of vimperator but I think I got an evaluation of the intended
functionality.

>
> Can one please test it? To resume, this is how it works:

I've briefly tested it with gmail, google and slashdot. Haven't seen
it fail yet (note again, version 1.1, not latest).

>
> At any time after you type f, you can type * to switch to
> alphabetic-driven hints, and after this, you type the letters shown in
> the hint to select the link.

I don't quite like the alphabetical ordering of these hints although I
think some people will. perhaps the sequence should be customizable so
that, for example, a QWERTY-centric layout like the old alphabetical
hint system of something like jklfdsahguioprewqytmcxzvnb could be used
(or a dvorak-centric of...?). Just store an array or string, maybe a
few presets.

>
> When you want to select void elements (links that have no text
> associated like blank textareas, blank input, inputbox, ...), you type
> ! after the f. Only void elements will be hinted and hints are formed
> with alphabetic characters only.

I like this mode. One odd behavior is that typing some text to narrow
number of possible links and then pressing the void character will
switch to linking the void links. I don't know whether this would
ultimately be prefereable but perhaps there should be some way, at
least, to escape the void/alpha keys to add them to the link text
search instead of switching mode.
I was also surprised to find that text input areas get searched by
their contents and thus input boxes with...input in them wouldn't be
selected when switching to void mode. This is logical, actually,
probably nothing should be done about this.
Some related ideas for the link hint system: it might be nice to have
alternate modes similar to void--input, images, etc. Perhaps also a
way to hide/show numbered links, which obscure link text (maybe have
number, letter, and nothing as overlay options)...

>
> I'm not aware of some special coding guidelines and coding
> styles/preferences, and I will really appreciate some helps from the
> devs about how to do a proper patch.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>

From k at bijna.net  Fri Jun 20 09:14:54 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:14:54 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] [Patch] Proposition for another hint system : f*
	and f!
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806200912q426394cbm65f4e82d43dd5c4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806200912q426394cbm65f4e82d43dd5c4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806200914idd6cf6ah304cf66c932ed03b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:
> I got an offset of -5 lines on each change but I'm not running version
> 1.1 so maybe five lines have been added to the top of the file since
Oops, typo. I AM running 1.1, not the latest from CVS/SVN...

From bheckel at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 12:01:34 2008
From: bheckel at yahoo.com (Bob Heckel)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:01:34 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] How I paste text into vimperator?
In-Reply-To: <942b10df0806200817l10c4a9e7wa6fce8f339c454d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4859E5DD.9030304@gmail.com>
	<942b10df0806200817l10c4a9e7wa6fce8f339c454d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <942b10df0806201201g4a5588afpcd8de34c03839f7a@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:17, Bob Heckel <bheckel at yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 00:51, Zheng Li <lizhengs.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 1) When I type t and want to paste some URL to :tabopen prompt,  CTRL-V
>> does not work.  What
>> can I do in this situation?
>
> On Windows at least, I use CTRL + Insert to save a few keystrokes.

sorry!  I meant Shift + Insert

my apologies

From nickp at developernotes.com  Sat Jun 21 12:39:25 2008
From: nickp at developernotes.com (Nick Parker)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:39:25 -0500
Subject: [Vimperator] Force Override Vimperator Options
Message-ID: <cf06edfd0806211239y34e2596rb14175849ceaa2ae@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have tried to change vimperator such that it will not open the previous
URL when a new firefox session is opened but I am running into issues.
Previously, Martin had suggested that I could add a :o
http://www.google.comin my .vimperatorrc file, however that causes
issue when a user in using the
mouse to navigate to open a URL in a new window (It always opens google.com,
instead of the URL they clicked on to open in a new window).  Is there a way
to augment vimperator (possibly a .js file in the jar) so that the Options >
When Firefox Starts, can always be set to "Show my homepage" instead of
vimperator resetting it to "Show my windows and tabs from last time"?
Thanks again.

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 21 18:41:19 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:41:19 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Force Override Vimperator Options
In-Reply-To: <cf06edfd0806211239y34e2596rb14175849ceaa2ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf06edfd0806211239y34e2596rb14175849ceaa2ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485DADBF.40102@gmx.net>

Nick Parker wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have tried to change vimperator such that it will not open the
> previous URL when a new firefox session is opened but I am running into
> issues.  Previously, Martin had suggested that I could add a :o
> http://www.google.com in my .vimperatorrc file, however that causes
> issue when a user in using the mouse to navigate to open a URL in a new
> window (It always opens google.com <http://google.com>, instead of the
> URL they clicked on to open in a new window).  Is there a way to augment
> vimperator (possibly a .js file in the jar) so that the Options > When
> Firefox Starts, can always be set to "Show my homepage" instead of
> vimperator resetting it to "Show my windows and tabs from last time"? 
> Thanks again.

Not possible for now I think, but that option was already suggested.
If somebody provides a patch to add a new option for this, I'd be happy
to apply it.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 21 19:03:49 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:03:49 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] [Patch] Proposition for another hint system : f*
 and f!
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ba1fac40806200831q7954f500v6d9e2c7acf26c9ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485DB305.6040009@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> It adds an option hintvoid (default=!) which you can type after f to
> select only void elements.

I don't like that to be an option, rather use a variable :let g:hintcharkey
and :let g:hintformskey. Actually I think , and . would be better keys than
* and !, as the former should be on a non-shifted key on most layouts.

> This is the first time I'm sending a patch, I'm not sure the format is
> correct. (Realized it with TortoiseSVN, the only tool I know and have
> that can create the patch).


The format seems correct to me.

 
> Can one please test it? To resume, this is how it works:
> 
> At any time after you type f, you can type * to switch to
> alphabetic-driven hints, and after this, you type the letters shown in
> the hint to select the link.

That does not work at all on all sites which I have tested. It just beeps
when I type *, and shows "*" in the statusline.

> When you want to select void elements (links that have no text
> associated like blank textareas, blank input, inputbox, ...), you type
> ! after the f. Only void elements will be hinted and hints are formed
> with alphabetic characters only.


That works well.

 
> I'm not aware of some special coding guidelines and coding
> styles/preferences, and I will really appreciate some helps from the
> devs about how to do a proper patch.

All in all, it seems quite good, although i have not yet looked through it
in detail.

Some notes:

1.) Lines like that (i saw at least 2 occurrences) should be documented above, if possible.
Why 324, why 649, etc. or at least what it does.

+                    span.textContent = "" + (hn+9+10*parseInt((hn-1)/26)+324*parseInt((hn+649)/676)).toString(36);

2.) Missing asciidoc documentation about the new features.
3.) Add yourself to the AUTHORS file and put a small note about the new feature in the NEWS file.
4.) I don't like the usedVoid etc. names too much, why not just usedFormsKey, or something similar?
5.)
+                if (!usedStar)
+                    span.textContent = "" + (hintnum++);
+                else
It's better if (usedStar) ... else ...


Note that these are just quick observations, as i could not test the "*" behavior. When I get a patch
which works with that, I may find additional things, which do not work.

But for a first draft, the patch looks fine for me.

best regards,
--
Martin

From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Sun Jun 22 02:31:41 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:31:41 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Added 'Bookmark Manager' to dialog command
Message-ID: <20080622093141.GA5669@desktop>


Hi all,

see the patch.


Greetings,
Daniel
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sun Jun 22 03:07:57 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:07:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Added 'Bookmark Manager' to dialog command
In-Reply-To: <20080622093141.GA5669@desktop>
References: <20080622093141.GA5669@desktop>
Message-ID: <485E247D.2090502@gmx.net>

Daniel Trstenjak wrote:

> +        ["bookmarkmanager",  "Bookmark Manager",
> +            function () { openDialog("chrome://browser/content/places/places.xul", "Bookmark Manager", "dialog"); }],

Thanks for the patch, but what is the difference to :dialog places? Or am I missing something.

From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Sun Jun 22 03:14:50 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:14:50 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Added 'Bookmark Manager' to dialog command
In-Reply-To: <485E247D.2090502@gmx.net>
References: <20080622093141.GA5669@desktop> <485E247D.2090502@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080622101450.GB5669@desktop>


On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:07:57PM +0200, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Thanks for the patch, but what is the difference to :dialog places? Or am I missing something.

Ehm, there's absolut no difference ... :o


Greetings,
Daniel

From jorlon at 163.com  Sun Jun 22 12:36:52 2008
From: jorlon at 163.com (jorlon)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:36:52 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] about vimperatorrc
References: <200806230330552180358@163.com>
Message-ID: <200806230336518755776@163.com>


I use portable firefox3 too. So, it's very inconvenient to copy
 the file of "vimperatorrc" and the DIR of "vimperator" to someone's 
$HOME direcotry every time when I used others PC. 
Now I do this dirtly method by expediency--make a BAT file for windows:
----------------------------------------------------------
@set VIMPERATOR_HOME=%CD%
start .\FirefoxPortable.exe
----------------------------------------------------------

SUGGESTION:

Learn from aMSN program's method:

In order to get aMSN as a portable application, in other words, installing it on a usb key for example and your profiles/configuration stays in the usb key, all you have to do is modify a few lines in the 'amsn' file of the installation of aMSN. Open the file 'amsn' with your favorite text editor (emacs, vi, notepad, etc...) and search for the lines that look like this

------------------------------------------------------------------------
 if { [OnDarwin] } {
    set HOME "[file join $env(HOME) Library/Application\ Support/amsn]"
 } elseif { [OnUnix] } {
    set HOME "[file join $env(HOME) .amsn]"
 } elseif { [OnWin] } {
   if {[info exists env(USERPROFILE)]} {
      set HOME "[file join $env(USERPROFILE) amsn]"
   } else {
    set HOME "[file join [pwd] amsn_config]"
   }
 } else {
    set HOME "[file join [pwd] amsn_config]"
 }
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

And replace all those lines by :

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
set HOME "[file join [pwd] amsn_config]"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can find the file 'amsn' in your installation directory of aMSN (under the 'script/' directory for Windows users).




2008-06-23 



jorlon 
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From Thomas.Svensen at fast.no  Mon Jun 23 00:45:46 2008
From: Thomas.Svensen at fast.no (Thomas Svensen)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:45:46 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Added 'Bookmark Manager' to dialog command
In-Reply-To: <20080622101450.GB5669@desktop>
References: <20080622093141.GA5669@desktop> <485E247D.2090502@gmx.net>
	<20080622101450.GB5669@desktop>
Message-ID: <DF144176E330724DBC53021957EB051D238F5B@OSLEX01.ad.fast.no>

> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:07:57PM +0200, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> > Thanks for the patch, but what is the difference to :dialog places?
Or am I missing 
> something.
> 
> Ehm, there's absolut no difference ... :o

At least your effort resulted in me (and probably others) being aware of
the existence
of "dialog places". But there is a small problem with the latter, it
comes up with focus
in the search box and no kind of tabbing or similar will bring me to the
left-side tree
structure; I have to click with the mouse. On the contrary, typing
<C-v><C-S-b>,
which I normally do, automatically gives focus to the "All bookmarks"
entry, which
allows me to get to all bookmarks quickly with letters, arrow keys and
Enter.

Not a big deal, but since we are so spoiled with Vimperator making the
mouse
superfluous, I thought I would asked if 1) others see the same behavior,
2) anyone
know why it differs and of course 3) if there is a simple fix.

Thank you

Thomas


From casey.manion at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 03:00:52 2008
From: casey.manion at gmail.com (Casey Manion)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:00:52 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
Message-ID: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to go to PASS-THROUGH mode instead of INSERT or TEXT
AREA mode? The double C-v is ok but the C-v C-c is way too confusing.
So you'd hit Esc to go to INSERT mode insead of C-q to go to
PASS-THROUGH mode?


Plus I have this issue:
Whenever I click into the URL (toolbar) the INSERT mode unsets and the
toolbar loses focus? So I click, lose focus, repeat :|


:version
Vimperator 1.2pre (created: 2008/06/21 07:30:05)
running on:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9)
Gecko/2008052906 Firefox/3.0

From yijun.gu at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 21:00:04 2008
From: yijun.gu at gmail.com (Gu Yijun)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:00:04 +0800
Subject: [Vimperator] miss ctrl+l to open url address feature
Message-ID: <20080623115002.9627.9DF3FBC@gmail.com>

Hi!

I am one of those not-so-vim person who prefer ctrl+l to open a url bar
instead of using o+something+<tab> to looking for correct url. I also
feel that after I enter o+something+<tab> it will stall for ten seconds
before suggestions appear. However, the ctrl+l is no longer with 1.1
release. Is there any way to re-enabling it?

Thanks



From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 23 03:08:01 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:08:01 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485F7601.90707@gmx.net>

Casey Manion wrote:

> Is there a way to go to PASS-THROUGH mode instead of INSERT or TEXT
> AREA mode? The double C-v is ok but the C-v C-c is way too confusing.
> So you'd hit Esc to go to INSERT mode insead of C-q to go to
> PASS-THROUGH mode?

The "correct" vimperator way would be to just put :imap <C-v> <C-v><C-v>
etc. in your ~/.vimperatorrc.

> Plus I have this issue:
> Whenever I click into the URL (toolbar) the INSERT mode unsets and the
> toolbar loses focus? So I click, lose focus, repeat :|

Does not happen here, unless you have the command line (:) open, where that
is expected behavior. If you were in NORMAL mode, this is not expected. Maybe
a problem specific to Windows?

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 23 03:10:40 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:10:40 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] miss ctrl+l to open url address feature
In-Reply-To: <20080623115002.9627.9DF3FBC@gmail.com>
References: <20080623115002.9627.9DF3FBC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485F76A0.80500@gmx.net>

Gu Yijun wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I am one of those not-so-vim person who prefer ctrl+l to open a url bar
> instead of using o+something+<tab> to looking for correct url. I also
> feel that after I enter o+something+<tab> it will stall for ten seconds
> before suggestions appear. However, the ctrl+l is no longer with 1.1
> release. Is there any way to re-enabling it?


Put

:map <C-l> <C-v><C-l> 

in your ~/.vimperatorrc.

Although I agree, the new ctrl-l binding for redrawing the screen is quite
useless, i might change my mind about this new binding.

--
Martin

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 03:23:35 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:23:35 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806230323w57e4401fg3f88b69b0fd23250@mail.gmail.com>

>> Plus I have this issue:
>> Whenever I click into the URL (toolbar) the INSERT mode unsets and the
>> toolbar loses focus? So I click, lose focus, repeat :|
>
> Does not happen here, unless you have the command line (:) open, where that
> is expected behavior. If you were in NORMAL mode, this is not expected. Maybe
> a problem specific to Windows?
>

I'm in normal mode and I can't type on the Firefox's built-in toolbar.
I'm on Windows.
Fortunately for me, I don't use the toobar, ie se guioptions=

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 23 03:38:19 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:38:19 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <2ba1fac40806230323w57e4401fg3f88b69b0fd23250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
	<2ba1fac40806230323w57e4401fg3f88b69b0fd23250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485F7D1B.3050902@gmx.net>

mahefa randimbisoa wrote:

> I'm in normal mode and I can't type on the Firefox's built-in toolbar.
> I'm on Windows.
> Fortunately for me, I don't use the toobar, ie se guioptions=

If you were really fortunate, you would use a UNIX OS :)

Does it show -- INSERT -- after you click the toolbar?

--
Martin

From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 03:45:32 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:45:32 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <485F7D1B.3050902@gmx.net>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
	<2ba1fac40806230323w57e4401fg3f88b69b0fd23250@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7D1B.3050902@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <2ba1fac40806230345r50f16d3erc3f0b52bcdad2ea9@mail.gmail.com>

>> Fortunately for me, I don't use the toobar, ie se guioptions=
>
> If you were really fortunate, you would use a UNIX OS :)
>

Sure, confidence to confidence: I still have to use IE on some sites
with web application built with ActiveX.

> Does it show -- INSERT -- after you click the toolbar?
>

When I click on the toolbar, and as long as I don't release the mouse,
--INSERT-- shows in the status bar.
When I release the mouse button, the statusbar is cleared and I don't
know where has gone the focus, but Typing d would close the tab.

If I select any letter/word from the toolbar, I can then use <Left> or
<Right> and the toolbar retains the focus, with --INSERT-- in the
status bar.

From casey.manion at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 09:22:42 2008
From: casey.manion at gmail.com (Casey Manion)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:22:42 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>

I did
:imap <C-c> <C-v><C-c>  which seems to work

but
:imap <C-v> <C-v><C-v>  needs to be inoremap ! crash :)_

I have similar issues to the other thread: INPUT escaping in the
toolbar. I would love to remember to type o or t but I cannot stop my
self clicking in the toolbar to change the current url or url
parameters ...

Thanks,
Casey



On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Casey Manion wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to go to PASS-THROUGH mode instead of INSERT or TEXT
>> AREA mode? The double C-v is ok but the C-v C-c is way too confusing.
>> So you'd hit Esc to go to INSERT mode insead of C-q to go to
>> PASS-THROUGH mode?
>
> The "correct" vimperator way would be to just put :imap <C-v> <C-v><C-v>
> etc. in your ~/.vimperatorrc.
>
>> Plus I have this issue:
>> Whenever I click into the URL (toolbar) the INSERT mode unsets and the
>> toolbar loses focus? So I click, lose focus, repeat :|
>
> Does not happen here, unless you have the command line (:) open, where that
> is expected behavior. If you were in NORMAL mode, this is not expected. Maybe
> a problem specific to Windows?
>
> --
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>
>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 23 11:40:33 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:40:33 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
	<66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485FEE21.9060102@gmx.net>

Casey Manion wrote:


> I have similar issues to the other thread: INPUT escaping in the
> toolbar. 


Also on windows?
I fear, i need some windows user to fix that issue then, seems to work on
Linux.

Does it work on mac?

--
Martin

From penryu at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 14:06:07 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:06:07 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <485FEE21.9060102@gmx.net>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
	<66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<485FEE21.9060102@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080623210607.GA10530@kame>

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Casey Manion wrote:
> > I have similar issues to the other thread: INPUT escaping in the
> > toolbar. 
> 
> Also on windows?
> I fear, i need some windows user to fix that issue then, seems to
> work on Linux.
> 
> Does it work on mac?

Had to re-enable my navbar to test, but yes, I'm seeing this in
FF/Cocoa as well:

  * single-click anywhere in URL box, focus flickers and then
    disappears.
  * double-click in the box with no URL displayed, same effect.
  * double-click with a URL displayed (causing some portion of the
    text to become selected), the focus is retained even after the
    selection is canceled.

This is not an issue for me, as I've trained myself to ':set go=' and
use o/O/t/T.

Tim

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 23 15:31:23 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:31:23 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <20080623210607.GA10530@kame>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>	<66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>	<485FEE21.9060102@gmx.net>
	<20080623210607.GA10530@kame>
Message-ID: <4860243B.1070209@gmx.net>

Tim Hammerquist wrote:

> Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
>> Casey Manion wrote:
>> > I have similar issues to the other thread: INPUT escaping in the
>> > toolbar. 
>> 
>> Also on windows?
>> I fear, i need some windows user to fix that issue then, seems to
>> work on Linux.
>> 
>> Does it work on mac?
> 
> Had to re-enable my navbar to test, but yes, I'm seeing this in
> FF/Cocoa as well:
> 
>   * single-click anywhere in URL box, focus flickers and then
>     disappears.
>   * double-click in the box with no URL displayed, same effect.
>   * double-click with a URL displayed (causing some portion of the
>     text to become selected), the focus is retained even after the
>     selection is canceled.
> 
> This is not an issue for me, as I've trained myself to ':set go=' and
> use o/O/t/T.

Thanks for the info, with that i found out that setting:

:set! browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll=true

results in the same behavior for me. It just is the difference that this setting
is false on linux, and true on all other OSes.

As a temporary fix, you could set this to false. I wonder, if vimperator shouldn't
actually override this setting, but I'd rather have a real fix for this issue
from people who are motivated to fix it.

--
Martin

From casey.manion at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 19:24:08 2008
From: casey.manion at gmail.com (Casey Manion)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:24:08 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] INPUT / TEXT AREA
In-Reply-To: <4860243B.1070209@gmx.net>
References: <66dd0ce40806230300j6f93a11cg3afee5f495c7dc5@mail.gmail.com>
	<485F7601.90707@gmx.net>
	<66dd0ce40806230922x49d280e6xed0f4be67b73a4a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<485FEE21.9060102@gmx.net> <20080623210607.GA10530@kame>
	<4860243B.1070209@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <66dd0ce40806231924w7e726f2ched3de913899e5d5@mail.gmail.com>

Martin! you ARE a genius!  Thank you!


On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
>
> Tim Hammerquist wrote:
>
>> Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
>>> Casey Manion wrote:
>>> > I have similar issues to the other thread: INPUT escaping in the
>>> > toolbar.
>>>
>>> Also on windows?
>>> I fear, i need some windows user to fix that issue then, seems to
>>> work on Linux.
>>>
>>> Does it work on mac?
>>
>> Had to re-enable my navbar to test, but yes, I'm seeing this in
>> FF/Cocoa as well:
>>
>>   * single-click anywhere in URL box, focus flickers and then
>>     disappears.
>>   * double-click in the box with no URL displayed, same effect.
>>   * double-click with a URL displayed (causing some portion of the
>>     text to become selected), the focus is retained even after the
>>     selection is canceled.
>>
>> This is not an issue for me, as I've trained myself to ':set go=' and
>> use o/O/t/T.
>
> Thanks for the info, with that i found out that setting:
>
> :set! browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll=true
>
> results in the same behavior for me. It just is the difference that this setting
> is false on linux, and true on all other OSes.
>
> As a temporary fix, you could set this to false. I wonder, if vimperator shouldn't
> actually override this setting, but I'd rather have a real fix for this issue
> from people who are motivated to fix it.
>
> --
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
>
>

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Tue Jun 24 06:34:32 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:34:32 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806170911q1383e3aej277223437620eff2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>	<53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>	<4857D9EB.6010203@tedpavlic.com>
	<53f7fc100806170911q1383e3aej277223437620eff2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4860F7E8.50103@tedpavlic.com>

>> Ok. The function that you use now --- was that added by del.icio.us? If
>> so, is that going to break Vimperator if I disable del.icio.us? (or if
>> del.icio.us gets disabled automatically after an FF update)
> 
> That function is part of Firefox but it's overloaded by the
> del.icio.us addon. del.icio.us added the function being used by the
> patch if the del.icio.us addon is installed but it has the same name
> as an existing function which will be used without the addon. If you
> remove the del.icio.us addon, behavior will be basically the same as
> without the patch.

In the meanwhile, doesn't it make sense to patch the Vimperator distro 
even without the del.icio.us plugin described in this thread? That is, 
isn't this patch an improvement over Vimperator's normal handling? 
Shouldn't that patched be made to the official Vimperator release?

--Ted


-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 07:22:43 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:22:43 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>	<484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48610333.5090504@gmx.net>

Kipling Inscore wrote:

>> However, I think, it would be much better to replace the parts of getSearchURL()
>> and keep stringToURLArray quite unmodified.
> 
> An easy enough change if I redo the patch. Pending recommendation I'll
> work on the plugin but could do another patch or both.

If you are still interested, I think an updated patch would be better.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 07:25:03 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:25:03 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] del.icio.us plugin and shortcuts
In-Reply-To: <4860F7E8.50103@tedpavlic.com>
References: <4857CAB6.7030104@tedpavlic.com>	<53f7fc100806170812hd4b37e8h1b0121ed58e4ec3b@mail.gmail.com>	<4857D9EB.6010203@tedpavlic.com>	<53f7fc100806170911q1383e3aej277223437620eff2@mail.gmail.com>
	<4860F7E8.50103@tedpavlic.com>
Message-ID: <486103BF.3030709@gmx.net>

Ted Pavlic wrote:

> In the meanwhile, doesn't it make sense to patch the Vimperator distro 
> even without the del.icio.us plugin described in this thread? That is, 
> isn't this patch an improvement over Vimperator's normal handling? 
> Shouldn't that patched be made to the official Vimperator release?

The patch needs some updating, if Kipling (or somebody else) updates
it so it uses getSearchUrl() rather than stringToUrlArray() I'll apply it
(after some testing).

--
Martin

From k at bijna.net  Tue Jun 24 09:04:40 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:04:40 +0000
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <48610333.5090504@gmx.net>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>
	<48610333.5090504@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806240904hf402a40ud5593d49e7f27854@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Martin Stubenschrott
<stubenschrott at gmx.net> wrote:
> Kipling Inscore wrote:
>
>>> However, I think, it would be much better to replace the parts of getSearchURL()
>>> and keep stringToURLArray quite unmodified.
>>
>> An easy enough change if I redo the patch. Pending recommendation I'll
>> work on the plugin but could do another patch or both.
>
> If you are still interested, I think an updated patch would be better.

I am still interested; I've just been distracted by other projects
lately. I actually still haven't started on the plugin.
An updated patch would probably be the quicker way to get my primary
concern with del.icio.us addressed but a plugin may still be on its
way to add other integration that I and others might find useful once
implemented.
I think I should look into the other ways vimperator uses search
aliases and bookmarks and the way getShortcutOrURI() and related
functions behave to see how best to integrate things (e.g. del.icio.us
auto-complete, if possible).

Thanks for the advice so far.

From nickp at developernotes.com  Tue Jun 24 10:01:12 2008
From: nickp at developernotes.com (Nick Parker)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:01:12 -0500
Subject: [Vimperator] Mapping for New Window
Message-ID: <cf06edfd0806241001k6f85764cgcca4c667ecc9ac4a@mail.gmail.com>

It appears that the Ctrl + n mapping within Firefox is removed with
vimperator.  I added :map <C-n> winopen, however that does not work.  Any
suggestions?  I want to do the same thing for new tabs as well.

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com
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From k at bijna.net  Tue Jun 24 10:41:04 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:41:04 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Mapping for New Window
In-Reply-To: <cf06edfd0806241001k6f85764cgcca4c667ecc9ac4a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf06edfd0806241001k6f85764cgcca4c667ecc9ac4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806241041h6286a936uab4e9ba081e6baaf@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Nick Parker <nickp at developernotes.com> wrote:
> It appears that the Ctrl + n mapping within Firefox is removed with
> vimperator.  I added :map <C-n> winopen, however that does not work.  Any
> suggestions?  I want to do the same thing for new tabs as well.

:map <C-n> :winopen<Enter>

for new blank tab you can use either t<Enter> or (probably slightly
more reliable) :tabopen<Enter>

From azure at speakeasy.net  Tue Jun 24 10:49:19 2008
From: azure at speakeasy.net (Adam C. Emerson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:49:19 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences alone?
Message-ID: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>

Good evening, gentle creatures,

I just started using Vimperator and with a couple exceptions I am mostly
quite fond of it.  The exception I hope will be easiest to fix is this:

I do not like having my windows and tabs from last time when I start
firefox.  if I start firefox up with no arguments, I want my homepage.
If I start it up with an argument, I want that page.  I had set firefox
to this behaviour before installing Vimperator, and when installing
Vimperator, it changed it.

So I changed it back to the way I wanted it.

Vimperator seems to insist on changing it back to the way it wants it.

This does not please me.  How do I get it to stop that?

-- 
Adam C. Emerson                                    <azure at speakeasy.net>
JID: azure at azureprime.com                         http://azureprime.com/
GPG: 1024D/59F7168E 561A   5D34 96A0 04FD D293  28C0 0604 A4E3 59F7 168E
"It is the absence of dreams that makes men no good." --The Outer Limits

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 11:01:28 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:01:28 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences
 alone?
In-Reply-To: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
Message-ID: <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>

Adam C. Emerson wrote:

> Good evening, gentle creatures,
> 
> I just started using Vimperator and with a couple exceptions I am mostly
> quite fond of it.  The exception I hope will be easiest to fix is this:
> 
> I do not like having my windows and tabs from last time when I start
> firefox.  if I start firefox up with no arguments, I want my homepage.
> If I start it up with an argument, I want that page.  I had set firefox
> to this behaviour before installing Vimperator, and when installing
> Vimperator, it changed it.
> 
> So I changed it back to the way I wanted it.
> 
> Vimperator seems to insist on changing it back to the way it wants it.
> 
> This does not please me.  How do I get it to stop that?

That has been requested often, and an option for that would be nice, but nobody
interested in it has coded it yet.

Temporarily, you might have luck, if you put the 2 corresponding about:config options:

:set! browser.open...=...

etc. in your ~/.vimperatorrc, or in an :autocmd Quit, but i have not tested that.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 11:07:25 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:07:25 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences
 alone?
In-Reply-To: <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com> <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <486137DD.6040604@gmx.net>

You also know that ZQ doesn't save the session and ZZ does?
If you quit with these commands, everything is fine.

From azure at speakeasy.net  Tue Jun 24 11:10:52 2008
From: azure at speakeasy.net (Adam C. Emerson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:10:52 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my
	preferences	alone?
In-Reply-To: <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com> <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080624181052.GA2126@azureprime.com>

> That has been requested often, and an option for that would be nice, but nobody
> interested in it has coded it yet.

It seems like coding it wouldn't be very hard.  As I understand it, it
should be possible to get the behaviour I want by removing:

storePreference("browser.startup.page", 3);

from the options.js file.

That way anyone who wanted the current behaviour could have it and
anyone who didn't, wouldn't.

> Temporarily, you might have luck, if you put the 2 corresponding about:config options:
> 
> :set! browser.open...=...
> 
> etc. in your ~/.vimperatorrc, or in an :autocmd Quit, but i have not tested that.

I shall do that for now.  Thank you.

-- 
Adam C. Emerson                                    <azure at speakeasy.net>
JID: azure at azureprime.com                         http://azureprime.com/
GPG: 1024D/59F7168E 561A   5D34 96A0 04FD D293  28C0 0604 A4E3 59F7 168E
"It is the absence of dreams that makes men no good." --The Outer Limits

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 11:22:43 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:22:43 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my	preferences
 alone?
In-Reply-To: <20080624181052.GA2126@azureprime.com>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com> <48613678.7030308@gmx.net>
	<20080624181052.GA2126@azureprime.com>
Message-ID: <48613B73.7010006@gmx.net>

Adam C. Emerson wrote:

>> That has been requested often, and an option for that would be nice, but nobody
>> interested in it has coded it yet.
> 
> It seems like coding it wouldn't be very hard.  As I understand it, it
> should be possible to get the behaviour I want by removing:
> 
> storePreference("browser.startup.page", 3);
> 
> from the options.js file.
> 
> That way anyone who wanted the current behaviour could have it and
> anyone who didn't, wouldn't.

Well, I don't override many firefox options, UNLESS i think some setting is
clearly the better one. Of course not everybody may agree with my preferences,
that's why i prospose somebody should write a :set [no]savesession option which
controls this behavior when you quit vimperator with the window manager keys.

--
Martin

PS: I think of vimperator rather than a own browser with its own defaults, instead
of just a firefox extension.


From ione at citromail.hu  Tue Jun 24 12:55:15 2008
From: ione at citromail.hu (ione at citromail.hu)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:55:15 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator]  FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
Message-ID: <20080624195515.GA26989@kitty>

In my xorg.conf, when CapsLock as Ctrl passed through, the relevant options were :
Section "InputDevice"
	...
	Option "XkbLayout" "hu,us"
	Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps,grp:shifts_toggle"
	...
EndSection

Since I changed it to the following, it works as it should:
Section "InputDevice"
        ...
        Option "XkbLayout" "hu"
        Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
        ...
EndSection


From violazoli at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 13:03:57 2008
From: violazoli at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Viola_Zolt=E1n?=)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:03:57 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
In-Reply-To: <20080624195515.GA26989@kitty>
References: <20080624195515.GA26989@kitty>
Message-ID: <b42a97b40806241303i75bbaa1ame46368072072f282@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, you are another hungarian vimperator-user?! Szia, ?n is magyar vagyok...

Zoli

2008/6/24 <ione at citromail.hu>:

> In my xorg.conf, when CapsLock as Ctrl passed through, the relevant options
> were :
> Section "InputDevice"
>        ...
>        Option "XkbLayout" "hu,us"
>        Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps,grp:shifts_toggle"
>        ...
> EndSection
>
> Since I changed it to the following, it works as it should:
> Section "InputDevice"
>        ...
>        Option "XkbLayout" "hu"
>        Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps"
>        ...
> EndSection
>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>



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From ione at citromail.hu  Tue Jun 24 13:27:16 2008
From: ione at citromail.hu (ione at citromail.hu)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:27:16 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] FF3_rc1+3rd_Control_Key(caps_lock)_problem
In-Reply-To: <b42a97b40806241303i75bbaa1ame46368072072f282@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080624195515.GA26989@kitty>
	<b42a97b40806241303i75bbaa1ame46368072072f282@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080624202716.GA31008@kitty>

On 22:03 Tue 24 Jun     , Viola Zolt?n wrote:
>    Hi, you are another hungarian vimperator-user?! Szia, ?n is magyar
>    vagyok...
>    Zoli
> 
Yes. ?dv, ione

From nickp at developernotes.com  Tue Jun 24 13:54:54 2008
From: nickp at developernotes.com (Nick Parker)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:54:54 -0500
Subject: [Vimperator] Mapping for New Window
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806241041h6286a936uab4e9ba081e6baaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf06edfd0806241001k6f85764cgcca4c667ecc9ac4a@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806241041h6286a936uab4e9ba081e6baaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf06edfd0806241354k544738c0s1439b882cc0c94cf@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Kipling, that was it.

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Nick Parker <nickp at developernotes.com>
> wrote:
> > It appears that the Ctrl + n mapping within Firefox is removed with
> > vimperator.  I added :map <C-n> winopen, however that does not work.  Any
> > suggestions?  I want to do the same thing for new tabs as well.
>
> :map <C-n> :winopen<Enter>
>
> for new blank tab you can use either t<Enter> or (probably slightly
> more reliable) :tabopen<Enter>
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
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From nickp at developernotes.com  Tue Jun 24 14:02:30 2008
From: nickp at developernotes.com (Nick Parker)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:02:30 -0500
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences
	alone?
In-Reply-To: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
Message-ID: <cf06edfd0806241402j7ad1a100we801742b64906983@mail.gmail.com>

Adam,

I ran into the same issues and just fixed it by overriding the settings in
my _vimpertatorrc file.  I have listed the items below for you, HTH:

"Turn the menu and toolbar on.
:set guioptions+=mT

"Turn off the show tabs by default.
:set showtabline=1

"Turn session tracking off.
:set! browser.startup.page=1

"Allow user to click in address bar.
:set! browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll=true

"Map Ctrl + n for new windows
:map <C-n> :winopen<Enter>

"Map Ctrl + t for new tabs
:map <C-t> :tabopen<Enter>

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Adam C. Emerson <azure at speakeasy.net>
wrote:

> Good evening, gentle creatures,
>
> I just started using Vimperator and with a couple exceptions I am mostly
> quite fond of it.  The exception I hope will be easiest to fix is this:
>
> I do not like having my windows and tabs from last time when I start
> firefox.  if I start firefox up with no arguments, I want my homepage.
> If I start it up with an argument, I want that page.  I had set firefox
> to this behaviour before installing Vimperator, and when installing
> Vimperator, it changed it.
>
> So I changed it back to the way I wanted it.
>
> Vimperator seems to insist on changing it back to the way it wants it.
>
> This does not please me.  How do I get it to stop that?
>
> --
> Adam C. Emerson                                    <azure at speakeasy.net>
> JID: azure at azureprime.com                         http://azureprime.com/
> GPG: 1024D/59F7168E 561A   5D34 96A0 04FD D293  28C0 0604 A4E3 59F7 168E
> "It is the absence of dreams that makes men no good." --The Outer Limits
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
>
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Tue Jun 24 14:14:04 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:14:04 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences
 alone?
In-Reply-To: <cf06edfd0806241402j7ad1a100we801742b64906983@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
	<cf06edfd0806241402j7ad1a100we801742b64906983@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4861639C.9070802@gmx.net>

Nick Parker wrote:

> "Map Ctrl + n for new windows
> :map <C-n> :winopen<Enter>

:map <C-n> <C-v><C-n>

should be even better, because then you don't see that
command in the command line.

--
Martin

From nickp at developernotes.com  Tue Jun 24 14:46:28 2008
From: nickp at developernotes.com (Nick Parker)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Vimperator] How do I get vimperator to leave my preferences
	alone?
In-Reply-To: <4861639C.9070802@gmx.net>
References: <20080624174919.GA19502@azureprime.com>
	<cf06edfd0806241402j7ad1a100we801742b64906983@mail.gmail.com>
	<4861639C.9070802@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <cf06edfd0806241446m34dda9c6v31f0e9843a15dc81@mail.gmail.com>

Fantastic, thanks Martin.

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Martin Stubenschrott <stubenschrott at gmx.net>
wrote:

> Nick Parker wrote:
>
> > "Map Ctrl + n for new windows
> > :map <C-n> :winopen<Enter>
>
> :map <C-n> <C-v><C-n>
>
> should be even better, because then you don't see that
> command in the command line.
>
> --
> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
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From reddweb at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 03:13:57 2008
From: reddweb at gmail.com (red dweb)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:13:57 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Tab completion for URLs and bookmarks
Message-ID: <df4b09320806250313g604b47f3neae30490ea24396b@mail.gmail.com>

I read through the help-manual and couldn't find easy solution for this.
When trying to open a new URL using o or t and use <tab> for completion it
lists all previous history (which may be many), and if the first one is
long-address i have to <backspace> all the way back or if i use <shift-tab>
or <tab> it would cycle thru - but its a long list.
Is there a way to make tab-completion more flexible?  Another question, to
open bookmarks what is the shortcut. I noticed "go" is for quickmarks, but
didn't see any for normal bookmarks? Or even for search-plugins (mycroft) -
Is it same as opening regular URLs ? (o and t ???)

Thanks for the great tool. Best firefox-addon ever !!!
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun 25 05:07:18 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:07:18 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Tab completion for URLs and bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <df4b09320806250313g604b47f3neae30490ea24396b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <df4b09320806250313g604b47f3neae30490ea24396b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <486234F6.7090304@gmx.net>

red dweb wrote:

> I read through the help-manual and couldn't find easy solution for this.
> When trying to open a new URL using o or t and use <tab> for completion
> it lists all previous history (which may be many), and if the first one
> is long-address i have to <backspace> all the way back or if i use
> <shift-tab> or <tab> it would cycle thru - but its a long list.
> Is there a way to make tab-completion more flexible?  Another question,
> to open bookmarks what is the shortcut. I noticed "go" is for
> quickmarks, but didn't see any for normal bookmarks? Or even for
> search-plugins (mycroft) - Is it same as opening regular URLs ? (o and t
> ???)

For the first issue, bookmark your pages (quickly done with A), they always appear
before history entries.

I don't really understand the second question.

You can use :open wikipedia foo, if wikipedia is a registered search engine alias.

--Martin

From Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com  Wed Jun 25 06:27:53 2008
From: Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com (Konstantin Stepanov)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:27:53 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] search-and-replace plugin
Message-ID: <486247D9.8020000@exigenservices.com>

Its 1.2pre vimperator compatible incarnation of my search & replace plugin,
implementing :substitute vim command.

Full docs are in attached file :)

-- 
Konstantin Stepanov | Developer
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From Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com  Wed Jun 25 06:39:17 2008
From: Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com (Konstantin Stepanov)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:39:17 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] typograph plugin
Message-ID: <48624A85.3070307@exigenservices.com>

This plugin makes text in textareas more beautiful by
replacing inch marks with double arrowed quotes, hyphens
with long dashes etc.

Full docs are in included file as well :)

-- 
Konstantin Stepanov | Developer
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun 25 06:46:09 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:46:09 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] search-and-replace plugin
In-Reply-To: <486247D9.8020000@exigenservices.com>
References: <486247D9.8020000@exigenservices.com>
Message-ID: <48624C21.6040602@gmx.net>

Konstantin Stepanov wrote:

> Its 1.2pre vimperator compatible incarnation of my search & replace plugin,
> implementing :substitute vim command.

Thanks for the plugin, hopefully some people will like it.
Although, I'd like that behavior to be directly inside of vimperator (in content/editor.js).

If you want that feature to become standard in all vimperators, I would propose this:

*) changing :s!/.../ to that:
   - :s/a/b/ just replaces the last focused textfield
   - :%s/a/b/ replaces all text fields, just like vim
     This would require some changes to the command parser, so it might be too difficult.
     But then I would propose to change the defaults and have :s/a/b replace just the last
     field and :s!/a/b/ to replace all fields, this would be more similar to vim's behavior at
     least.

*) need some documentation in locale/en-US/various.txt or even better in a new file
   locale/en-US/editing.txt

*) If possible, change if (...) { to if (...)\n { and ' to " for quoting strings.

Well, but I can understand that this is too much work for you, maybe somebody else wants this
feature as a core of vimperator and being maintained by me in future, so he can do the changes
and send me a patch rather than a plugin.

Good work,

Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun 25 06:47:36 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:47:36 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] typograph plugin
In-Reply-To: <48624A85.3070307@exigenservices.com>
References: <48624A85.3070307@exigenservices.com>
Message-ID: <48624C78.4070101@gmx.net>

Konstantin Stepanov wrote:

> This plugin makes text in textareas more beautiful by
> replacing inch marks with double arrowed quotes, hyphens
> with long dashes etc.

Also great work, I'd like that behavior to remain a plugin, however.
I'll upload it to the scripts section, when i find time.

Thanks,

Martin

From norm at gnurple.net  Wed Jun 25 07:17:11 2008
From: norm at gnurple.net (Josh Audette)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:17:11 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] Tab completion for URLs and bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <486234F6.7090304@gmx.net>
References: <df4b09320806250313g604b47f3neae30490ea24396b@mail.gmail.com>
	<486234F6.7090304@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <48625367.2030709@gnurple.net>

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> red dweb wrote:
> 
>> Another question, to open bookmarks what is the shortcut. I noticed
>> "go" is for quickmarks, but didn't see any for normal bookmarks? 
> 
> I don't really understand the second question.
> 
> You can use :open wikipedia foo, if wikipedia is a registered search engine alias.

I think the second question (and maybe part of the first, too) is
something along the lines of "How can I open *just* a list of bookmarks
without all the browser history URLs, too?"

I'm also interested to know if this is possible.

-- 
Josh "Norm" Audette
Visit http://www.gnurple.net

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Wed Jun 25 07:24:21 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:24:21 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Tab completion for URLs and bookmarks
In-Reply-To: <48625367.2030709@gnurple.net>
References: <df4b09320806250313g604b47f3neae30490ea24396b@mail.gmail.com>	<486234F6.7090304@gmx.net>
	<48625367.2030709@gnurple.net>
Message-ID: <48625515.7030305@gmx.net>

Josh Audette wrote:

> I think the second question (and maybe part of the first, too) is
> something along the lines of "How can I open *just* a list of bookmarks
> without all the browser history URLs, too?"

:help complete

or use :bmarks! <tab>

--
Martin

From daniel.schaffrath at mac.com  Wed Jun 25 09:23:33 2008
From: daniel.schaffrath at mac.com (Daniel Schaffrath)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:23:33 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] ALT mappings and C-[ (on Mac?)
Message-ID: <5C9B1843-C2AE-4E1C-9B31-DBB65ED8E8D5@mac.com>

Hello everybody!

I'd like to have mappings to switch between tabs which use the alt  
modifier and some digit, like <A-1> for moving left, etc. But :map  
<A-1> gt does not work.

The reasons seems to be that vimperators onKeyPress: function (event)  
has the digit '1' already somewhat 'cooked' by the alt modifier in it  
(which renders it to become '?'). If the mapping was meta instead of  
alt the digit is not cooked.

Maybe the vimperator event handler is not "early" enough to get raw  
events? Something similar seems to happen to <C-[> which becomes  
(strange enough) <C-^[> (which is really annoying as the real Escape  
is that far out...)

Does anyone have a clue if this is a vimperator or FF on Mac issue?

Thanks a lot,
Daniel Schaffrath



Vimperator 1.2pre (created: 2008/06/25 01:20:50) running on: Mozilla/ 
5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/ 
2008061004 Firefox/3.0

From k at bijna.net  Wed Jun 25 09:43:44 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:43:44 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806240904hf402a40ud5593d49e7f27854@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>
	<48610333.5090504@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806240904hf402a40ud5593d49e7f27854@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806250943s5f088f9esbe654f90c3b72ba4@mail.gmail.com>

New patch below. because getShortcutOrURI() takes only one string
argument, I modified getSearchURL() so that the engine name and search
terms don't have to be split and the second argument is a boolean to
use defsearch. I modified stringToURLArray() (the only function I
found that calls getSearchURL()) accordingly and moved the file check
to after the calls to getSearchURL(), as I don't think the comment
about speed still applies.
I think I handle post data correctly now but I don't have any search
aliases that use post data. Can someone who does test or give me (a
link to download/install) a search alias with post data?

No modifications (yet) to suggestions. I think alias/keyword handling
should be moved as much as possible (without changing vim bar
behavior) to the Firefox location bar handlers, as that's what I see
being emulated now, but I haven't yet found how Firefox creates its
suggestion list. Maybe with these changes vimperator won't need to
have its own arrays of aliases and keywords.

Index: src/content/bookmarks.js
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/vimperator/src/content/bookmarks.js,v
retrieving revision 1.52
diff -u -r1.52 bookmarks.js
--- src/content/bookmarks.js    17 Jun 2008 00:31:38 -0000      1.52
+++ src/content/bookmarks.js    25 Jun 2008 16:18:29 -0000
@@ -359,50 +359,18 @@
         // if @param engineName is null, it uses the default search engine
         // @returns the url for the search string
         //          if the search also requires a postData, [url,
postData] is returned
-        getSearchURL: function (text, engineName)
+        getSearchURL: function (text, useDefsearch)
         {
             var url = null;
-            var postData = null;
-            if (!engineName)
-                engineName = liberator.options["defsearch"];
-
-            // we need to make sure our custom alias have been set,
even if the user
-            // did not :open <tab> once before
-            this.getSearchEngines();
-
-            // first checks the search engines for a match
-            var engine = searchService.getEngineByAlias(engineName);
-            if (engine)
-            {
-                if (text)
-                {
-                    var submission = engine.getSubmission(text, null);
-                    url = submission.uri.spec;
-                    postData = submission.postData;
-                }
-                else
-                    url = engine.searchForm;
-            }
-            else // check for keyword urls
-            {
-                if (!keywords)
-                    load();
+            var aPostDataRef = null;
+            var searchString = (useDefsearch?
liberator.options["defsearch"] + " " : "") + text;

-                for (var i in keywords)
-                {
-                    if (keywords[i][0] == engineName)
-                    {
-                        if (text == null)
-                            text = "";
-                        url = keywords[i][2].replace(/%s/g,
encodeURIComponent(text));
-                        break;
-                    }
-                }
-            }
+            url = getShortcutOrURI(searchString, aPostDataRef);
+            if (url == searchString)
+                url = null;

-            // if we came here, the engineName is neither a search
engine or URL
-            if (postData)
-                return [url, postData];
+            if (aPostDataRef && aPostDataRef.value)
+                return [url, aPostDataRef.value];
             else
                 return url; // can be null
         },
Index: src/content/util.js
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/vimperator/src/content/util.js,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 util.js
--- src/content/util.js 6 Jun 2008 11:36:51 -0000       1.37
+++ src/content/util.js 25 Jun 2008 16:11:41 -0000
@@ -285,40 +285,27 @@
             // strip each 'URL' - makes things simpler later on
             urls[url] = urls[url].replace(/^\s+/, "").replace(/\s+$/, "");

-            // first check if it is an existing local file but NOT a
search url/keyword
-            // NOTE: the test for being a file is done first, because
it's faster than getSearchURL
-            var file = liberator.io.getFile(urls[url]);
-            if (file.exists() && file.isReadable() &&
!liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL("", urls[url]))
-            {
-                urls[url] = file.path;
-                continue;
-            }
-
             // if the string doesn't look like a valid URL (i.e.
contains a space
             // or does not contain any of: .:/) try opening it with a
search engine
             // or keyword bookmark
-            if (liberator.has("bookmarks") && (/\s/.test(urls[url])
|| !/[.:\/]/.test(urls[url])))
+            if (/\s/.test(urls[url]) || !/:\/\/]/.test(urls[url]))
             {
-                var matches = urls[url].match(/^(\S+)(?:\s+(.+))?$/);
-                var alias = matches[1];
-                var text = matches[2] || null;
-
                 // TODO: it would be clearer if the appropriate call to
                 // getSearchURL was made based on whether or not the
first word was
                 // indeed an SE alias rather than seeing if getSearchURL can
                 // process the call usefully and trying again if it
fails - much
                 // like the comments below ;-)

-                // check if the first word is a search engine
-                var searchURL = liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(text, alias);
+                // check for a search engine match in the string
+                var searchURL =
liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(urls[url], false);
                 if (searchURL)
                 {
                     urls[url] = searchURL;
                     continue;
                 }
-                else // the first word was not a search engine,
search for the whole string in the default engine
+                else // no search engine match, search for the whole
string in the default engine
                 {
-                    searchURL =
liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(urls[url], null);
+                    searchURL =
liberator.bookmarks.getSearchURL(urls[url], true);
                     if (searchURL)
                     {
                         urls[url] = searchURL;
@@ -327,6 +314,13 @@
                 }
             }

+            var file = liberator.io.getFile(urls[url]);
+            if (file.exists() && file.isReadable())
+            {
+                urls[url] = file.path;
+                continue;
+            }
+
             // if we are here let Firefox handle the url and hope it does
             // something useful with it :)
         }

From k at bijna.net  Wed Jun 25 09:53:55 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:53:55 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806250943s5f088f9esbe654f90c3b72ba4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53f7fc100806051056i49b01dd7r97b9c8d496922384@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806091527n62015076x83c202637e573ac2@mail.gmail.com>
	<484DB786.4080905@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806091752l4b902e67s4cdc55fc34edf972@mail.gmail.com>
	<48610333.5090504@gmx.net>
	<53f7fc100806240904hf402a40ud5593d49e7f27854@mail.gmail.com>
	<53f7fc100806250943s5f088f9esbe654f90c3b72ba4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53f7fc100806250953v23302cbasf53bf0d546d89d38@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:
> New patch below...
Sorry. Lines got auto-wrapped in the previous message--patch is likely
not to work. Attached now instead of inline.
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From k at bijna.net  Wed Jun 25 10:16:01 2008
From: k at bijna.net (Kipling Inscore)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:16:01 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Addon search keywords
In-Reply-To: <53f7fc100806250953v23302cbasf53bf0d546d89d38@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <53f7fc100806251016g2ed361d1g464e33b151ca3603@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Kipling Inscore <k at bijna.net> wrote:
>> New patch below...
> Sorry. Lines got auto-wrapped in the previous message--patch is likely
> not to work. Attached now instead of inline.
...and it won't work for other reasons. I hadn't thoroughly tested
it...accidentally dropped "[" from the URL test regexp (which I was
thinking maybe should be changed to :// rather than . or : or /).
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From penryu at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 10:21:24 2008
From: penryu at gmail.com (Tim Hammerquist)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:21:24 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] ALT mappings and C-[ (on Mac?)
In-Reply-To: <5C9B1843-C2AE-4E1C-9B31-DBB65ED8E8D5@mac.com>
References: <5C9B1843-C2AE-4E1C-9B31-DBB65ED8E8D5@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20080625172124.GA22628@kame>

Daniel Schaffrath wrote:
> I'd like to have mappings to switch between tabs which use the alt
> modifier and some digit, like <A-1> for moving left, etc. But :map
> <A-1> gt does not work.
> 
> The reasons seems to be that vimperators onKeyPress: function
> (event)  has the digit '1' already somewhat 'cooked' by the alt
> modifier in it  (which renders it to become '?'). If the mapping was
> meta instead of  alt the digit is not cooked.
>
> Maybe the vimperator event handler is not "early" enough to get raw
> events? Something similar seems to happen to <C-[> which becomes
> (strange enough) <C-^[> (which is really annoying as the real Escape
> is that far out...)
> 
> Does anyone have a clue if this is a vimperator or FF on Mac issue?

The <C-[> issue turned out to be a FF/Cocoa issue with how keyboard
events are reported.  They seem to have chosen to match the Safari
method, rather than the Firefox method used on other platforms.

The bug is here[1].

I posted a patch for Vimperator to work around this in the thread
titled "PATCH: fix broken <C-[> -> <Esc> mapping in FF3-RC/OSX".  It's
inclusion is pending the resolution of the relevant bug.

I don't use the <Alt> key in Vimperator, and the bug doesn't seem to
mention the Alt/Option key, but it's possible it's related.  The patch
doesn't address this, however.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432951

Tim

From madduck at madduck.net  Thu Jun 26 01:01:10 2008
From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:01:10 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] vertical tabs along the right side
Message-ID: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>

Hi,

Is it possible to make the tabs display vertical along the right
side of the window, e.g. like Vertigo or the Tab Sidebar plugin?
I love Vimperator, but I normally use so many tabs in a session that
the display at the top is just useless for me.

Thanks,

-- 
martin | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/
 
"the unexamined life is not worth living" 
                                                             -- platon
 
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From harish.varanasi at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 01:12:18 2008
From: harish.varanasi at gmail.com (Harish Varanasi)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:12:18 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith not
	matching some words as expected
Message-ID: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I recently got introduced to this add-on; it is just fantastic.
Though I am facing a few challenges...

While playing around with a few features, I noticed two issues:

1) :undo or u doesn't seem to undo closed tabs at all
2) :set hintmatching=wordstartswith is not matching words as expected
      Examples:
         a) (Need gvimail plugin) "comma" does not match "Compose
Mail" in gmail.  It should have matched "COMpose MAil"
         b) "roro" does not match "Review: Robot romance `Wall-e&#39;
has heart of gold" in Google News.  It should have matched "RObot
ROmance"

      Otherwise, the matching works in most other cases.

Any ideas?

I am running:
   Vimperator 1.1
   Firefox 3.0 on Windows XP

Thanks,
Harish

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 26 01:17:48 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:17:48 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] vertical tabs along the right side
In-Reply-To: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
References: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <486350AC.8050604@gmx.net>

martin f krafft wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to make the tabs display vertical along the right
> side of the window, e.g. like Vertigo or the Tab Sidebar plugin?
> I love Vimperator, but I normally use so many tabs in a session that
> the display at the top is just useless for me.

Impossible, but you can use "B" and then 15gt to manage your tabs.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Thu Jun 26 01:22:53 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:22:53 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
 not	matching some words as expected
In-Reply-To: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <486351DD.4080201@gmx.net>

Harish Varanasi wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I recently got introduced to this add-on; it is just fantastic.
> Though I am facing a few challenges...
> 
> While playing around with a few features, I noticed two issues:
> 
> 1) :undo or u doesn't seem to undo closed tabs at all


I heard of that just, if you use certain other extensions, try to disable
them to find out, which causes this problem. Or even better start with
a clean profile to see that it's (hopefully ;)) not vimperator's fault.

> 2) :set hintmatching=wordstartswith is not matching words as expected
>       Examples:
>          a) (Need gvimail plugin) "comma" does not match "Compose
> Mail" in gmail.  It should have matched "COMpose MAil"
>          b) "roro" does not match "Review: Robot romance `Wall-e&#39;
> has heart of gold" in Google News.  It should have matched "RObot
> ROmance"

Right, I agree with you, that that should be the desired behavior. But
I remember that problem, Daniel Trstenjak just didn't have
a quick fix for that. Maybe that changed in the meanwhile?

--
Martin

From harish.varanasi at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 01:44:07 2008
From: harish.varanasi at gmail.com (Harish Varanasi)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:44:07 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator] Odd behavior in "textarea" mode
Message-ID: <75afefdd0806260144n24f49f9x2be2978917a7bf7f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am noticing some odd behavior in textarea mode:

1) Not able to enter "insert" mode by clicking on a text box
   To reproduce:
      a) Click on text box; goes into "insert" mode
         IMPORTANT: Do not move the mouse
      b) Press <C-t> to go into textarea mode
      c) Press <ESC> to get out of textarea mode
      d) Press mouse again on textbox, but we don't go back into "insert" mode

   A way to work around this is to click somewhere outside the text
box and then click in the text box.

2) g being entered into text box when in textarea mode
   To reproduce:
      a) Go into textarea mode
      b) Press "g"; it waits for another key
      c) Press <ESC>
      d) Suddenly, a g appears in the text box!

3) m, n, q, r, x, z can be entered into text box when in textarea mode
   To reproduce:
      a) Go into textarea mode
      b) Press one of the above keys


Regards,
Harish

From dotancohen at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 03:15:32 2008
From: dotancohen at gmail.com (Dotan Cohen)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:15:32 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] vertical tabs along the right side
In-Reply-To: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
References: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <880dece00806260315t481ecfe0u5515536991d72c2a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/6/26 martin f krafft <madduck at madduck.net>:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to make the tabs display vertical along the right
> side of the window, e.g. like Vertigo or the Tab Sidebar plugin?
> I love Vimperator, but I normally use so many tabs in a session that
> the display at the top is just useless for me.
>
> Thanks,
>

I use Tree Style Tabs with Vimperator in Firefox3. It also allows the
tabs to run down the side.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

From madduck at madduck.net  Thu Jun 26 05:25:58 2008
From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:25:58 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] vertical tabs along the right side
In-Reply-To: <880dece00806260315t481ecfe0u5515536991d72c2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080626080110.GA7862@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>
	<880dece00806260315t481ecfe0u5515536991d72c2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080626122558.GA21556@piper.oerlikon.madduck.net>

also sprach Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com> [2008.06.26.1215 +0200]:
> I use Tree Style Tabs with Vimperator in Firefox3. It also allows the
> tabs to run down the side.

This works, thanks. What's weird is that clicks on the tabbar
outside of a tab go to the window manager! Right-clicking it with
awesomewm causes a new terminal. Strange.

-- 
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From mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 22:12:09 2008
From: mahefa.randimbisoa at gmail.com (mahefa randimbisoa)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:12:09 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
	not matching some words as expected
In-Reply-To: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> 1) :undo or u doesn't seem to undo closed tabs at all

Works fine for me, *always*.

> 2) :set hintmatching=wordstartswith is not matching words as expected
>      Examples:
>         a) (Need gvimail plugin) "comma" does not match "Compose
> Mail" in gmail.  It should have matched "COMpose MAil"

Works fine with gvimail plugin. Even "cm" does work. What happens when
you type comma? Does it open another link or nothing happens and it
just write "comma" in the status bar and the compose mail isn't
hinted?

/me running latest from CVS on Fx 3.0

From harish.varanasi at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 13:17:26 2008
From: harish.varanasi at gmail.com (Harish Varanasi)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:17:26 -0700
Subject: [Vimperator]  :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
Message-ID: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

** Undo **

The :undo was not working because of the Stealther extension.  It did
the following:
   browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo = 0
essentially disabling undos.

There is no problem with Vimperator with respect to undo.


** hm = wordstartswith **

To Mahefa's point, "cm" matches "Compose Mail" for me as well.
Though, when I enter "comma" to match "Compose Mail" in gmail, it
matches some other links (other mails I have).  Essentially, "Compose
Mail" is not being matched for "comma".  If no other links match
"comma", it lists "comma" in the status bar.

- Harish

From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Sat Jun 28 01:35:45 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:35:45 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND
	hintmatching=wordstartswith	not matching some words as expected
In-Reply-To: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75afefdd0806260112g2c7a1bf1nf01fa959088805db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080628083545.GA5686@desktop>


Hi Harish,

> a) (Need gvimail plugin) "comma" does not match "Compose
>    Mail" in gmail.  It should have matched "COMpose MAil"

I have no idea why this shouldn't work.

> b) "roro" does not match "Review: Robot romance `Wall-e&#39;
>    has heart of gold" in Google News.  It should have matched "RObot
>    ROmance"

The problem here is, that the first 'r' is consumed by 'Review'. There's
done some rematching of already matched characters 
(have a look at the function 'charsAtBeginningOfWords' in 'vimperator/src/content/hints.js'),
but it's not done for the first character. It's just a heurestic to catch some cases.

But it wouldn't be enough to do the rematching also for the first
character to get your desired behaviour, you would have to do a complete
rematch over all words in the link after each typed character, and this
for all character combinations.

Currently you can do the following:
To select the link with 'hintMatching=wordstartswith' you could type 'ro ro' or 'rrr'.
With a space you tell the algorithm which characters are at the beginning of a word.

Personally I prefer 'hintMatching=firstletters', because I think it's
behaviour is more predictable, and in a lot of cases you have to type
less characters than in the other 'hintMatching' ways.


Greetings,
Daniel

From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Sat Jun 28 01:48:20 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:48:20 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
In-Reply-To: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080628084820.GB5686@desktop>


Hi Harish,

> To Mahefa's point, "cm" matches "Compose Mail" for me as well.
> Though, when I enter "comma" to match "Compose Mail" in gmail, it
> matches some other links (other mails I have).  Essentially, "Compose
> Mail" is not being matched for "comma".  If no other links match
> "comma", it lists "comma" in the status bar.

Now I got it. The algorithm matches the least possible characters for
each word.  In this case '[Co]mpose [M]ail'. So the first 'm' isn't
mached in 'Compose' but in 'Mail'. Then the algorithm tries to match
the remaining characters 'ma' ... ups ... but there are no additional
words.

Previously the algorithm matched as much characters as possible for each
word. But this just leads to other problems ...


Greetings,
Daniel 

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 28 04:35:56 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:35:56 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
In-Reply-To: <20080628084820.GB5686@desktop>
References: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080628084820.GB5686@desktop>
Message-ID: <4866221C.1080507@gmx.net>

Daniel Trstenjak wrote:

> Previously the algorithm matched as much characters as possible for each
> word. But this just leads to other problems ...

I think, it should match as much as needed, the user shouldn't even have to
think about corner cases, but just write parts of the first and parts of the 2nd word.

I understand, that this might be much harder to do, but would make the hint
matching much more reliable.

--
Martin

From Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de  Sat Jun 28 05:57:38 2008
From: Daniel.Trstenjak at online.de (Daniel Trstenjak)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:57:38 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
In-Reply-To: <4866221C.1080507@gmx.net>
References: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080628084820.GB5686@desktop> <4866221C.1080507@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20080628125738.GB5621@desktop>


Hi Martin,

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 01:35:56PM +0200, Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> Daniel Trstenjak wrote:
> 
> > Previously the algorithm matched as much characters as possible for each
> > word. But this just leads to other problems ...
> 
> I think, it should match as much as needed, the user shouldn't even have to
> think about corner cases, but just write parts of the first and parts of the 2nd word.

The right thing is neither to match as much as possible nor to match the least
possible. You just have to match the right thing ... ehm ...   

Can you recall the problem with a link on the qt sides? There has been a
link with the name 'Press Release', and you tried to select it by typing
'prel'.

So matching as much as possible is not the "right" thing.

Perhaps I will come up with a better solution.


Greetings,
Daniel

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 28 06:29:30 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:29:30 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] :undo not working AND hintmatching=wordstartswith
In-Reply-To: <20080628125738.GB5621@desktop>
References: <75afefdd0806271317o6bc9eceeq244b7d4d231efad9@mail.gmail.com>	<20080628084820.GB5686@desktop>
	<4866221C.1080507@gmx.net> <20080628125738.GB5621@desktop>
Message-ID: <48663CBA.8070704@gmx.net>

Daniel Trstenjak wrote:

> So matching as much as possible is not the "right" thing.

Sure, it should try to match as much as needed.
So for "press release", it would match "prre" or "prel" or "prer",
a good algorithm would check that.

--
Martin

From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sat Jun 28 12:44:03 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:44:03 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] New idea for a liberator project...
In-Reply-To: <1a59ed5e0806262058h64f250bdh9c6e5836e712a1d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1a59ed5e0806262058h64f250bdh9c6e5836e712a1d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48669483.1090609@gmx.net>

Hi hari,

the best would be to propose this idea to vimperator at mozdev.org (this message
was CC'ed there), but i fear that something like your proposal couldn't be 
done easily. The reason is that all liberator like projects use an existing
project, and just redo the interface, but i don't know of any "shell"-like
program with a mozilla core. One could, however, use XULRunner for this, but 
it'll be a very big project, with lots of work to do.

Nevertheless, if you manage to do it, it would definitely be awesome!

--
Martin

Hari wrote:

> Hello Martin,
> 
> I have been using vimperator for a bit and I really like it. I think its
> an ingenious piece of idea to use ";oX" combination to trigger the links
> -- something that the guys who did lynx never thought about.
> 
> I use a lot of telnet based or serial console devices at work that have
> their own "shell". This means that unlike the unix shells there is no
> support for all the standard aliases, etc. I felt the need for a vi-like
> interface on an x-term window so that I can record marcos, play them
> back, store keystroke mappings, etc and then just play them into the
> console input. So, I'm thinking this would make an ideal canditate for
> another liberator project -- "Vi"ing the terminal emulators. I'm quite
> new to the open-source arena although I'm a professional software
> engineer. Wondering if a new project could be started for this? Do you
> have a mailing list where this idea can be floated? Do let me know your
> thoughts!
> 
> Cheers!
> Hari
> 



From ted at tedpavlic.com  Sat Jun 28 13:42:16 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:42:16 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] New idea for a liberator project...
In-Reply-To: <48669483.1090609@gmx.net>
References: <1a59ed5e0806262058h64f250bdh9c6e5836e712a1d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48669483.1090609@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4866A228.4060100@tedpavlic.com>

It's probably a little silly to assume that readers of this list don't 
know about it, but of course in a UNIX shell, you can do:

	set -o vi

to get vi key mappings at a shell. Of course, that doesn't help you once 
you've forked off another process.

--Ted

>> I have been using vimperator for a bit and I really like it. I think its
>> an ingenious piece of idea to use ";oX" combination to trigger the links
>> -- something that the guys who did lynx never thought about.
>>
>> I use a lot of telnet based or serial console devices at work that have
>> their own "shell". This means that unlike the unix shells there is no
>> support for all the standard aliases, etc. I felt the need for a vi-like
>> interface on an x-term window so that I can record marcos, play them
>> back, store keystroke mappings, etc and then just play them into the
>> console input. So, I'm thinking this would make an ideal canditate for
>> another liberator project -- "Vi"ing the terminal emulators. I'm quite
>> new to the open-source arena although I'm a professional software
>> engineer. Wondering if a new project could be started for this? Do you
>> have a mailing list where this idea can be floated? Do let me know your
>> thoughts!

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From aalinovi at panix.com  Sat Jun 28 21:51:02 2008
From: aalinovi at panix.com (Arthur Alinovi)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:51:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Vimperator] web page navigation
Message-ID: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>

I've just discovered vimperator and am having a hard time figuring out how
to use it.

I'm constantly referring to the help file and have searched thru the
mailing list archives as well as searching google for both vim and
vimperator.

One thing I cannot figure out: if I'm on a web page where the article I'm
reading is continued on page 2; is there a way to get to page 2 via
keyboard or do I use the mouse?

Thanks


From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Sun Jun 29 02:27:00 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:27:00 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] web page navigation
In-Reply-To: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
References: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
Message-ID: <48675564.8010908@gmx.net>

Arthur Alinovi wrote:

> I've just discovered vimperator and am having a hard time figuring out how
> to use it.
> 
> I'm constantly referring to the help file and have searched thru the
> mailing list archives as well as searching google for both vim and
> vimperator.
> 
> One thing I cannot figure out: if I'm on a web page where the article I'm
> reading is continued on page 2; is there a way to get to page 2 via
> keyboard or do I use the mouse?

often you can use ]] to go to the next page, but it does not always work.
Read up the help for it.

--
Martin

From benisty.e at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 08:17:23 2008
From: benisty.e at gmail.com (Emmanuel Benisty)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:17:23 +0700
Subject: [Vimperator] web page navigation
In-Reply-To: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
References: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
Message-ID: <c1f41c620806290817q607ac6c8w357d12cc1b015e82@mail.gmail.com>

> One thing I cannot figure out: if I'm on a web page where the article I'm
> reading is continued on page 2; is there a way to get to page 2 via
> keyboard or do I use the mouse?

check out the 'Some hints about surfing?' section in the Quick-start
tutorial. I think what you're looking for is just about hiting the f
key.

From ted at tedpavlic.com  Sun Jun 29 08:20:31 2008
From: ted at tedpavlic.com (Ted Pavlic)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:20:31 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] web page navigation
In-Reply-To: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
References: <53029.24.164.142.104.1214715062.squirrel@mail.panix.com>
Message-ID: <4867A83F.3010607@tedpavlic.com>

> One thing I cannot figure out: if I'm on a web page where the article I'm
> reading is continued on page 2; is there a way to get to page 2 via
> keyboard or do I use the mouse?

I think the answer to this would vary on the web page. Of course, if you 
type:

	f

you'll get a list of hints that you can dial up (e.g., by number). One 
of those links should be the "next page" or "page 2" link. Similarly, if 
you hit:

	;o

you'll get something similar, but you can TYPE the WORDS of the link.

	So, if there's one page in particular that you need this feature on, 
you could do some sort of mapping...

	:map B ;onews archive

that lets me immediately hit the "News archive" on Google News with "B".

	--Ted

-- 
Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com>

From mikemathieson at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 09:17:53 2008
From: mikemathieson at gmail.com (Michael Mathieson)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:17:53 -0400
Subject: [Vimperator] :set noinsertmode
Message-ID: <4D7A413C-29F2-428D-88E3-D3194FB45373@gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm sorry if this has been asked before but I couldn't seem to figure  
this out from the documentation or mailing list. How does noinsertmode  
work? I am using the latest 1.1 version and with noinsertmode set to  
on I'm thinking that typing gi to select the next input field would  
put me into textarea mode and allow me to use the vi shortcuts to edit  
the text.  Currently it appears to behave the same as if insertmode  
was set to true.

Thanks,
               --Mike

From Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com  Sun Jun 29 16:21:14 2008
From: Konstantin.Stepanov at exigenservices.com (Konstantin Stepanov)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:21:14 +0300
Subject: [Vimperator] search-and-replace plugin
In-Reply-To: <48624C21.6040602@gmx.net>
References: <486247D9.8020000@exigenservices.com> <48624C21.6040602@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <486818EA.2080802@exigenservices.com>

Hi, Martin,

Martin Stubenschrott wrote:
> If you want that feature to become standard in all vimperators, I would propose this:
> 
> *) changing :s!/.../ to that:
>    - :s/a/b/ just replaces the last focused textfield
>    - :%s/a/b/ replaces all text fields, just like vim
>      This would require some changes to the command parser, so it might be too difficult.
>      But then I would propose to change the defaults and have :s/a/b replace just the last
>      field and :s!/a/b/ to replace all fields, this would be more similar to vim's behavior at
>      least.

I took some time for this feature and came with following.

Here's patch to content/commands.js to handle "%" as a count value:

--- commands.js.old     2008-06-29 23:39:07.000000000 +0300
+++ commands.js 2008-06-30 01:27:20.000000000 +0300
@@ -190,6 +190,10 @@
          OPTION_FLOAT: 5,
          OPTION_LIST: 6,

+        COUNT_NONE: -1,
+        COUNT_ALL: -2,
+
+
          __iterator__: function ()
          {
              var sorted = exCommands.sort(function (cmd1, cmd2) { return cmd1.name > cmd2.name; });
@@ -591,14 +595,14 @@
              }

              // 0 - count, 1 - cmd, 2 - special, 3 - args, 4 - heredoc tag
-            var matches = str.match(/^:*(\d+)?([a-zA-Z]+|!)(!)?(?:\s*(.*?)\s*)?$/);
+            var matches = str.match(/^:*(\d+|%)?([a-zA-Z]+|!)(!)?(?:\s*(.*?)\s*)?$/);
              if (!matches)
                  return [null, null, null, null, null];
              matches.shift();

              // parse count
              if (matches[0])
-                matches[0] = parseInt(matches[0], 10);
+                matches[0] = matches[0] == "%"? -2: parseInt(matches[0], 10);
              else
                  matches[0] = -1;


I use -2 value to designate "%" value of count, so plugins which depends on count value
and check it to be less then zero (means no count is specified) are not broken,
and plugins aware of this patch can check if count == -2 to handle "%" option.

I also added COUNT_NONE & COUNT_ALL constants.

New version of searchreplace.js is attached.
It uses this patch to handle "%" value of count.

If -id option is set, no count is used at all, just field with given id is proceeded (if found :),
If count is omitted, last input field is proceeded,
If count is a number > 0, then countth input field (of given type if -type option is set) is proceeded,
If count is "%" (internally a number == -2), then all fields (of given type if -type option) are 
proceeded.

If count is totally omitted -type option has no sense and results in error.

> 
> *) need some documentation in locale/en-US/various.txt or even better in a new file
>    locale/en-US/editing.txt

It's weak point at the moment...

> *) If possible, change if (...) { to if (...)\n { and ' to " for quoting strings.

Done :)

> 
> Well, but I can understand that this is too much work for you, maybe somebody else wants this
> feature as a core of vimperator and being maintained by me in future, so he can do the changes
> and send me a patch rather than a plugin.

I have IMHO on this point:

Actually this "substitute" command duplicates vim's textarea editing feature:
user can always press Ctrl-I to run normal vim and edit text using all vim's power.

Embedded "substitute" command in vimperator is just for convenience, I think most users
will be satisfied with "Ctrl-I" feature. I myself implemented this command
1) to avoid running full vim when I need just some easy/quick text replacement
in a number of form fields, 2) b/c of absence of "Ctrl-I" feature in vimperator 0.5.

If user really wants this command, he always can use the plugin, o/w he can run normal vim
with a single key stroke. I think, its no need to make vimperator more heavy with
additional features (especially if they are really dumb in comparison with correspondent
vim's features and can be handled with normal vim, and "substitute" can).

Well, it's my IMHO only. Anyway you are a commander here :)

> Good work,

Thanks :)

> Martin
> _______________________________________________
> Vimperator mailing list
> Vimperator at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/vimperator
> 

-- 
Konstantin Stepanov | Developer
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From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 30 02:34:31 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:34:31 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] search-and-replace plugin
In-Reply-To: <486818EA.2080802@exigenservices.com>
References: <486247D9.8020000@exigenservices.com> <48624C21.6040602@gmx.net>
	<486818EA.2080802@exigenservices.com>
Message-ID: <4868A8A7.5070706@gmx.net>

Konstantin Stepanov wrote:

> I use -2 value to designate "%" value of count, so plugins which depends on count value
> and check it to be less then zero (means no count is specified) are not broken,
> and plugins aware of this patch can check if count == -2 to handle "%" option.
> 
> I also added COUNT_NONE & COUNT_ALL constants.

Very nice, will apply that.

>> Well, but I can understand that this is too much work for you, maybe somebody else wants this
>> feature as a core of vimperator and being maintained by me in future, so he can do the changes
>> and send me a patch rather than a plugin.
> 
> I have IMHO on this point:
> 
> Actually this "substitute" command duplicates vim's textarea editing feature:
> user can always press Ctrl-I to run normal vim and edit text using all vim's power.
> 
> Embedded "substitute" command in vimperator is just for convenience, I think most users
> will be satisfied with "Ctrl-I" feature. I myself implemented this command
> 1) to avoid running full vim when I need just some easy/quick text replacement
> in a number of form fields, 2) b/c of absence of "Ctrl-I" feature in vimperator 0.5.
> 
> If user really wants this command, he always can use the plugin, o/w he can run normal vim
> with a single key stroke. I think, its no need to make vimperator more heavy with
> additional features (especially if they are really dumb in comparison with correspondent
> vim's features and can be handled with normal vim, and "substitute" can).

Hmm, you might be right, i'll add the plugin to the scripts page now (as well as the other
plugin from you).

Thanks again,

Martin

From ak-palme at ak-palme.de  Mon Jun 30 01:24:13 2008
From: ak-palme at ak-palme.de (AK-Palme)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:24:13 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Basic-Authentication inline
Message-ID: <a0916dda8c7fd98c26543ae6f4e37d71@127.0.0.1>


Hi there,

is there a way or an add-on to firefox to avoid these popups for
username/password in basic-authentication?

Best,
AK-Palme


From stubenschrott at gmx.net  Mon Jun 30 02:43:19 2008
From: stubenschrott at gmx.net (Martin Stubenschrott)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:43:19 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Basic-Authentication inline
In-Reply-To: <a0916dda8c7fd98c26543ae6f4e37d71@127.0.0.1>
References: <a0916dda8c7fd98c26543ae6f4e37d71@127.0.0.1>
Message-ID: <4868AAB7.50506@gmx.net>

AK-Palme wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> is there a way or an add-on to firefox to avoid these popups for
> username/password in basic-authentication?

Not yet, would be nice to avoid all popup dialogs actually, but no
idea how.

--
Martin

From publicity at ak-palme.de  Mon Jun 30 14:21:31 2008
From: publicity at ak-palme.de (AK-Palme)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:21:31 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Basic Authentication inline
Message-ID: <48694E5B.7090307@ak-palme.de>

Hi there,

is there a way or an add-on to firefox to avoid these popups for
username/password in basic-authentication?

Best,
AK-Palme

From ak-palme at ak-palme.de  Mon Jun 30 14:22:56 2008
From: ak-palme at ak-palme.de (AK-Palme)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:22:56 +0200
Subject: [Vimperator] Basic Authentication inline
In-Reply-To: <48694E5B.7090307@ak-palme.de>
References: <48694E5B.7090307@ak-palme.de>
Message-ID: <48694EB0.30504@ak-palme.de>

sorry for double sending. Ignore this please

Best,
AK-Palme

AK-Palme wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> is there a way or an add-on to firefox to avoid these popups for
> username/password in basic-authentication?
> 
> Best,
> AK-Palme
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From sitaramc at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 21:35:07 2008
From: sitaramc at gmail.com (Sitaram Chamarty)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:05:07 +0530
Subject: [Vimperator] web page navigation
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Ted Pavlic <ted at tedpavlic.com> wrote:
>        f
>
> you'll get a list of hints that you can dial up (e.g., by number). One
> of those links should be the "next page" or "page 2" link. Similarly, if
> you hit:
>
>        ;o
>
> you'll get something similar, but you can TYPE the WORDS of the link.

You can type the words of the link even when using "f".