From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  1 23:26:17 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:26:17 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Congratulations to Doug and Tiffany
Message-ID: <gc1pfu$lpi$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

I tried to be here earlier, but was somehow blocked from visiting 
mozdev.org   This time everything seems to be fine so let me be the 
first to congratulate Doug and Tiffany with their newborn "Jared Douglas".

Take your time "daddy" :-)

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From ocramius at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 05:18:07 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:18:07 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Congratulations to Doug and Tiffany
In-Reply-To: <gc1pfu$lpi$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gc1pfu$lpi$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0810020518s65b6a49dh7b8d55a29f1209fa@mail.gmail.com>

Nice one Doug!
Enjoy it, I already know you will :)

2008/10/2 HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla <bugs4hj at yahoo.com>

> I tried to be here earlier, but was somehow blocked from visiting
> mozdev.org   This time everything seems to be fine so let me be the first
> to congratulate Doug and Tiffany with their newborn "Jared Douglas".
>
> Take your time "daddy" :-)
>
> --
> I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
> Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
> http://www.livestrong.org
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Oct  3 10:30:33 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:30:33 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Congratulations to Doug and Tiffany
In-Reply-To: <gc1pfu$lpi$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gc1pfu$lpi$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48E656B9.7020004@silfreed.net>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> I tried to be here earlier, but was somehow blocked from visiting 
> mozdev.org   This time everything seems to be fine so let me be the 
> first to congratulate Doug and Tiffany with their newborn "Jared Douglas".
> 
> Take your time "daddy" :-)

Thanks for the well wishes.  Mom and Jared are both doing very well; everyone 
is trying to get adjusted to their new schedules and roles (ie, Jocelyn as 
"big sister").

We're all back home, but I imagine it will be a little bit before things are 
back to normal.  Look for Mozdev updates to resume the week after next, probably.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sat Oct  4 19:19:41 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:19:41 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] A XUL problem when using overflow and collapsed
Message-ID: <48E8243D.6030505@heroes-addon.dk>

Hello,

Do this and you'll know what I am talking about:
1. Open https://www.heroes-addon.dk/files/addon/preview/raid/raid.xul
2. Adjust the height of the window so a vertical scrollbar is visible 
(or you probably wont see it)
3. Click "Kommende raids" and/or "Afsluttede raids"
4. Note that the height of the <vbox> which has a overflow:auto; style 
seems to expand the height of the vbox with 100px.


Question now is: Why does the most parent vbox become so big?

From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sat Oct  4 21:27:13 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:27:13 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] A XUL problem when using overflow and collapsed
In-Reply-To: <48E8243D.6030505@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <48E8243D.6030505@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48E84221.4090900@heroes-addon.dk>

Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Do this and you'll know what I am talking about:
> 1. Open https://www.heroes-addon.dk/files/addon/preview/raid/raid.xul
> 2. Adjust the height of the window so a vertical scrollbar is visible 
> (or you probably wont see it)
> 3. Click "Kommende raids" and/or "Afsluttede raids"
> 4. Note that the height of the <vbox> which has a overflow:auto; style 
> seems to expand the height of the vbox with 100px.
>
>
> Question now is: Why does the most parent vbox become so big?
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>


Using hidden instead of collapsed and changing a few other things for 
the caption seems to fix it.

From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct  5 10:14:52 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:14:52 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS lock for annozilla
Message-ID: <48E8F60C.5030003@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

Hi,

   A CVS checkin this morning seemed to hang during the "Processing log 
script arguments..." stage, so I Ctrl-C'ed after a few minutes. Now 
further checkin attempts show "waiting for cvs's lock in 
/cvs/annozilla/src/content/annozilla" - can someone clean this up for me 
please?

Thanks,

Matthew

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Sun Oct  5 10:21:16 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:21:16 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS lock for annozilla
In-Reply-To: <48E8F60C.5030003@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <48E8F60C.5030003@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <48E8F78C.7040200@silfreed.net>

Matthew Wilson wrote:
>   A CVS checkin this morning seemed to hang during the "Processing log 
> script arguments..." stage, so I Ctrl-C'ed after a few minutes. Now 
> further checkin attempts show "waiting for cvs's lock in 
> /cvs/annozilla/src/content/annozilla" - can someone clean this up for me 
> please?

Should be fixed up.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct  5 10:48:35 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:48:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] CVS lock for annozilla
In-Reply-To: <48E8F78C.7040200@silfreed.net>
References: <48E8F60C.5030003@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<48E8F78C.7040200@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <48E8FDF3.2090303@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Matthew Wilson wrote:
>>   A CVS checkin this morning seemed to hang during the "Processing log 
>> script arguments..." stage, so I Ctrl-C'ed after a few minutes. Now 
>> further checkin attempts show "waiting for cvs's lock in 
>> /cvs/annozilla/src/content/annozilla" - can someone clean this up for 
>> me please?
> 
> Should be fixed up.

Great, thanks for the quick response.

Matthew

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  6 00:02:14 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:02:14 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal proposal and a question
Message-ID: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Anyone here using Drupal for their WiKi?  If yes, how did you manage to 
change the layout of it?  Is that even possible?

If not; I would like to propose a Drupal setup change, one that enables 
us to load the CSS files from the project, rather than: /drupal/..

<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/aggregator/aggregator.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/node/node.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/poll/poll.css";</style>

<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/system/defaults.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/system/system.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/modules/user/user.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/files/www/geshifilter/geshifilter-languages-8c8030bd.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/sites/all/modules/geshifilter/geshifilter.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/sites/all/modules/zmod/zmod.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/sites/all/themes/mozdev/style.css";</style>
<style type="text/css" media="all">@import 
"/drupal/sites/all/themes/mozdev/common.css";</style>

This way we can at least control the layout, hoping that the (X)HTML 
validation errors are not part of the Drupal pages/templates because 
they just don't seem to validate properly.

Also, is the WiKi TOC generated by Drupal?  I mean there is no way going 
back to the main WiKi page?

Thanks,
/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Oct  7 10:15:29 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:15:29 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
Message-ID: <48EB9931.8020906@mozdev.org>

Hi,

I am having some issues and hope project owners have experienced 
something similar and found reasonable workarounds.

SCENARIO
A Firefox extension that opens a modal window, with Flash content 
embedded. That window in turn opens another window with a browser for 
web content. The browser window is sized to only fill some of the screen 
space to allow viewing and access to the flash content under. Note that 
putting the flash and web content in a XUL stack is not an option 
because the web content gets distorted.

ISSUES

1) On Windows I can use the 'dependent' flag with window.open/openDialog 
when opening the web window. This allows me to click Flash content while 
keeping the web content on top.
However on Mac, 'dependent' is not functional (by design), nor 
alwaysRaised. Is there any workaround to make the 2nd window stay on top 
while allowing click access to the window under?

2) (Windows) The Flash window should be modal when opened, but using the 
modal flag means it is only modal to the opener. Other windows can be 
accessed still. Is there any way to make a new window modal to *all* 
open Firefox windows?

3) Modal works even different on Mac ... it is modal *system side* and 
does not allow access to any open applications. But you can still access 
their menus. In my new window, can I override the Firefox menubar and/or 
the menubar of other applications?

3) window.fullscreen is not implemented on Mac.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370857
Any ways to emulate it? Or failing that, disallow click on the menu or 
dock? Or some other reasonable solution?

Thanks,
- Brian

From massey at stlouis-shopper.com  Wed Oct  8 06:07:03 2008
From: massey at stlouis-shopper.com (massey)
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
In-Reply-To: <48EB9931.8020906@mozdev.org>
References: <48EB9931.8020906@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48ECB077.60708@stlouis-shopper.com>

For mac(to limit ui access) you might need to make an xpcom component 
that gives you access to this: 
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2062.html

For Windows I think you can get some way to locking things up by using 
the nsIWindowsRegistryKey: 
http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Accessing_the_Windows_Registry_Using_XPCOM

These might help for something like locking things up for a kid safe 
browser.

Jim

Brian King wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am having some issues and hope project owners have experienced 
> something similar and found reasonable workarounds.
>
> SCENARIO
> A Firefox extension that opens a modal window, with Flash content 
> embedded. That window in turn opens another window with a browser for 
> web content. The browser window is sized to only fill some of the 
> screen space to allow viewing and access to the flash content under. 
> Note that putting the flash and web content in a XUL stack is not an 
> option because the web content gets distorted.
>
> ISSUES
>
> 1) On Windows I can use the 'dependent' flag with 
> window.open/openDialog when opening the web window. This allows me to 
> click Flash content while keeping the web content on top.
> However on Mac, 'dependent' is not functional (by design), nor 
> alwaysRaised. Is there any workaround to make the 2nd window stay on 
> top while allowing click access to the window under?
>
> 2) (Windows) The Flash window should be modal when opened, but using 
> the modal flag means it is only modal to the opener. Other windows can 
> be accessed still. Is there any way to make a new window modal to 
> *all* open Firefox windows?
>
> 3) Modal works even different on Mac ... it is modal *system side* and 
> does not allow access to any open applications. But you can still 
> access their menus. In my new window, can I override the Firefox 
> menubar and/or the menubar of other applications?
>
> 3) window.fullscreen is not implemented on Mac.
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370857
> Any ways to emulate it? Or failing that, disallow click on the menu or 
> dock? Or some other reasonable solution?
>
> Thanks,
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>

From nbjayme at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  8 17:16:39 2008
From: nbjayme at yahoo.com (Nathaniel Jayme)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
In-Reply-To: <48EB9931.8020906@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <648905.61496.qm@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

this seems to work on GNU/Linux:

<html>
<body>
   Hello
   <input type="button" value="Clickme" onclick="udf_bClicked();" />
   <script type="text/javascript">
      var udv_bCanBlur = false;
      function udf_bClicked(){
         udv_bCanBlur = true;
      }
      function udf_bFocus(){
         if (udv_bCanBlur) return;
         window.focus();
      }
      window.addEventListener("blur",udf_bFocus,true);
    </script>
</body>
</html>


--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:

> From: Brian King <brian at mozdev.org>
> Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
> To: project_owners at mozdev.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 10:15 AM
> Hi,
> 
> I am having some issues and hope project owners have
> experienced 
> something similar and found reasonable workarounds.
> 
> SCENARIO
> A Firefox extension that opens a modal window, with Flash
> content 
> embedded. That window in turn opens another window with a
snipped.....


      

From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Thu Oct  9 20:12:19 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:12:19 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Either calling a function from chrome or
Message-ID: <48EEC813.4000800@heroes-addon.dk>

JS code in addon: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/551714
XUL code opened in window and processed by addon code above: 
http://pastebin.mozilla.org/551717

Results in:
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired inline!
Fired DOMContentLoaded!
Target!
Fired onload!

The order seems to be:
1. inline
2. DOMContentLoaded
3. onload=""

So inline code should be in place... However line 14 in the JS code 
results in
   "Error: event.originalTarget.defaultView.whopzer is not a function"
If I try to do the same in JSShell with a globalevent (var globalevent 
outside and globalevent = event inside) and do 
globalevent.originalTarget.defaultView.whopzer("test\n") then it dumps 
"Fired test\n"
So alright, I go ahead a put EventListeners on the doc at line 12 
(#document) and 13 (<window>). These doesn't fire at all.

Any ideas to getting the inline function whopzer fired from the addon?


From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Thu Oct  9 20:28:32 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:28:32 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Either calling a function from chrome or
In-Reply-To: <48EEC813.4000800@heroes-addon.dk>
References: <48EEC813.4000800@heroes-addon.dk>
Message-ID: <48EECBE0.1000708@heroes-addon.dk>

 > So alright, I go ahead a put EventListeners on the doc at line 12 
(#document) and 13 (<window>). These doesn't fire at all.

I can note that changing "load" to "click" makes it work right as it was 
for "click". Its just this darn "load" that doesn't work.

From steve at visitsteve.com  Fri Oct 10 10:53:08 2008
From: steve at visitsteve.com (Steve Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:53:08 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] AOM nomination help...
Message-ID: <4EC78252-93CA-42AD-8FDB-89960AB2ABE6@visitsteve.com>

Hi all,

I know it's bad form to request a review of an AOM nomination here,  
but I have some unusual circumstances.

I am one of the developers of Add-Art, a plugin that replaces ads  
with art.  We've been working on this for years, just got it FF3  
compatible, etc.  It's running and doing well.  http://add-art.org

I learned today that Doritos is making an ad blocker that replaces  
ads with image searches, etc all wrapped in a Doritos colored  
border.  The Doritos plugin isn't released yet, but appears to be  
coming out soon.
http://interactivemarketingtrends.blogspot.com/2008/10/replace-all- 
page-ads-with-doritos-ad.html

I wont go into how I feel about Doritos making an Ad Blocker here.

I'd just like to remove as many barriers between Add-Art and users  
before this Doritos plugin comes out.  So I very humbly request...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6846

Also, I am making a site called "onlythebetterstuff.com" that will be  
a portal to AdBlockPlus, Add-Art, ProWebSurfer and other plugins that  
have similar functionality, but are open source and non-commercial.   
If you have any suggestions for plugins please send them my way.

Thanks!

Steve

--
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http://visitsteve.com
Eyebeam Senior Fellow
http://eyebeam.org




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From steve at visitsteve.com  Fri Oct 10 11:15:31 2008
From: steve at visitsteve.com (Steve Lambert)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:15:31 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] =?utf-8?q?AOM_nomination_help=2E=2E=2E?=
In-Reply-To: <4EC78252-93CA-42AD-8FDB-89960AB2ABE6@visitsteve.com>
References: <4EC78252-93CA-42AD-8FDB-89960AB2ABE6@visitsteve.com>
Message-ID: <8a74c8a0dd48562d7bc16f51a664c52b@localhost>


Also I should say I'm not sure if this video is a proposal or promoting
something that is coming out. Because the site doesn't exist, I am
skeptical, however I'm trying to play it safe...

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:53:08 -0400, Steve Lambert <steve at visitsteve.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I know it's bad form to request a review of an AOM nomination here,
> but I have some unusual circumstances.
> 
> I am one of the developers of Add-Art, a plugin that replaces ads
> with art.  We've been working on this for years, just got it FF3
> compatible, etc.  It's running and doing well.  http://add-art.org
> 
> I learned today that Doritos is making an ad blocker that replaces
> ads with image searches, etc all wrapped in a Doritos colored
> border.  The Doritos plugin isn't released yet, but appears to be
> coming out soon.
> http://interactivemarketingtrends.blogspot.com/2008/10/replace-all-
> page-ads-with-doritos-ad.html
> 
> I wont go into how I feel about Doritos making an Ad Blocker here.
> 
> I'd just like to remove as many barriers between Add-Art and users
> before this Doritos plugin comes out.  So I very humbly request...
> 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6846
> 
> Also, I am making a site called "onlythebetterstuff.com" that will be
> a portal to AdBlockPlus, Add-Art, ProWebSurfer and other plugins that
> have similar functionality, but are open source and non-commercial.
> If you have any suggestions for plugins please send them my way.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Steve
> 
> --
> Steve Lambert
> http://visitsteve.com
> Eyebeam Senior Fellow
> http://eyebeam.org
-- 

Steve

--
portfolio - http://visitsteve.com
senior fellow - http://eyebeam.org


From o.e.ekker at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 14:49:56 2008
From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:49:56 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Bug with command key in extension on Mac OS X
Message-ID: <gcr71v$12ve$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Hi,

I have adopted this very simple Thunderbird project called ThreadKey,
that adds a key assignment to thread and unthread messages. This works,
but as it seems, on Mac OS it works a bit too good: A user reported that
when he's in the Quick Search box, he can't search for a 't' or 'u',
because my extension "steals" them.

I don't understand why my keys can't be typed there on Mac OS, but can
be typed on Windows. I have looked inside Thunderbird's jars to see what
happens there for a simliar key ('g'), if the command get disabled when
focus changes to another element, but I couldn't find it.

I can probably work around this, by adding an observer and disabling the
key, but I don't understand why it is needed for my keys and why I can't
find it for other keys. Am I doing something wrong, or do I look at the
wrong place to see how other keys are handled?

If you need to look at the source to help me, it's here:
<http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/threadkey/src/chrome/content/threadkey/mailWindowOverlayThreadKey.xul?rev=1.3>

Onno

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 02:28:55 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:58:55 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] use putty to execute command on remote machine
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is it possible to use Putty for port forwarding ssh connection and then
send/receive remote machine commands from JavaScript?
If yes, please give me some information how to start :)
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 02:31:13 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:31:13 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] use putty to execute command on remote machine
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0810120231j1f5e8bb0q5e92d31d9263278c@mail.gmail.com>

It would be simpler to directly connect to ssh, don't you think? :)

2008/10/12 joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to use Putty for port forwarding ssh connection and then
> send/receive remote machine commands from JavaScript?
> If yes, please give me some information how to start :)
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 02:32:22 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:02:22 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] use putty to execute command on remote machine
In-Reply-To: <b5a086e0810120231j1f5e8bb0q5e92d31d9263278c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5a086e0810120231j1f5e8bb0q5e92d31d9263278c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810120232l50a19fc1pee2d306518548059@mail.gmail.com>

No, how can I do that ?

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com> wrote:

> It would be simpler to directly connect to ssh, don't you think? :)
>
> 2008/10/12 joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is it possible to use Putty for port forwarding ssh connection and then
>> send/receive remote machine commands from JavaScript?
>> If yes, please give me some information how to start :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
> http://www.stogame.net
> Making Ogame a better place...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 02:34:53 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:04:53 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] use putty to execute command on remote machine
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810120232l50a19fc1pee2d306518548059@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5a086e0810120231j1f5e8bb0q5e92d31d9263278c@mail.gmail.com>
	<23d9f6b20810120232l50a19fc1pee2d306518548059@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810120234u6aeba6dbve2a1bf7bba2214ca@mail.gmail.com>

I want to send and receive commands from remote machine in my extension. You
mean that it is possible to connect to remote machine directly from
JavaScript !

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

> No, how can I do that ?
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It would be simpler to directly connect to ssh, don't you think? :)
>>
>> 2008/10/12 joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use Putty for port forwarding ssh connection and then
>>> send/receive remote machine commands from JavaScript?
>>> If yes, please give me some information how to start :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>> http://www.stogame.net
>> Making Ogame a better place...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Sun Oct 12 12:20:38 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:20:38 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Bug with command key in extension on Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <gcr71v$12ve$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gcr71v$12ve$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gctim9$2c1h$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Onno Ekker wrote:

>I don't understand why my keys can't be typed there on Mac OS.
>
Because our Carbon implementation on the Mac sucks. It didn't anticipate 
having a typing key as a menu shortcut, so the menubar steals (captures) 
all keys that are listed on shortcuts. TB2 works around this by using 
#ifdef so that the keys aren't specified on the menuitems. SeaMonkey 
works around this by using platform-specific overlays. IIRC the new 
Cocoa menubar on TB3 won't be quite so bad.

From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Sun Oct 12 12:32:26 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:32:26 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev update.rdf files
Message-ID: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Is there an easy way to tweak the maxversion in the update.rdf file? I 
don't really want to have to commit a new XPI with new version 
information if there's a better way :-)

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Sun Oct 12 13:10:34 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev update.rdf files
In-Reply-To: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48F259BA.8000105@silfreed.net>

No there isn't currently, sorry.

-Doug

Neil wrote:
> Is there an easy way to tweak the maxversion in the update.rdf file? I 
> don't really want to have to commit a new XPI with new version 
> information if there's a better way :-)

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Sun Oct 12 16:24:03 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:24:03 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev update.rdf files
In-Reply-To: <mailman.41.1223842244.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.41.1223842244.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gcu0uj$isu$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:

> Neil wrote:
>
>> Is there an easy way to tweak the maxversion in the update.rdf file? 
>> I don't really want to have to commit a new XPI with new version 
>> information if there's a better way :-)
>
> No there isn't currently, sorry.

OK, so as a follow-up, does mozdev place any restrictions on the 
maxversion like AMO does?

From ocramius at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 18:17:00 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:17:00 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev update.rdf files
In-Reply-To: <gcu0uj$isu$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.41.1223842244.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gcu0uj$isu$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0810121817l4c13c8a5ma3a3c43b796afa47@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, you can set what you want in your RDFs :)

2008/10/13 Neil <neil at parkwaycc.co.uk>

> Douglas E. Warner wrote:
>
>  Neil wrote:
>>
>>  Is there an easy way to tweak the maxversion in the update.rdf file? I
>>> don't really want to have to commit a new XPI with new version information
>>> if there's a better way :-)
>>>
>>
>> No there isn't currently, sorry.
>>
>
> OK, so as a follow-up, does mozdev place any restrictions on the maxversion
> like AMO does?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Oct 13 08:00:06 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:00:06 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal proposal and a question
In-Reply-To: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48F36276.2050805@silfreed.net>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Anyone here using Drupal for their WiKi?  If yes, how did you manage to 
> change the layout of it?  Is that even possible?

Right now, it's not very easy to modify the style of Drupal pages.

> If not; I would like to propose a Drupal setup change, one that enables 
> us to load the CSS files from the project, rather than: /drupal/..
[snip]
> This way we can at least control the layout, hoping that the (X)HTML 
> validation errors are not part of the Drupal pages/templates because 
> they just don't seem to validate properly.

I think loading a project CSS file from the Mozdev theme for Drupal is a good 
idea; I've added bug#20075 to track this idea.

If there are validation errors with Drupal pages we'll need to bring them up 
with the respective upstream projects after figuring out what's wrong.

> Also, is the WiKi TOC generated by Drupal?  I mean there is no way going 
> back to the main WiKi page?

I don't believe Drupal's wiki is currently setup to have a breadcrumb trail to 
get you back from where you've been.  A ToC is supported to give links to 
headings within the same page (see Mozdev Docs [2]).  Otherwise, getting back 
to the "main wiki page" is typically just achieved by clicking on the "wiki" 
link in the left nav bar.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding your usage?

-Doug

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20075
[2] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs

-- 
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Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Oct 13 08:01:15 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:01:15 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev update.rdf files
In-Reply-To: <gcu0uj$isu$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gctjca$2dp4$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>	<mailman.41.1223842244.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gcu0uj$isu$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48F362BB.9060601@silfreed.net>

Neil wrote:
> OK, so as a follow-up, does mozdev place any restrictions on the 
> maxversion like AMO does?

No, we do minimal parsing of the versions provided by our projects; we don't 
check for "valid" version numbers.

-Doug

-- 
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 08:19:43 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:49:43 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Run the process and retrieve answer
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810130819i29a8b545s912b6d75e3b7129b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

is it possible to Run the process then retrieve answer ?
in http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Code_snippets:Running_applications there
isn't any example of retrieving answer
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 08:23:03 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:53:03 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] remote execute command from JavaScript
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810130823s1930bc0v251f5b2e7b28d603@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I need to connect to remote machine and then execute a command and then
retrieve answer (from telnet, ssh,...)
Is it possible to do it from my extension

Any help is appropriated, I really need it
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From ocramius at gmail.com  Mon Oct 13 13:04:31 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:04:31 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] use putty to execute command on remote machine
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810120234u6aeba6dbve2a1bf7bba2214ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810120228n284fe364i9bad6f0b361cfdbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<b5a086e0810120231j1f5e8bb0q5e92d31d9263278c@mail.gmail.com>
	<23d9f6b20810120232l50a19fc1pee2d306518548059@mail.gmail.com>
	<23d9f6b20810120234u6aeba6dbve2a1bf7bba2214ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0810131304l26dd2000wc30e459ef518be2c@mail.gmail.com>

Did you browse the various XPCOMs through th the XPCOMViewer?
Maybe there's something interesting for you :)

2008/10/12 joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>

> I want to send and receive commands from remote machine in my extension.
> You mean that it is possible to connect to remote machine directly from
> JavaScript !
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No, how can I do that ?
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Marco Pivetta <ocramius at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> It would be simpler to directly connect to ssh, don't you think? :)
>>>
>>> 2008/10/12 joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to use Putty for port forwarding ssh connection and then
>>>> send/receive remote machine commands from JavaScript?
>>>> If yes, please give me some information how to start :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
>>> http://www.stogame.net
>>> Making Ogame a better place...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>


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From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Oct 14 09:50:12 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:50:12 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Run the process and retrieve answer
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810130819i29a8b545s912b6d75e3b7129b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810130819i29a8b545s912b6d75e3b7129b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F4CDC4.6040708@mozdev.org>

joe ertaba wrote:
> is it possible to Run the process then retrieve answer ?
> in http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Code_snippets:Running_applications 
> there isn't any example of retrieving answer

nsIProcess.exitValue

http://developer.mozilla.org/En/NsIProcess

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Oct 14 10:53:56 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:53:56 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
In-Reply-To: <48ECB077.60708@stlouis-shopper.com>
References: <48EB9931.8020906@mozdev.org> <48ECB077.60708@stlouis-shopper.com>
Message-ID: <48F4DCB4.3080208@mozdev.org>

massey wrote:
> For mac(to limit ui access) you might need to make an xpcom component 
> that gives you access to this: 
> http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2002/tn2062.html

I think there are updated Cocoa APIs, but it seems like the way to go 
for full-screen anyway.

I there there are a couple of PyXPCOM[1][2] implementations in the wild, 
so a C++ XPCOM implementation is not unrealaistic.

Does anyone have any experience talking with Apple APIs via XPCOM?

[1] http://marcosaruj.com/archives/3
[2] 
http://markmail.org/message/2tji5rb57o5rqunq#query:+page:1+mid:2qb4hqrl7c4pa7xn+state:results

- Brian

From brian at mozdev.org  Tue Oct 14 11:01:43 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:01:43 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Flash, XUL Windows, and more
In-Reply-To: <648905.61496.qm@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <648905.61496.qm@web33803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48F4DE87.1020902@mozdev.org>

Nathaniel Jayme wrote:
> this seems to work on GNU/Linux:
> 
> <html>
> <body>
>    Hello
>    <input type="button" value="Clickme" onclick="udf_bClicked();" />
>    <script type="text/javascript">
>       var udv_bCanBlur = false;
>       function udf_bClicked(){
>          udv_bCanBlur = true;
>       }
>       function udf_bFocus(){
>          if (udv_bCanBlur) return;
>          window.focus();
>       }
>       window.addEventListener("blur",udf_bFocus,true);
>     </script>
> </body>
> </html>

I tried (not too hard though) to integrate similar code on Mac with 
XUL/JS but with no success. I think focus works different there because 
if you notice that if you click on a background window you then have to 
click it again to give it focus.

- Brian

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 14 13:42:26 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:42:26 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal proposal and a question (Feature
 Request Already Implemented By Doug)
In-Reply-To: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gd304c$1tkr$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Anyone here using Drupal for their WiKi?  If yes, how did you manage to 
> change the layout of it?  Is that even possible?
> 
> If not; I would like to propose a Drupal setup change, one that enables 
> us to load the CSS files from the project, rather than: /drupal/..

<snip />

> This way we can at least control the layout, hoping that the (X)HTML 
> validation errors are not part of the Drupal pages/templates because 
> they just don't seem to validate properly.

Doug not only filed bug 20075 [1] but he also fixed it already!

We can now add $local_conf_drupal_css to our main local.conf and change 
the layout.  The documentation at: 
http://www.mozdev.org/docs/localconf.html
has also been updated.

Thank you very much Doug!

[1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20075

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Tue Oct 14 17:00:01 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Drupal proposal and a question (Feature
 Request Already Implemented By Doug)
In-Reply-To: <gd304c$1tkr$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <gccd33$1v10$1@mozdev.mozdev.org> <gd304c$1tkr$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48F53281.8010107@silfreed.net>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Doug not only filed bug 20075 [1] but he also fixed it already!
> 
> We can now add $local_conf_drupal_css to our main local.conf and change 
> the layout.  The documentation at: 
> http://www.mozdev.org/docs/localconf.html
> has also been updated.
> 
> Thank you very much Doug!
> 
> [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20075

Thanks for mentioning this to everyone; This is definitely a short-term fix, 
but hopefully this will help projects like br.mozdev.org and others that were 
relying on evil Drupal hacks to style their instances a little easier.

-Doug

-- 
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 08:06:14 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:36:14 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Run the process and retrieve answer
In-Reply-To: <48F4CDC4.6040708@mozdev.org>
References: <23d9f6b20810130819i29a8b545s912b6d75e3b7129b@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F4CDC4.6040708@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810200806q4e292560nd59683cd6091abe0@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:

> joe ertaba wrote:
>
>> is it possible to Run the process then retrieve answer ?
>> in http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Code_snippets:Running_applicationsthere isn't any example of retrieving answer
>>
>
> nsIProcess.exitValue
>
> http://developer.mozilla.org/En/NsIProcess
>

It only shows external application status not returning back output !


>
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 08:07:39 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:37:39 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810200807y3afd453bk1ec954774d352b5e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Is there any way to connect to server from telnet protocol via extension ?
if yes please show me how to start

TNX
Joe
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From dernotte at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 20 09:41:09 2008
From: dernotte at yahoo.com (Didier Ernotte)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810200807y3afd453bk1ec954774d352b5e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <981130.93692.qm@web31003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You can open a socket? and send/receive text command/response from server.

Didier

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:
From: joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
To: "Mozdev Project Owners List" <project_owners at mozdev.org>
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:07 AM

Hi

Is there any way to connect to server from telnet protocol via extension ? if yes please show me how to start

TNX
Joe

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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 14:15:42 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:45:42 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
In-Reply-To: <981130.93692.qm@web31003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810200807y3afd453bk1ec954774d352b5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<981130.93692.qm@web31003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810201415g358d1971vfd7d4a500d5c689@mail.gmail.com>

Tnx Didier

But I still cant connect successfully
here is my code:

function getPageContent()
{
  var listener = {
    finished : function(data){
      dump(data);
    }
  }

  readAllFromSocket("*MY Server IP*",*23*,"*Some text*",listener);
}

function readAllFromSocket(host,port,outputData,listener)
{
  try {
    var transportService =
      Components.classes["@mozilla.org/network/socket-transport-service;1"]
        .getService(Components.interfaces.nsISocketTransportService);
    var transport = transportService.createTransport(null,0,host,port,null);

    var outstream = transport.openOutputStream(0,0,0);
    outstream.write(outputData,outputData.length);

    var stream = transport.openInputStream(0,0,0);
    var instream = Components.classes["@mozilla.org/scriptableinputstream;1
"]
      .createInstance(Components.interfaces.nsIScriptableInputStream);
    instream.init(stream);

    var dataListener = {
      data : "",
      onStartRequest: function(request, context){},
      onStopRequest: function(request, context, status){
        instream.close();
        outstream.close();
        listener.finished(this.data);
      },
      onDataAvailable: function(request, context, inputStream, offset,
count){
        this.data += instream.read(count);
      },
    };

    var pump = Components.
      classes["@mozilla.org/network/input-stream-pump;1"].
        createInstance(Components.interfaces.nsIInputStreamPump);
    pump.init(stream, -1, -1, 0, 0, false);
    pump.asyncRead(dataListener,null);
  } catch (ex){
    return ex;
  }
  return null;
}

getPageContent();


After run this code I don't get any text (I think this code must receive
some welcome msg at least)

can you help?

Tnx


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Didier Ernotte <dernotte at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You can open a socket  and send/receive text command/response from server.
>
> Didier
>
> --- On *Mon, 10/20/08, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
> To: "Mozdev Project Owners List" <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:07 AM
>
>
> Hi
>
> Is there any way to connect to server from telnet protocol via extension ?
> if yes please show me how to start
>
> TNX
> Joe
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
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From didier at ernotte.com  Tue Oct 21 07:10:39 2008
From: didier at ernotte.com (Didier Ernotte)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810201415g358d1971vfd7d4a500d5c689@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <597917.11422.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm quite busy and I don't have time to look at your code, but you can look at mime here

http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/inforss/src/chrome/content/inforss/inforssFeedNntp.js?rev=1.4

it is supposted to read data from a NNTP server using socket.
Hope it will help.

Didier

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:
From: joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Project_owners] telnet from extension
To: didier at ernotte.com, "Mozdev Project Owners List" <project_owners at mozdev.org>
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 5:15 PM

Tnx Didier

But I still cant connect successfully
here is my code:

function getPageContent()
{
? var listener = {
??? finished : function(data){
????? dump(data);
??? }
? }


? readAllFromSocket("MY Server IP",23,"Some text",listener);
}

function readAllFromSocket(host,port,outputData,listener)
{
? try {
??? var transportService =

????? Components.classes["@mozilla.org/network/socket-transport-service;1"]
??????? .getService(Components.interfaces.nsISocketTransportService);

??? var transport = transportService.createTransport(null,0,host,port,null);

??? var outstream = transport.openOutputStream(0,0,0);
??? outstream.write(outputData,outputData.length);

??? var stream = transport.openInputStream(0,0,0);

??? var instream = Components.classes["@mozilla.org/scriptableinputstream;1"]
????? .createInstance(Components.interfaces.nsIScriptableInputStream);

??? instream.init(stream);

??? var dataListener = {
????? data : "",
????? onStartRequest: function(request, context){},
????? onStopRequest: function(request, context, status){
??????? instream.close();

??????? outstream.close();
??????? listener.finished(this.data);
????? },
????? onDataAvailable: function(request, context, inputStream, offset, count){
??????? this.data += instream.read(count);
????? },

??? };

??? var pump = Components.
????? classes["@mozilla.org/network/input-stream-pump;1"].
??????? createInstance(Components.interfaces.nsIInputStreamPump);

??? pump.init(stream, -1, -1, 0, 0, false);
??? pump.asyncRead(dataListener,null);
? } catch (ex){
??? return ex;
? }
? return null;
}

getPageContent();


After run this code I don't get any text (I think this code must receive some welcome msg at least)


can you help?

Tnx


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Didier Ernotte <dernotte at yahoo.com> wrote:


You can open a socket? and send/receive text command/response from server.

Didier

--- On Mon, 10/20/08, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

From: joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
Subject: [Project_owners] telnet from extension

To: "Mozdev Project Owners List" <project_owners at mozdev.org>
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:07 AM


Hi

Is there any way to connect to server from telnet protocol via extension ? if yes please show me how to start

TNX
Joe

_______________________________________________
Project_owners mailing list
Project_owners at mozdev.org
https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners


_______________________________________________

Project_owners mailing list

Project_owners at mozdev.org

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From godmar at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 19:57:31 2008
From: godmar at gmail.com (Godmar Back)
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:57:31 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] experience with OO libraries in chrome space?
Message-ID: <719dced30810211957r387f6f72h1442521b03e3b653@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

is anybody using any of the major (or minor) JS libraries that provide
support for OO-style programming (such as prototype, mootools, etc.)
in chrome space in a FF add-on? If so, what experiences have you made?
Were you able to use the library unchanged? I'm particularly concerned
about the potential for namespace conflicts and about how to maintain
the OO library going forward if changes needed to be made.

Most major libraries appear to be designed for client-side Javascript
within a web page; much of the functionality they provide, such as
browser-sniffing, browser-independent effects and event handling,
etc., are probably not needed in chrome space. For this reason, is
there a minimal library anybody could recommend that didn't emphasize
these aspects?

I'd be grateful for any experience you'd be willing to share.

 - Godmar

From ocramius at gmail.com  Tue Oct 21 21:02:25 2008
From: ocramius at gmail.com (Marco Pivetta)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:02:25 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] experience with OO libraries in chrome space?
In-Reply-To: <719dced30810211957r387f6f72h1442521b03e3b653@mail.gmail.com>
References: <719dced30810211957r387f6f72h1442521b03e3b653@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5a086e0810212102r79c34cd9k4edca1b61d15e831@mail.gmail.com>

I usually talk with the author or with the ones that manage the license of
the OO lib.
I have included HighSlide (under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial
2.5 License <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/>) in my StOgame
packages, and the author told me there's no problem in using it. Now I
wanted to add xmpp4moz.xpi to my package, but I'm getting some conflicts
between GPL3 and MPL1.1... Still trying to solve. I'll let you know :)

2008/10/22 Godmar Back <godmar at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> is anybody using any of the major (or minor) JS libraries that provide
> support for OO-style programming (such as prototype, mootools, etc.)
> in chrome space in a FF add-on? If so, what experiences have you made?
> Were you able to use the library unchanged? I'm particularly concerned
> about the potential for namespace conflicts and about how to maintain
> the OO library going forward if changes needed to be made.
>
> Most major libraries appear to be designed for client-side Javascript
> within a web page; much of the functionality they provide, such as
> browser-sniffing, browser-independent effects and event handling,
> etc., are probably not needed in chrome space. For this reason, is
> there a minimal library anybody could recommend that didn't emphasize
> these aspects?
>
> I'd be grateful for any experience you'd be willing to share.
>
>  - Godmar
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
Standard Ogame Project - StOgame
http://www.stogame.net
Making Ogame a better place...
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 00:12:29 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:42:29 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Permission denied to get property ....
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810220012g2bb3a6a7kce4d26fb52bb258b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

In FF3 not in FF2 when I use "extension developer
extension"<http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/extensiondev/>to
execute some JavaScript codes I get this error: "Socket Error:
Permission
denied to get property "

Any body know how can I get rid off it ?

Is there any better extension to execute JavaScript codes?

Tnx
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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Wed Oct 22 06:18:41 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:18:41 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Permission denied to get property ....
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810220012g2bb3a6a7kce4d26fb52bb258b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810220012g2bb3a6a7kce4d26fb52bb258b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FF2831.2050601@heroes-addon.dk>

joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi
>
> In FF3 not in FF2 when I use "extension developer extension" 
> <http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/extensiondev/> to execute some 
> JavaScript codes I get this error: "Socket Error: Permission denied to 
> get property "
>
> Any body know how can I get rid off it ?
>
> Is there any better extension to execute JavaScript codes?
>
> Tnx
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   

Throw your test code :-)

From shanec at ActiveState.com  Wed Oct 22 07:25:15 2008
From: shanec at ActiveState.com (Shane Caraveo)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:25:15 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] experience with OO libraries in chrome space?
In-Reply-To: <719dced30810211957r387f6f72h1442521b03e3b653@mail.gmail.com>
References: <719dced30810211957r387f6f72h1442521b03e3b653@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48FF37CB.5000700@ActiveState.com>

I think a few have been used in extensions for Komodo, but not by Komodo 
itself.  cc'ing Todd, he may have a better answer.
Regards,
Shane

Godmar Back wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is anybody using any of the major (or minor) JS libraries that provide
> support for OO-style programming (such as prototype, mootools, etc.)
> in chrome space in a FF add-on? If so, what experiences have you made?
> Were you able to use the library unchanged? I'm particularly concerned
> about the potential for namespace conflicts and about how to maintain
> the OO library going forward if changes needed to be made.
> 
> Most major libraries appear to be designed for client-side Javascript
> within a web page; much of the functionality they provide, such as
> browser-sniffing, browser-independent effects and event handling,
> etc., are probably not needed in chrome space. For this reason, is
> there a minimal library anybody could recommend that didn't emphasize
> these aspects?
> 
> I'd be grateful for any experience you'd be willing to share.
> 
>  - Godmar
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners


From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 11:04:06 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:34:06 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] How to set a selected text to a text field of a
	side bar
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810221104w5b5b2d03nb2c5e7573100ef99@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Friends,

I need to know about how to set a selected text to a text box in a sidebar
after selecting a text and click a popupmenu. Code for popupmenu is in
Overlay.xul file and when a menu item is clicked it execute a function in
another .js file. A broadcaster is also set in the Overlay.xul and the
sidebar is set to that broadcaster by loading ( setting broadcasters
url) another xul which has the code for sidebar. I can get the value of
selected text but I don't know a way to set that value to the relevant text
field of the sidebar.

Thanks & Regards,

Manjula
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From piecu at go2.pl  Wed Oct 22 11:21:32 2008
From: piecu at go2.pl (Piecu)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:21:32 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48FF6F2C.1000608@go2.pl>

David Boswell wrote:
> Mozdev is turning 8 years old this month

Congratulations!

But... When you compare the page from October 2000 to the current one 
you can see that it looks almost the same (beside the fact that 
currently is autumn theme). Don't you think that it is time for re-design?

-- 
Best regards,
Bartosz Piec

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Wed Oct 22 11:42:08 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:42:08 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <48FF6F2C.1000608@go2.pl>
References: <164254.26550.qm@web33006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48FF6F2C.1000608@go2.pl>
Message-ID: <48FF7400.8000302@silfreed.net>

Piecu wrote:
> But... When you compare the page from October 2000 to the current one 
> you can see that it looks almost the same (beside the fact that 
> currently is autumn theme). Don't you think that it is time for re-design?
> 

It's on the roadmap [1].

-Doug

[1] http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Wed Oct 22 11:55:27 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:55:27 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Delivery Test
Message-ID: <48FF771F.5020905@heroes-addon.dk>

Ignore :-)

From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 22 12:42:10 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (eric.jung at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:42:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
Message-ID: <402942.41244.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> From: Piecu <piecu at go2.pl>


> 
> But... When you compare the page from October 2000 to the current one 
> you can see that it looks almost the same (beside the fact that 
> currently is autumn theme). Don't you think that it is time for re-design?

One of the challenges faced by many non-profit organizations, including mozdev, is funding. We'd like to hire a professional design firm to redesign the site, but that requires more funds than we can afford at the moment. That's one reason your donations are so important to us.

Please consider donating...

http://www.mozdev.org/donation.html

Thanks,
Eric Jung
mozdev board of directors


      

From varun21 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 12:43:56 2008
From: varun21 at gmail.com (Shivanand Sharma / Varun)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:13:56 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <402942.41244.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <402942.41244.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1a9fd9700810221243v4fa591c9p5425f15acae2f466@mail.gmail.com>

Cheers!!!

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:12 AM, <eric.jung at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > From: Piecu <piecu at go2.pl>
>
>
> >
> > But... When you compare the page from October 2000 to the current one
> > you can see that it looks almost the same (beside the fact that
> > currently is autumn theme). Don't you think that it is time for
> re-design?
>
> One of the challenges faced by many non-profit organizations, including
> mozdev, is funding. We'd like to hire a professional design firm to redesign
> the site, but that requires more funds than we can afford at the moment.
> That's one reason your donations are so important to us.
>
> Please consider donating...
>
> http://www.mozdev.org/donation.html
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Jung
> mozdev board of directors
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
Cheers!
Shivanand Sharma
Editor: http://binaryturf.com
Web, Technology, Blogging, Monetization
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From philip at aleytys.pc.my  Wed Oct 22 12:58:46 2008
From: philip at aleytys.pc.my (Philip Chee)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:58:46 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Delivery Test
In-Reply-To: <mailman.113.1224701709.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.113.1224701709.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gdo0h3$4hd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:55:27 +0200, Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
> Ignore :-)

public.mozdev.test is over there ------------>

Phil

-- 
Philip Chee <philip at aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee at gmail.com>
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org
Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
[ ]My mother was the tour guide for Guilt Trips...
* TagZilla 0.066.6


From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Wed Oct 22 14:06:34 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:06:34 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Delivery Test
In-Reply-To: <gdo0h3$4hd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.113.1224701709.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gdo0h3$4hd$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <48FF95DA.6030806@heroes-addon.dk>

Philip Chee wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:55:27 +0200, Jesper Staun Hansen wrote:
>   
>> Ignore :-)
>>     
>
> public.mozdev.test is over there ------------>
>
> Phil
>
>   

Just sometimes... Sometimes... Really. Just ignore it. Was a delivery 
time test, as mozdev PO list is getting slow today.


From brian at mozdev.org  Thu Oct 23 02:58:40 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:58:40 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] How to set a selected text to a text field of
 a side bar
In-Reply-To: <e6956fe10810221104w5b5b2d03nb2c5e7573100ef99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e6956fe10810221104w5b5b2d03nb2c5e7573100ef99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49004AD0.90505@mozdev.org>

Silver Surfer wrote:
> Hi Friends,
>  
> I need to know about how to set a selected text to a text box in a 
> sidebar after selecting a text and click a popupmenu. Code for popupmenu 
> is in Overlay.xul file and when a menu item is clicked it execute a 
> function in another .js file. A broadcaster is also set in the 
> Overlay.xul and the sidebar is set to that broadcaster by loading ( 
> setting broadcasters url) another xul which has the code for sidebar. I 
> can get the value of selected text but I don't know a way to set that 
> value to the relevant text field of the sidebar.

See:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Code_snippets/Sidebar#Accessing_the_sidebar_from_a_browser.xul_script

- Brian

From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com  Thu Oct 23 06:46:24 2008
From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:46:24 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.114.1224704539.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.114.1224704539.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

> One of the challenges faced by many non-profit organizations, including
> mozdev, is funding. We'd like to hire a professional design firm to
> redesign the site, but that requires more funds than we can afford at
> the moment. That's one reason your donations are so important to us.

A redesign by a professional design firm is a good way to needlessly 
make a website more complex and cookie-cutter and to alienate current users.

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Thu Oct 23 07:19:30 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:19:30 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.114.1224704539.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <490087F2.6010403@silfreed.net>

Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote:
> A redesign by a professional design firm is a good way to needlessly 
> make a website more complex and cookie-cutter and to alienate current 
> users.

In general, I would agree with that.  In most cases clients don't have a very 
strong idea of what they actually want and just end up with something that 
doesn't fit their users very well.

Do you think other redesigns in the Mozilla community have gone poorly (like 
the Mozilla.com redesign for FF3)?

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 09:10:01 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:40:01 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] How to set a selected text to a text field of
	a side bar
In-Reply-To: <49004AD0.90505@mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810221104w5b5b2d03nb2c5e7573100ef99@mail.gmail.com>
	<49004AD0.90505@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810230910v292d1709xc25fad670e6bcac7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Brian I did it. It is a realy helpfull link.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Brian King <brian at mozdev.org> wrote:

> Silver Surfer wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>  I need to know about how to set a selected text to a text box in a
>> sidebar after selecting a text and click a popupmenu. Code for popupmenu is
>> in Overlay.xul file and when a menu item is clicked it execute a function in
>> another .js file. A broadcaster is also set in the Overlay.xul and the
>> sidebar is set to that broadcaster by loading ( setting broadcasters url)
>> another xul which has the code for sidebar. I can get the value of selected
>> text but I don't know a way to set that value to the relevant text field of
>> the sidebar.
>>
>
> See:
>
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Code_snippets/Sidebar#Accessing_the_sidebar_from_a_browser.xul_script
>
> - Brian
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
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Surfing through time & space
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From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 09:28:20 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <271763.92414.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> A redesign by a professional design firm is a good way to needlessly 
> make a website more complex and cookie-cutter and to alienate current
> users.

Any redesign would involve the community of people currently using the site so I don't think we will end up with something that makes the site harder to use than it is now.  Personally, I think there is a lot of room for improvement not just in the design of the site but also in the usability of it and am looking forward to a redesign.

David

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 11:16:34 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:16:34 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.132.1224771578.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.114.1224704539.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.132.1224771578.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gdqeud$1odh$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote:
>> A redesign by a professional design firm is a good way to needlessly 
>> make a website more complex and cookie-cutter and to alienate current 
>> users.
> 
> In general, I would agree with that.  In most cases clients don't have a 
> very strong idea of what they actually want and just end up with 
> something that doesn't fit their users very well.
> 
> Do you think other redesigns in the Mozilla community have gone poorly 
> (like the Mozilla.com redesign for FF3)?
> 
> -Doug

Yes, at least if that is what you get from a "professional design firm" 
because I can assure you that the used color for text is hard, if not 
impossible to read for a large group of people.

Not to mention text like:

"Can a browser really make the Web better?
Try Firefox and see for yourself. Learn more."

because there is not a single browser that can make the web 'better'. 
In fact you sometimes /have/ to visit certain web sites with MSIE simply 
because they don't work with Firefox (so much for making the web better).

/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 11:19:22 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:19:22 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.134.1224779309.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.134.1224779309.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gdqf3j$1odh$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>

David Boswell wrote:
>> A redesign by a professional design firm is a good way to needlessly 
>> make a website more complex and cookie-cutter and to alienate current
>> users.
> 
> Any redesign would involve the community of people currently using the site so I don't think we will end up with something that makes the site harder to use than it is now.  Personally, I think there is a lot of room for improvement not just in the design of the site but also in the usability of it and am looking forward to a redesign.
> 
> David

This might be a good time to start a new thread, where project owners 
and the like can talk/share ideas with the mozdev.org staff / board members.

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 23 11:25:51 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <gdqf3j$1odh$2@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <671220.95000.qm@web33007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> This might be a good time to start a new thread, where project owners 
> and the like can talk/share ideas with the mozdev.org staff / board 
> members.

Good idea.  Feel free to post ideas on this list or start a wiki page.  We don't know when the redesign process will get started, but it would be useful to have some information already collected when we do start.

David

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Fri Oct 24 12:38:00 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:38:00 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Redesign Ideas
Message-ID: <49022418.3070900@silfreed.net>

The Mozdev redesign came up in our anniversary thread, and while we might not 
be logistically ready to get started on it, we would like to get everyone's 
input on our ideas that we have.

I've setup a wiki page [1] that outlines some of ideas for the redesign.  Feel 
free to make changes there, comment, or reply to this thread.  We'd love to 
know what you think.

== MozdevRedesign2008 ==

Defn: "Mozdev User"
   * Developers trying to find out how to create a project
   * Developers trying to find out how to do something with their project
   * End-users (Firefox, Thunderbird) trying to extend their functionality

Goals for a redesign
   1. Make it easier for the above users to achieve their goals
   2. Introduce a new visual "feel" to help guide users to their goals
   3. Establish a new brand identity for Mozdev that is separate from Mozilla 
(although we want to maintain enough similarity with Mozilla sites to make it 
feel like we're all part of the same community)

Redesign ideas:
   1. Restructure home page to remove "excess information" (new projects, last 
updated) and make goals of above users easier to get into (perhaps three main 
groupings of links to help users find what they want)
   2. Reorganize information that exists at Mozdev
   3. Establish a clear separation between site and projects (eg, currently 
the left hand nav bar for site-wide links blurs into the project specific 
information and links of the main content area)

-Doug

[1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevRedesign2008

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org


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From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com  Fri Oct 24 13:05:48 2008
From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:05:48 +0200
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Turns 8 Years Old
In-Reply-To: <mailman.132.1224771578.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.114.1224704539.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gdpv81$7on$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.132.1224771578.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gdt9rn$rpp$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

> Do you think other redesigns in the Mozilla community have gone poorly 
> (like the Mozilla.com redesign for FF3)?

Don't like the mozilla.com redesign much. SpreadFirefox.com is a mess.

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 06:53:28 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:23:28 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] xul multi textbox scroll to end
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810250653l5c53a411icfb8c2c1131f47da@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Is there any way to force multiline textbox to scroll to last line ?
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 06:58:00 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:28:00 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I have a var in JS

var p = {
element1,
....
}

I want to set element1 to document.getElementById('some id'), some thing
like this :

var p = {
element1 : document.getElementById('some id') ,
....

MyFuction : function(){

element1.value="some text";
},


}



In this case MyFuction doesnt work :(

can somebody help to solve it ?
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From zilla at nxuy.com  Sat Oct 25 08:30:25 2008
From: zilla at nxuy.com (Roberto Bouzout (tito))
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:30:25 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>

> var p = {
> element1 : document.getElementById('some id') ,
> ....
>
> MyFuction : function(){
>
> element1.value="some text";
> },
>
>
> }

Properties of "p" from the "inside" are accessed by "this" keyword
I think that this should work, but maybe there is another problem such document.getElementById('some id') is not defined when "p" is initialized.
  MyFuction : function(){
  
  this.element1.value="some text";
  },


From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 08:17:12 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:47:12 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Roberto

Thanks for response ;

var p = {
    element1 : "" ,
    ....
    Initial : function(){
        this.element1 = document.getElementById('some id');
    },
    ....
    MyFuction : function(){
        this.element1.value="some text";
    }
}

p.Initial();
p.MyFuction();

but it doesn't works too [?]
Any idea ?





On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com>wrote:

> var p = {
>> element1 : document.getElementById('some id') ,
>> ....
>>
>> MyFuction : function(){
>>
>> element1.value="some text";
>> },
>>
>>
>> }
>>
>
> Properties of "p" from the "inside" are accessed by "this" keyword
> I think that this should work, but maybe there is another problem such
> document.getElementById('some id') is not defined when "p" is initialized.
>  MyFuction : function(){
>   this.element1.value="some text";
>  },
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
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From zilla at nxuy.com  Sat Oct 25 09:24:55 2008
From: zilla at nxuy.com (Roberto Bouzout (tito))
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:24:55 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>

What type of element is "some id" ?

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 08:51:05 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:21:05 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>

I find out that when I use initial function to initialize var then it works!

Thanks for your help


On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com>wrote:

> What type of element is "some id" ?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
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From zilla at nxuy.com  Sat Oct 25 09:52:18 2008
From: zilla at nxuy.com (Roberto Bouzout (tito))
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:52:18 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49034EC2.7080406@nxuy.com>

Look at this:
http://www.godzuki.info/XUL/p.xul

From zilla at nxuy.com  Sat Oct 25 09:53:47 2008
From: zilla at nxuy.com (Roberto Bouzout (tito))
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:53:47 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>

You are welcome!  :)

joe ertaba wrote:
> I find out that when I use initial function to initialize var then it works!
>
> Thanks for your help
>
>

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 14:13:00 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:43:00 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>

There is a problem with this method which I cant find out, here is example:

Example 1 (This example works fine)

--JS code---

var p = {
    element1 : "" ,
    Initial : function(){
        this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
    },
    MyFuction : function(){
        this.element1.value="some text";
    }
}

-----
-XUL code----

<label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
onclick="
 *p.Initial();
*
*p.MyFuction();*
 "
 />
-----

Example 2:

--JS code---

var p = {
    element1 : "" ,
    Initial : function(){
        this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
    },
    MyFuction : function(){
        this.element1.value="some text";
    }
}

*p.Initial();
window.addEventListener("load", p.MyFuction, true); *
-----
-XUL code----

<label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"/>
-----

The second example DOES NOT work!






On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com>wrote:

> You are welcome!  :)
>
> joe ertaba wrote:
>
>> I find out that when I use initial function to initialize var then it
>> works!
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>  _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
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From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Sat Oct 25 15:05:35 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:05:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

In example 2, you call p.Initial() too early. The document has not yet 
been fully loaded, so document.getElementById("iddd") does not return 
anything.

Matthew

joe ertaba wrote:
> There is a problem with this method which I cant find out, here is example:
> 
> Example 1 (This example works fine)
> 
> --JS code---
> 
> var p = {
>     element1 : "" ,
>     Initial : function(){
>         this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>     },
>     MyFuction : function(){
>         this.element1.value="some text";
>     }
> }
> 
> -----
> -XUL code----
> 
> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
> onclick="
> *p.Initial();
> *
> *p.MyFuction();*
> "
> />
> -----
> 
> Example 2:
> 
> --JS code---
> 
> var p = {
>     element1 : "" ,
>     Initial : function(){
>         this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>     },
>     MyFuction : function(){
>         this.element1.value="some text";
>     }
> }
> 
> *p.Initial();
> window.addEventListener("load", p.MyFuction, true); *
> -----
> -XUL code----
> 
> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"/>
> -----
> 
> The second example DOES NOT work!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com 
> <mailto:zilla at nxuy.com>> wrote:
> 
>     You are welcome!  :)
> 
> 
>     joe ertaba wrote:
> 
>         I find out that when I use initial function to initialize var
>         then it works!
> 
>         Thanks for your help
> 
> 
>     _______________________________________________
>     Project_owners mailing list
>     Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
>     https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners


From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 00:43:10 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:13:10 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Matthew

I dont think that this is a case , here is example:

----XUL---
<label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
onclick="
*    p.MyFuction();*
"
/>
-------
----JavaScript---
var p = {
    element1 : "" ,
    Initial : function(){
        this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
    },
    MyFuction : function(){
        this.element1.value="some text";
    }
}

*window.addEventListener("load", p.Initial, true); *
-------

In this example I use p.Initial in proper time, but still nothing happens
when click on label!


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Matthew Wilson <
matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In example 2, you call p.Initial() too early. The document has not yet been
> fully loaded, so document.getElementById("iddd") does not return anything.
>
> Matthew
>
> joe ertaba wrote:
>
>> There is a problem with this method which I cant find out, here is
>> example:
>>
>> Example 1 (This example works fine)
>>
>> --JS code---
>>
>> var p = {
>>    element1 : "" ,
>>    Initial : function(){
>>        this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>>    },
>>    MyFuction : function(){
>>        this.element1.value="some text";
>>    }
>> }
>>
>> -----
>> -XUL code----
>>
>> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
>> onclick="
>> *p.Initial();
>> *
>> *p.MyFuction();*
>> "
>> />
>> -----
>>
>> Example 2:
>>
>> --JS code---
>>
>> var p = {
>>    element1 : "" ,
>>    Initial : function(){
>>        this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>>    },
>>    MyFuction : function(){
>>        this.element1.value="some text";
>>    }
>> }
>>
>> *p.Initial();
>> window.addEventListener("load", p.MyFuction, true); *
>> -----
>> -XUL code----
>>
>> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"/>
>> -----
>>
>> The second example DOES NOT work!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com<mailto:
>> zilla at nxuy.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    You are welcome!  :)
>>
>>
>>    joe ertaba wrote:
>>
>>        I find out that when I use initial function to initialize var
>>        then it works!
>>
>>        Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>    _______________________________________________
>>    Project_owners mailing list
>>    Project_owners at mozdev.org <mailto:Project_owners at mozdev.org>
>>    https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct 26 01:19:58 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:19:58 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>
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When p.Initial is called, "this" does not refer to p, but "window".

See 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/element.addEventListener#The_value_of_this_within_the_handler


Matthew

joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi Matthew
> 
> I dont think that this is a case , here is example:
> 
> ----XUL---
> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
> onclick="
> *    p.MyFuction();*
> "
> />
> -------
> ----JavaScript---
> var p = {
>     element1 : "" ,
>     Initial : function(){
>         this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>     },
>     MyFuction : function(){
>         this.element1.value="some text";
>     }
> }
> 
> *window.addEventListener("load", p.Initial, true); *
> -------
> 
> In this example I use p.Initial in proper time, but still nothing 
> happens when click on label!
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 02:16:11 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:46:11 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <4904282E.3040401@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904282E.3040401@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
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Thank you very much :)

So why it isn't better to use variable name (p in my case) always
instead of "this" ?

On 10/26/08, Matthew Wilson <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> When p.Initial is called, "this" does not refer to p, but "window".
>
> See
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/element.addEventListener#The_value_of_this_within_the_handler
>
>
> Matthew
>
> joe ertaba wrote:
>> Hi Matthew
>>
>> I dont think that this is a case , here is example:
>>
>> ----XUL---
>> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
>> onclick="
>> *    p.MyFuction();*
>> "
>> />
>> -------
>> ----JavaScript---
>> var p = {
>>     element1 : "" ,
>>     Initial : function(){
>>         this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
>>     },
>>     MyFuction : function(){
>>         this.element1.value="some text";
>>     }
>> }
>>
>> *window.addEventListener("load", p.Initial, true); *
>> -------
>>
>> In this example I use p.Initial in proper time, but still nothing
>> happens when click on label!
>

From lovelywcm at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 02:35:29 2008
From: lovelywcm at gmail.com (WCM)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:35:29 +0800
Subject: [Project_owners] Is it possible to rename a project?
Message-ID: <cd9209b30810260235taf74ebfr37d0677467aa39ef@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have registered a project recently. While in the progress of
development I was inspired by a new idea, thus I prefer to give it a
new name.

Is it possible to "Rename", or I should register another one?


Thanks!


--
WCM

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 04:15:17 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:45:17 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Multicolor text in textbox
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810260415r1f994c0ck499fc9aa77e71fa7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Is it possible to have multicolor text in textbox ?

if not is there any element that can be used instead ?

Thanks
-Joe

From jesper at heroes-addon.dk  Sun Oct 26 05:21:12 2008
From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:21:12 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Multicolor text in textbox
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810260415r1f994c0ck499fc9aa77e71fa7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810260415r1f994c0ck499fc9aa77e71fa7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490460B8.3000002@heroes-addon.dk>

joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi
>
> Is it possible to have multicolor text in textbox ?
>
> if not is there any element that can be used instead ?
>
> Thanks
> -Joe
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>   


In short with the only use of <textbox>, then no. You'll need to make an 
iframe that is editable. (like the most editors uses on the interwebs)

From davidwboswell at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 26 08:54:27 2008
From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Is it possible to rename a project?
In-Reply-To: <cd9209b30810260235taf74ebfr37d0677467aa39ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <489095.67642.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Is it possible to "Rename", or I should register
> another one?

It isn't possible to rename a project, but you are welcome to request a new one and set up redirects from the old one.

David

From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk  Sun Oct 26 10:40:57 2008
From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:40:57 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810260216g737a4e73jafbd32f44ec08dab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<49033B91.2040202@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>	<23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>	<4904282E.3040401@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<23d9f6b20810260216g737a4e73jafbd32f44ec08dab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4904ABA9.5090202@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>

joe ertaba wrote:
> Thank you very much :)
> 
> So why it isn't better to use variable name (p in my case) always
> instead of "this" ?

You need "this" to refer to the current object. In general 
object-oriented programming, you don't always know what this is, so you 
can't refer to it as p.

Matthew

From ezechico at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 10:56:23 2008
From: ezechico at gmail.com (Ezequiel Calderara)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:56:23 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810260216g737a4e73jafbd32f44ec08dab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>
	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>
	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>
	<4904282E.3040401@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>
	<23d9f6b20810260216g737a4e73jafbd32f44ec08dab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94d359b10810261056o486b3878wc6ec1e895548f200@mail.gmail.com>

Also, is always preferable to have named variables instead of a single
letter ones...

what does p stands for? u have to look for the definition of that variable
or the assignment...
the code, at least for me, should be semantic.. and easy to understand...

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:16 AM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much :)
>
> So why it isn't better to use variable name (p in my case) always
> instead of "this" ?
>
> On 10/26/08, Matthew Wilson <matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > When p.Initial is called, "this" does not refer to p, but "window".
> >
> > See
> >
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/element.addEventListener#The_value_of_this_within_the_handler
> >
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> > joe ertaba wrote:
> >> Hi Matthew
> >>
> >> I dont think that this is a case , here is example:
> >>
> >> ----XUL---
> >> <label value="Put your XUL here!" id="iddd"
> >> onclick="
> >> *    p.MyFuction();*
> >> "
> >> />
> >> -------
> >> ----JavaScript---
> >> var p = {
> >>     element1 : "" ,
> >>     Initial : function(){
> >>         this.element1 = document.getElementById("iddd");
> >>     },
> >>     MyFuction : function(){
> >>         this.element1.value="some text";
> >>     }
> >> }
> >>
> >> *window.addEventListener("load", p.Initial, true); *
> >> -------
> >>
> >> In this example I use p.Initial in proper time, but still nothing
> >> happens when click on label!
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
______
Ezequiel.

Http://www.ironicnet.com
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From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 26 13:10:10 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:10:10 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Javascript!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.168.1225043793.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <23d9f6b20810250658ibeec066x18f6588d9c2c7a61@mail.gmail.com>	<23d9f6b20810250817y795643aehe09ca16e072d1e87@mail.gmail.com>	<49034857.6020104@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810250851n9b19274qcd61d7badf24ddf4@mail.gmail.com>	<49034F1B.8000109@nxuy.com>	<23d9f6b20810251413w783034bdr9453958257085973@mail.gmail.com>	<4903982F.7060702@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>	<23d9f6b20810260043w3add8b51ted4e56c272094a65@mail.gmail.com>	<4904282E.3040401@mjwilson.demon.co.uk>	<23d9f6b20810260216g737a4e73jafbd32f44ec08dab@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.168.1225043793.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <ge2in8$10qo$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Ezequiel Calderara wrote:
> Also, is always preferable to have named variables instead of a single
> letter ones...
> 
> what does p stands for? u have to look for the definition of that variable
> or the assignment...
> the code, at least for me, should be semantic.. and easy to understand...
> 
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:16 AM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

I agree, but even (some of) the Mozilla developers/reviewers don't stick 
to this rule.  And we should have at least something like:

http://webkit.org/coding/coding-style.html

But we don't do we?  Preferable here (at mozdev.org) and MDC (another 
inherited flaw, and for many Open Source projects I'm afraid).

@Joe: dump() is your friend for issues like this, at least if you don't 
want to use a debugger ;)

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 20:45:09 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:15:09 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Unicode encoding (Hebrew,
	sinhala etc) using JAVASCRIPT & decoding using PHP
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810262045p700c46a4o4c50ea1703776bbb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Friends,

I need to know how can I send an unicode text like Hebrew through JAVASCRIPT
(encode) and get it from PHP (decode it) to save it to a MySQL database. I
tried it using several times, but always I get different characters in the
database rather than real hebrew or sinhala character. database supports for
UTF8. Please reply me ASAP.

thanks & regards,
-- 
~Silver Surfer~
Surfing through time & space
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From zilla at nxuy.com  Sun Oct 26 22:23:09 2008
From: zilla at nxuy.com (Roberto Bouzout (tito))
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:23:09 -0300
Subject: [Project_owners] Unicode encoding (Hebrew,
 sinhala etc) using JAVASCRIPT & decoding using PHP
In-Reply-To: <e6956fe10810262045p700c46a4o4c50ea1703776bbb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e6956fe10810262045p700c46a4o4c50ea1703776bbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4905503D.5050801@nxuy.com>

> I need to know how can I send an unicode text like Hebrew through
> JAVASCRIPT (encode) and get it from PHP (decode it) to save it to a
> MySQL database.

I do this:
	
	var url = 'http://www.domain.com/some/file?decoded='+X_EncodeUTF8('??????');
	var browser = window.getBrowser();
	var tab = browser.addTab(url);

function X_EncodeUTF8(string)
{
	try
	{
		return encodeURIComponent(string);
	}
	catch(err)
	{
		try
		{
			return encodeURI(string);
		}
		catch(err)
		{
			return (string);
		}
	}
}

PHP:
echo $_GET['decoded'];

/*

will print '??????'
Assuming that your server 'serve' the file as UTF-8 ( see: "text/html; charset=UTF-"8 at the response 	headers)

*/

I do the try and catch in the X_EncodeUTF8 because sometimes the argument maybe is malformed.. but valid.

alert(decodeURI('http://example.net/canci%f3n/'))

Error: URIError: malformed URI sequence
Source file: Javascript Command
Line: 1


From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 22:41:58 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:11:58 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Unicode encoding (Hebrew,
	sinhala etc) using JAVASCRIPT & decoding using PHP
In-Reply-To: <4905503D.5050801@nxuy.com>
References: <e6956fe10810262045p700c46a4o4c50ea1703776bbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4905503D.5050801@nxuy.com>
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810262241ibf496fp7ef1d97a3c7c092c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Roberto,
Thanks for your help. I did as you said and alert the sent text. Then it
shows the hebrew strings without any modification. But it didn't go to the
database until I put these lines before execute the mysql insert query.

mysql_query("SET character_set_client=utf8");
mysql_query("SET character_set_connection=utf8");
mysql_query("SET character_set_database=utf8");
mysql_query("SET character_set_results=utf8");
mysql_query("SET character_set_server=utf8");


Then It works nicely. But I thought only neccessity for inserting UNICODE
string to a database is create it in utf8_coalition .
Anyway problem solved.
Thanks & regards,
Manjula

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Roberto Bouzout (tito) <zilla at nxuy.com>wrote:

>  I need to know how can I send an unicode text like Hebrew through
>> JAVASCRIPT (encode) and get it from PHP (decode it) to save it to a
>> MySQL database.
>>
>
> I do this:
>
>        var url = 'http://www.domain.com/some/file?decoded='+X_EncodeUTF8('
> ??????');
>        var browser = window.getBrowser();
>        var tab = browser.addTab(url);
>
> function X_EncodeUTF8(string)
> {
>        try
>        {
>                return encodeURIComponent(string);
>        }
>        catch(err)
>        {
>                try
>                {
>                        return encodeURI(string);
>                }
>                catch(err)
>                {
>                        return (string);
>                }
>        }
> }
>
> PHP:
> echo $_GET['decoded'];
>
> /*
>
> will print '??????'
> Assuming that your server 'serve' the file as UTF-8 ( see: "text/html;
> charset=UTF-"8 at the response   headers)
>
> */
>
> I do the try and catch in the X_EncodeUTF8 because sometimes the argument
> maybe is malformed.. but valid.
>
> alert(decodeURI('http://example.net/canci%f3n/'))
>
> Error: URIError: malformed URI sequence
> Source file: Javascript Command
> Line: 1
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



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From eric.jung at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 27 06:09:41 2008
From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (eric.jung at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:09:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Redesign Ideas
Message-ID: <576253.13127.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Original Message ----
> From: Douglas E. Warner <silfreed at silfreed.net>


> -Doug
> 
> [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevRedesign2008

Curious why you added the year to the name of the document?

Eric


      

From silfreed at silfreed.net  Mon Oct 27 06:16:15 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:16:15 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] Mozdev Redesign Ideas
In-Reply-To: <576253.13127.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <576253.13127.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4905BF1F.2080105@silfreed.net>

eric.jung at yahoo.com wrote:
>> [1] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevRedesign2008
> 
> Curious why you added the year to the name of the document?

Just to keep it separate from future/previous redesigns.

-Doug

-- 
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Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 12:06:56 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:36:56 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I need to add sleep function in some procedure, I found some sleep function

function sleep(mTime)
{
  var sleeping = true;
  var now = new Date();
  var alarm;
  var startingMSeconds = now.getTime();
  while(sleeping){
     alarm = new Date();
     alarmMSeconds = alarm.getTime();
     if(alarmMSeconds - startingMSeconds > mTime)
        sleeping = false;
  }
}

but it causes program to hang, any better sleep function ?
P.S: I cant use setTimeout function either
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From dernotte at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 27 12:24:49 2008
From: dernotte at yahoo.com (Didier Ernotte)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <789441.53504.qm@web31007.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Javascript is not multiThreaded, you have to implement it manually with "yield" and "next".

Didier

--- On Mon, 10/27/08, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:
From: joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com>
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
To: "Mozdev Project Owners List" <project_owners at mozdev.org>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 3:06 PM

Hi

I need to add sleep function in some procedure, I found some sleep function

function sleep(mTime)
{
? var sleeping = true;
? var now = new Date();
? var alarm;
? var startingMSeconds = now.getTime();

? while(sleeping){
??? ?alarm = new Date();
??? ?alarmMSeconds = alarm.getTime();
??? ?if(alarmMSeconds - startingMSeconds > mTime)
??? ??? sleeping = false; 
? }
}

but it causes program to hang, any better sleep function ?

P.S: I cant use setTimeout function either

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Project_owners at mozdev.org
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From pete at mozdevgroup.com  Mon Oct 27 13:34:12 2008
From: pete at mozdevgroup.com (Pete Collins)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:34:12 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490625C4.5060308@mozdevgroup.com>

You can use nsITimer.


  http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/xpcom/threads/nsITimer.idl

--pete

-- 
Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc.
www.mozdevgroup.com
Mozilla Software Development Solutions
tel: 1-719-302-5811
fax: 1-719-302-5813


From fry.kun at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 13:52:06 2008
From: fry.kun at gmail.com (Konstantin Svist)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:52:06 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810271206l5da83f09kfd804ccc30b3b92c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490629F6.5010005@gmail.com>

You can use setTimeout (or setInterval). That will require you to make
the target loop into a function, though.


joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi
>
> I need to add sleep function in some procedure, I found some sleep
> function
>
> function sleep(mTime)
> {
>   var sleeping = true;
>   var now = new Date();
>   var alarm;
>   var startingMSeconds = now.getTime();
>   while(sleeping){
>      alarm = new Date();
>      alarmMSeconds = alarm.getTime();
>      if(alarmMSeconds - startingMSeconds > mTime)
>         sleeping = false;
>   }
> }
>
> but it causes program to hang, any better sleep function ?
> P.S: I cant use setTimeout function either
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>   


From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 27 16:52:42 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:52:42 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Sleep or wait function for JavaScript
In-Reply-To: <mailman.181.1225134427.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.181.1225134427.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <ge5k4e$pbl$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I need to add sleep function in some procedure, I found some sleep function

Let me start by asking you something: "Why do you need this?"

Is it perhaps because some function (feature) in your code needs to wait 
for other functions (features) to complete/finish?

If yes, then please don't use setTimeout() nor nsITimer but use the 
nsIObserverService to notify your code, or fire some event when it is done.

Fixed timers/delays are never a good option, because your computer might 
be either slower or faster than mine, making one of us wait just because 
the other has a slower CPU/hardware.

Also, some people use recursive calls (too much) but they can be quiet 
harmful when things get broken, and stall the UI.

Cheers,
/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 23:04:56 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:34:56 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side of
	the browser?
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Friends,

Can we change the position of a sidebar of firefox to the right side of the
browser, Instead of its' default left side location?

thanks & regards,
-- 
~Silver Surfer~
Surfing through time & space
http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
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From srazzano at gmail.com  Mon Oct 27 23:40:33 2008
From: srazzano at gmail.com (Andrew Razzano)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:40:33 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e0feff10810272340p52f82cc0w1f2de9eed3f7bfdb@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Silver Surfer
<silver.surfer444 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> Can we change the position of a sidebar of firefox to the right side of the
> browser, Instead of its' default left side location?
>
> thanks & regards,
> --
> ~Silver Surfer~
> Surfing through time & space
> http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
@namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
);
hbox#browser {
  direction: rtl !important;
}
hbox#browser > vbox {
  direction: ltr !important;
}


-- 
Sonny
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From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 00:28:09 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:28:09 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Andrew Razzano wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Silver Surfer
> <silver.surfer444 at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> Can we change the position of a sidebar of firefox to the right side of the
>> browser, Instead of its' default left side location?
>>
>> thanks & regards,
>> --
>> ~Silver Surfer~
>> Surfing through time & space
>> http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>>
> @namespace url(http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
> );
> hbox#browser {
>   direction: rtl !important;
> }
> hbox#browser > vbox {
>   direction: ltr !important;
> }

Or set/change the ordinal ;)

Cheers,
/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 28 01:59:50 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:29:50 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810280159m1dea4111y49a08094bb10ebdb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Andrew,
Thank you very much. It worked.

Hi HJ,
I dont know what is ordinal, Can you please explain it and how to use that.

thanks & regards,
Manjula
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla <
bugs4hj at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Andrew Razzano wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Silver Surfer
>> <silver.surfer444 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>   Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> Can we change the position of a sidebar of firefox to the right side of
>>> the
>>> browser, Instead of its' default left side location?
>>>
>>> thanks & regards,
>>> --
>>> ~Silver Surfer~
>>> Surfing through time & space
>>> http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Project_owners mailing list
>>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>>
>>>
>>> @namespace url(
>> http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul
>> );
>> hbox#browser {
>>  direction: rtl !important;
>> }
>> hbox#browser > vbox {
>>  direction: ltr !important;
>> }
>>
>
> Or set/change the ordinal ;)
>
> Cheers,
> /HJ
>
> --
> I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
> Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
> http://www.livestrong.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
~Silver Surfer~
Surfing through time & space
http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
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From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 28 13:05:35 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:05:35 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.188.1225184400.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>	<mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.188.1225184400.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <ge7r6h$1d2p$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

Silver Surfer wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> Thank you very much. It worked.
> 
> Hi HJ,
> I dont know what is ordinal, Can you please explain it and how to use that.

That's something (a property) I use to change the location of tabs 
(top/bottom) in the browser for MultiZilla.

Just like using hbox.className = "myClass" and vbox.className = 
"myClass" to add/specify a certain class for, in this case two different 
types of boxes, you can use hbox.property = (integer value) or 
vbox.property = (integer value) to change the order.

Here's additional info you might find interesting to read:
https://developer.mozilla.org/En/XUL/Property/Ordinal
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL/Attribute/ordinal

Cheers,
/HJ

-- 
I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
http://www.livestrong.org

From silver.surfer444 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 29 00:42:25 2008
From: silver.surfer444 at gmail.com (Silver Surfer)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:12:25 +0530
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <ge7r6h$1d2p$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.188.1225184400.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<ge7r6h$1d2p$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <e6956fe10810290042h10ae58a8m8726d59047336f54@mail.gmail.com>

Hi HJ,

Thank you very much for the information.

thanks & regards,
Manjula

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:35 AM, HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla <
bugs4hj at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Silver Surfer wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>> Thank you very much. It worked.
>>
>> Hi HJ,
>> I dont know what is ordinal, Can you please explain it and how to use
>> that.
>>
>
> That's something (a property) I use to change the location of tabs
> (top/bottom) in the browser for MultiZilla.
>
> Just like using hbox.className = "myClass" and vbox.className = "myClass"
> to add/specify a certain class for, in this case two different types of
> boxes, you can use hbox.property = (integer value) or vbox.property =
> (integer value) to change the order.
>
> Here's additional info you might find interesting to read:
> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/XUL/Property/Ordinal
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XUL/Attribute/ordinal
>
>
> Cheers,
> /HJ
>
> --
> I am HJ and I LIVE STRONG.
> Supporter of the Lance Armstrong Foundation
> http://www.livestrong.org
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>



-- 
~Silver Surfer~
Surfing through time & space
http://risingofsilversurfer.blogspot.com/
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From bugs4hj at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 29 01:55:04 2008
From: bugs4hj at yahoo.com (HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:55:04 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] Can we set the firefox sidebar in right side
	of the browser?
In-Reply-To: <ge7r6h$1d2p$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <e6956fe10810272304k2ced04wad98186241d983d9@mail.gmail.com>	<mailman.186.1225176044.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<ge6eq9$2vn6$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<mailman.188.1225184400.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<ge7r6h$1d2p$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <ge9897$2ba9$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

HJ van Rantwijk, MultiZilla wrote:
> Just like using hbox.className = "myClass" and vbox.className = 
> "myClass" to add/specify a certain class for, in this case two different 
> types of boxes, you can use hbox.property = (integer value) or 
> vbox.property = (integer value) to change the order.

.property in the examples above should be replaced with .ordinal (just 
for the record).

From stevel at songbirdnest.com  Wed Oct 29 09:06:00 2008
From: stevel at songbirdnest.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:06:00 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
Message-ID: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com>

Is there a way for a project to have multiple Hg repos on mozdev?

cheers,
steve

-- 
stephen lau | stevel at songbirdnest.com | www.whacked.net


From silfreed at silfreed.net  Wed Oct 29 10:17:45 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:17:45 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com>
Message-ID: <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>

Stephen Lau wrote:
> Is there a way for a project to have multiple Hg repos on mozdev?

Separate repos?  No; the best you could do would be moving your main source 
dir into a separate directory (but hg doesn't do subdir checkouts).

This is the second time I've been asked about this (the other was on IRC), so 
could you tell me why this would be useful?  For posting branches?  Would mq 
or named branches be a better way of doing this?

Thanks for your help in figuring out what we should do here.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From stevel at songbirdnest.com  Wed Oct 29 10:21:02 2008
From: stevel at songbirdnest.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:21:02 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com> <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>

On 10/29/08 10:17 AM, Douglas E. Warner wrote:
> Stephen Lau wrote:
>> Is there a way for a project to have multiple Hg repos on mozdev?
>
> Separate repos?  No; the best you could do would be moving your main 
> source dir into a separate directory (but hg doesn't do subdir 
> checkouts).
>
> This is the second time I've been asked about this (the other was on 
> IRC), so could you tell me why this would be useful?  For posting 
> branches?  Would mq or named branches be a better way of doing this?
>
> Thanks for your help in figuring out what we should do here.
>
Hey Doug,
Not quite sure how to summarise it... perhaps "separate, but related" 
would be the best way.  I have my project, mashTape, which in turn can 
be extended by having multiple providers (which are built as add-ons 
themselves).  I'd like to have a providers-repository to place the code 
for those add-ons to my add-on.  They aren't big enough to warrant their 
own mozdev project for each one, but I don't want to lump them into the 
main source repo either.

cheers,
steve

-- 
stephen lau | stevel at songbirdnest.com | www.whacked.net


From silfreed at silfreed.net  Wed Oct 29 10:35:25 2008
From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:35:25 -0400
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com> <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
	<49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
Message-ID: <49089EDD.7030909@silfreed.net>

Stephen Lau wrote:
> Not quite sure how to summarise it... perhaps "separate, but related" 
> would be the best way.  I have my project, mashTape, which in turn can 
> be extended by having multiple providers (which are built as add-ons 
> themselves).  I'd like to have a providers-repository to place the code 
> for those add-ons to my add-on.  They aren't big enough to warrant their 
> own mozdev project for each one, but I don't want to lump them into the 
> main source repo either.

Mozdev doesn't have an authorization system that would be complex enough to do 
what you want either, so these contributors would have to be added onto your 
project where they could commit to your website or main code base.

Hopefully in the near future project creation will be much quicker and people 
like this that need a project setup will be able to request it and have it 
done without the pain involved right now.

-Doug

-- 
Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org

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From stevel at songbirdnest.com  Wed Oct 29 11:11:32 2008
From: stevel at songbirdnest.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:32 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <49089EDD.7030909@silfreed.net>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com>
	<49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>	<49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
	<49089EDD.7030909@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <4908A754.3000909@songbirdnest.com>

On 10/29/08 10:35 AM, Douglas E. Warner wrote:
 > Stephen Lau wrote:
 >> Not quite sure how to summarise it... perhaps "separate, but 
related" would be the best way.  I have my project, mashTape, which in 
turn can be extended by having multiple providers (which are built as 
add-ons themselves).  I'd like to have a providers-repository to place 
the code for those add-ons to my add-on.  They aren't big enough to 
warrant their own mozdev project for each one, but I don't want to lump 
them into the main source repo either.
 >
 > Mozdev doesn't have an authorization system that would be complex 
enough to do what you want either, so these contributors would have to 
be added onto your project where they could commit to your website or 
main code base.
Yeah that's fine - my concern wasn't for access reasons, more just 
logical code repo separation.
 > Hopefully in the near future project creation will be much quicker 
and people like this that need a project setup will be able to request 
it and have it done without the pain involved right now.
I'm looking forward to that near future. :)

thanks,
steve

-- 
stephen lau | stevel at songbirdnest.com | www.whacked.net


From brian at mozdev.org  Wed Oct 29 15:09:40 2008
From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:09:40 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com> <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
	<49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
Message-ID: <4908DF24.4070805@mozdev.org>

Stephen Lau wrote:
> Not quite sure how to summarise it... perhaps "separate, but related" 
> would be the best way.  I have my project, mashTape, which in turn can 
> be extended by having multiple providers (which are built as add-ons 
> themselves).  I'd like to have a providers-repository to place the code 
> for those add-ons to my add-on.  They aren't big enough to warrant their 
> own mozdev project for each one, but I don't want to lump them into the 
> main source repo either.

Can't you just setup another project for the providers which would give 
you another repos?

- Brian

From stevel at songbirdnest.com  Wed Oct 29 15:14:39 2008
From: stevel at songbirdnest.com (Stephen Lau)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:14:39 -0700
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <4908DF24.4070805@mozdev.org>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com>
	<49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>	<49089B7E.3010707@songbirdnest.com>
	<4908DF24.4070805@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <4908E04F.3020108@songbirdnest.com>

On 10/29/08 3:09 PM, Brian King wrote:
> Stephen Lau wrote:
>> Not quite sure how to summarise it... perhaps "separate, but related" 
>> would be the best way.  I have my project, mashTape, which in turn 
>> can be extended by having multiple providers (which are built as 
>> add-ons themselves).  I'd like to have a providers-repository to 
>> place the code for those add-ons to my add-on.  They aren't big 
>> enough to warrant their own mozdev project for each one, but I don't 
>> want to lump them into the main source repo either.
>
> Can't you just setup another project for the providers which would 
> give you another repos?
>
> - Brian
I suppose so; but my thinking was that since they don't really stand on 
their own, it would be nicer if I could encompass them under the 
mashTape mozdev project.

Given that's not currently possible, I'll probably do what you suggest 
for now :)

cheers,
steve

-- 
stephen lau | stevel at songbirdnest.com | www.whacked.net


From updatescanner at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 03:28:15 2008
From: updatescanner at gmail.com (updatescanner at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:28:15 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] multiple repos for a project
In-Reply-To: <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
References: <490889E8.9000906@songbirdnest.com> <49089AB9.4000100@silfreed.net>
Message-ID: <a3ea80a90810300328w1aafc017g7353322da145feb4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Doug,

Multiple hg repos would be useful for me.. mainly for work on multiple
branches, as you suggest.

As you suggest, named branches are one solution, but are not ideal. I'm no
hg expert, but there seem to be a number of people recommending using
multiple repos instead of named branches, for the following reasons:
* More difficult to selectively push/pull changes between branches
* Apparently the cgi scripts don't differentiate between named branches -
you just get a combined chronological list of changes to all named branches
* Can't delete (or hide) named branches
* Can't rename named branches

Named branches are more useful for tagging than for branching, but they're
stuch with a slightly misleading name!

Thanks for all your great work,
Pete

2008/10/29 Douglas E. Warner <silfreed at silfreed.net>

> Stephen Lau wrote:
>
>> Is there a way for a project to have multiple Hg repos on mozdev?
>>
>
> Separate repos?  No; the best you could do would be moving your main source
> dir into a separate directory (but hg doesn't do subdir checkouts).
>
> This is the second time I've been asked about this (the other was on IRC),
> so could you tell me why this would be useful?  For posting branches?  Would
> mq or named branches be a better way of doing this?
>
> Thanks for your help in figuring out what we should do here.
>
> -Doug
>
> --
> Douglas E. Warner    <silfreed at silfreed.net>    Site Developer
> Mozdev.org           http://www.mozdev.org
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 06:17:16 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:47:16 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810300617t4755b43ble01051ed52502a53@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I want some xul element which can handle commands like "windows command
prompt"

I can redirect output of some program to my extension, but when I send them
to textbox there are lots of unknown chars, so I wonder if there is any
other elements which can handle these standard commands without extra
programing

Any Idea ?
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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Thu Oct 30 07:46:44 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:46:44 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
In-Reply-To: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

joe ertaba wrote:

> I can redirect output of some program to my extension, but when I send 
> them to textbox there are lots of unknown chars, so I wonder if there 
> is any other elements which can handle these standard commands without 
> extra programing
>
> Any Idea ?

Did you read the output using the correct character set? Command prompt 
usually uses the application charset (typically Windows-1252) although 
the chcp command can change this at least for cmd.exe itself.

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 09:40:22 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:10:22 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
In-Reply-To: <gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810300940n40b4ca40q17a80da5ac87b887@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Neil

Yes I read output with correct set of chars, I can do analysis to find out
with chars are command and with are text, I wounder if there is a standard
element which can do this work (send whole chars and it show text in correct
format,...)?

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Neil <neil at parkwaycc.co.uk> wrote:

> joe ertaba wrote:
>
>  I can redirect output of some program to my extension, but when I send
>> them to textbox there are lots of unknown chars, so I wonder if there is any
>> other elements which can handle these standard commands without extra
>> programing
>>
>> Any Idea ?
>>
>
> Did you read the output using the correct character set? Command prompt
> usually uses the application charset (typically Windows-1252) although the
> chcp command can change this at least for cmd.exe itself.
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 09:40:22 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:10:22 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
In-Reply-To: <gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810300940n40b4ca40q17a80da5ac87b887@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Neil

Yes I read output with correct set of chars, I can do analysis to find out
with chars are command and with are text, I wounder if there is a standard
element which can do this work (send whole chars and it show text in correct
format,...)?

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Neil <neil at parkwaycc.co.uk> wrote:

> joe ertaba wrote:
>
>  I can redirect output of some program to my extension, but when I send
>> them to textbox there are lots of unknown chars, so I wonder if there is any
>> other elements which can handle these standard commands without extra
>> programing
>>
>> Any Idea ?
>>
>
> Did you read the output using the correct character set? Command prompt
> usually uses the application charset (typically Windows-1252) although the
> chcp command can change this at least for cmd.exe itself.
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
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From belaviyo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 10:06:52 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:36:52 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810300940n40b4ca40q17a80da5ac87b887@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
	<gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>
	<23d9f6b20810300940n40b4ca40q17a80da5ac87b887@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810301006q7770f7cdy96505394c716c56d@mail.gmail.com>

One problem if I want to analyze text(using standard Ascii control codes)
first is that it is time consuming work!
here is an example: (txt is command which I received )

    for(x=0; x<txt.length; x++){
        var chr = txt.substr(x,1);
        var code = chr.charCodeAt();

        switch(code){
        case 0:
            break;
        case 8:
            textbox.value =
textbox.value.substring(0,textbox.value.length-2);
            break;
        .........
        .........
        .........
        default:
            this.textbox.value += txt.substr(x,1);
        }
    }

In this case I should add this procedure instead of sending whole command to
the element (textbox here)
and such works in JavaScript needs lots of time :(

Any Idea ?

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:10 PM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Neil
>
> Yes I read output with correct set of chars, I can do analysis to find out
> with chars are command and with are text, I wounder if there is a standard
> element which can do this work (send whole chars and it show text in correct
> format,...)?
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Neil <neil at parkwaycc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> joe ertaba wrote:
>>
>>  I can redirect output of some program to my extension, but when I send
>>> them to textbox there are lots of unknown chars, so I wonder if there is any
>>> other elements which can handle these standard commands without extra
>>> programing
>>>
>>> Any Idea ?
>>>
>>
>> Did you read the output using the correct character set? Command prompt
>> usually uses the application charset (typically Windows-1252) although the
>> chcp command can change this at least for cmd.exe itself.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Project_owners mailing list
>> Project_owners at mozdev.org
>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>>
>
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From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk  Thu Oct 30 10:53:12 2008
From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:53:12 +0000
Subject: [Project_owners] xul element
In-Reply-To: <mailman.211.1225386422.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
References: <mailman.207.1225372643.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>	<gechck$eul$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>	<23d9f6b20810300940n40b4ca40q17a80da5ac87b887@mail.gmail.com>
	<mailman.211.1225386422.63231.project_owners@mozdev.org>
Message-ID: <gecsa8$1fk8$1@mozdev.mozdev.org>

joe ertaba wrote:

> One problem if I want to analyze text(using standard Ascii control 
> codes) first is that it is time consuming work!

Oh, I didn't realise you meant control codes... sorry but I don't know 
of any way of processing them (normal editing distinguishes between 
characters and control codes via the keyCode and charCode properties).

From belaviyo at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 23:43:19 2008
From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:13:19 +0330
Subject: [Project_owners] XML encoding
Message-ID: <23d9f6b20810302343u176e1ee2v68f65c4ffffedb6e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have found that encoding does not work in xul, here is an example

<?xml version="1.0"* encoding="ISO-8859-1"*?>
<?xml-stylesheet href="chrome://global/skin/" type="text/css"?>
<window id="yourwindow" xmlns="
http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul">
<script type="text/javascript">
<![CDATA[
// put some js code here
]]>
</script>
<label value="Click on ME" onclick="
value= '1'+String.fromCharCode(8)+'3'
"/>
</window>

Here is list of character encoding for Iso-8859-1 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso-8859-1), It must support backspace,.... but
why noting happens in my example ?
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From srazzano at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 23:51:48 2008
From: srazzano at gmail.com (Andrew Razzano)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:51:48 -0600
Subject: [Project_owners] XML encoding
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810302343u176e1ee2v68f65c4ffffedb6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810302343u176e1ee2v68f65c4ffffedb6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e0feff10810302351m75418d4ax7a35cb3463e23478@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:43 AM, joe ertaba <belaviyo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have found that encoding does not work in xul, here is an example
>
> <?xml version="1.0"* encoding="ISO-8859-1"*?>
> <?xml-stylesheet href="chrome://global/skin/" type="text/css"?>
> <window id="yourwindow" xmlns="
> http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul">
> <script type="text/javascript">
> <![CDATA[
> // put some js code here
> ]]>
> </script>
> <label value="Click on ME" onclick="
> value= '1'+String.fromCharCode(8)+'3'
> "/>
> </window>
>
> Here is list of character encoding for Iso-8859-1 (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso-8859-1), It must support backspace,....
> but why noting happens in my example ?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Project_owners mailing list
> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
>
>
Hi Joe,
I know very little in this area but onclick=" needs another quotation mark
perhaps.

-- 
Sonny
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From schmid-thomas at gmx.net  Fri Oct 31 13:52:21 2008
From: schmid-thomas at gmx.net (Thomas Schmid)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:52:21 +0100
Subject: [Project_owners] XML encoding
In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20810302343u176e1ee2v68f65c4ffffedb6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23d9f6b20810302343u176e1ee2v68f65c4ffffedb6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <490B7005.1010000@gmx.net>

Hi,

encoding is working the way it should

see:
   http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-controls

Regards

Thomas

On 31.10.2008 07:43, joe ertaba wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have found that encoding does not work in xul, here is an example
>
> <?xml version="1.0"* encoding="ISO-8859-1"*?>
> <?xml-stylesheet href="chrome://global/skin/" type="text/css"?>
> <window id="yourwindow" 
> xmlns="http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul">
> <script type="text/javascript">
> <![CDATA[
> // put some js code here
> ]]>
> </script>
> <label value="Click on ME" onclick="
> value= '1'+String.fromCharCode(8)+'3'
> "/>
> </window>
>
> Here is list of character encoding for Iso-8859-1 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso-8859-1), It must support 
> backspace,.... but why noting happens in my example ?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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