From axel.grude at googlemail.com Sat Nov 7 04:52:03 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:52:03 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] Could somebody please review my Extension? Message-ID: <4AF56D73.3070200@gmail.com> Good morning, if there are any AMO editors here, can somebody please review QuickFolders for me? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/3254 SeaMonkey users want QF badly, the latest version number of Postbox also had to be bumped. Its the third version released since the official 1.5pre2 - there is not a hell of a lot new functionality but 3 locales (Japanese, Russian, Portuguese) have also been added. The last reviewed version was released on 30/09/2009 - turns out I have roughly a monthly release cycle for new versions, is that too often? thanks Axel Recent Version History: version 1.6.2 - 07/11/2009 * Branched SeaMonkey overlay file for future CSS fixes * Bumped up Postbox Compatibility to 1.1 * version 1.6.1 - 28/10/2009 o Added SeaMonkey Compatibility. o Verified Compatibility for Postbox 1.0.2 o Less noise in the debug window. * version 1.6 - 23/10/2009 o added locales for Japanese (Masahiko Imanaka), Portuguese (Marcelo Ghelman), Russian (Anton Pinsky) o fixed: Bug 21919 TB not displaying the colors on start up o fixed: in Postbox - the color sub menu now displays colors o added: error handling in Drag-Drop Known issues specific to Linux o In certain Linux environments, such as Ubuntu Jounty when the users drag a message into a quickfolder tab and then try to move it to a subfolder on the subfolder popup menu, thunderbird just closes. -- ================================== Axel Grude Senior Software Developer GenBase Solutions Ltd Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. www.genbase.ie phone: 091 746 965 ================================== sig: try *firefox*. it supports www standards better! disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at mozdev.org Mon Nov 9 19:16:20 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:16:20 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <647239.73162.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <647239.73162.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AF8DB04.3060405@mozdev.org> On 10/28/2009 01:09 PM, David Boswell wrote: >> What exactly is the Mozdev boards motivation (reason/s) for >> abandoning ship? Is this a money issues? > > Most of the mozdev board has been involved with mozdev for many years -- several of us have been involved for all 9 years. If we are abandoning ship, it is a _very_ slowly sinking ship. > > As Brian said earlier, it's simply time for some fresh faces -- people with new ideas and new energy. > >> Will Mozilla stop supporting (hello money) the >> site/organization? > > The Mozilla Foundation has been very generous in the past and there's certainly a possibility for future funding -- but not without a clear plan. > > As Brian said earlier, we don't feel that hosting is a problem in the community as it once was so the way forward is unclear. A new community council will hopefully bring some new ideas into the process of figuring out a path forward. > >> What are your predictions for the future for Mozdev? > > It could be a range of things -- the site and community could grow and thrive or it could slowly wind down as people go to other sites and tools. Personally I think the site should remain as a historical record even if people weren't actively using it any more. > It would be great if we could work out a meeting time (probably on IRC) where we can talk about plans for Mozdev's future. If you've indicated you're interested in helping out [1], please let me know what times work well for you either this week or next and I'll try to get a time and agenda set up that best suits everyone. -Doug [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/New-People -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From eric.jung at yahoo.com Mon Nov 9 19:51:07 2009 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric Jung) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 22:51:07 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <4AF8DB04.3060405@mozdev.org> References: <647239.73162.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AF8DB04.3060405@mozdev.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > either this week or next and I'll try to get a time and agenda set up that > best suits everyone. > > I suggest we use http://www.doodle.com/ to coordinate this. Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anidps at gmail.com Tue Nov 10 00:26:04 2009 From: anidps at gmail.com (anirvana mishra) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:56:04 +0530 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: References: <647239.73162.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AF8DB04.3060405@mozdev.org> Message-ID: I will be available this week(anytime till 17th november),and please make sure that the meeting time is suitable for Indians as well. On 11/10/09, Eric Jung wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > > >> either this week or next and I'll try to get a time and agenda set up that >> best suits everyone. >> >> > I suggest we use http://www.doodle.com/ to coordinate this. > > Eric > -- All the best. From jesper at heroes-addon.dk Tue Nov 10 03:07:55 2009 From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:07:55 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: References: <647239.73162.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AF8DB04.3060405@mozdev.org> Message-ID: What hours of the day would cover as much "earth" as possible? Time where people are sleepless zombies yet that is. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM, anirvana mishra wrote: > I will be available this week(anytime till 17th november),and please > make sure that the meeting time is suitable for Indians as well. > > On 11/10/09, Eric Jung wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > > > > > >> either this week or next and I'll try to get a time and agenda set up > that > >> best suits everyone. > >> > >> > > I suggest we use http://www.doodle.com/ to coordinate this. > > > > Eric > > > > > -- > All the best. > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Time where > people are sleepless zombies yet that is. > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM, anirvana mishra wrote: > >> I will be available this week(anytime till 17th november),and please >> make sure that the meeting time is suitable for Indians as well. >> >> On 11/10/09, Eric Jung wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Doug Warner wrote: >> > >> > >> >> either this week or next and I'll try to get a time and agenda set up >> that >> >> best suits everyone. >> >> >> >> >> > I suggest we use http://www.doodle.com/ to coordinate this. >> > >> > Eric >> > >> >> >> -- >> All the best. >> _______________________________________________ >> Project_owners mailing list >> Project_owners at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I put some hours in to the poll, but I must not be smart enough to figure it all out since it looked like there were some hours missing :) I'll try to make any time that we pick, so don't worry about my hours... David From doug at mozdev.org Tue Nov 10 09:33:22 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:33:22 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <648366.26667.qm@web33007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <648366.26667.qm@web33007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AF9A3E2.8090304@mozdev.org> On 11/10/2009 11:06 AM, David Boswell wrote: > I put some hours in to the poll, but I must not be smart enough to figure it all out since it looked like there were some hours missing :) > > I'll try to make any time that we pick, so don't worry about my hours... > The hours were entered by me; I tried to pick some time ranges throughout the day that didn't make the poll super annoying and huge. Let me know if it doesn't cover a time that you think it should or that you need. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Tue Nov 10 10:51:41 2009 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:51:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <4AF9A3E2.8090304@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <9921.68859.qm@web33003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Let me know if it doesn't cover a time that you think it should or that > you need. I would be able to meet in the evenings (around 8 or 9 pacific) if needed to work with other time zones. David From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Nov 10 16:22:12 2009 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric Jung) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:22:12 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <9921.68859.qm@web33003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4AF9A3E2.8090304@mozdev.org> <9921.68859.qm@web33003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM, David Boswell wrote: > > Let me know if it doesn't cover a time that you think it should or that > > you need. > > I would be able to meet in the evenings (around 8 or 9 pacific) if needed > to work with other time zones. > > I think we should choose a deadline for people to submit their availability... so we don't wait for a week, then everyone has to submit their availability again :) Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 11/11/09, Doug Warner wrote: > On 11/10/2009 07:22 PM, Eric Jung wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:51 PM, David Boswell > > wrote: >> >> > Let me know if it doesn't cover a time that you think it should or >> that >> > you need. >> >> I would be able to meet in the evenings (around 8 or 9 pacific) if >> needed to work with other time zones. >> >> >> I think we should choose a deadline for people to submit their >> availability... so we don't wait for a week, then everyone has to submit >> their availability again :) >> >> Eric > > Yes, that would have been smart to do ;) > > So far the two best times are: > Thursday, Nov 12th @11:00 EST > Saturday, Nov 14th @11:00 EST > > How does everyone feel about a meeting tomorrow? > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > -- All the best. From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Wed Nov 11 10:20:56 2009 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:20:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <4AFAB149.3020001@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <222443.47558.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Thursday, Nov 12th @11:00 EST I should be able to make that. Just to confirm, we're meeting in #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org? David From doug at mozdev.org Wed Nov 11 10:36:30 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:36:30 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <222443.47558.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <222443.47558.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AFB042E.3040806@mozdev.org> On 11/11/2009 01:20 PM, David Boswell wrote: >> Thursday, Nov 12th @11:00 EST > I should be able to make that. Just to confirm, we're meeting in #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org? > Correct. I'll send out a new email w/ the details and blog about it shortly. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From doug at mozdev.org Wed Nov 11 10:41:43 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:41:43 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Organizational Changes In-Reply-To: <4AFB042E.3040806@mozdev.org> References: <222443.47558.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4AFB042E.3040806@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4AFB0567.5@mozdev.org> On 11/11/2009 01:36 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > On 11/11/2009 01:20 PM, David Boswell wrote: >>> >> Thursday, Nov 12th @11:00 EST >> > I should be able to make that. Just to confirm, we're meeting in #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org? >> > > Correct. I'll send out a new email w/ the details and blog about it shortly. > Actually, I'm not going to be able to make it tomorrow so we'll probably have to do Saturday. From looking at the poll, that is actually a better time anyway and it'll give other people more heads-up to make the meeting. Details sent shortly. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From doug at mozdev.org Wed Nov 11 10:47:20 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:47:20 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) Message-ID: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> We'd like to have a meeting to discuss the new Mozdev community organization with interested parties. So far the most people seem to be able to meet on Saturday, so I'd like to propose the following time: Saturday, Nov 14th 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org The meeting will be logged and will be available here: http://irc.mozdev.org/logs.html We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as we have some more ideas. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From ocramius at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:53:50 2009 From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:53:50 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> References: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> Message-ID: I hope my laptop will work for that day :S The AC-DC adapter is broken, got to fix it -.- Will be there if it is possible. 2009/11/11 Doug Warner > We'd like to have a meeting to discuss the new Mozdev community > organization > with interested parties. So far the most people seem to be able to meet on > Saturday, so I'd like to propose the following time: > > Saturday, Nov 14th > 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) > #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org > > The meeting will be logged and will be available here: > http://irc.mozdev.org/logs.html > > We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as we > have > some more ideas. > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -- Marco Pivetta - Ocramius Aethril Standard Ogame Project - StOgame http://www.stogame.net Making Ogame a better place... Sent from Padova, Veneto, Italia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dipankarsarkar at gmail.com Wed Nov 11 23:55:40 2009 From: dipankarsarkar at gmail.com (Dipankar Sarkar) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:40 +0530 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> References: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> Message-ID: Looking forward to the meeting Dipankar Sarkar Mobile (India) +91 981 145 2098 | Phone (US) +1 415 670 9162 gtalk: dipankarsarkar | twitter : dipankarsarkar | skype : dipankar.sarkar web: http://dipankar.name | blog: http://desinerd.com | IRC nick: doom2quake On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Doug Warner wrote: > We'd like to have a meeting to discuss the new Mozdev community > organization > with interested parties. So far the most people seem to be able to meet on > Saturday, so I'd like to propose the following time: > > Saturday, Nov 14th > 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) > #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org > > The meeting will be logged and will be available here: > http://irc.mozdev.org/logs.html > > We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as we > have > some more ideas. > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at mozdev.org Fri Nov 13 04:42:05 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:42:05 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> References: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4AFD541D.2070400@mozdev.org> On 11/11/2009 01:47 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > Saturday, Nov 14th > 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) > #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org > > We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as we have > some more ideas. The meeting agenda is here: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-14 With some discussion already occuring on the talk page: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/node/343/talk -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From doug at mozdev.org Sat Nov 14 08:08:27 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:08:27 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4AFD541D.2070400@mozdev.org> References: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> <4AFD541D.2070400@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4AFED5FB.1090700@mozdev.org> On 11/13/2009 07:42 AM, Doug Warner wrote: > On 11/11/2009 01:47 PM, Doug Warner wrote: >> Saturday, Nov 14th >> 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) >> #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org >> >> We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as we have >> some more ideas. > > The meeting agenda is here: > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-14 > > With some discussion already occuring on the talk page: > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/node/343/talk Just a reminder that the meeting is just starting if you'd like to come by. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From doug at mozdev.org Sun Nov 15 10:42:02 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:42:02 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Next Mozdev Community Meeting; vote on time (Wed-Fri) Message-ID: <4B004B7A.9080900@mozdev.org> Our last meeting for the Mozdev community organization was terrific; we had great participation and ended up running out of time! We would like to schedule a meeting ASAP so we can continue to get community discussion on Mozdev's future, so I've setup another poll to determine the best time. http://www.doodle.com/pcp7awksfptvg5gf I plan on closing this poll by 15:00 EST, Tuesday (20:00 UTC) in order to get the best time announced to all interested parties in time for the meeting, so be sure to go vote now! If you're interested in the discussion from the meeting on Saturday, it can be found here (starting at T16:00 - T18:00): http://irc.mozdev.org/logs/Mozilla/%23mozdev/2009/11/%23mozdev.2009-11-14.log -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From ocramius at gmail.com Sun Nov 15 10:54:14 2009 From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:54:14 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Community Organization Meeting - Satuday, Nov 14th @ 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4AFED5FB.1090700@mozdev.org> References: <4AFB06B8.9010804@mozdev.org> <4AFD541D.2070400@mozdev.org> <4AFED5FB.1090700@mozdev.org> Message-ID: Sorry, didn't make it :( I'll look forward to get re-aligned with the meeting notes as soon as I get a stable connection/pc 2009/11/14 Doug Warner > On 11/13/2009 07:42 AM, Doug Warner wrote: > > On 11/11/2009 01:47 PM, Doug Warner wrote: > >> Saturday, Nov 14th > >> 11:00 EST (17:00 UTC) > >> #mozdev on irc.mozilla.org > >> > >> We're still working on an agenda and will post a link to it as soon as > we have > >> some more ideas. > > > > The meeting agenda is here: > > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-14 > > > > With some discussion already occuring on the talk page: > > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/node/343/talk > > Just a reminder that the meeting is just starting if you'd like to come by. > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -- Marco Pivetta - Ocramius Aethril Standard Ogame Project - StOgame http://www.stogame.net Making Ogame a better place... 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For me it is not possible to change my password when I am logged in as administrator -following the reset password link from an email, the page says I should change my password but all I can enter is this: Account information (Username, Email,Status, Roles - no password settings) Theme configuration Comment Settings Locale Settings the page displays my username (axel.grude) on the left hand side and on the menu and content pane but I think it uses my email address for credentials which seems to point to a different database entry / account - therefore no password editing is allowed. I do not want to delete that other user because I am afraid of locking myself out completely (I used my email address when creating the mozdev account, God knows what happens if I delete that). The other problem is that I can not log in to the administration accounts without using the reset password link (all my passwords say I have no rights to edit the user's emails). Once I follow the password reset process I can edit them and approve new members for my forum. This definitely is a reproducible bug, and should really be fixed. Unfortunately I can not help as I don't know php :-( thanks, Axel From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Tue Nov 17 08:38:16 2009 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:38:16 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS trouble Message-ID: Hi there, I'm trying to use mozdev's upload tool of choice (cvs...) to update my extension web page and src. When trying a cvs commit, I get the following for a file with updates: cvs commit: sticky tag `1.4' for file `src/chrome/content/quotecollapse/quotecollapse.js' is not a branch cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! Can someone help me out please? This used to work. Michael From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Tue Nov 17 08:50:10 2009 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:50:10 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble Message-ID: Geesh, this us so encouraging. After finding my way through the new AMO site and trying to upload a new version of an existing extension (quotecollapse) to AMO, AMO hangs for a while, then tells me that there was a problem moving the extension (after reporting 9 tests okay, 1 warning). I can't upload the same version again. In the version list I see 4 copies (although I had only one upload with the problem report and one denied reattempt). One is without tests and without files, the other 3 seem to be identical (with tests and with a file in the sandbox). The new version is merely a compatibility update for TB 3, setting a flag in chrome.manifest. The single warning is about l10n. There is no text in my extension, nothing to l4ize. On the AMO forums, I see no particular forum for reporting problems like that (and requesting review). Can someone help out or direct me appropriately, please? Thanks! Michael From inb.cor at gmail.com Tue Nov 17 09:02:15 2009 From: inb.cor at gmail.com (InBasic) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:02:15 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I encounter to the same problem a while ago, The solution is very simple! Go to "files & versions" section and delete all newly created files (All should have same version). Then try to upload your new version again. Best, InBasic On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:50, Michael J Gruber < michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm > wrote: > Geesh, this us so encouraging. After finding my way through the new AMO > site and trying to upload a new version of an existing extension > (quotecollapse) to AMO, AMO hangs for a while, then tells me that there > was a problem moving the extension (after reporting 9 tests okay, 1 > warning). I can't upload the same version again. > > In the version list I see 4 copies (although I had only one upload with > the problem report and one denied reattempt). One is without tests and > without files, the other 3 seem to be identical (with tests and with a > file in the sandbox). > > The new version is merely a compatibility update for TB 3, setting a > flag in chrome.manifest. The single warning is about l10n. There is no > text in my extension, nothing to l4ize. > > On the AMO forums, I see no particular forum for reporting problems like > that (and requesting review). Can someone help out or direct me > appropriately, please? Thanks! > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at mozdev.org Tue Nov 17 09:09:21 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:09:21 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B02D8C1.4040303@mozdev.org> On 11/17/2009 11:38 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: > I'm trying to use mozdev's upload tool of choice (cvs...) to update my > extension web page and src. When trying a cvs commit, I get the > following for a file with updates: > > cvs commit: sticky tag `1.4' for file > `src/chrome/content/quotecollapse/quotecollapse.js' is not a branch > cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! > > Can someone help me out please? This used to work. Are you using Eclipse? I have problems with branches/tags in Eclipse. If not, try doing "cvs up -A" to reset your stick tags in your working directory. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From doug at mozdev.org Tue Nov 17 09:14:21 2009 From: doug at mozdev.org (Doug Warner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] bug in drupal In-Reply-To: <4B02C246.6070001@gmail.com> References: <4B02C246.6070001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B02D9ED.7020007@mozdev.org> On 11/17/2009 10:33 AM, Axel wrote: > For me it is not possible to change my password when I am logged in as > administrator -following the reset password link from an email, the page > says I should change my password but all I can enter is this: Password editing is disabled because it uses your Mozdev CVS password. You can change/reset your CVS password here: https://www.mozdev.org/profile/change_password.html > (I used > my email address when creating the mozdev account, God knows what > happens if I delete that). If you end up accidentally deleting your Drupal account it will be recreated with the correct permissions; you can't uncheck your project owner/contributor status on your Drupal user as these are synced with our permissions for each project. > > The other problem is that I can not log in to the administration > accounts without using the reset password link (all my passwords say I > have no rights to edit the user's emails). Once I follow the password > reset process I can edit them and approve new members for my forum. > > This definitely is a reproducible bug, and should really be fixed. > Unfortunately I can not help as I don't know php :-( You need to log in to Drupal with your Mozdev CVS user account and password; if that's not working for you we need to get that working first. I imagine the "reset password" link is just giving your a temporary login which expires with your session. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Tue Nov 17 09:09:08 2009 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:09:08 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael J Gruber venit, vidit, dixit 17.11.2009 17:38: > Hi there, > > I'm trying to use mozdev's upload tool of choice (cvs...) to update my > extension web page and src. When trying a cvs commit, I get the > following for a file with updates: > > cvs commit: sticky tag `1.4' for file > `src/chrome/content/quotecollapse/quotecollapse.js' is not a branch > cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! > > Can someone help me out please? This used to work. OK, cvs up -A was the answer, just in case someone else has the same problem. I guess I should go for guerilla git ;) Michael From axel.grude at googlemail.com Tue Nov 17 10:12:51 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:12:51 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] bug in drupal In-Reply-To: <4B02D9ED.7020007@mozdev.org> References: <4B02C246.6070001@gmail.com> <4B02D9ED.7020007@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4B02E7A3.60004@gmail.com> The problem with the CVS password is that I do not know it :-) My TortoiseCVS does... I do not know how to retrieve it from there, so the solution seems to be "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" Why is it not possible to view an existing password online over a secure connection - that would be the best solution IMHO. > On 11/17/2009 10:33 AM, Axel wrote: > >> For me it is not possible to change my password when I am logged in as >> administrator -following the reset password link from an email, the page >> says I should change my password but all I can enter is this: >> > > Password editing is disabled because it uses your Mozdev CVS password. You > can change/reset your CVS password here: > > https://www.mozdev.org/profile/change_password.html > > >> (I used >> my email address when creating the mozdev account, God knows what >> happens if I delete that). >> > > If you end up accidentally deleting your Drupal account it will be recreated > with the correct permissions; you can't uncheck your project owner/contributor > status on your Drupal user as these are synced with our permissions for each > project. > > >> The other problem is that I can not log in to the administration >> accounts without using the reset password link (all my passwords say I >> have no rights to edit the user's emails). Once I follow the password >> reset process I can edit them and approve new members for my forum. >> >> This definitely is a reproducible bug, and should really be fixed. >> Unfortunately I can not help as I don't know php :-( >> > > You need to log in to Drupal with your Mozdev CVS user account and password; > if that's not working for you we need to get that working first. I imagine > the "reset password" link is just giving your a temporary login which expires > with your session. > I think that is what happens - it is just confusing as it explicitely tells me to set a new password, which, as you pointed out, is impossible. So until I find out my CVS password, I can use this as a workaround :) Or I reset my CVS password and then hopefully find the option in TortoiseCVS to enter a new one ... just not today... thx Axel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm sure you can retrieve it from TortoiseCVS somehow (it has to have it in plaintext or some reverse-hashable function to commit your stuff) or you can reset your password and then update TortoiseCVS when it prompts you next time. -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Wed Nov 18 00:26:49 2009 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:26:49 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Doug Warner venit, vidit, dixit 17.11.2009 18:09: > On 11/17/2009 11:38 AM, Michael J Gruber wrote: >> I'm trying to use mozdev's upload tool of choice (cvs...) to update my >> extension web page and src. When trying a cvs commit, I get the >> following for a file with updates: >> >> cvs commit: sticky tag `1.4' for file >> `src/chrome/content/quotecollapse/quotecollapse.js' is not a branch >> cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! >> >> Can someone help me out please? This used to work. > > Are you using Eclipse? I have problems with branches/tags in Eclipse. > > If not, try doing "cvs up -A" to reset your stick tags in your working directory. > > -Doug > Thanks for trying to help. I did that (already) and it worked. I don't use Eclipse. I use cvs really only as an upload and download tool. [Some may say that stresses its capabilities already ;)] Most probably, I checked out a tag at one point and created what I now know is a "sticky tag". I'd switch to hg (though I'm a git) in an instant if it covered www+downloads in addition to src. I think I'll really go for guerilla git on mozdev (driving cvs through git) and report how it goes. I can't possibly mess up more with this then by using cvs directly, given my demonstrated ignorance of cvs... Michael From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Wed Nov 18 00:34:06 2009 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: InBasic venit, vidit, dixit 17.11.2009 18:02: > Hi, > > I encounter to the same problem a while ago, The solution is very simple! > > Go to "files & versions" section and delete all newly created files (All > should have same version). > Then try to upload your new version again. Hmm. I deleted all but one version which is reported as being in the sand box. But, looking on amo with or without logging in as a user, I don't see any hints for a new version in the sandbox. Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. Michael From firefox at maltekraus.de Wed Nov 18 01:31:43 2009 From: firefox at maltekraus.de (Malte Kraus) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:31:43 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/11/18 Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm > Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, > this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as > experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. > Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be approved and it will appear on the main listing. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The agenda is currently very similar to the last meeting's agenda but we will probably spend less time on finances and committee organization: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-20 You may want to review the logs from the last meeting for background: http://irc.mozdev.org/logs/Mozilla/%23mozdev/2009/11/%23mozdev.2009-11-14.log -Doug -- Doug Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org From anidps at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 08:07:39 2009 From: anidps at gmail.com (anirvana mishra) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:37:39 +0530 Subject: [Project_owners] Next Mozdev community meeting - Fri, Nov 20 @ 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4B040C6D.4010402@mozdev.org> References: <4B040C6D.4010402@mozdev.org> Message-ID: Sorry guys, I won't be available for meeting this friday, got to go somewhere very urgently.Will check the logs later. On 11/18/09, Doug Warner wrote: > The next Mozdev community meeting time will be on Friday, November 20, 2009 > at > 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC). We'd appreciate it if you can come by and discuss > Mozdev's future. > > The agenda is currently very similar to the last meeting's agenda but we > will > probably spend less time on finances and committee organization: > > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-20 > > You may want to review the logs from the last meeting for background: > > http://irc.mozdev.org/logs/Mozilla/%23mozdev/2009/11/%23mozdev.2009-11-14.log > > -Doug > > -- > Doug Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -- All the best. From axel.grude at googlemail.com Wed Nov 18 12:51:36 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:51:36 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B045E58.2090407@gmail.com> > Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to > be approved and it will appear on the main listing. Yes, Malte. I am afraid you're right. I think there should be either a 2-tier system for people who release often (I release on average once a month) or a mentoring system, where reviewers who have already reviewed a version get the option of reviewing new releases of their favorite plugin again - wouldn't that save a lot of testing time? For us extension developers I am sure it would be possible to make a case for how important a particular bugfix / feature was... I have 3 new translators waiting for their hard work to go online, a catastrophic bug in Linux (complete TB crash) that was fixed weeks ago, and support for a new application (SeaMonkey) - I got the call for a compatible version from the SeaMonkey guys 2 or 3 weeks ago. I bet the new users would have loved to download the plugin, but they can not see it because the current version (it is the fourth release that is waiting for review) is hidden in the "old versions" section. I also think that unreviewed new versions of already reviewed extensions should be featured more prominently on the AMO plugin pages, I tend to get bug reports for stuff that I have fixed long ago and the ordinary users don't know where to look. Seriously considering hosting elsewhere, if it wasn't yet another leraning curve and possibly hosting costs...1500 downloads per week kind of adds up over time... why shouldn't it possible to contact a reviewer directly if he already knows your plugin? It would surely make the review process more efficient. The other thing that annoys me a little is that there are a plethora of newbie plugins out there that pretty much don't add much value to the host apps, and they are clogging up the whole system and also obscure the good ones - it gets harder to find decent plugins for the "background noise" of imitators etc. I don't know a solution against this, because everybody should be able to contribute but the ones that get most attention from their developers should also get the best chance to be recognized? Naw, I don't know... as I said I haven't a solution. Ever thought for yourself: I know the perfect plugin for my purpose is out there, I just have to find it? > 2009/11/18 Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm > > > Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, > this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as > experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. > > Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to > be approved and it will appear on the main listing. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- ================================== Axel Grude Senior Software Developer GenBase Solutions Ltd Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. www.genbase.ie phone: 091 746 965 ================================== sig: try *firefox*. it supports www standards better! disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric.jung at yahoo.com Thu Nov 19 07:51:04 2009 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric Jung) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:51:04 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: <4B045E58.2090407@gmail.com> References: <4B045E58.2090407@gmail.com> Message-ID: Axel, are you talking about QuickFolders? I can review it for you since I've done that before and am already familiar with it. Let me know. I wouldn't be able to get to it until this weekend, however. Eric On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Axel wrote: > Yep. Now just wait 3 months?(I'm not exaggerating)?for the update to be > approved and it will appear on the main listing. > > Yes, Malte. > > I am afraid you're right. I think there should be either a 2-tier system for > people who release often (I release on average once a month) or a mentoring > system, where reviewers who have already reviewed a version get the option > of reviewing new releases of their favorite plugin again - wouldn't that > save a lot of testing time? For us extension developers I am sure it would > be possible to make a case for how important a particular bugfix / feature > was... I have 3 new translators waiting for their hard work to go online, a > catastrophic bug in Linux (complete TB crash) that was fixed weeks ago, and > support for a new application (SeaMonkey) - I got the call for a compatible > version from the SeaMonkey guys 2 or 3 weeks ago. I bet the new users would > have loved to download the plugin, but they can not see it because the > current version (it is the fourth release that is waiting for review) is > hidden in the "old versions" section. > > I also think that unreviewed new versions of already reviewed extensions > should be featured more prominently on the AMO plugin pages, I tend to get > bug reports for stuff that I have fixed long ago and the ordinary users > don't know where to look. Seriously considering hosting elsewhere, if it > wasn't yet another leraning curve and possibly hosting costs...1500 > downloads per week kind of adds up over time... > > why shouldn't it possible to contact a reviewer directly if he already knows > your plugin? It would surely make the review process more efficient. The > other thing that annoys me a little is that there are a plethora of newbie > plugins out there that pretty much don't add much value to the host apps, > and they are clogging up the whole system and also obscure the good ones - > it gets harder to find decent plugins for the "background noise" of > imitators etc. I don't know a solution against this, because everybody > should be able to contribute but the ones that get most attention from their > developers should also get the best chance to be recognized? Naw, I don't > know... as I said I haven't a solution. > > Ever thought for yourself: I know the perfect plugin for my purpose is out > there,? I just have to find it? > > 2009/11/18 Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm >> >> Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, >> this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as >> experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. > > Yep. Now just wait 3 months?(I'm not exaggerating)?for the update to be > approved and it will appear on the main listing. > > ________________________________ > > > -- > > ================================== > Axel Grude > Senior Software Developer > GenBase Solutions Ltd > Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 > Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. > www.genbase.ie > phone: 091 746 965 > ================================== > > sig: try firefox. it supports www standards better! > > disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > From axel.grude at googlemail.com Thu Nov 19 08:42:45 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:42:45 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: <4B045E58.2090407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B057585.4000303@gmail.com> Eric, that would be just fantastic!! Yes it is QuickFolders I was talking about. The Portuguese, Japanese and Russian users would be indebted to you forever - not to mention the SeaMonkey community ;) If you could review the latest version 1.6.3 at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addons/versions/3254 that would be really cool! You see what I mean about the mentoring system. ;-) thanks Axel > Axel, are you talking about QuickFolders? I can review it for you > since I've done that before and am already familiar with it. Let me > know. I wouldn't be able to get to it until this weekend, however. > > Eric > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Axel wrote: > >> Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be >> approved and it will appear on the main listing. >> >> Yes, Malte. >> >> I am afraid you're right. I think there should be either a 2-tier system for >> people who release often (I release on average once a month) or a mentoring >> system, where reviewers who have already reviewed a version get the option >> of reviewing new releases of their favorite plugin again - wouldn't that >> save a lot of testing time? For us extension developers I am sure it would >> be possible to make a case for how important a particular bugfix / feature >> was... I have 3 new translators waiting for their hard work to go online, a >> catastrophic bug in Linux (complete TB crash) that was fixed weeks ago, and >> support for a new application (SeaMonkey) - I got the call for a compatible >> version from the SeaMonkey guys 2 or 3 weeks ago. I bet the new users would >> have loved to download the plugin, but they can not see it because the >> current version (it is the fourth release that is waiting for review) is >> hidden in the "old versions" section. >> >> I also think that unreviewed new versions of already reviewed extensions >> should be featured more prominently on the AMO plugin pages, I tend to get >> bug reports for stuff that I have fixed long ago and the ordinary users >> don't know where to look. Seriously considering hosting elsewhere, if it >> wasn't yet another leraning curve and possibly hosting costs...1500 >> downloads per week kind of adds up over time... >> >> why shouldn't it possible to contact a reviewer directly if he already knows >> your plugin? It would surely make the review process more efficient. The >> other thing that annoys me a little is that there are a plethora of newbie >> plugins out there that pretty much don't add much value to the host apps, >> and they are clogging up the whole system and also obscure the good ones - >> it gets harder to find decent plugins for the "background noise" of >> imitators etc. I don't know a solution against this, because everybody >> should be able to contribute but the ones that get most attention from their >> developers should also get the best chance to be recognized? Naw, I don't >> know... as I said I haven't a solution. >> >> Ever thought for yourself: I know the perfect plugin for my purpose is out >> there, I just have to find it? >> >> 2009/11/18 Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm >> >>> Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, >>> this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as >>> experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. >>> >> Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be >> approved and it will appear on the main listing. >> >> ________________________________ >> From axel.grude at googlemail.com Sat Nov 21 06:16:36 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:16:36 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: <4B045E58.2090407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B07F644.5020808@gmail.com> Hi Eric, just to notify you, in case you're reviewing soon(ish), I just released QuickFolders version 1.6.4 with 2 more minor bug fixes - might take a little time to update the page (?) BTW should I delete the interim versions (1.6, 1.6.1, 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 and just merge all the version info into one big file)? regards & thanks for your efforts! Axel > Axel, are you talking about QuickFolders? I can review it for you > since I've done that before and am already familiar with it. Let me > know. I wouldn't be able to get to it until this weekend, however. > > Eric > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Axel wrote: > >> Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be >> approved and it will appear on the main listing. >> >> Yes, Malte. >> >> I am afraid you're right. I think there should be either a 2-tier system for >> people who release often (I release on average once a month) or a mentoring >> system, where reviewers who have already reviewed a version get the option >> of reviewing new releases of their favorite plugin again - wouldn't that >> save a lot of testing time? For us extension developers I am sure it would >> be possible to make a case for how important a particular bugfix / feature >> was... I have 3 new translators waiting for their hard work to go online, a >> catastrophic bug in Linux (complete TB crash) that was fixed weeks ago, and >> support for a new application (SeaMonkey) - I got the call for a compatible >> version from the SeaMonkey guys 2 or 3 weeks ago. I bet the new users would >> have loved to download the plugin, but they can not see it because the >> current version (it is the fourth release that is waiting for review) is >> hidden in the "old versions" section. >> >> I also think that unreviewed new versions of already reviewed extensions >> should be featured more prominently on the AMO plugin pages, I tend to get >> bug reports for stuff that I have fixed long ago and the ordinary users >> don't know where to look. Seriously considering hosting elsewhere, if it >> wasn't yet another leraning curve and possibly hosting costs...1500 >> downloads per week kind of adds up over time... >> >> why shouldn't it possible to contact a reviewer directly if he already knows >> your plugin? It would surely make the review process more efficient. The >> other thing that annoys me a little is that there are a plethora of newbie >> plugins out there that pretty much don't add much value to the host apps, >> and they are clogging up the whole system and also obscure the good ones - >> it gets harder to find decent plugins for the "background noise" of >> imitators etc. I don't know a solution against this, because everybody >> should be able to contribute but the ones that get most attention from their >> developers should also get the best chance to be recognized? Naw, I don't >> know... as I said I haven't a solution. >> >> Ever thought for yourself: I know the perfect plugin for my purpose is out >> there, I just have to find it? >> >> 2009/11/18 Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm >> >>> Only when I click on "show previous versions" (or something like that, >>> this is back-translated from l10n) the sandboxed version is shown as >>> experimental. I guess this is considered normal behavior. >>> >> Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be >> approved and it will appear on the main listing. >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> -- >> >> ================================== >> Axel Grude >> Senior Software Developer >> GenBase Solutions Ltd >> Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 >> Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. >> www.genbase.ie >> phone: 091 746 965 >> ================================== >> >> sig: try firefox. it supports www standards better! >> >> disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Project_owners mailing list >> Project_owners at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > -- ================================== Axel Grude Senior Software Developer GenBase Solutions Ltd Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. www.genbase.ie phone: 091 746 965 ================================== sig: try *firefox*. it supports www standards better! disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dipankarsarkar at gmail.com Mon Nov 23 03:43:42 2009 From: dipankarsarkar at gmail.com (Dipankar Sarkar) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:13:42 +0530 Subject: [Project_owners] Next Mozdev community meeting - Fri, Nov 20 @ 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: References: <4B040C6D.4010402@mozdev.org> Message-ID: Hi, I was unable to attend the meeting and would want to know what was discussed. It would be great if someone could post a minutes of the meeting. I will have a look at the logs too regards, Dipankar Sarkar On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:37 PM, anirvana mishra wrote: > Sorry guys, I won't be available for meeting this friday, got to go > somewhere very urgently.Will check the logs later. > > On 11/18/09, Doug Warner wrote: > > The next Mozdev community meeting time will be on Friday, November 20, > 2009 > > at > > 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC). We'd appreciate it if you can come by and discuss > > Mozdev's future. > > > > The agenda is currently very similar to the last meeting's agenda but we > > will > > probably spend less time on finances and committee organization: > > > > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/Community-Org-Meeting-Agenda-Nov-20 > > > > You may want to review the logs from the last meeting for background: > > > > > http://irc.mozdev.org/logs/Mozilla/%23mozdev/2009/11/%23mozdev.2009-11-14.log > > > > -Doug > > > > -- > > Doug Warner Site Developer > > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Project_owners mailing list > > Project_owners at mozdev.org > > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > > > > -- > All the best. > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mic at strg.at Mon Nov 23 05:59:47 2009 From: mic at strg.at (Michael Dosser) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:59:47 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Next Mozdev community meeting - Fri, Nov 20 @ 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: <4B040C6D.4010402@mozdev.org> References: <4B040C6D.4010402@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <85BD8675-B0BC-498F-B118-917CCB191D42@strg.at> Hi, Am 18.11.2009 um 16:02 schrieb Doug Warner: > The next Mozdev community meeting time will be on Friday, November 20, 2009 at > 14:00 EST (19:00 UTC). We'd appreciate it if you can come by and discuss > Mozdev's future. I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the meeting ... Mic -- strg.at gmbh michael.dosser at strg.at huetteldorferstrasse 63-65/2, 1150 wien tel +43 (1) 526 56 29 mobile +43 699 1 7777 164 http://schwein-gehabt.at || http://tamariki.at From brian at mozdev.org Tue Nov 24 03:43:41 2009 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:43:41 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0BC6ED.8080803@mozdev.org> Malte Kraus wrote: > Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be > approved and it will appear on the main listing. The queue wait times have improved drastically recently: http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/11/13/burning-down-the-add-on-review-queues/ - Brian From axel.grude at googlemail.com Tue Nov 24 04:18:15 2009 From: axel.grude at googlemail.com (Axel) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:18:15 +0000 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: <4B0BC6ED.8080803@mozdev.org> References: <4B0BC6ED.8080803@mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4B0BCF07.6070004@gmail.com> Brian, does this also apply to Thunderbird extensions? 1 week would indeed be drastical, at the moment it seems to be around 1 month, still. It could also be that the time is extended every time one releases an update (my extension has 5 updates pending for reviews, the first update was released October 23rd). Anyway, don't wanna complain, I'd like to do something to shorten the queue by joining the AMO Reviewers - could somebody point me to an online form for applying to become AMO Editor? thanks Axel > Malte Kraus wrote: >> Yep. Now just wait 3 months (I'm not exaggerating) for the update to be >> approved and it will appear on the main listing. > > The queue wait times have improved drastically recently: > > http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/11/13/burning-down-the-add-on-review-queues/ > > > - Brian > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -- ================================== Axel Grude Senior Software Developer GenBase Solutions Ltd Registered in Ireland, No. 317957 Registered address: Parkmore Business Park West, Galway. www.genbase.ie phone: 091 746 965 ================================== sig: try *firefox*. it supports www standards better! disclaimer: personal opinion, not my employer's -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Nov 24 05:56:34 2009 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric Jung) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:56:34 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] AMO trouble In-Reply-To: <4B0BCF07.6070004@gmail.com> References: <4B0BC6ED.8080803@mozdev.org> <4B0BCF07.6070004@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Axel wrote: > Anyway, don't wanna complain, I'd like to do something to shorten the queue > by joining the AMO Reviewers - could somebody point me to an online form for > applying to become AMO Editor? There's no online form. Read this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Editors/Applying https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Editors/ReviewingGuide https://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Editors and, optionally: http://blog.fligtar.com/2008/07/21/get-involved-with-addons/ Eric