From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Fri Jul 8 08:19:55 2005 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Fri Jul 8 10:30:36 2005 Subject: [Vi] Project proposal and milestones Message-ID: <20050708141955.48741.qmail@web32511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Minh, The project site looks great and it seems like you're off to a good start. The only comment I have right now is that you might want to add a list of deliverables and milestones to the site in addition to the proposal. An example of a possible deliverable for your project would be to have a Vietnamese version of Firefox posted on the Firefox download page by the end of the program. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/all I'm now subscribed to the project list, so if there's anything you'd like to ask me or if I can help with anything, send it to the list and I'll reply. David From mxn at zoomtown.com Fri Jul 8 16:59:14 2005 From: mxn at zoomtown.com (Minh Nguyen) Date: Fri Jul 8 16:14:38 2005 Subject: [vi] Re: Project proposal and milestones In-Reply-To: <20050708141955.48741.qmail@web32511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050708141955.48741.qmail@web32511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42CEDB12.1030507@zoomtown.com> David Boswell wrote: >Minh, > >The project site looks great and it seems like you're off to a good >start. The only comment I have right now is that you might want to add >a list of deliverables and milestones to the site in addition to the >proposal. > >An example of a possible deliverable for your project would be to have >a Vietnamese version of Firefox posted on the Firefox download page by >the end of the program. > >http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/all > >I'm now subscribed to the project list, so if there's anything you'd >like to ask me or if I can help with anything, send it to the list and >I'll reply. > >David > Hi David, Thanks for your message. I've posted a timeframe for the project on the front page. It's not very detailed yet, but I can fill add to the list as needed. By the way, I noticed that the page you linked to lists only binaries. Is it still feasible to provide downloadable locale packages as well? I don't currently have what I need to build Firefox on my computer right now, so I'll have to start thinking about that too. -- Minh Nguyen AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mxn.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 548 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mozdev.org/pipermail/vi/attachments/20050708/63e7d9da/mxn.vcf From mxn at zoomtown.com Sat Jul 9 00:13:39 2005 From: mxn at zoomtown.com (Minh Nguyen) Date: Fri Jul 8 23:24:33 2005 Subject: [vi] Duplicate Effort, Branching Message-ID: <42CF40E3.5020801@zoomtown.com> Okay, it looks like there could be some troubles already with my project. First of all, it looks like Tran Minh Quan has been working on a Firefox 1.1 localization for some time, and has already filed a bug for CVS access [1]. There is also a request for CVS access by Cong Chinh Nguyen [2], but they don't seem to have translated anything yet. Should I get in touch with them about my project? I hadn't realized until today that someone may be actively working on the same thing. This could be a big problem for me, since Google isn't allowing me to collaborate with anyone (other than my mentor, of course), but Quan could have enough work done that there's no chance of me taking over or anything. Also, it looks like they're planning to branch for 1.1 around now, and according to Axel Hecht, there's a possibility that they won't accept new localizations after that happens. So it looks like my translation might have to remain unofficial, probably until the end of the SoC program this summer. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296050 [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282099 -- Minh Nguyen AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mxn.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 548 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mozdev.org/pipermail/vi/attachments/20050708/30084dac/mxn.vcf From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Sat Jul 9 10:50:56 2005 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Sat Jul 9 13:01:39 2005 Subject: [vi] Duplicate Effort, Branching In-Reply-To: <42CF40E3.5020801@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: <20050709165056.17897.qmail@web32513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Minh, I think duplication of effort is something all of the Summer of Code projects might have to deal with. I'll post something about this to the summer@mozdev.org list. As for your project, I'd recommend getting in touch with the people you mentioned and see if they are still working on their projects. It's possible that they are no longer involved and you can take over. It's also possible that we can modify your deliverables slightly based on what other people are doing. If Tran is working on localizing Firefox 1.1, you could work on Firefox 1.0.4 or you could localize Thunderbird or the Mozilla Suite. David > Okay, it looks like there could be some troubles already with my > project. First of all, it looks like Tran Minh Quan has been working > on > a Firefox 1.1 localization for some time, and has already filed a bug > for CVS access [1]. There is also a request for CVS access by Cong > Chinh > Nguyen [2], but they don't seem to have translated anything yet. > Should > I get in touch with them about my project? I hadn't realized until > today > that someone may be actively working on the same thing. This could be > a > big problem for me, since Google isn't allowing me to collaborate > with > anyone (other than my mentor, of course), but Quan could have enough > work done that there's no chance of me taking over or anything. > > Also, it looks like they're planning to branch for 1.1 around now, > and > according to Axel Hecht, there's a possibility that they won't accept > new localizations after that happens. So it looks like my translation > might have to remain unofficial, probably until the end of the SoC > program this summer. > > [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296050 > [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282099 > > -- > Minh Nguyen > AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/ From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Sat Jul 9 11:07:54 2005 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Sat Jul 9 13:18:38 2005 Subject: [vi] Re: Project proposal and milestones In-Reply-To: <42CEDB12.1030507@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: <20050709170754.7467.qmail@web32503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Minh, I'm not sure how the localization team at Mozilla likes to handle checking in official locale packages, but we can always ask them. My thought would be that they wouldn't expect people in the community to create binaries since this requires a lot of infrastructure. We can also talk to developers of other localization projects on the project owners list or the other people doing localization work for the Summer of Code to see if they know the answer to this. David > Thanks for your message. I've posted a timeframe for the project on > the > front page. It's not very detailed yet, but I can fill add to the > list as needed. > > By the way, I noticed that the page you linked to lists only > binaries. > Is it still feasible to provide downloadable locale packages as well? > I don't currently have what I need to build Firefox on my computer > right now, so I'll have to start thinking about that too. > > -- > Minh Nguyen > AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/ From mxn at zoomtown.com Sun Jul 10 16:39:54 2005 From: mxn at zoomtown.com (Minh Nguyen) Date: Sun Jul 10 15:50:47 2005 Subject: [vi] Re: SoC: Firefox-vi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42D1798A.9000207@zoomtown.com> VnPenguin wrote: >Hi, >Just visited your page at http://vi.mozdev.org/index.vi.html. It's a good idea! > >A small question: Do you know any status of any project "vietnamese >translation of Firefox" before starting your SoC project ? > >At VnOSS, we have already this "kind" of job (more or less the same objectif): > > http://vnoss.net/wiki/wakka.php?wiki=FirefoxVi > >Could you tell us more about your project ? > >Thank you, > > No, I wasn't aware of the VnOSS project, even though I linked to its front page at the Vietnamese Wikipedia. :-) Actually, I found about about two other efforts to translate Firefox yesterday: see and . I was planning to translate Firefox 1.1, not 1.0x or earlier. (The VnOSS project seems to be working with an older version.) I am discussing this problem with my mentor, David Boswell , and if there *is* an ongoing effort to translate Mozilla Firefox 1.1, then I'll translate Mozilla Thunderbird instead. Thanks for the heads-up! -- Minh Nguyen AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn@myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mxn.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 515 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mozdev.org/pipermail/vi/attachments/20050710/e3bb41fa/mxn.vcf From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Mon Jul 11 19:57:43 2005 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Mon Jul 11 22:12:28 2005 Subject: [vi] Re: SoC: Firefox-vi In-Reply-To: <42D1798A.9000207@zoomtown.com> Message-ID: <20050712015743.5472.qmail@web32509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > I am discussing this problem with my mentor, David Boswell > , and if there > *is* an ongoing effort to translate Mozilla Firefox 1.1, then I'll > translate Mozilla Thunderbird instead. Thanks for the heads-up! It's great to see so much activity around Vietnamese localization work in the community. If there are already active Firefox translation efforts going on, I think working on Thunderbird sounds like a great idea. David