From gjm at mozdev.org  Tue Sep  2 05:31:08 2008
From: gjm at mozdev.org (Gerry Murphy)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:31:08 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Errors when updating an XPI
In-Reply-To: <mailman.912.1220081981.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.912.1220081981.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48BD320C.6050602@mozdev.org>

Matthew Wilson wrote:
> Just checked in an updated version of an XPI and got:

...

> Aug 30 00:35:12  [warning] mkdir(): Permission denied 

should be fixed; please reply if you still see errors when checking in.

> Name "main::SCRIPT_URI" used only once: possible typo at 
> /usr/local/sbin/sendmail_logger line 18.

fixed.

greetings,
gerry.

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Sep  2 06:09:54 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:09:54 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Errors when updating an XPI
In-Reply-To: <48B8F937.7060407@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <48B8F937.7060407@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <48BD3B22.7030207@mozdev.org>

Matthew,

These errors should be fixed. Please try again and let me know how you 
get on.

- Brian

Matthew Wilson wrote:
> Just checked in an updated version of an XPI and got:
> 
> Checking in annotations-0.4.0.a.5.xpi;
> /cvs/annozilla/downloads/annotations-0.4.0.a.5.xpi,v  <-- 
> annotations-0.4.0.a.5.xpi
> new revision: 1.2; previous revision: 1.1
> done
> Processing log script arguments...
> Aug 30 00:35:12  [warning] mkdir(): Permission denied 
> (/mozdev/sandbox/php/lib/ExtensionUpdateRdf.php at line 54)
> ====backtrace ====
> #0  mkdir() called at 
> [/mozdev/sandbox/php/lib/ExtensionUpdateRdf.php:54] 
> args{/usr/local/sandbox/site_public_data/www/updates/annozilla/{1a78ab42-f996-4c90-a649-4e7a2dcad5c0}, 
> 509, 1}
> #1  MD_ExtensionUpdateRdf::generate() called at 
> [/mozdev/sandbox/php/lib/Extension.php:196] args{MD_Extension}
> #2  MD_Extension->generateUpdateRdf() called at 
> [/mozdev/sandbox/php/lib/ProjectDownloadFile.php:883]
> #3  MD_ProjectDownloadFile->setPublicReleased() called at 
> [/mozdev/sandbox/php/lib/ProjectDownloadFile.php:139] args{}
> #4  MD_ProjectDownloadFile::add() called at 
> [/mozdev/sandbox/php/include/download_file_info_update.php:85] 
> args{annozilla, ., annotations-0.4.0.a.5.xpi}
> 
> Name "main::SCRIPT_URI" used only once: possible typo at 
> /usr/local/sbin/sendmail_logger line 18.
> Name "main::REMOTE_ADDR" used only once: possible typo at 
> /usr/local/sbin/sendmail_logger line 18.
> Failed to open file ::Permission denied at 
> /usr/local/sbin/sendmail_logger line 11.
> 
> Success, CVS operation completed
> 
> Matthew
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners


From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Sep  2 07:27:03 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:27:03 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Errors when updating an XPI
In-Reply-To: <48B8F937.7060407@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <48B8F937.7060407@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200809021027.03270.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Saturday 30 August 2008 03:39:35 Matthew Wilson wrote:
> Just checked in an updated version of an XPI and got:

Thanks for the report.  Sorry for the extra warning output; your commit 
succeeded normally and this warning message has been suppressed.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM  Sun Sep  7 00:24:55 2008
From: Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM (Vladimir Marek)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:24:55 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] extension not finding out it's update
Message-ID: <20080907072443.GA24363@pub>

Hi,

I finally got around to creating the structures necessary for automatic
update upgrading. At least I thought so. It works fine on Solaris/FF
2.x, but no update is found on Linux/Iceweasel and Windows/FF 3.x.

The package is here: http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.8.xpi
install.rdf mentions updateURL:
https://www.mozdev.org/p/updates/mozex/%7B01bc0112-afff-4fb5-8772-191bf35a8ffb%7D/update.rdf

update.rdf has section <em:version>1.9.9</em:version> and
<em:updateLink>http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.9.xpi</em:updateLink>

(update.rdf was created automatically by mozdev.org's system)

Unfortunately Live HTTP Headers extension does not show the
communication while updating extensions. Currently the only thing I can
think off is to attach debugger to ssl routines to see if it's getting
the proper data.

Could you please think off another way to find out why the updates
aren't working ?

Thank you
-- 
	Vlad
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Sun Sep  7 01:53:49 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:53:49 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] extension not finding out it's update
In-Reply-To: <20080907072443.GA24363@pub>
References: <20080907072443.GA24363@pub>
Message-ID: <48C3969D.60702@gmail.com>

Vladimir Marek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I finally got around to creating the structures necessary for automatic
> update upgrading. At least I thought so. It works fine on Solaris/FF
> 2.x, but no update is found on Linux/Iceweasel and Windows/FF 3.x.
>
> The package is here: http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.8.xpi
> install.rdf mentions updateURL:
> https://www.mozdev.org/p/updates/mozex/%7B01bc0112-afff-4fb5-8772-191bf35a8ffb%7D/update.rdf
>
> update.rdf has section <em:version>1.9.9</em:version> and
> <em:updateLink>http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.9.xpi</em:updateLink>
>
> (update.rdf was created automatically by mozdev.org's system)
>
> Unfortunately Live HTTP Headers extension does not show the
> communication while updating extensions. Currently the only thing I can
> think off is to attach debugger to ssl routines to see if it's getting
> the proper data.
>
> Could you please think off another way to find out why the updates
> aren't working ?
>
> Thank you
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   

By enabling the user pref extensions.logging.enabled you can see the
update logging in the error console.
See also
http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php?title=En/Setting_up_extension_development_environment&highlight=extensions.logging.enabled

On Win/FX3 the update is ignored, because it is insecure... It needs a
https link for the new xpi.

Onno
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Sun Sep  7 02:03:45 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:03:45 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] extension not finding out it's update
In-Reply-To: <48C3969D.60702@gmail.com>
References: <20080907072443.GA24363@pub> <48C3969D.60702@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C398F1.9000601@gmail.com>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Vladimir Marek wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I finally got around to creating the structures necessary for automatic
>> update upgrading. At least I thought so. It works fine on Solaris/FF
>> 2.x, but no update is found on Linux/Iceweasel and Windows/FF 3.x.
>>
>> The package is here: http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.8.xpi
>> install.rdf mentions updateURL:
>> https://www.mozdev.org/p/updates/mozex/%7B01bc0112-afff-4fb5-8772-191bf35a8ffb%7D/update.rdf
>>
>> update.rdf has section <em:version>1.9.9</em:version> and
>> <em:updateLink>http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.9.xpi</em:updateLink>
>>
>> (update.rdf was created automatically by mozdev.org's system)
>>
>> Unfortunately Live HTTP Headers extension does not show the
>> communication while updating extensions. Currently the only thing I can
>> think off is to attach debugger to ssl routines to see if it's getting
>> the proper data.
>>
>> Could you please think off another way to find out why the updates
>> aren't working ?
>>
>> Thank you
>>   
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>   
>
> By enabling the user pref extensions.logging.enabled you can see the
> update logging in the error console.
> See also
> http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php?title=En/Setting_up_extension_development_environment&highlight=extensions.logging.enabled
>
> On Win/FX3 the update is ignored, because it is insecure... It needs a
> https link for the new xpi.
>
I realize this isn't totally true: It needs either a https link for the
new xpi or an updatehash:

    RDFItemUpdater:_parseV20Update: Update for
    {01bc0112-afff-4fb5-8772-191bf35a8ffb} at
    http://downloads.mozdev.org/mozex/mozex-1.9.9.xpi ignored because it
    is insecure. updateLink  must be a https url or an updateHash must
    be specified.

I thought downloads from mozdev can also be downloaded from https,
although FX3 gives me an error when accessing https://downloads.mozdev.org/

    Secure Connection Failed
    downloads.mozdev.org uses an invalid security certificate.
    The certificate is only valid for the following names:
      www.mozdev.org , mozdev.org , svn.mozdev.org , hg.mozdev.org ,
    bugzilla.mozdev.org 
    (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

You'll probably have to add the updateHash if https fails.

Onno
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From Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM  Sun Sep  7 14:19:21 2008
From: Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM (Vladimir Marek)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:19:21 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] extension not finding out it's update
In-Reply-To: <48C398F1.9000601@gmail.com>
References: <20080907072443.GA24363@pub> <48C3969D.60702@gmail.com>
	<48C398F1.9000601@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080907211921.GB24363@pub>

> > By enabling the user pref extensions.logging.enabled you can see the
> > update logging in the error console.
> > See also
> > http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php?title=En/Setting_up_extension_development_environment&highlight=extensions.logging.enabled

Nice, I'll notify that down.

[...]

> You'll probably have to add the updateHash if https fails.

Ah. I thought it's sort of voluntary action. It fixed the issue, thank
you a lot for your help.

-- 
	Vlad
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From hodabn at utk.edu  Thu Sep 11 14:19:12 2008
From: hodabn at utk.edu (Baytiyeh, Hoda)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:19:12 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
Message-ID: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>

Hello,

I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that I can use?

Your help is highly appreciated.
Thanks,
Hoda.
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From ajvincent at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 14:27:31 2008
From: ajvincent at gmail.com (Alex Vincent)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:27:31 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
In-Reply-To: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
Message-ID: <9301ed6b0809111427s3ae62b28pba3e1587bd15fce@mail.gmail.com>

This list is for mozdev.org, not mozilla.org.  There's a significant
difference.  :-)  For mozilla.org, I suggest you look at the newsgroups
instead of a mailing list.

That said, I think a few people would be interested in replying.  I
certainly am interested.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey
> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this
> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that
> I can use?
>
> Your help is highly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Hoda.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


-- 
"The first step in confirming there is a bug in someone else's work is
confirming there are no bugs in your own."
-- Alexander J. Vincent, June 30, 2001
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 17:33:51 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:33:51 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Disabling other plugins - Is there any way to
	do that?
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0807301812r1580dedbs9292cbdab3365837@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5a086e0807301602i7716a604rfae417337c6b985@mail.gmail.com>
	<d7caf3930807301649q165339ffla07a4f71e734b269@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5a086e0807301812r1580dedbs9292cbdab3365837@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809111733s17db82b8sf0da85418b9f64df@mail.gmail.com>

Just noticed there's no way to get if an extension is enabled from
nsIExtensionManager... Could anybody help me out?
I cannot just uninstall/disable concurrent/incompatible extensions... I
obviously have to ask the user about it before! Anyone knows how to get a
value showing if an extension is enabled from its ID?

2008/7/31 Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com>

> Thank you, I'll check it out and let you know...
>
> 2008/7/31 Christopher Finke <cfinke at gmail.com>
>
> I believe this:
>>
>> http://www.xulplanet.com/references/xpcomref/ifaces/nsIExtensionManager.html#method_disableItem
>> is what you're looking for.
>>
>> (MDC doesn't have all of the nsIExtensionManager documentation.)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I lurked around all the MDC today and I did not find any answer.
>> > There are two plugins that are in DIRECT conflict with StOgame
>> > (standardogame), and I receive dozens of bug tickets every day. The
>> default
>> > answer is "Disable XXX and YYY before testing StOgame again".
>> > My idea is to disable my plugin if those are active, or to enable my
>> plugin
>> > and disable those two. Is there any way to do that?
>> > I'm sorry if it seems to be a foolish question, but I really didn't
>> manage
>> > to find anything about it...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>> > http://www.stogame.net
>> > Making Ogame a better place...
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Project_owners mailing list
>> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> http://www.stogame.net
> Making Ogame a better place...
>



-- 
Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From hodabn at utk.edu  Fri Sep 12 06:18:43 2008
From: hodabn at utk.edu (Baytiyeh, Hoda)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:18:43 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
	<9301ed6b0809111427s3ae62b28pba3e1587bd15fce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB8@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>

Hi Alex,

Thank you for your reply. It is always interesting to have more participants from different projects answering my survey. I will send it to this mailing list as soon as it is approved by my advisor and the IRB.

Thanks again.
Hoda.


-----Original Message-----
From: project_owners-bounces at mozdev.org on behalf of Alex Vincent
Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 5:27 PM
To: Mozdev Project Owners List
Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Research Project
 
This list is for mozdev.org, not mozilla.org.  There's a significant
difference.  :-)  For mozilla.org, I suggest you look at the newsgroups
instead of a mailing list.

That said, I think a few people would be interested in replying.  I
certainly am interested.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey
> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this
> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that
> I can use?
>
> Your help is highly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Hoda.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


-- 
"The first step in confirming there is a bug in someone else's work is
confirming there are no bugs in your own."
-- Alexander J. Vincent, June 30, 2001

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From firefox at maltekraus.de  Fri Sep 12 06:47:36 2008
From: firefox at maltekraus.de (Malte Kraus)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:47:36 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Disabling other plugins - Is there any way to
 do that?
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0809111733s17db82b8sf0da85418b9f64df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5a086e0807301602i7716a604rfae417337c6b985@mail.gmail.com>	<d7caf3930807301649q165339ffla07a4f71e734b269@mail.gmail.com>	<b5a086e0807301812r1580dedbs9292cbdab3365837@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5a086e0809111733s17db82b8sf0da85418b9f64df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CA72F8.1010102@maltekraus.de>

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Hash: SHA1

You have to query the rdf datasource. Just copied that function together
from the extension manager (which returns false if an add-on isn't
installed though):

function isAddonDisabled(uuid) {
  var rdfService =
Cc["@mozilla.org/rdf/rdf-service;1"].getService(Ci.nsIRDFService);
  var addon = rdfService.GetResource("urn:mozilla:item:" + uuid);

  var em =
Cc["@mozilla.org/extensions/manager;1"].getService(Ci.nsIExtensionManager);
  var ds = em.datasource;

  var appRes =
rdfService.GetResource("http://www.mozilla.org/2004/em-rdf#appDisabled");
  var appDisabled = ds.GetTarget(addon, appRes, true);
  if(appDisabled instanceof Ci.nsIRDFLiteral && appDisabled.Value == "true")
    return true;

  var userRes =
rdfService.GetResource("http://www.mozilla.org/2004/em-rdf#userDisabled");
  var userDisabled = ds.GetTarget(addon, userRes, true);
  if(userDisabled instanceof Ci.nsIRDFLiteral && userDisabled.Value ==
"true")
    return true;

  return false;
}


Malte


Marco Pivetta schrieb:
> Just noticed there's no way to get if an extension is enabled from
> nsIExtensionManager... Could anybody help me out?
> I cannot just uninstall/disable concurrent/incompatible extensions... I
> obviously have to ask the user about it before! Anyone knows how to get a
> value showing if an extension is enabled from its ID?
> 
> 2008/7/31 Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com>
> 
>> Thank you, I'll check it out and let you know...
>>
>> 2008/7/31 Christopher Finke <cfinke at gmail.com>
>>
>> I believe this:
>>> http://www.xulplanet.com/references/xpcomref/ifaces/nsIExtensionManager.html#method_disableItem
>>> is what you're looking for.
>>>
>>> (MDC doesn't have all of the nsIExtensionManager documentation.)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I lurked around all the MDC today and I did not find any answer.
>>>> There are two plugins that are in DIRECT conflict with StOgame
>>>> (standardogame), and I receive dozens of bug tickets every day. The
>>> default
>>>> answer is "Disable XXX and YYY before testing StOgame again".
>>>> My idea is to disable my plugin if those are active, or to enable my
>>> plugin
>>>> and disable those two. Is there any way to do that?
>>>> I'm sorry if it seems to be a foolish question, but I really didn't
>>> manage
>>>> to find anything about it...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>>>> http://www.stogame.net
>>>> Making Ogame a better place...
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>> http://www.stogame.net
>> Making Ogame a better place...
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Fri Sep 12 10:33:14 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:33:14 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Disabling other plugins - Is there any way to
 do	that?
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0807301602i7716a604rfae417337c6b985@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5a086e0807301602i7716a604rfae417337c6b985@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CAA7DA.4050805@heroes-addon.dk>

Are they in direct conflict with your addon or is it your addon that is 
in conflict with theirs ;-)

Marco Pivetta wrote:
> I lurked around all the MDC today and I did not find any answer.
> There are two plugins that are in DIRECT conflict with StOgame 
> (standardogame), and I receive dozens of bug tickets every day. The 
> default answer is "Disable XXX and YYY before testing StOgame again".
> My idea is to disable my plugin if those are active, or to enable my 
> plugin and disable those two. Is there any way to do that?
> I'm sorry if it seems to be a foolish question, but I really didn't 
> manage to find anything about it...
>
> -- 
> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> http://www.stogame.net
> Making Ogame a better place...
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   


From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Fri Sep 12 10:37:57 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:37:57 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
In-Reply-To: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB8@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>	<9301ed6b0809111427s3ae62b28pba3e1587bd15fce@mail.gmail.com>
	<F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB8@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
Message-ID: <48CAA8F5.3090008@heroes-addon.dk>

A similar project was done by some Danish students. They did some things 
in the project they probably shouldn't have done (such as writing to 
random mail accounts on addons.mozilla.org). Ask ahead for places you 
can. The mail they sent was:

Dear Firefox Developer

We are two students from Roskilde University Denmark, writing a masters 
thesis on the impressing and productive culture of Firefox communities. 
You are as a developer, an important part of Firefox successful open 
source team, and therefore your response is of great value to this 
thesis. The survey will take 3 minutes to complete, and the final result 
will be accessible on the first of June ? Thanks

http://www.survey-xact.dk/LinkCollector?key=FJQM2CSK9NC1

Kind regards

Sebastian Erbo Hoffmann

Mads Plesner Leck Larsen


They can be fetched at erbo at ruc.dk (for Sebastian).
Ask them what they got out of it :)

Baytiyeh, Hoda wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Thank you for your reply. It is always interesting to have more participants from different projects answering my survey. I will send it to this mailing list as soon as it is approved by my advisor and the IRB.
>
> Thanks again.
> Hoda.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: project_owners-bounces at mozdev.org on behalf of Alex Vincent
> Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 5:27 PM
> To: Mozdev Project Owners List
> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Research Project
>  
> This list is for mozdev.org, not mozilla.org.  There's a significant
> difference.  :-)  For mozilla.org, I suggest you look at the newsgroups
> instead of a mailing list.
>
> That said, I think a few people would be interested in replying.  I
> certainly am interested.
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:
>
>   
>>  Hello,
>>
>> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
>> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
>> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
>> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey
>> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this
>> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that
>> I can use?
>>
>> Your help is highly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Hoda.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>>     
>
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   


From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Fri Sep 12 10:41:50 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:41:50 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
In-Reply-To: <48CAA8F5.3090008@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>	<9301ed6b0809111427s3ae62b28pba3e1587bd15fce@mail.gmail.com>	<F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB8@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
	<48CAA8F5.3090008@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48CAA9DE.30504@heroes-addon.dk>

The reaction from the community was:
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/browse_thread/thread/399adc5bbfe2a325/b27ade8f887febda

Though mic that bastard never wrote back in it :-)



Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> A similar project was done by some Danish students. They did some 
> things in the project they probably shouldn't have done (such as 
> writing to random mail accounts on addons.mozilla.org). Ask ahead for 
> places you can. The mail they sent was:
>
> Dear Firefox Developer
>
> We are two students from Roskilde University Denmark, writing a 
> masters thesis on the impressing and productive culture of Firefox 
> communities. You are as a developer, an important part of Firefox 
> successful open source team, and therefore your response is of great 
> value to this thesis. The survey will take 3 minutes to complete, and 
> the final result will be accessible on the first of June ? Thanks
>
> http://www.survey-xact.dk/LinkCollector?key=FJQM2CSK9NC1
>
> Kind regards
>
> Sebastian Erbo Hoffmann
>
> Mads Plesner Leck Larsen
>
>
> They can be fetched at erbo at ruc.dk (for Sebastian).
> Ask them what they got out of it :)
>
> Baytiyeh, Hoda wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. It is always interesting to have more 
>> participants from different projects answering my survey. I will send 
>> it to this mailing list as soon as it is approved by my advisor and 
>> the IRB.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> Hoda.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: project_owners-bounces at mozdev.org on behalf of Alex Vincent
>> Sent: Thu 9/11/2008 5:27 PM
>> To: Mozdev Project Owners List
>> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Research Project
>>  
>> This list is for mozdev.org, not mozilla.org.  There's a significant
>> difference.  :-)  For mozilla.org, I suggest you look at the newsgroups
>> instead of a mailing list.
>>
>> That said, I think a few people would be interested in replying.  I
>> certainly am interested.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
>>> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
>>> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
>>> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my 
>>> survey
>>> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. 
>>> Is this
>>> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other 
>>> ones that
>>> I can use?
>>>
>>> Your help is highly appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hoda.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>   
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>   
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>


From k7.india at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 11:04:52 2008
From: k7.india at gmail.com (Kesavan Muthuvel)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:34:52 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
In-Reply-To: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
Message-ID: <64e311a60809121104u8c9d64epa28eec30301cb742@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hoda.,
U r most welcome to put ur survey.
I'm awaiting for the same.


On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey
> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this
> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that
> I can use?
>
> Your help is highly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Hoda.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


-- 
I never think of the future - it comes soon enough.
Albert Einstein

Kesavan M
Chennai 24
99442 30824

http://360.yahoo.com/kesavan2000in
http://kuppaigal.blogspot.com/
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 11:56:54 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:56:54 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Research Project
In-Reply-To: <64e311a60809121104u8c9d64epa28eec30301cb742@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F4B928C7BDBD9447B53F062CB74BAF64375DB5@KFSVS2.utk.tennessee.edu>
	<64e311a60809121104u8c9d64epa28eec30301cb742@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809121156h5cec33d7tad3a9e39789809eb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Hoda,
We're pleased to help out if possible, just write me if you need ;)

2008/9/12 Kesavan Muthuvel <k7.india at gmail.com>

> Hi Hoda.,
> U r most welcome to put ur survey.
> I'm awaiting for the same.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:49 AM, Baytiyeh, Hoda <hodabn at utk.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University of
>> Tennessee.  I am conducting research about what motivates people to
>> contribute to Open Source Software for free. Mozilla is one of the
>> applications I am targeting in my research. I would like to send my survey
>> to people who are involved in the development and not to the users. Is this
>> mailinglist for all the contributors in Mozilla or there are other ones that
>> I can use?
>>
>> Your help is highly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Hoda.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> I never think of the future - it comes soon enough.
> Albert Einstein
>
> Kesavan M
> Chennai 24
> 99442 30824
>
> http://360.yahoo.com/kesavan2000in
> http://kuppaigal.blogspot.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


-- 
Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 11:58:17 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:58:17 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Disabling other plugins - Is there any way to
	do that?
In-Reply-To: <48CAA7DA.4050805@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <b5a086e0807301602i7716a604rfae417337c6b985@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CAA7DA.4050805@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809121158t3e7c9745ufa833a9fe55dc7ab@mail.gmail.com>

Jesper: both ;)
We work on the same document.body.innerHTML, so one of us must "get out" ;)
Thank you Malte, will try it out =)

2008/9/12 Jesper Staun Hansen <jesper at heroes-addon.dk>

> Are they in direct conflict with your addon or is it your addon that is in
> conflict with theirs ;-)
>
> Marco Pivetta wrote:
>
>> I lurked around all the MDC today and I did not find any answer.
>> There are two plugins that are in DIRECT conflict with StOgame
>> (standardogame), and I receive dozens of bug tickets every day. The default
>> answer is "Disable XXX and YYY before testing StOgame again".
>> My idea is to disable my plugin if those are active, or to enable my
>> plugin and disable those two. Is there any way to do that?
>> I'm sorry if it seems to be a foolish question, but I really didn't manage
>> to find anything about it...
>>
>> --
>> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>> http://www.stogame.net
>> Making Ogame a better place...
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 03:19:48 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:19:48 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Survey
Message-ID: <48CB93C4.2000106@gmail.com>

I just read about this Add-on Survey on planet.mozilla, and I thought it
might be of interest to other project owners:
http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/09/12/participate-in-the-add-on-developer-survey/

Onno

From brian at mozdev.org  Sun Sep 14 03:41:02 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:41:02 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Survey
In-Reply-To: <48CB93C4.2000106@gmail.com>
References: <48CB93C4.2000106@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CCEA3E.3070803@mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> I just read about this Add-on Survey on planet.mozilla, and I thought it
> might be of interest to other project owners:
> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/09/12/participate-in-the-add-on-developer-survey/

I just want to bring your attention to 2 questions:

'Where do you host your add-on?'
Mozdev, would do in 'Other' of course.

'Additional comments'
Feel free to mention how great Mozdev is ;)

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Sun Sep 14 07:20:49 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:20:49 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
Message-ID: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>

Hi,

I'm giving a presentation next week at the Mozilla Add-ons Workshop in 
Paris. While I usually give technical talks, this one will be a 
departure from that formula and aims to give an overview of add-ons and 
how they fit in the ecosystem of Mozilla.

One part I want to devote to is the history of extension development, 
covering:

- technologies used (e.g. install.js)
- funny anecdotes
- horror stories
- tools
- motivations (e.g. I developed my extension to help my Granny do xyz)

Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of 
all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think 
would fit, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks,
- Brian

From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sun Sep 14 07:41:59 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:41:59 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48CD22B7.9070103@heroes-addon.dk>

Will the presentation be recorded or be published in any way?

Brian King wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm giving a presentation next week at the Mozilla Add-ons Workshop in 
> Paris. While I usually give technical talks, this one will be a 
> departure from that formula and aims to give an overview of add-ons 
> and how they fit in the ecosystem of Mozilla.
>
> One part I want to devote to is the history of extension development, 
> covering:
>
> - technologies used (e.g. install.js)
> - funny anecdotes
> - horror stories
> - tools
> - motivations (e.g. I developed my extension to help my Granny do xyz)
>
> Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group 
> of all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you 
> think would fit, I'd love to hear them.
>
> Thanks,
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>


From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Sun Sep 14 07:57:12 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:57:12 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48CD2648.9080306@buanzo.com.ar>

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Brian King wrote:
> Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of
> all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think
> would fit, I'd love to hear them.

I have a strange thing.

In a quickie, I created a function outside of my singleton component. This function was called
getCharPref(), and itwas defined like function getCharPref(blah,blah) {blah blah}.

Problem: Some OTHER extension was calling it. Why? I guess it had it's own getCharPref, but for some
reason MINE was being called. Was I overloading a global getCharPref? Should that even be possible?
No idea. But it's definitely interesting. I could hijack other extensions with a perfectly "safe"
extension. Gross. (re-tested with latest firefox).

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From frisco82 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 08:46:09 2008
From: frisco82 at gmail.com (Ramiro Aparicio)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:46:09 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD2648.9080306@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org> <48CD2648.9080306@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <607c3f4d0809140846q10830b4cm2a7f1c3f750ce2fc@mail.gmail.com>

Well, that is not so strange all extensions are within the same scope so
everyone can hijack other functions (it depends on the loading order, which
depends on installation order) but I learned it by the hard way I did not
create a custom function with a stange name I defined my own "eval"
function, you can imagine how everything started to crash when I added more
extensions to my installation of Firefox.
Kindly enough Mouse Gestures developers told me about that shared scope
problem when I opened a bug about our strange interactions :P

Some other stories to tell:
 + Initiallly my IDE was: Notepad + Winrar (yes I made the whole zip and
rename process every time) + TortoiseCVS, I then changed to Notepad + 7zip +
Bat + Tortoise, then Eclipse + 7zip to finally Eclipse with Ant builder,
originally I took me 5 minutes to make a xpi while now its only 20-30
seconds.
 + I will never forget the last second change about security restrictions in
RC3 a week before Firefox 3 release, everyone already had their T-shirt at
home for updating extensions to be compatible with FF3 but a week before
release hundreds of extensions developers saw their extensions broken and
with 6 days to rerelease and the review list on AMO bigger than ever.
I still love one of the comments on that bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292789#c101
+ Until my last release a couple of months ago I still was testing my
extension in Seamonkey, I thought that if it worked there I would work in
every version of Firefox.

My motivations to develop Foxgame: It was terribly boring to make a lot of
time calcs by hand and having to select an option everytime I logged in
Ogame, so I made a Greasemonkey script and some time later I was making
Foxgame as an extension.

Ramiro Aparicio

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Desarrollador de FoxGame http://foxgame.mozdev.org
Blogero aficionado en http://www.habitaquo.net


On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <
buanzo at buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

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> Brian King wrote:
> > Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of
> > all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think
> > would fit, I'd love to hear them.
>
> I have a strange thing.
>
> In a quickie, I created a function outside of my singleton component. This
> function was called
> getCharPref(), and itwas defined like function getCharPref(blah,blah) {blah
> blah}.
>
> Problem: Some OTHER extension was calling it. Why? I guess it had it's own
> getCharPref, but for some
> reason MINE was being called. Was I overloading a global getCharPref?
> Should that even be possible?
> No idea. But it's definitely interesting. I could hijack other extensions
> with a perfectly "safe"
> extension. Gross. (re-tested with latest firefox).
>
> - --
> Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
> Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
> http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
> Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sun Sep 14 09:00:56 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:00:56 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <607c3f4d0809140846q10830b4cm2a7f1c3f750ce2fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org> <48CD2648.9080306@buanzo.com.ar>
	<607c3f4d0809140846q10830b4cm2a7f1c3f750ce2fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CD3538.1090302@heroes-addon.dk>

My first (and still only) addon was inspired by FoxGame :-)
Today, it looks no where near to be inspired by FoxGame (except from 
some url checks)

Thanks mate.

Ramiro Aparicio wrote:
> Well, that is not so strange all extensions are within the same scope 
> so everyone can hijack other functions (it depends on the loading 
> order, which depends on installation order) but I learned it by the 
> hard way I did not create a custom function with a stange name I 
> defined my own "eval" function, you can imagine how everything started 
> to crash when I added more extensions to my installation of Firefox.
> Kindly enough Mouse Gestures developers told me about that shared 
> scope problem when I opened a bug about our strange interactions :P
>
> Some other stories to tell:
>  + Initiallly my IDE was: Notepad + Winrar (yes I made the whole zip 
> and rename process every time) + TortoiseCVS, I then changed to 
> Notepad + 7zip + Bat + Tortoise, then Eclipse + 7zip to finally 
> Eclipse with Ant builder, originally I took me 5 minutes to make a xpi 
> while now its only 20-30 seconds.
>  + I will never forget the last second change about security 
> restrictions in RC3 a week before Firefox 3 release, everyone already 
> had their T-shirt at home for updating extensions to be compatible 
> with FF3 but a week before release hundreds of extensions developers 
> saw their extensions broken and with 6 days to rerelease and the 
> review list on AMO bigger than ever.
> I still love one of the comments on that bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292789#c101
> + Until my last release a couple of months ago I still was testing my 
> extension in Seamonkey, I thought that if it worked there I would work 
> in every version of Firefox.
>
> My motivations to develop Foxgame: It was terribly boring to make a 
> lot of time calcs by hand and having to select an option everytime I 
> logged in Ogame, so I made a Greasemonkey script and some time later I 
> was making Foxgame as an extension.
>
> Ramiro Aparicio
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Desarrollador de FoxGame http://foxgame.mozdev.org
> Blogero aficionado en http://www.habitaquo.net
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman 
> <buanzo at buanzo.com.ar <mailto:buanzo at buanzo.com.ar>> wrote:
>
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>
>     Brian King wrote:
>     > Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best
>     group of
>     > all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that
>     you think
>     > would fit, I'd love to hear them.
>
>     I have a strange thing.
>
>     In a quickie, I created a function outside of my singleton
>     component. This function was called
>     getCharPref(), and itwas defined like function
>     getCharPref(blah,blah) {blah blah}.
>
>     Problem: Some OTHER extension was calling it. Why? I guess it had
>     it's own getCharPref, but for some
>     reason MINE was being called. Was I overloading a global
>     getCharPref? Should that even be possible?
>     No idea. But it's definitely interesting. I could hijack other
>     extensions with a perfectly "safe"
>     extension. Gross. (re-tested with latest firefox).
>
>     - --
>     Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
>     Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
>     http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
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From philip.chee at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 10:28:46 2008
From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:28:46 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1068.1221407181.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org> <48CD2648.9080306@buanzo.com.ar>
	<mailman.1068.1221407181.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gajhin$i2c$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:46:09 +0200, Ramiro Aparicio wrote:

> Some other stories to tell:
>  + Initiallly my IDE was: Notepad + Winrar (yes I made the whole zip and
> rename process every time) + TortoiseCVS, I then changed to Notepad + 7zip +
> Bat + Tortoise, then Eclipse + 7zip to finally Eclipse with Ant builder,
> originally I took me 5 minutes to make a xpi while now its only 20-30
> seconds.

That's pretty lame. I have a BAT file (and a bash script for linux
boxen) that takes less than 5 seconds. Is Eclipse+Ant that bloated?

>  + I will never forget the last second change about security restrictions in
> RC3 a week before Firefox 3 release, everyone already had their T-shirt at
> home for updating extensions to be compatible with FF3 but a week before
> release hundreds of extensions developers saw their extensions broken and
> with 6 days to rerelease and the review list on AMO bigger than ever.

Me too.

> I still love one of the comments on that bug:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=292789#c101
> + Until my last release a couple of months ago I still was testing my

Mike Shavers comment in #c100 was quite sarcastic too.

> extension in Seamonkey, I thought that if it worked there I would work in
> every version of Firefox.

Hey, don't give up on SeaMonkey yet! We are in Alpha 1 code freeze and
will be releasing SeaMonkey 2.0a1 in sync with Thunderbird 3.0b1.

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
[ ]Clones are people two.
* TagZilla 0.066.6


From roman_mir at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 14 11:03:18 2008
From: roman_mir at hotmail.com (Roman Mironenko)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:03:18 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <BAY141-W42986D83649D9657B3B18999530@phx.gbl>


So it's Saturday evening (I think), I am working on an extension, wife asks me if I wanted to do anything together and I reply, -Code review.  And she says, OK.  I think I fell of the chair.

Roman

> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:20:49 +0200
> From: brian at mozdev.org
> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm giving a presentation next week at the Mozilla Add-ons Workshop in 
> Paris. While I usually give technical talks, this one will be a 
> departure from that formula and aims to give an overview of add-ons and 
> how they fit in the ecosystem of Mozilla.
> 
> One part I want to devote to is the history of extension development, 
> covering:
> 
> - technologies used (e.g. install.js)
> - funny anecdotes
> - horror stories
> - tools
> - motivations (e.g. I developed my extension to help my Granny do xyz)
> 
> Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of 
> all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think 
> would fit, I'd love to hear them.
> 
> Thanks,
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 12:36:49 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:36:49 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <BAY141-W42986D83649D9657B3B18999530@phx.gbl>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
	<BAY141-W42986D83649D9657B3B18999530@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809141236s6282bc2amc093d10ef050caf0@mail.gmail.com>

I started from GreaseMonkey too, and developed for almost 2 years with it
(that's really awful if I look at it now! Extensions are surely more
powerful, but the GreaseMonkey's authors had a fantastic idea)
My idea was the same of Ramiro's one (I just came a while later!): I got
involved in developing extensions because of a webgame (Ogame, again...
Don't play it! It's a drug!).
And I've got to say that it is a really cool way to improve our programming
skills!

Started with notepad.exe (Yes! The one in C:\windows !)
Then moved to notepad++ after 2 or 3 months...
After that I learned using PHP and MySQL and made my horrors (MySQL queries
with terrifying subqueries, infinite loops in MySQL, no indexes in
databases, javascript loops, php crashes, firewall crashes because of
excessive http requests... All because of my mistakes :( :( :(  )
Moved to linux, started learning ssh, then moved to mozdev, started learning
CVS and it's versatility.
Anyway, failing, failing and failing again helped me out, because also if I
started with no theorical knoweledge (never learned anything about
programming at school), now I can say I'm able to do something.
It's fun to see how my programs that were crashing with 10 users online are
now supplying data to more than 4000 connected users with almost null cpu
usage on my server.
Now I have my 15 GB large database hosted on a dedicated server, payed
through the sponsors placed on my website. Community based on my addon grew
to 27000 users in no-time, developers and helpers came to tell me tips and
suggestions from every country. I must really say it has been and it still
is a great adventure!
It's fun to make addons for Firefox, but it is also a great satisfaction to
see that it's not just fun!
Marco


P.S.: Could you please cut off the "horrors" from my story? XD

2008/9/14 Roman Mironenko <roman_mir at hotmail.com>

>  So it's Saturday evening (I think), I am working on an extension, wife
> asks me if I wanted to do anything together and I reply, -Code review.  And
> she says, OK.  I think I fell of the chair.
>
> Roman
>
> > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:20:49 +0200
> > From: brian at mozdev.org
> > To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> > Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm giving a presentation next week at the Mozilla Add-ons Workshop in
> > Paris. While I usually give technical talks, this one will be a
> > departure from that formula and aims to give an overview of add-ons and
> > how they fit in the ecosystem of Mozilla.
> >
> > One part I want to devote to is the history of extension development,
> > covering:
> >
> > - technologies used (e.g. install.js)
> > - funny anecdotes
> > - horror stories
> > - tools
> > - motivations (e.g. I developed my extension to help my Granny do xyz)
> >
> > Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of
> > all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think
> > would fit, I'd love to hear them.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Brian
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
> ------------------------------
>
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>


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From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Sun Sep 14 12:51:18 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:51:18 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0809141236s6282bc2amc093d10ef050caf0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>	<BAY141-W42986D83649D9657B3B18999530@phx.gbl>
	<b5a086e0809141236s6282bc2amc093d10ef050caf0@mail.gmail.com>
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Marco Pivetta wrote:
> My idea was the same of Ramiro's one (I just came a while later!): I got
> involved in developing extensions because of a webgame (Ogame, again...
> Don't play it! It's a drug!).

Heh. I wrote Qogame. I remember talking with Ramiro about a couple features I had added to Qogame
that he thought were cool. I never released it, but it was kinda cool (if you had Empire it'd give
you lots of very useful stats, like total production per day, etc). I developed it for ogame.com.es.

Heh. We should create a "Ogame-Firefox programmers guild" :P

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 12:53:11 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:53:11 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD6B36.5050004@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
	<BAY141-W42986D83649D9657B3B18999530@phx.gbl>
	<b5a086e0809141236s6282bc2amc093d10ef050caf0@mail.gmail.com>
	<48CD6B36.5050004@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809141253o476db702k6f470d3616309da2@mail.gmail.com>

Could be a nice idea, but for that I'm sure we should use private contacts
;)
Anyway, as you can see, fun is the main ingredient for a good Addon :)

2008/9/14 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo at buanzo.com.ar>

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> Marco Pivetta wrote:
> > My idea was the same of Ramiro's one (I just came a while later!): I got
> > involved in developing extensions because of a webgame (Ogame, again...
> > Don't play it! It's a drug!).
>
> Heh. I wrote Qogame. I remember talking with Ramiro about a couple features
> I had added to Qogame
> that he thought were cool. I never released it, but it was kinda cool (if
> you had Empire it'd give
> you lots of very useful stats, like total production per day, etc). I
> developed it for ogame.com.es.
>
> Heh. We should create a "Ogame-Firefox programmers guild" :P
>
> - --
> Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
> Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
> http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
> Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From brian at mozdev.org  Sun Sep 14 14:59:51 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:59:51 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD22B7.9070103@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org> <48CD22B7.9070103@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48CD8957.7070201@mozdev.org>

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Will the presentation be recorded or be published in any way?

I will certainly be publishing my slides, but I don't know if the 
presentation will be recorded. I will inquire about it and encourage it 
if feasible.

BTW, if anyone is wondering about it, read here:
http://blog.mozbox.org/post/2008/08/13/Mozilla-Add-ons-Workshop-in-Paris-it-s-alive
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW (French only)

The goal is for it to focus on the local community, and most of the 
talks will be in French. If it is a success, it will likely happen in 
other countries.

- Brian

From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 14 23:26:13 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:26:13 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1078.1221429605.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org> <48CD22B7.9070103@heroes-addon.dk>
	<mailman.1078.1221429605.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gakv4t$1ddd$3@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Brian King wrote:
> Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
>> Will the presentation be recorded or be published in any way?
> 
> I will certainly be publishing my slides, but I don't know if the 
> presentation will be recorded. I will inquire about it and encourage it 
> if feasible.
> 
> BTW, if anyone is wondering about it, read here:
> http://blog.mozbox.org/post/2008/08/13/Mozilla-Add-ons-Workshop-in-Paris-it-s-alive 
> 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/MAOW (French only)
> 
> The goal is for it to focus on the local community, and most of the 
> talks will be in French. If it is a success, it will likely happen in 
> other countries.
> 
> - Brian

Well well.  Apparently the XUL BootCamp idea got picked up, because it 
is _exactly_ what we do, and for many years already!

Michael

From twhitema at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 10:26:32 2008
From: twhitema at gmail.com (Todd Whiteman)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev www wrapping (branding)
Message-ID: <ec041f3a0809161026h3aa73955uff16afbcf6cdfbf4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I'm having trouble turning off the mozdev site branding.

In the mozdev documentation, it states that to turn **off** branding,
include "no_wrap" in the URL:
http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc7

I've tried this, but I'm still getting the mozdev branding coming through,
example:
http://pyxpcomext.mozdev.org/tutorials/no_wrap/pyxulrunner/python_xulrunner_about.html

Is this a bug, or is there another way to turn off the wrapping for
particular www files?

Thanks,
Todd
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 10:41:14 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:41:14 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev www wrapping (branding)
In-Reply-To: <ec041f3a0809161026h3aa73955uff16afbcf6cdfbf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ec041f3a0809161026h3aa73955uff16afbcf6cdfbf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CFEFBA.9040500@gmail.com>

Todd Whiteman wrote:
> Hi, I'm having trouble turning off the mozdev site branding.
>
> In the mozdev documentation, it states that to turn *off* branding,
> include "no_wrap" in the URL:
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc7
>
> I've tried this, but I'm still getting the mozdev branding coming
> through, example:
> http://pyxpcomext.mozdev.org/tutorials/no_wrap/pyxulrunner/python_xulrunner_about.html
>
> Is this a bug, or is there another way to turn off the wrapping for
> particular www files?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd

I think the no_wrap is specified per directory, so you'll need to copy
local.conf with setting "$local_conf_no_wrap = ON;" to each subdirectory
or specify no_wrap at the first level in the path :
http://pyxpcomext.mozdev.org/no_wrap/tutorials/pyxulrunner/python_xulrunner_about.html

Onno
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From mid at freemail.hu  Wed Sep 17 07:40:18 2008
From: mid at freemail.hu (Attila Szabo)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:40:18 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] AMO -
Message-ID: <48D116D2.4030108@freemail.hu>

Do somebody know what is happening to AMO? Download counters of some
extensions jumped up to a baffling big   number ...





From brian at mozdev.org  Wed Sep 17 08:24:40 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:40 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] AMO -
In-Reply-To: <48D116D2.4030108@freemail.hu>
References: <48D116D2.4030108@freemail.hu>
Message-ID: <48D12138.1010904@mozdev.org>

Attila Szabo wrote:
> Do somebody know what is happening to AMO? Download counters of some
> extensions jumped up to a baffling big   number ...

http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/09/15/amo-statistics-and-cdn-update/

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Sep 18 01:23:24 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:23:24 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
Message-ID: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>

Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions 
or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. 
anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?

I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come 
up with much:

http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html

- Brian

From Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM  Thu Sep 18 03:06:30 2008
From: Vladimir.Marek at Sun.COM (Vladimir Marek)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:06:30 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <20080918100629.GM3598@pub>

http://mozex.mozdev.org/screenshots.html

I guess it's from Netscape navigator, but I might be easily wrong ...

-- 
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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 04:41:14 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:41:14 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <767de81b0809180441w5802676cle66338cfbdfcd57b@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:
> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions or
> themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. anything pre
> m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>
> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come up
> with much:
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html

I still have Netscape Communicator installed on my computer for ldap
browsing, so if you want any specific screenshot and extension in mind
and communicator is good enough, I can install it and create it for
you...

If not, you could always install Navigator yourself?

Onno

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 04:46:42 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:46:42 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0809180441w5802676cle66338cfbdfcd57b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
	<767de81b0809180441w5802676cle66338cfbdfcd57b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <767de81b0809180446y312b8f20ofdee355899cad4ef@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Onno Ekker <o.e.ekker at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:
>> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions or
>> themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. anything pre
>> m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>>
>> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come up
>> with much:
>>
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
>
> I still have Netscape Communicator installed on my computer for ldap
> browsing, so if you want any specific screenshot and extension in mind
> and communicator is good enough, I can install it and create it for
> you...

That is, if i can remember how to add add-ons to Navigator. Thought it
was somewhere under Edit -> Preferences, but haven't found the option
yet.

Onno

From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 04:58:18 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:58:18 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gatfnd$g46$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Brian King wrote:
> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions 
> or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. 
> anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
> 
> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come 
> up with much:
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
> 
> - Brian

Hi Brian,

Will the following link be of any help to you?

http://multizilla.mozdev.org/screenshots.html

If not, sorry. It's all we got.

Cheers,
Michael

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 05:33:06 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:33:06 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <gatfnd$g46$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gatfnd$g46$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <767de81b0809180533x6876aca4ye0b303637c25a739@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Michael Vincent van Rantwijk,
MultiZilla <mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brian King wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions or
>> themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. anything pre
>> m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>>
>> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come up
>> with much:
>>
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
>>
>> - Brian
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Will the following link be of any help to you?
>
> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/screenshots.html
>
> If not, sorry. It's all we got.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael

Be careful, Michael. Brian's probably gonna show those screenshots on
his introductory speech to the add-ons bootcamp in Paris, when he`s
telling all about developer's horror stories :-)

Onno

From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 06:30:17 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:30:17 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1111.1221741197.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gatfnd$g46$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.1111.1221741197.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gatl3u$12g6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Michael Vincent van Rantwijk,
> MultiZilla <mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Brian King wrote:
>>> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions or
>>> themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. anything pre
>>> m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>>>
>>> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come up
>>> with much:
>>>
>>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
>>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
>>>
>>> - Brian
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Will the following link be of any help to you?
>>
>> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/screenshots.html
>>
>> If not, sorry. It's all we got.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
> 
> Be careful, Michael. Brian's probably gonna show those screenshots on
> his introductory speech to the add-ons bootcamp in Paris, when he`s
> telling all about developer's horror stories :-)
> 
> Onno

Despite what people might think, Brian and I are on the same part of 
this planet, have the same ideas and share the same passion for Mozilla 
  (based) software, and of course mozdev.org  He is therefor free to use 
our screen shots in any way shape or form because I do trust Brian to do 
good with anything he does and thus... if there's anything I can do to 
help him help other monkey lovers ;)

Good luck Brian!
Michael

From philip at aleytys.pc.my  Thu Sep 18 07:03:45 2008
From: philip at aleytys.pc.my (Philip Chee)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:03:45 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gatn22$18os$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:23:24 +0200, Brian King wrote:
> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions 
> or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. 
> anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
> 
> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come 
> up with much:
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html

Flashblock has a couple.
<http://flashblock.mozdev.org/screenshots.html>

But did you try:
<http://images.google.com/images?q=%22mozilla+suite%22+-seamonkey&um=1&hl=en&sa=G&imgsz=xxlarge>

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
[ ]Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right, But Three Lefts Do.
* TagZilla 0.066.6


From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Sep 18 08:02:47 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:02:47 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <gatl3u$12g6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gatfnd$g46$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>	<mailman.1111.1221741197.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gatl3u$12g6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D26D97.5010302@mozdev.org>

Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Despite what people might think, Brian and I are on the same part of 
> this planet, have the same ideas and share the same passion for Mozilla 
>  (based) software, and of course mozdev.org  He is therefor free to use 
> our screen shots in any way shape or form because I do trust Brian to do 
> good with anything he does and thus... if there's anything I can do to 
> help him help other monkey lovers ;)

Indeed, I am glad all us monkeys are on the same page!

> Good luck Brian!

Thanks.

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Sep 18 08:16:41 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:16:41 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <gatn22$18os$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gatn22$18os$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D270D9.1070606@mozdev.org>

Philip Chee wrote:
> But did you try:
> <http://images.google.com/images?q=%22mozilla+suite%22+-seamonkey&um=1&hl=en&sa=G&imgsz=xxlarge>

Sure, but I wanted images I was allowed use, so Creative Commons seemed 
like a logical choice.

http://search.creativecommons.org

Not many results, seems like the internets has a short memory!

Thanks to everyone for their contributions .. keep 'em coming.

- Brian

From massey at stlouis-shopper.com  Thu Sep 18 08:49:40 2008
From: massey at stlouis-shopper.com (massey)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:49:40 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D27894.1070303@stlouis-shopper.com>

You might be able to use some things in here: 
http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/kiosk/www/
There are /images folder and a html page in /gtoolbar about when they 
removed toolbar grippies ftrom around 2002.

Jim

Brian King wrote:

> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their 
> extensions or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla 
> Suite (i.e. anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>
> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not come 
> up with much:
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
>
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

From massey at stlouis-shopper.com  Thu Sep 18 09:15:21 2008
From: massey at stlouis-shopper.com (massey)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:15:21 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D27894.1070303@stlouis-shopper.com>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
	<48D27894.1070303@stlouis-shopper.com>
Message-ID: <48D27E99.5030402@stlouis-shopper.com>

Here is the bug for removing toolbar grippies:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112534#c44

People went crazy. I rant in comment 73 :-[
I bet the outcry surprised Jan.

Jim

massey wrote:

> You might be able to use some things in here: 
> http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/kiosk/www/
> There are /images folder and a html page in /gtoolbar about when they 
> removed toolbar grippies ftrom around 2002.
>
> Jim
>
> Brian King wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their 
>> extensions or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla 
>> Suite (i.e. anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?
>>
>> I've been trying to find some on Mozdev but surprisingly have not 
>> come up with much:
>>
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Netscape%20Navigator.html
>> http://www.mozdev.org/projects/applications/Mozilla.html
>>
>> - Brian
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 09:38:35 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:38:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D27E99.5030402@stlouis-shopper.com>
Message-ID: <89614.75848.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brian,

The Chameleon project has some old screenshots that include some Netscape images.

http://chameleon.mozdev.org/screenshots.html

David

From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Thu Sep 18 09:37:52 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:37:52 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1106.1221726219.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gau050$23rc$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Brian King wrote:

> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their 
> extensions or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite 

I would have thought themes.mozdev.org would have plenty of old 
screenshots of themes; as for extensions, XULMine's screenshot gives 
nothing away although it does in fact run on the Mozilla Suite ;-)

From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Thu Sep 18 09:42:56 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:42:56 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Netscape / Mozilla Suite screenshots
In-Reply-To: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
References: <48D20FFC.7090706@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D28510.70904@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

Brian King wrote:
> Does anyone have any old screenshots hanging around of their extensions 
> or themes running on Netscape Navigator or the Mozilla Suite (i.e. 
> anything pre m/B / Phoenix / Firebird)?

http://annozilla.mozdev.org/screenshots/moz/annozilla_0.4/

Matthew

From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 15:58:57 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
Message-ID: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone here for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla applications and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things we've done on the site over the last year.

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old

David

From pete at mozdevgroup.com  Thu Sep 18 17:54:26 2008
From: pete at mozdevgroup.com (Pete Collins)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:54:26 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48D2F842.2010500@mozdevgroup.com>



David Boswell wrote:
> Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone here for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla applications and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things we've done on the site over the last year.
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old
>
>   

Wow, can't believe it's 8 years ...

Seems more like a lifetime ago.   :-)

--pete

-- 
Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc.
www.mozdevgroup.com
Mozilla Software Development Solutions
tel: 1-719-302-5811
fax: 1-719-302-5813


From ocramius at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 18:32:20 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:32:20 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <48D2F842.2010500@mozdevgroup.com>
References: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48D2F842.2010500@mozdevgroup.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809181832t66bc8d87vf203631e9f80f5ed@mail.gmail.com>

I'm here since one year ago, and started using mozdev actively 2 months
ago... But I must admit it's a grat service :)
Keep on, it's really a great help for us! :)
Marco

2008/9/19 Pete Collins <pete at mozdevgroup.com>

>
>
> David Boswell wrote:
>
>> Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone
>> here for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla
>> applications and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things
>> we've done on the site over the last year.
>>
>> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old
>>
>>
>>
>
> Wow, can't believe it's 8 years ...
>
> Seems more like a lifetime ago.   :-)
>
> --pete
>
> --
> Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc.
> www.mozdevgroup.com
> Mozilla Software Development Solutions
> tel: 1-719-302-5811
> fax: 1-719-302-5813
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 01:05:24 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:05:24 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1119.1221778745.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.1119.1221778745.57136.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gb2aql$2mf5$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

David Boswell wrote:
> Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone here for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla applications and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things we've done on the site over the last year.
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old
> 
> David

I hope to be here for next 8 years, but not without saying thank you to 
these great guys who made everything possible.

Thank you Pete!  Thank you David!  Thank you to the rest of the (former) 
crew!

p.s. I even setup a VPN/SSL tunnel to be here and say thank you :-)

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From thomas at thurman.org.uk  Sat Sep 20 19:07:46 2008
From: thomas at thurman.org.uk (Thomas Thurman)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:07:46 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] String mapping database
Message-ID: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>

Is there a way for an addon to keep a mapping from strings to strings on 
disk and query it, as you might with Berkely DB?  I could use an 
enormous JS literal object, but that would stay in memory in an 
inelegant and wasteful way.

Sorry if there's something obvious I've missed-- I spent a while looking 
around but didn't find anything.

peace

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Thurman, tthurman at gnome, http://blogs.gnome.org/tthurman
"A bearded pirate appears, catches sight of the dwarf and runs away.

From ocramius at gmail.com  Sat Sep 20 20:25:06 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:25:06 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] String mapping database
In-Reply-To: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>
References: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809202025ve576994hc389c10c634dd186@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!
I store up to 20 Mb of data with my addon for Ogame through Storage:
http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Storage

Take a look at it, it saved me from building up complex data structures as
the one you told of (I was already working on a folder-structured database
before discovering Storage!).
Very powerful, very very fast, just be careful with multiple connections to
your SQLite database and also with transactions... Transactions seem to be a
bit buggy...
Also remember that Insert queries are really slow on SQLite without using
transactions. I tested it on Firefox3 and 1000 inserts take up to 25 seconds
of time without transactions. The same inserts take 0.1 or less seconds with
transactions, but there's always the risk of having non-committed
transactions...

Here you can also find the SQL syntax used in Storage:
http://www.sqlite.org/lang.html

Hope it can be useful ;)

2008/9/21 Thomas Thurman <thomas at thurman.org.uk>

> Is there a way for an addon to keep a mapping from strings to strings on
> disk and query it, as you might with Berkely DB?  I could use an
> enormous JS literal object, but that would stay in memory in an
> inelegant and wasteful way.
>
> Sorry if there's something obvious I've missed-- I spent a while looking
> around but didn't find anything.
>
> peace
>
> Thomas
> --
> Thomas Thurman, tthurman at gnome, http://blogs.gnome.org/tthurman
> "A bearded pirate appears, catches sight of the dwarf and runs away.
> _______________________________________________
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> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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From brian at mozdev.org  Sun Sep 21 09:46:37 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:46:37 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Anecdotes about Extension Development
In-Reply-To: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
References: <48CD1DC1.9090808@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D67A6D.7050507@mozdev.org>

FYI .. the talk went really well and my slides are online:

http://brian.kingsonline.net/talk/?p=339

Thanks for your input.

- Brian

Brian King wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm giving a presentation next week at the Mozilla Add-ons Workshop in 
> Paris. While I usually give technical talks, this one will be a 
> departure from that formula and aims to give an overview of add-ons and 
> how they fit in the ecosystem of Mozilla.
> 
> One part I want to devote to is the history of extension development, 
> covering:
> 
> - technologies used (e.g. install.js)
> - funny anecdotes
> - horror stories
> - tools
> - motivations (e.g. I developed my extension to help my Granny do xyz)
> 
> Mozdev has been around since 2000 and this seems like the best group of 
> all to ask for contributions. So if you have any stories that you think 
> would fit, I'd love to hear them.
> 
> Thanks,
> - Brian
> 


From dmcad77 at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 11:28:25 2008
From: dmcad77 at hotmail.com (D. Cad.)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:28:25 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
In-Reply-To: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>
References: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>
Message-ID: <BAY117-W42029D07C2173AF2962098A0480@phx.gbl>


I made wpcite.mozdev.org for a Jonathan who is SEO and analytics specialist; he is really into the theme,

i wonder for my next addons and applications, is it "modest" to include

adsense words inside the Xul code?  i really would enjoy making money from

my applications without selling them.

If not, then is it possible to include the urchin "adsense" code inside my mozdev.org addon space?


thanks.
_________________________________________________________________
Descarg? ya gratis y viv? la experiencia Windows Live.
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 13:32:01 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:32:01 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-W42029D07C2173AF2962098A0480@phx.gbl>
References: <20080921020746.GA29514@dorothy.members.linode.com>
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It is possible to earn money through mozdev:
http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev

But inserting Adsense into XUL would require an approval by Google and its
ad network (please read the AdSense T&C).
Inserting HTML iframes could fix this problems anyway, because it's code on
your website ;)


Yes, you can, but you need

2008/9/21 D. Cad. <dmcad77 at hotmail.com>

>
> I made wpcite.mozdev.org for a Jonathan who is SEO and analytics
> specialist; he is really into the theme,
>
> i wonder for my next addons and applications, is it "modest" to include
>
> adsense words inside the Xul code?  i really would enjoy making money from
>
> my applications without selling them.
>
> If not, then is it possible to include the urchin "adsense" code inside my
> mozdev.org addon space?
>
>
> thanks.
> _________________________________________________________________
> Descarg? ya gratis y viv? la experiencia Windows Live.
> http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/latam/index.html
> _______________________________________________
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> Project_owners at mozdev.org
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From dmcad77 at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 18:18:44 2008
From: dmcad77 at hotmail.com (D. Cad.)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:18:44 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
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It works perfect,

i just added 

$local_conf_serve_as_is = ON;
$local_conf_nav_off = ON;

and then configured the layout as i want.

btw,

the Iframe should be the best choice for adsense inside my addon
but i assume that FF 3.0.* has some issues with Iframe security,
because it does not support writing iframes from JS code.

Marco, do you know where to find "Css skins"

tnx
________________________________
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:32:01 +0200
> From: ocramius at gmail.com
> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
> 
> It is possible to earn money through mozdev:
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev
> 
> But inserting Adsense into XUL would require an approval by Google and its ad network (please read the AdSense T&C).
> Inserting HTML iframes could fix this problems anyway, because it's code on your website ;)
> 
> 
> Yes, you can, but you need
> 
> 2008/9/21 D. Cad. 
> 
> I made wpcite.mozdev.org for a Jonathan who is SEO and analytics specialist; he is really into the theme,
> 
> i wonder for my next addons and applications, is it "modest" to include
> 
> adsense words inside the Xul code?  i really would enjoy making money from
> 
> my applications without selling them.
> 
> If not, then is it possible to include the urchin "adsense" code inside my mozdev.org addon space?
> 
> 
> thanks.
> _________________________________________________________________
> Descarg? ya gratis y viv? la experiencia Windows Live.
> http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/latam/index.html
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> http://www.stogame.net
> Making Ogame a better place...

_________________________________________________________________
Discover the new Windows Vista
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE

From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 19:20:46 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 04:20:46 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
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Writing iframes from js should always be possible, it's just a node like
another :)
Css skins? Well, I usually don't work very much with CSS, but I use other
people's skins... all made for Ogame, but also working on mozdev...
http://www.stogame.net/wiki/index.php/(it)_Skin

You can find the CSS file at "$skin_url/formate.css", where skin url is the
direct link written in the many skins listed on that page...
Hope you find 'em useful, but it's all stuff about planets, space and
ships...

2008/9/22 D. Cad. <dmcad77 at hotmail.com>

>
> It works perfect,
>
> i just added
>
> $local_conf_serve_as_is = ON;
> $local_conf_nav_off = ON;
>
> and then configured the layout as i want.
>
> btw,
>
> the Iframe should be the best choice for adsense inside my addon
> but i assume that FF 3.0.* has some issues with Iframe security,
> because it does not support writing iframes from JS code.
>
> Marco, do you know where to find "Css skins"
>
> tnx
> ________________________________
> > Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:32:01 +0200
> > From: ocramius at gmail.com
> > To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] AdSense embedded in addons?
> >
> > It is possible to earn money through mozdev:
> > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev
> >
> > But inserting Adsense into XUL would require an approval by Google and
> its ad network (please read the AdSense T&C).
> > Inserting HTML iframes could fix this problems anyway, because it's code
> on your website ;)
> >
> >
> > Yes, you can, but you need
> >
> > 2008/9/21 D. Cad.
> >
> > I made wpcite.mozdev.org for a Jonathan who is SEO and analytics
> specialist; he is really into the theme,
> >
> > i wonder for my next addons and applications, is it "modest" to include
> >
> > adsense words inside the Xul code?  i really would enjoy making money
> from
> >
> > my applications without selling them.
> >
> > If not, then is it possible to include the urchin "adsense" code inside
> my mozdev.org addon space?
> >
> >
> > thanks.
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Descarg? ya gratis y viv? la experiencia Windows Live.
> > http://www.descubrewindowslive.com/latam/index.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> > http://www.stogame.net
> > Making Ogame a better place...
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Discover the new Windows Vista
> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From tthurman at gnome.org  Sat Sep 20 21:08:07 2008
From: tthurman at gnome.org (Thomas Thurman)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:08:07 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] String mapping database
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Ysgrifennodd Marco Pivetta:
> Hi!
> I store up to 20 Mb of data with my addon for Ogame through Storage:
> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/Storage

Just what I was looking for!  Thank you.

T

-- 
Thomas Thurman, tthurman at gnome, http://blogs.gnome.org/tthurman
a selection of

From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 22 19:59:54 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:59:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
Message-ID: <38013.21769.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Original Message ----
> From: "HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla" <bugs4hj at yahoo.com>
> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:05:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
> 
> David Boswell wrote:
> > Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone here 
> for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla applications 
> and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things we've done on the 
> site over the last year.
> > 
> > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old
> > 
> > David
> 
> I hope to be here for next 8 years, but not without saying thank you to 
> these great guys who made everything possible.
> 
> Thank you Pete!  Thank you David!  Thank you to the rest of the (former) 
> crew!
> 
> p.s. I even setup a VPN/SSL tunnel to be here and say thank you :-)
> 

Hey, welcome back HJ! Hope you have been safe.

Eric


      

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 22 23:28:35 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:28:35 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Eric H. Jung wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla" <bugs4hj at yahoo.com>
>> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:05:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
>>
>> David Boswell wrote:
>>> Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month and I wanted to thank everyone here 
>> for helping grow the community of people building and using Mozilla applications 
>> and extensions.  I also just blogged about some of the things we've done on the 
>> site over the last year.
>>> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Mozdev-Turns-8-Years-Old
>>>
>>> David
>> I hope to be here for next 8 years, but not without saying thank you to 
>> these great guys who made everything possible.
>>
>> Thank you Pete!  Thank you David!  Thank you to the rest of the (former) 
>> crew!
>>
>> p.s. I even setup a VPN/SSL tunnel to be here and say thank you :-)
>>
> 
> Hey, welcome back HJ! Hope you have been safe.
> 
> Eric

Jo Eric!  Thanks man.  How was the party?

Say who else is a mozdev.org board member these days?

Oh and apparently I also forgot Douglas E. Warner, who's been doing a 
great job, I'm told; most of the features I kept bugging Pete with are 
now there. Sorry Doug.


-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 22 23:32:26 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:32:26 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
Message-ID: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

I can login to the Drupal admin page, but there are way to many 
settings; confusing the heck out of me.  All I want, need really, is a 
blog to talk about the things we are working on, but that won't happen 
until 2009 if I have to make it work (the backlog with bugs is killing me).

Raj can't do much since he can't even login as administrator, or 
whatever rights he need.  Can someone please help we with this or is 
there a quick/short guide to make things "just work"?

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Sep 23 00:47:07 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:47:07 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Say who else is a mozdev.org board member these days?

http://board.mozdev.org/members.html

> Oh and apparently I also forgot Douglas E. Warner, who's been doing a 
> great job, I'm told; most of the features I kept bugging Pete with are 
> now there. Sorry Doug.

Yes, Doug is the main man now for site development.

You can follow the latest Mozdev happenings in our blog:

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Sep 23 00:55:31 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:55:31 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
In-Reply-To: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48D8A0F3.8020008@mozdev.org>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> I can login to the Drupal admin page, but there are way to many 
> settings; confusing the heck out of me.  All I want, need really, is a 
> blog to talk about the things we are working on, but that won't happen 
> until 2009 if I have to make it work (the backlog with bugs is killing me).
> 
> Raj can't do much since he can't even login as administrator, or 
> whatever rights he need.  Can someone please help we with this or is 
> there a quick/short guide to make things "just work"?

http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDrupalSetup

If you are already setup, all you have to do is write a new blog post 
and it will show up at:

http://multizilla.mozdev.org/drupal/blog

You can link to that page from anywhere in your project (it is already 
in the left nav of drupal pages).

Nothing really more to it, or did you have something else more specific 
in mind?

- Brian

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 01:44:15 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:44:15 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20.1222156034.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.20.1222156034.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbaa78$2mcd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Brian King wrote:
> HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>> Say who else is a mozdev.org board member these days?
> 
> http://board.mozdev.org/members.html

Well well. New faces. Nice page.  Good work!


>> Oh and apparently I also forgot Douglas E. Warner, who's been doing a 
>> great job, I'm told; most of the features I kept bugging Pete with are 
>> now there. Sorry Doug.
> 
> Yes, Doug is the main man now for site development.
> 
> You can follow the latest Mozdev happenings in our blog:
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog

Oh and Doug about this: "No baby yet, so another normal week of 
development."...  you might want to read my latest blog post over at: 
http://multizilla.mozdev.org/weblog/weblog.php ;)

Thanks Brian!

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 01:48:26 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:48:26 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1222156536.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.21.1222156536.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbaaf3$2mcd$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Brian King wrote:
> HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>> I can login to the Drupal admin page, but there are way to many 
>> settings; confusing the heck out of me.  All I want, need really, is a 
>> blog to talk about the things we are working on, but that won't happen 
>> until 2009 if I have to make it work (the backlog with bugs is killing 
>> me).
>>
>> Raj can't do much since he can't even login as administrator, or 
>> whatever rights he need.  Can someone please help we with this or is 
>> there a quick/short guide to make things "just work"?
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDrupalSetup
> 
> If you are already setup, all you have to do is write a new blog post 
> and it will show up at:

So can I, and if yes how, remove comments and blog entries?

> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/drupal/blog
> 
> You can link to that page from anywhere in your project (it is already 
> in the left nav of drupal pages).
> 
> Nothing really more to it, or did you have something else more specific 
> in mind?

Well. We want to change/control the page layout, this to match it with 
our own site layout.  That, apparently, might be a problem (do we really 
need to developing our own Drupal theme?).

Thank you Brian!

/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 02:21:06 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:21:06 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org> <48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <767de81b0809230221t724063bbmf9ead24bda60da8d@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:
> HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>>
>> Say who else is a mozdev.org board member these days?
>
> http://board.mozdev.org/members.html
>
>> Oh and apparently I also forgot Douglas E. Warner, who's been doing a
>> great job, I'm told; most of the features I kept bugging Pete with are now
>> there. Sorry Doug.
>
> Yes, Doug is the main man now for site development.

Besides the board members, you can also see site members:

http://www.mozdev.org/members.html

I've been searching for the differences and found five:
- Douglas Warner and Chris Neale are not on the board
- Myk Melez and Nigel Howard are only on the board
And last but not least:
- Eric Jung is only once on the board, but twice site member!

From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 02:37:01 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:37:01 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org> <48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <767de81b0809230237n7383d648nec18aacfe9b1fea9@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:
> HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>>
>> Say who else is a mozdev.org board member these days?
>
> http://board.mozdev.org/members.html
>
>> Oh and apparently I also forgot Douglas E. Warner, who's been doing a
>> great job, I'm told; most of the features I kept bugging Pete with are now
>> there. Sorry Doug.
>
> Yes, Doug is the main man now for site development.
>
> You can follow the latest Mozdev happenings in our blog:
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog
>
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

I just replied to this thread, but forgot to congratulate mozdev, the
board, the site members and the project owners. I only just started
some small extensions myself, but have been using extensions from this
place for quite a while now, so also as a Firefox and Thunderbird user
I'd like to thank all of you for making this place available and
contributing to it...

Congrats and keep up the good work!

Onno

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Sep 23 05:53:31 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:53:31 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0809230221t724063bbmf9ead24bda60da8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gba28t$1v91$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<48D89EFB.6050702@mozdev.org>
	<767de81b0809230221t724063bbmf9ead24bda60da8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D8E6CB.7090401@mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:
> Besides the board members, you can also see site members:
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/members.html
> 
> I've been searching for the differences and found five:
> - Douglas Warner and Chris Neale are not on the board
> - Myk Melez and Nigel Howard are only on the board
> And last but not least:
> - Eric Jung is only once on the board, but twice site member!

Fine investigative skills! We try to keep our process and roles as open 
and transparent as possible. If you think this can be improved, let us know.

See also:
http://www.mozdev.org/about.html
http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Rob-Lord-Joins-Mozdev-Board-Directors

- Brian

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Sep 23 06:35:43 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gbaa78$2mcd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<mailman.20.1222156034.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbaa78$2mcd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200809230935.48460.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Tuesday 23 September 2008 04:44:15 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog
>
> Oh and Doug about this: "No baby yet, so another normal week of
> development."... ?you might want to read my latest blog post over at:
> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/weblog/weblog.php ;)

Well, I try to keep the Mozdev blog about mozdev-y things since it gets 
syndicated on Planet Mozilla; the visible impact of our new baby coming on the 
community will be that there won't be much Mozdev development and decreased 
support for a couple weeks.  So I could see how that would make it sound like 
the baby is intruding on my work, but we (my wife and I) are definitely 
excited that our 2nd one will be here soon.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Sep 23 06:46:48 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:46:48 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
In-Reply-To: <gbaaf3$2mcd$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.21.1222156536.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbaaf3$2mcd$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200809230946.57613.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Tuesday 23 September 2008 04:48:26 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Raj can't do much since he can't even login as administrator, or
> whatever rights he need. ?Can someone please help we with this or is
> there a quick/short guide to make things "just work"?

The easiest way to give Raj admin rights would be for you to give the "Project 
Contributor" role the same access as the "Project Owner" in Drupal.

To do this, login to your Drupal, goto "Administer" then "Access Control".  
Check all the boxes under the "Project Contributor" role to match the "Project 
Owner" role and click "Save" at the bottom of the page.  This should give any 
project contributors (like Raj) ability to change things in your Drupal setup.

> So can I, and if yes how, remove comments and blog entries?

When you're logged in, clicking on "Create content" on the right, then "Blog 
entry" will create a new blog post.

To administer posts or comments, click on "Administer" then "Comments" for 
comments and "Administer" then "Content" for blog posts.

> Well. We want to change/control the page layout, this to match it with
> our own site layout. ?That, apparently, might be a problem (do we really
> need to developing our own Drupal theme?).

Right now changing the theming is a bit of a problem; we have a bug open about 
that [1].  When we first setup Drupal the mindset was more of "it's another 
tool like bugzilla," so we weren't as concerned with allowing projects to 
theme it like their sites since it would definitely be completely different 
from themeing their main site on Mozdev.

The easiest alternative to get your blog posts themed with your site while 
using Drupal for content management would be to syndicate the blog posts on 
your project page using the RSS feed; but this would still require going to 
the un-themeed Drupal site for leaving/reading comments.

-Doug

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18428

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Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 07:59:07 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <767de81b0809230221t724063bbmf9ead24bda60da8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <378913.54492.qm@web33004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Besides the board members, you can also see site members:
> 
> http://www.mozdev.org/members.html

Just to clarify, the members page linked to above is just for people who have write access to the files that live at www.mozdev.org.  The current list of board members is on the about page at

http://www.mozdev.org/about.html

The board.mozdev.org/members.html page is a little out of date (I don't think it has Rob Lord on it) so we should update that soon.

David

From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 08:41:54 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael V. van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:41:54 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.26.1222176959.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<mailman.20.1222156034.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gbaa78$2mcd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.26.1222176959.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbb2mc$29tg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 04:44:15 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>>> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog
>> Oh and Doug about this: "No baby yet, so another normal week of
>> development."...  you might want to read my latest blog post over at:
>> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/weblog/weblog.php ;)
> 
> Well, I try to keep the Mozdev blog about mozdev-y things since it gets 
> syndicated on Planet Mozilla; the visible impact of our new baby coming on the 
> community will be that there won't be much Mozdev development and decreased 
> support for a couple weeks.  So I could see how that would make it sound like 
> the baby is intruding on my work, but we (my wife and I) are definitely 
> excited that our 2nd one will be here soon.

You should, and make sure you and your wife enjoy every single second of 
it, because there won't be a second change.  Not for this baby.  And 
don't you worry about me (us project owners) but take care of your wife 
and your first child!

Cheers,
/HJ

From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 08:43:53 2008
From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael V. van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:43:53 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gbb2mc$29tg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.18.1222138804.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<mailman.20.1222156034.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gbaa78$2mcd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.26.1222176959.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbb2mc$29tg$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbb2q1$29tg$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Michael V. van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Douglas E. Warner wrote:
>> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 04:44:15 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>>>> http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog
>>> Oh and Doug about this: "No baby yet, so another normal week of
>>> development."...  you might want to read my latest blog post over at:
>>> http://multizilla.mozdev.org/weblog/weblog.php ;)
>>
>> Well, I try to keep the Mozdev blog about mozdev-y things since it 
>> gets syndicated on Planet Mozilla; the visible impact of our new baby 
>> coming on the community will be that there won't be much Mozdev 
>> development and decreased support for a couple weeks.  So I could see 
>> how that would make it sound like the baby is intruding on my work, 
>> but we (my wife and I) are definitely excited that our 2nd one will be 
>> here soon.
> 
> You should, and make sure you and your wife enjoy every single second of 
> it, because there won't be a second change.  Not for this baby.  And 
> don't you worry about me (us project owners) but take care of your wife 
> and your first child!
> 
> Cheers,
> /HJ

Ah great!  This is what you get from a remote login (I am trying to 
solve a problem) and using your sons browser/mail client (:

Whatever...

From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 12:45:15 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] locale-specific Firefox launching problem: WEIRD
Message-ID: <108939.17274.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

With my extension installed, launching firefox by clicking on a local .html file causes a dialog "Windows cannot find the file ..." but then the file loads in Firefox just fine after dismissing the dialog. Uninstalling my extension solves the problem. There are no error console messages. This only occurs when the Firefox locale is NOT en-US.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Eric


      

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 11:08:46 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:08:46 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
In-Reply-To: <mailman.47.1222177629.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>	<mailman.21.1222156536.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gbaaf3$2mcd$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.47.1222177629.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbdvll$1th6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 September 2008 04:48:26 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
>> Raj can't do much since he can't even login as administrator, or
>> whatever rights he need.  Can someone please help we with this or is
>> there a quick/short guide to make things "just work"?
> 
> The easiest way to give Raj admin rights would be for you to give the "Project 
> Contributor" role the same access as the "Project Owner" in Drupal.
> 
> To do this, login to your Drupal, goto "Administer" then "Access Control".  
> Check all the boxes under the "Project Contributor" role to match the "Project 
> Owner" role and click "Save" at the bottom of the page.  This should give any 
> project contributors (like Raj) ability to change things in your Drupal setup.

Done. Thanks.

>> So can I, and if yes how, remove comments and blog entries?
> 
> When you're logged in, clicking on "Create content" on the right, then "Blog 
> entry" will create a new blog post.
> 
> To administer posts or comments, click on "Administer" then "Comments" for 
> comments and "Administer" then "Content" for blog posts.
> 
>> Well. We want to change/control the page layout, this to match it with
>> our own site layout.  That, apparently, might be a problem (do we really
>> need to developing our own Drupal theme?).
> 
> Right now changing the theming is a bit of a problem; we have a bug open about 
> that [1].  When we first setup Drupal the mindset was more of "it's another 
> tool like bugzilla," so we weren't as concerned with allowing projects to 
> theme it like their sites since it would definitely be completely different 
> from themeing their main site on Mozdev.
> 
> The easiest alternative to get your blog posts themed with your site while 
> using Drupal for content management would be to syndicate the blog posts on 
> your project page using the RSS feed; but this would still require going to 
> the un-themeed Drupal site for leaving/reading comments.

I'm not sure I understand this.  I want people to be able to read the 
blogs we have in the usual way, and via Drupal pages.  Adding comments 
should only be possible on the drupal pages, so how exactly should we 
setup this?

Thanks!

/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Wed Sep 24 11:24:01 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:24:01 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal setup
In-Reply-To: <gbdvll$1th6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gba2g4$2057$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.47.1222177629.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbdvll$1th6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <200809241424.06627.silfreed@silfreed.net>

On Wednesday 24 September 2008 14:08:46 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand this. ?I want people to be able to read the
> blogs we have in the usual way, and via Drupal pages. ?Adding comments
> should only be possible on the drupal pages, so how exactly should we
> setup this?

Yes, it should be possible to do exactly what you describe, you just can't 
"theme" the Drupal pages right now.

You would modify whatever page is displaying your blogs right now to 
"syndicate" your Drupal blog.  I have some example code that I use on the 
www.mozdev.org site you can take a look at [1] that should mostly work as-is 
with only minor modifications (such as changing the cache directory).

-Doug

[1] http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/www/www/news/blogfeed.php

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From axel at pike.org  Wed Sep 24 11:31:09 2008
From: axel at pike.org (Axel Hecht)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:31:09 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] locale-specific Firefox launching problem:
	WEIRD
In-Reply-To: <mailman.50.1222199127.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.50.1222199127.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbe11e$20u3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Eric H. Jung wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> With my extension installed, launching firefox by clicking on a local
> .html file causes a dialog "Windows cannot find the file ..." but
> then the file loads in Firefox just fine after dismissing the dialog.
> Uninstalling my extension solves the problem. There are no error
> console messages. This only occurs when the Firefox locale is NOT
> en-US.
> 
> Any ideas?

Not with that amount of information. Is your extension localized, which 
is it, is there a source, did you enable chrome errors, etc.

Axel

From dmcad77 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 24 12:38:28 2008
From: dmcad77 at hotmail.com (D. Cad.)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:38:28 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] more weird problems
In-Reply-To: <gbe11e$20u3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.50.1222199127.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbe11e$20u3$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <BAY117-W5203AAD0E0E6A97B6741AAA0450@phx.gbl>


i'm having some issues to the Portable Firefox 
some extensions seems not to close their opened RDF files
then if FF hangs for some reason, the entire RDF tree inside FF
aka passwords, addon installs, and on goes corrupted.

I wonder what could we do about it because many times you have
to close the FF for one single page and a few times i get corrupted
the tree and have to rebuild.

I can assume that this issue multiplies when i work in unix,
i use FEBE a lot to backup and recover, but it does not
work among any versions and it does not restore passwords ok,

BTW, 8 years of FF is amazing, i'm pretty happy for all of this. Cheers

documentation about the sources could be greater. i never went

into the mozilla sources since it's kinda cryptic thing,

Keep up the good work, i'll help as much as i can.


D.
_________________________________________________________________
Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger?
http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline

From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Sep 26 08:31:08 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:31:08 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
Message-ID: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar>

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Hi team! Any ideas on how to make a DNS request from my extension? I'm attempting to look up some
details via TXT record...

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Fri Sep 26 08:34:05 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:34:05 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>

I think I saw some code in Eric Jungs foxyproxy that did that. Ofcause I 
could remember wrongly.

Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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> Hi team! Any ideas on how to make a DNS request from my extension? I'm attempting to look up some
> details via TXT record...
>
> - --
> Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
> Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
> http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
> Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Sep 26 13:57:23 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:57:23 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar> <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48DD4CB3.3020809@buanzo.com.ar>

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Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> I think I saw some code in Eric Jungs foxyproxy that did that. Ofcause I
> could remember wrongly.

You got it right:

var DNSService = CC['@mozilla.org/network/dns-service;1'].getService(CI.nsIDNSService);
    var DNSRecord = DNSService.resolve(DNSService.myHostName, true);

Let's see how useful this is for what I want :) - Thanks!

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Fri Sep 26 14:03:19 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:03:19 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <48DD4CB3.3020809@buanzo.com.ar>
References: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar> <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
	<48DD4CB3.3020809@buanzo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <48DD4E17.2020903@buanzo.com.ar>

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Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> var DNSService = CC['@mozilla.org/network/dns-service;1'].getService(CI.nsIDNSService);
>     var DNSRecord = DNSService.resolve(DNSService.myHostName, true);
> 
> Let's see how useful this is for what I want :) - Thanks!

Sadly, It can only resolve hostnames to IP addresses. I need to be able to do queries on other
record types (TXT and/or SRV, specifically)...

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From vn at outwit.com  Fri Sep 26 10:08:32 2008
From: vn at outwit.com (Vivien Nicolas)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:08:32 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar> <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48DD1710.1010806@outwit.com>

The moz DNS Service don't do what you want?

http://www.xulplanet.com/references/xpcomref/ifaces/nsIDNSService.html

Jesper Staun Hansen a ?crit :
> I think I saw some code in Eric Jungs foxyproxy that did that. Ofcause 
> I could remember wrongly.
>
> Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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>> Hi team! Any ideas on how to make a DNS request from my extension? 
>> I'm attempting to look up some
>> details via TXT record...
>>
>> - --
>> Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
>> Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
>> http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
>> Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>   
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>


From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Sat Sep 27 06:50:40 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:50:40 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <48DD1710.1010806@outwit.com>
References: <48DD003C.3070900@buanzo.com.ar> <48DD00ED.4080701@heroes-addon.dk>
	<48DD1710.1010806@outwit.com>
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Vivien Nicolas wrote:
> The moz DNS Service don't do what you want?

Thanks, but no. I noticed it yesterday, but it does only resolve hostnames to IP addresses.

- --
Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman
Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html
Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sun Sep 28 22:22:36 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:22:36 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
Message-ID: <48E0661C.3070307@heroes-addon.dk>

Hello,

Considering this code http://pastebin.mozilla.org/544425 once I run 
test.showbox(), then the window-watcher will keep existing even if the 
window is closed. Question however is... How to I reuse the window 
watcher to reopen the window?
I want to make what can be described as "persistent window when 
possible". (that would be reuse the window if  it hasn't been closed yet)

After the window is closed the stuff available that the window-watcher 
is leaving behind is:
*Methods of prototype: *addEventListener, alert, atob, back, blur, btoa, 
captureEvents, clearInterval, clearTimeout, close, confirm, 
disableExternalCapture, dispatchEvent, dump, enableExternalCapture, 
find, focus, forward, getAttention, getAttentionWithCycleCount, 
getComputedStyle, getSelection, home, maximize, minimize, moveBy, 
moveTo, open, openDialog, postMessage, print, prompt, releaseEvents, 
removeEventListener, resizeBy, resizeTo, restore, routeEvent, scroll, 
scrollBy, scrollByLines, scrollByPages, scrollTo, setCursor, 
setInterval, setResizable, setTimeout, showModalDialog, sizeToContent, 
stop, updateCommands
*Fields of prototype: *STATE_MAXIMIZED, STATE_MINIMIZED, STATE_NORMAL, 
browserDOMWindow, closed, controllers, crypto, defaultStatus, 
directories, document, frameElement, frames, fullScreen, globalStorage, 
history, location, locationbar, menubar, name, opener, pageXOffset, 
pageYOffset, parent, personalbar, pkcs11, screen, scrollMaxX, 
scrollMaxY, scrollX, scrollY, scrollbars, self, sessionStorage, status, 
statusbar, toolbar, top, window, windowState
*Unreachables of prototype: *applicationCache, content, innerHeight, 
innerWidth, length, navigator, outerHeight, outerWidth, screenX, 
screenY, title

None of these seems to allow the window to be reopened. (except 
restore(), but that seems related to the general window restore).

Other info:
var watcher = 
Components.classes["@mozilla.org/embedcomp/window-watcher;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIWindowWatcher); 

Stuffz available:
*Methods: *QueryInterface, getChromeForWindow, getNewAuthPrompter, 
getNewPrompter, getWindowByName, getWindowEnumerator, openWindow, 
registerNotification, setWindowCreator, unregisterNotification
*Fields: *activeWindow


Any ideas?





From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Mon Sep 29 03:21:01 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:21:01 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
In-Reply-To: <mailman.100.1222665763.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.100.1222665763.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gbqa6d$2hue$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:

> How to I reuse the window watcher to reopen the window?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Once a window is closed, it stays 
closed. If it's your window you could always hide and show it instead. 
(Thunderbird's message compose window does this.)

From dmcad77 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 29 16:49:10 2008
From: dmcad77 at hotmail.com (D. Cad.)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:49:10 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
In-Reply-To: <gbqa6d$2hue$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.100.1222665763.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gbqa6d$2hue$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <BAY117-W56577B220F85FE235CB8D1A0400@phx.gbl>


You should try chrome dialogs instead of chrome windows,
those are opened one after another and probably
the Firefox 3 forbids you to reuse them as i saw before,
but using modal dialogs the chrome box is opened
only once.

----------------------------------------
> From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk
> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:21:01 +0100
> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
> 
> Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> 
>> How to I reuse the window watcher to reopen the window?
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean here. Once a window is closed, it stays 
> closed. If it's your window you could always hide and show it instead. 
> (Thunderbird's message compose window does this.)
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> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners

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From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 29 18:26:03 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
Message-ID: <801234.81483.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




> Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> > var DNSService = 
> CC['@mozilla.org/network/dns-service;1'].getService(CI.nsIDNSService);
> >     var DNSRecord = DNSService.resolve(DNSService.myHostName, true);
> > 
> > Let's see how useful this is for what I want :) - Thanks!
> 
> Sadly, It can only resolve hostnames to IP addresses. I need to be able to do 
> queries on other
> record types (TXT and/or SRV, specifically)...

Buanzo, you could always open a socket connection to the DNS server and craft your own TXT, SRV, etc. packets.

Eric


      

From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar  Mon Sep 29 18:33:12 2008
From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:33:12 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <801234.81483.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <801234.81483.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E181D8.20702@buanzo.com.ar>

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Eric H. Jung wrote:
> Buanzo, you could always open a socket connection to the DNS server and craft your own TXT, SRV, etc. packets.

Yes, that's what I'm planning on doing, but... sounds horrible.

- --
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Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Mon Sep 29 18:34:01 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:34:01 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] DNS Requests?
In-Reply-To: <801234.81483.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <801234.81483.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E18209.3020109@heroes-addon.dk>

Eric H. Jung wrote:
>
>   
>> Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
>>     
>>> var DNSService = 
>>>       
>> CC['@mozilla.org/network/dns-service;1'].getService(CI.nsIDNSService);
>>     
>>>     var DNSRecord = DNSService.resolve(DNSService.myHostName, true);
>>>
>>> Let's see how useful this is for what I want :) - Thanks!
>>>       
>> Sadly, It can only resolve hostnames to IP addresses. I need to be able to do 
>> queries on other
>> record types (TXT and/or SRV, specifically)...
>>     
>
> Buanzo, you could always open a socket connection to the DNS server and craft your own TXT, SRV, etc. packets.
>
> Eric
>
>   
Remember in that case to provide the possibility to allow users to 
select their own DNS server as some places have closed DNS ports 
outgoing and only allow ex. a company dns server

From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Mon Sep 29 18:39:37 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:39:37 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
In-Reply-To: <BAY117-W56577B220F85FE235CB8D1A0400@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.100.1222665763.987.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gbqa6d$2hue$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<BAY117-W56577B220F85FE235CB8D1A0400@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48E18359.9090400@heroes-addon.dk>

Accepted that it wasn't possible the way I wanted, so I made changed to 
chrome://global/content/alerts/alert.xul with a timeout and other reuse 
stuff and saved it to my add-on.

D. Cad. wrote:
> You should try chrome dialogs instead of chrome windows,
> those are opened one after another and probably
> the Firefox 3 forbids you to reuse them as i saw before,
> but using modal dialogs the chrome box is opened
> only once.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>   
>> From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk
>> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:21:01 +0100
>> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
>> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Reuse of window-watcher windows
>>
>> Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> How to I reuse the window watcher to reopen the window?
>>>       
>> I'm not sure what you mean here. Once a window is closed, it stays 
>> closed. If it's your window you could always hide and show it instead. 
>> (Thunderbird's message compose window does this.)
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>     
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Discover the new Windows Vista
> http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>   


From ocramius at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 02:54:52 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:54:52 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Servers under pressure?
Message-ID: <b5a086e0809300254p4cf1f6dcjb7d47eb97e067e68@mail.gmail.com>

Just noticed that something is really slowing down mozdev.org servers (cvs,
http... anything!). I took a look at the awstats, but obviously data are not
updated...
Is something DDoSing mozdev or is some kind of mainteinance operation being
applied at the servers?
I hope it's not a DDoS... It would be a shame to attack an open-source
directory!

-- 
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http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Tue Sep 30 06:56:48 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:56:48 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Servers under pressure?
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0809300254p4cf1f6dcjb7d47eb97e067e68@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b5a086e0809300254p4cf1f6dcjb7d47eb97e067e68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E23020.5030401@heroes-addon.dk>

Marco Pivetta wrote:
> Just noticed that something is really slowing down mozdev.org 
> <http://mozdev.org> servers (cvs, http... anything!). I took a look at 
> the awstats, but obviously data are not updated...
> Is something DDoSing mozdev or is some kind of mainteinance operation 
> being applied at the servers?
> I hope it's not a DDoS... It would be a shame to attack an open-source 
> directory!
>
> -- 
> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> http://www.stogame.net
> Making Ogame a better place...

It looks sharp and fresh now.