From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Sep  3 14:54:14 2009
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:54:14 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Project Wizard - Get Started on Your
 Idea	without the Mundane Setup
In-Reply-To: <4A9BEE3B.6020607@mozdev.org>
References: <4A9BE4AB.8020800@mozdev.org>	<7b3407e80908310808w3aba0dccs5a27412be28f1cc6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A9BEE3B.6020607@mozdev.org>
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Doug Warner wrote:
> This looks like it's just adding support for the projects to the
> already-existing extension wizard, so I've just done that.  If you think
> there's other helpful templates that should be added to the wizard for these
> application types, let us know!

Most of the things under 'User Interface Components' are not applicable 
to Fennec, but I guess they can be unticked.

-- 
Brian King
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From doug at mozdev.org  Fri Sep  4 07:36:44 2009
From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:36:44 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Project Wizard - Get Started on Your
 Idea	without the Mundane Setup
In-Reply-To: <4AA03B06.70406@mozdev.org>
References: <4A9BE4AB.8020800@mozdev.org>	<7b3407e80908310808w3aba0dccs5a27412be28f1cc6@mail.gmail.com>	<4A9BEE3B.6020607@mozdev.org>
	<4AA03B06.70406@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <4AA125FC.1050907@mozdev.org>

On 09/03/2009 05:54 PM, Brian King wrote:
> Doug Warner wrote:
>> This looks like it's just adding support for the projects to the
>> already-existing extension wizard, so I've just done that.  If you think
>> there's other helpful templates that should be added to the wizard for
>> these
>> application types, let us know!
> 
> Most of the things under 'User Interface Components' are not applicable
> to Fennec, but I guess they can be unticked.
> 

Do you think we should split Fennec Add-ons out into their own category?  Are
there other customizations you think would be better for it?  As it is, it
would be difficult to disable those UI checkboxes if users wanted both Firefox
and Fennec support in their extension.

-Doug

-- 
Doug Warner    <doug at mozdev.org>        Site Developer
Mozdev.org     http://www.mozdev.org

From doug at mozdev.org  Tue Sep  8 05:15:18 2009
From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:15:18 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mailing List Admin
In-Reply-To: <6c2e269b0909060902i2a257f63yecd576ff132d7971@mail.gmail.com>
References: <42670320907281226r7d7e69dcj75e863231453589b@mail.gmail.com>	<4A6F52C2.3050501@silfreed.net>
	<6c2e269b0909060902i2a257f63yecd576ff132d7971@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA64AD6.9040602@mozdev.org>

On 09/06/2009 12:02 PM, Chris Means wrote:
> Doug,
> 
> I have the same problem with my kivamfichecker
> <https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/admindb/kivamfichecker> project.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Chris
> 

Chris,

I'll reset your admin password for you shortly and send it to you directly
(off-list).

-Doug

-- 
Doug Warner    <doug at mozdev.org>        Site Developer
Mozdev.org     http://www.mozdev.org

From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Sep 10 09:48:07 2009
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:48:07 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
Message-ID: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>

Hi,

Most of the important features since our last revision have been 
implemented, and we are reviewing our roadmap:

http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html

So, what feature(s) would you like to see on Mozdev?

Thanks,
-- 
Brian King
Need free Mozilla project hosting?
http://mozdev.org


From grimholtz at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 11 06:50:14 2009
From: grimholtz at yahoo.com (Eric Jung)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Most of the important features since our last revision have been
> implemented, and we are reviewing our roadmap:
>

It looks to me like 6 out of 7 of the items on the roadmap haven't yet been
implemented, unless I'm missing something? Here's the list of stuff not yet
done AFAIK:

* File upload using common protocols
* Redesign site
* Add code search
* Centralized account management system
* Add a light-weight bug tracking option
* Add the Subversion revision control system.
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From brian at mozdev.org  Fri Sep 11 08:51:11 2009
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:51:11 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>
	<a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AAA71EF.9070508@mozdev.org>

Eric Jung wrote:
> It looks to me like 6 out of 7 of the items on the roadmap haven't yet
> been implemented, unless I'm missing something?

I think what Doug has been doing is moving items into the 'Completed 
Tasks' section below and promoting items into the main section.

> Here's the list of stuff
> not yet done AFAIK:
>
> * File upload using common protocols
> * Redesign site
> * Add code search
> * Centralized account management system
> * Add a light-weight bug tracking option
> * Add the Subversion revision control system.

All of these are open to discussion right now.

-- 
Brian King
Need free Mozilla project hosting?
http://mozdev.org


From doug at mozdev.org  Fri Sep 11 09:09:43 2009
From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:09:43 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <4AAA71EF.9070508@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>	<a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AAA71EF.9070508@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <4AAA7647.8050106@mozdev.org>

On 09/11/2009 11:51 AM, Brian King wrote:
> Eric Jung wrote:
>> It looks to me like 6 out of 7 of the items on the roadmap haven't yet
>> been implemented, unless I'm missing something?
> 
> I think what Doug has been doing is moving items into the 'Completed
> Tasks' section below and promoting items into the main section.

I'd say all 7 of the 7 items are still there.  Brian is correct that as we've
been completing tasks I've been moving them down below, but we can age those
out as well.

-Doug

-- 
Doug Warner    <doug at mozdev.org>        Site Developer
Mozdev.org     http://www.mozdev.org

From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org  Fri Sep 11 13:54:02 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:54:02 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <4AAAB8EA.7020109@amadzone.org>

Brian King wrote:
> http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html
> 
> So, what feature(s) would you like to see on Mozdev?



The ability to upload files without revision control would certainly
be useful to me, in order to provide temporary test builds of my
extension in response to specific bug reports. Other developers might
also want to upload "nightly" builds.



I'd really like to be able to use only one revision control system for
all the areas of my project: source, downloads and website. I currently
do everything offline with Mercurial, but when I'm ready with a new
release (source, downloads and documentation) I have to both push my
changes to Mercurial and manually synchronize "www" and "downloads"
with a separate commit to CVS.

The number of projects that use Mercurial is relatively small, so
the request above is probably not very urgent at present, but if you
introduce Subversion I guess it would be better to allow the interested
project owners to convert their existing repositories and then use
Subversion for all the tasks, allowing them to dismiss CVS. I say this
since in the bug [1] there's a different proposal.



I don't know what you have in mind for the redesign of the site, and
how it would affect project pages. I just remember that I opted to
remove the sidebar since it had links (like "Bug Tracking") that
seemed to be related to the specific project, but actually took users
away from the task they were trying to accomplish (report a bug for
the project).

In general I also tried to make my project site more user-oriented,
rather than developer-oriented, with download boxes like those on
addons.mozilla.org. I moved developer-oriented pages (with links
to source code, VCS feeds and so on) a level deeper.



Hope this helps!

Regards,
Paolo

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19490


From philip at aleytys.pc.my  Fri Sep 11 20:30:25 2009
From: philip at aleytys.pc.my (Philip Chee)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:30:25 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20.1252685394.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>	<a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>	<4AAA71EF.9070508@mozdev.org>
	<mailman.20.1252685394.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <h8f4j0$qrp$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:09:43 -0400, Doug Warner wrote:
> On 09/11/2009 11:51 AM, Brian King wrote:
>> Eric Jung wrote:
>>> It looks to me like 6 out of 7 of the items on the roadmap haven't yet
>>> been implemented, unless I'm missing something?
>> 
>> I think what Doug has been doing is moving items into the 'Completed
>> Tasks' section below and promoting items into the main section.
> 
> I'd say all 7 of the 7 items are still there.  Brian is correct that as we've
> been completing tasks I've been moving them down below, but we can age those
> out as well.

MXR would be nice.

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.


From stevel at songbirdnest.com  Fri Sep 11 21:22:58 2009
From: stevel at songbirdnest.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:22:58 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <4AAAB8EA.7020109@amadzone.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org> <4AAAB8EA.7020109@amadzone.org>
Message-ID: <4AAB2222.1000208@songbirdnest.com>

Paolo Amadini wrote:
> Brian King wrote:
>    
>> http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html
>>
>> So, what feature(s) would you like to see on Mozdev?
>>      
>
>
>
> The ability to upload files without revision control would certainly
> be useful to me, in order to provide temporary test builds of my
> extension in response to specific bug reports. Other developers might
> also want to upload "nightly" builds.
>
>
>
> I'd really like to be able to use only one revision control system for
> all the areas of my project: source, downloads and website. I currently
> do everything offline with Mercurial, but when I'm ready with a new
> release (source, downloads and documentation) I have to both push my
> changes to Mercurial and manually synchronize "www" and "downloads"
> with a separate commit to CVS.
>
> The number of projects that use Mercurial is relatively small, so
> the request above is probably not very urgent at present, but if you
> introduce Subversion I guess it would be better to allow the interested
> project owners to convert their existing repositories and then use
> Subversion for all the tasks, allowing them to dismiss CVS. I say this
> since in the bug [1] there's a different proposal.
>
>
>
> I don't know what you have in mind for the redesign of the site, and
> how it would affect project pages. I just remember that I opted to
> remove the sidebar since it had links (like "Bug Tracking") that
> seemed to be related to the specific project, but actually took users
> away from the task they were trying to accomplish (report a bug for
> the project).
>
> In general I also tried to make my project site more user-oriented,
> rather than developer-oriented, with download boxes like those on
> addons.mozilla.org. I moved developer-oriented pages (with links
> to source code, VCS feeds and so on) a level deeper.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Regards,
> Paolo
>
>    
Definitely agree with Paolo.  Single/unified SCM of choice would be 
fantastic.

cheers,
steve

-- 
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From dusty at hey.nu  Sat Sep 12 22:46:23 2009
From: dusty at hey.nu (Dusty Wilson)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my> wrote:
> MXR would be nice.

I'd be pretty fond of a git option.  We use git for everything for our
project (and every other project we do, too).  Considering the
popularity of git lately, I'd suggest it would be a good thing to
permit.  But then again, we don't really need to use mozdev for our
repository since we use github for that.  We really only need to be
able to upload things after we've already pushed to github.

Dusty

From rockyblank at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 08:09:35 2009
From: rockyblank at gmail.com (BRAM IRIANTO)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:09:35 +0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Project_owners Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1252609201.49414.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.3.1252609201.49414.project_owners@mozdev.org>
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<http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20090906/18bf0af0/attachment-0005.html>Demak,
13 September 2009, Time: 21:07 pm

To:-Chris

To all my time saying many thanks to [there is a master of Mozdev.org Team,
which has sent an e-mail.
I hope the contents of the article pages to send, can really bring my blog
to the direction of progress, and hopefully I understand it and not make the
team upset the master of Mozdev.org.

Thank you.

-BRAM IRIANTO
-rockyblank @ gmail.com
-http://www.kencangratis.blogspot.com/2009/MENJALANKAN IKLAN
ADSENSE<http://www.kencangratis.blogspot.com/2009/MENJALANKAN%20IKLAN%20ADSENSE>
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From axel at pike.org  Mon Sep 14 03:13:13 2009
From: axel at pike.org (Axel Hecht)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:13:13 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <mailman.26.1252820796.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org>	<a392ae8d0909110650p1405952bw3340c93626bfe02e@mail.gmail.com>	<4AAA71EF.9070508@mozdev.org>	<mailman.20.1252685394.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<h8f4j0$qrp$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
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On 13.09.09 07:46, Dusty Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Philip Chee<philip at aleytys.pc.my>  wrote:
>> MXR would be nice.
>
> I'd be pretty fond of a git option.  We use git for everything for our
> project (and every other project we do, too).  Considering the
> popularity of git lately, I'd suggest it would be a good thing to
> permit.  But then again, we don't really need to use mozdev for our
> repository since we use github for that.  We really only need to be
> able to upload things after we've already pushed to github.
>
> Dusty

Having worked on github, the collaborative features there just rock, 
IMHO. In particular the network view, which even bitbucket doesn't have 
yet, 
http://bitbucket.org/jespern/bitbucket/issue/820/bitbucket-should-have-somthing-like-githubs-network.

I am tending towards using those external hosting service by now, though 
perhaps some API integration of hg and bitbucket and possibly git and 
github might be interesting. That way, you could host your "central" 
repo on mozdev and use bitbucket and github for user and branch repos.

Just rambling.

Axel

From doug at mozdev.org  Mon Sep 14 05:35:37 2009
From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:35:37 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Bugzilla 3.0.9 Update In-Progress
Message-ID: <4AAE3899.8060008@mozdev.org>

We're currently upgrading our bugzilla instance [1] to version 3.0.9 due to
some nasty security problems [2].  Our bugzilla might be down temporarily
during this update but the downtime should be minimal.  If you notice any
problems afterward, please let us know.

We're also planning on upgrading to bugzilla 3.4.2 in the near future.  If
you have any ideas on features you'd like to see that are available in the
new version, let us know!

-Doug

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/
[2] http://www.bugzilla.org/security/3.0.8/

-- 
Doug Warner    <doug at mozdev.org>        Site Developer
Mozdev.org     http://www.mozdev.org

From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com  Mon Sep 14 11:34:58 2009
From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:34:58 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] SeaMonkey 2.0 add-ons notice?
Message-ID: <h8m2e9$30ki$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Before Firefox 3.5 came out, I received an e-mail message from MozDev, 
prompting me to update my add-ons for the release.

With SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 out, the release being expected in one month, 
and support of the newest add-ons infrastructure being available thanks 
to the migration to toolkit, how about the same notice for SeaMonkey 2.0?

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Sep 15 14:23:12 2009
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:23:12 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] SeaMonkey 2.0 add-ons notice?
In-Reply-To: <h8m2e9$30ki$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <h8m2e9$30ki$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <4AB005C0.80202@mozdev.org>

Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote:
> With SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 out, the release being expected in one month,
> and support of the newest add-ons infrastructure being available thanks
> to the migration to toolkit, how about the same notice for SeaMonkey 2.0?

And I think Thunderbird 3.0b4 would warrant a notice as well.

-- 
Brian King
Need Mozilla Project Hosting?
http://mozdev.org

From Joachim.Herb at gmx.de  Tue Sep 22 13:30:16 2009
From: Joachim.Herb at gmx.de (Joachim Herb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:30:16 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Download link for Thunderbird add-on
Message-ID: <4AB933D8.8080205@gmx.de>

Hello,

I have published two add-ons for Thunderbird. If you click on a link 
pointing to the download address in Firefox, it tries to install the 
add-on. How can I avoid this? It would be much better if the usual 
download dialog opens.

Example: http://compactheader.mozdev.org/installation.html pointing to 
http://downloads.mozdev.org/compactheader/CompactHeader-0.7.3.xpi

Thank you
Joachim

From alta88 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 18:00:05 2009
From: alta88 at gmail.com (alta88[nntp])
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:00:05 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Roadmap Review - Input welcome
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1252729398.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <4AA92DC7.60400@mozdev.org> <4AAAB8EA.7020109@amadzone.org>
	<mailman.25.1252729398.85486.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <h9rm5k$15u8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>




---On 2009.Sep.12 12:22 AM, Stephen Lau wrote:
> Paolo Amadini wrote:
>> Brian King wrote:
>>   
>>> http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html
>>>
>>> So, what feature(s) would you like to see on Mozdev?
> Definitely agree with Paolo.  Single/unified SCM of choice would be 
> fantastic. 
>
> cheers,
> steve

second that, a single source control system, be it mercurial (my 
preference, and due to its use by mozilla) or svn if you support both.