From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 12:32:46 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:32:46 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Dynamic menupopup Message-ID: Hi, For my Thunderbird extension I've added some fixed menuitems, but I dynamically switch the key attribute on them. After changing the key, the menu isn't updated, but the key combinations have changed and also when I use DOM Inspector, I see that the key combinations and acceltexts have traded place. I've tried some methods to get the menu refreshed, so the labels and acceltexts show like they should, but the easiest way I found was so far involved setting the menuitems to hidden, showing the menu, hiding the menu and restoring the menuitems, but I can't help but thinking there's got to be an easier way to get this done. Can't find it in the docs, though, so if anyone can help me out. Thanks in advance, Don't know if it matters, but it's about menuitems in a toolbar menu, not a context menu. Onno From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk Wed Apr 2 02:17:56 2008 From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:17:56 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Dynamic menupopup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Onno Ekker wrote: > After changing the key, the menu isn't updated, but the key > combinations have changed and also when I use DOM Inspector, I see > that the key combinations and acceltexts have traded place. Whoa. this has never worked properly! An attempt was made to fix it over six years ago in bug 99853 although as you notice it never worked properly; the acceltext has been set on the menuitem itself, but unfortunately using the "quiet" flag which means that it doesn't propagate to the places that need it. Time for bugzilla! From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 03:45:45 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:45:45 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Dynamic menupopup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F363D9.2020704@gmail.com> Neil wrote: > Onno Ekker wrote: > > >> After changing the key, the menu isn't updated, but the key >> combinations have changed and also when I use DOM Inspector, I see >> that the key combinations and acceltexts have traded place. >> > > Whoa. this has never worked properly! An attempt was made to fix it over > six years ago in bug 99853 although as you notice it never worked > properly; the acceltext has been set on the menuitem itself, but > unfortunately using the "quiet" flag which means that it doesn't > propagate to the places that need it. Time for bugzilla! > Thanks bigtime! Mozilla bug 99853 says it's Resolved and Fixed, but apparantly it isn't fixed so that the menu's get auto updated. I'll try some more using the info there, e.g. by first removing the keys and than setting them again. In comment #5 it's suggested to work like that and the patch is based along those lines according to comment #6. Or can I change the bits (frame_state_bit) directly from javascript, so that I don't have to work around it? Or did you suggest I'd reopen the bug or file a new one with your bugzilla time? I'll try some more, when I get back to my development machine (I'm at work now...) Onno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/c014ce95/attachment.html From enndeakin at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 04:49:16 2008 From: enndeakin at gmail.com (Neil Deakin) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Dynamic menupopup In-Reply-To: <47F363D9.2020704@gmail.com> References: <47F363D9.2020704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F372BC.50102@gmail.com> > Or can I change the bits (frame_state_bit) directly from javascript, > so that I don't have to work around it? No, but you might be able to get it to work by clearing the acceltext attribute first before changing the key, from a simple glance at the code. > Or did you suggest I'd reopen the bug or file a new one with your > bugzilla time? You should file a new bug with a simple testcase. Neil From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 2 08:18:02 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:18:02 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Reminder: Mozdev PHP 5 upgrade scheduled for March 31st In-Reply-To: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <200803251204.54523.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <200804021118.02982.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 12:04:54 Douglas E. Warner wrote: > Mozdev.org is looking to update its web server stack from Apache 1.3 and > PHP 4 to Apache 2.2 and PHP 5. ?The main reason for doing this is to be > running supported versions of software, as well as providing security and > feature improvements. The upgrade has been completed. Let us know if you run into any problems that you think are the result of the upgrade. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/5aefd59d/attachment.bin From alta88 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 08:21:54 2008 From: alta88 at gmail.com (alta88[nntp]) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:21:54 -0600 Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions, Project overview pages, and file release system In-Reply-To: References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net> <47ECBAEF.3030001@gmail.com> Message-ID: ---On 2008.Mar.28 07:03 AM, Douglas E. Warner wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2008 05:31:27 Onno Ekker wrote: >> Can you add file_management.html url to the >> https://www.mozdev.org/profile/index.html ? > > Done, thanks; It was previously linked from the "All Resources" page, but I > missed this one. > in All Resources - Account Tools you forgot to update the file management link text... From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 2 08:36:33 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Secure installation of extensions, Project overview pages, and file release system In-Reply-To: References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <200804021136.33437.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Wednesday 02 April 2008 11:21:54 alta88[nntp] wrote: > in All Resources - Account Tools you forgot to update the file > management link text... Thanks for catching that - Fixed. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/cb78b405/attachment.bin From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 2 08:44:03 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Project tagging available In-Reply-To: <44685.70388.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <44685.70388.qm@web33001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200804021144.03181.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Saturday 29 March 2008 11:58:22 David Boswell wrote: > > Some time ago I have tried changing the tags for my project Forward, > > but I ended up with all my tags being removed. > > There may be other reasons why your tags aren't showing up. ?Doug can > probably provide more information about that. We've been working on improving the documentation on what is appropriate use of tags and have written a doc here: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevProjectTagging It goes over what we feel are good uses of tags; the biggest things are that: * tags are used by users for recognizing what they're looking for, not as search keywords * tags should not be unique to a project If you submit some tags that you think should show up and aren't seeing them, feel free to email feedback at mozdev.org and we can discuss what's going on. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/ada9d22d/attachment.bin From myk at mozilla.org Wed Apr 2 09:45:12 2008 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:45:12 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap Message-ID: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> I'm on the board of the Mozdev organization , and we're in the process of reviewing our roadmap for development . We're a small organization with limited resources, so we can't do everything that would be useful, and it makes sense to leverage the tooling taking place elsewhere in the Mozilla community. At the same time, I want Mozdev to blaze a trail on the usability and functionality of key services like website development/deployment tools and discussion forums. And it should be super-easy to set up and manage a project on Mozdev. So I am proposing that we revise the roadmap to make the following three items the top priorities for the organization: 1. *Add one additional revision control system, and deprecate CVS.* The two systems in the running are Subversion and Mercurial, and they each have their advantages. Subversion's chief advantages are its similarity to CVS and familiarity to some existing project owners, while Mercurial's are its modern design (including support for distributed development) and its momentum in the Mozilla community. Overall, I think we're better off adding Mercurial, which has the full weight of Mozilla tooling efforts behind it and which is on track to become the most popular system in the Mozilla community (until the next one comes along, anyway). So I think we should add Mercurial to the site. But this would not preclude adding Subversion as well at some point if resources became available to deploy and maintain it. 2. *Implement a new website hosting service with simple WYSIWYG wiki publishing and scp/sftp/ftps file upload.* Here we're tackling two constituencies at once: those who just want a simple hosting option where it is easy to create and edit pages, and those who want complete control over the files that make up their site. The file upload option also addresses the needs of users who generally want the simple approach but occasionally need to upload a file or two (f.e. an image to display on a page in the wiki or a presentation in PDF format). 3. *Automate project creation and management so that project creation requests can be addressed in minutes or hours and users can self-manage their projects.* This item combines the /automate project creation process/ and /centralized account management system/ items from the second and third priority groups, respectively, on the existing roadmap . I think we should continue to require approval of new project requests from unknown people but no longer require approval of those from known, trusted people like existing project owners, so that trusted people can have a new project up and running in seconds. There are certainly many other changes that would be beneficial, like integrating forums, feeds, mailing lists, and newsgroups, so users can pick their preferred delivery format and get the same communications as on every other channel. But these three changes would make a big difference in the usability and functionality of the site, and I think we should make them our top priorities. Thoughts? -myk [also posted to my blog ] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/2792a551/attachment-0001.html From pete at mozdevgroup.com Wed Apr 2 10:45:38 2008 From: pete at mozdevgroup.com (Pete Collins) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:45:38 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <47F3C642.7010107@mozdevgroup.com> > 1. > > > > > 2. *Implement a new website hosting service with simple WYSIWYG > wiki publishing and scp/sftp/ftps file upload.* > For security reasons, I would advise against this. Uploads are safer using version control and or browser file upload. -- Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc. www.mozdevgroup.com Mozilla Software Development Solutions tel: 1-719-302-5811 fax: 1-719-302-5813 From jesper at heroes-addon.dk Wed Apr 2 10:04:29 2008 From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:04:29 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <47F3BC9D.9050506@heroes-addon.dk> Myk Melez wrote: > I'm on the board of the Mozdev organization > , and we're in the process of > reviewing our roadmap for development > . *> 1. Add one additional revision control system, and deprecate CVS.* uhmm... Thought this already was on the roadmap. But deprecate CVS? No, not really. * > 2. Implement a new website hosting service with simple WYSIWYG wiki publishing and scp/sftp/ftps file upload.* * *I think there is more important things to do. * > 3. Automate project creation and management so that project creation requests can be addressed in minutes or hours and users can self-manage their projects.* What's the rush? And it's already on the roadmap. I actually like the roadmap compared to the proposed. From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk Wed Apr 2 10:00:25 2008 From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:00:25 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Dynamic menupopup In-Reply-To: References: <47F363D9.2020704@gmail.com> Message-ID: Neil Deakin wrote: > Onno Ekker > >> Or can I change the bits (frame_state_bit) directly from javascript, >> so that I don't have to work around it? > > No, but you might be able to get it to work by clearing the acceltext > attribute first before changing the key, from a simple glance at the code. That's not the (only) problem - the acceltext is set without notification, so the XBL child label is never updated. >> Or did you suggest I'd reopen the bug or file a new one with your >> bugzilla time? > > You should file a new bug with a simple testcase. Actually SeaMonkey/Thunderbird's Compose window is a test case - it dynamically adds or removes the key for the File/Send option when you go on or offline. But yes, file a new bug, and then post its link here as I already have a possible patch for it. From alta88 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:22:45 2008 From: alta88 at gmail.com (alta88[nntp]) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:22:45 -0600 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---On 2008.Apr.02 10:45 AM, Myk Melez wrote: > I'm on the board of the Mozdev organization > , and we're in the process of > reviewing our roadmap for development > . > I would have to say far more important than any of these is implementing a simple to use (for authors) automatic secure update mechanism. A l? AMO. There is/has been great dissatisfaction with AMO and this one critical feature is really the only show stopper from people coming to alternatives. I'll bet someone could even take advantage of the new Search Addons to make a mod so that it can also check mozdev. I've found the initial project setup pretty straightforward, sure it could be 1 click (esp with forums), but it's about 3 clicks now, not 10.. From ajvincent at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:26:27 2008 From: ajvincent at gmail.com (Alex Vincent) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:26:27 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> Message-ID: <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Myk Melez wrote: So I think we should add Mercurial to the site. But this would not preclude adding Subversion as well at some point if resources became available to deploy and maintain it. Here's my perspective: * The familiarity of Subversion is a big plus for me, although I will obviously have to learn Mercurial anyway for Mozilla 2.x work. * Not having Mercurial as part of the current MozillaBuild package hurts on Windows. A lot. Guess what my primary platform is... * What I use mozdev for, with Verbosio, is quite different than almost everyone else. Most people here build extensions. I'm building a whole app, with a modified XULRunner base. So what I say here may not be relevant to everyone else's situations. :-) * If Mozilla 1.9.x will also have a constantly-maintained Mercurial repository, then it might actually be better for me to use Mercurial directly, although I'm not sure mozdev would appreciate me placing the whole Mozilla source there... alternatively, I can always maintain a patch set, and make checking out of Moz1.9 part of the checkout process. (This alternate is how I was approaching my project on the assumption of SVN.) * I freaking hate CVS now. Whatever the community decides, I think the decision should be made quickly, and implemented quickly. * By "deprecating CVS", I assume we mean new projects should not be instituted on CVS unless the project owner explicitly requests it. I'd be in favor of that. CVS is just too much pain compared to more modern systems. -- "The first step in confirming there is a bug in someone else's work is confirming there are no bugs in your own." -- Alexander J. Vincent, June 30, 2001 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080402/501c8646/attachment.html From pete at mozdevgroup.com Wed Apr 2 13:00:17 2008 From: pete at mozdevgroup.com (Pete Collins) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:00:17 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F3E5D1.1020906@mozdevgroup.com> > * By "deprecating CVS", I assume we mean new projects should not be > instituted on CVS unless the project owner explicitly requests it. > I'd be in favor of that. CVS is just too much pain compared to more > modern systems. It's funny, I've been using cvs for over a decade now and never noticed any real problems w/ it ... But I'm all for a better and easier to use revision control system is there is one. --pete -- Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc. www.mozdevgroup.com Mozilla Software Development Solutions tel: 1-719-302-5811 fax: 1-719-302-5813 From buanzo at buanzo.com.ar Wed Apr 2 13:06:33 2008 From: buanzo at buanzo.com.ar (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:06:33 -0300 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3E5D1.1020906@mozdevgroup.com> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> <47F3E5D1.1020906@mozdevgroup.com> Message-ID: <47F3E749.10101@buanzo.com.ar> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Pete Collins wrote: | It's funny, I've been using cvs for over a decade now and never noticed | any real problems w/ it ... It all comes down to your needs. When I work by myself, I prefer CVS. When working with a team, SVN. Yeah, I know both should do well in the team area, but... I've had enough problems with CVS :P | But I'm all for a better and easier to use revision control system is | there is one. Subversion is quite good, really. For anyone interested, here you have a quite nice "CVS vs. Subversion" comparison: http://www.pushok.com/soft_svn_vscvs.php A couple of interesting pages, with different perspectives: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/CVS_vs_SVN http://weblogs.asp.net/astopford/archive/2004/11/05/253029.aspx - -- Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman Reliable inter-continental Mail Relay Service - Ask me! Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8+dIAlpOsGhXcE0RCgrjAJ0SDSQ+Ov90+7+YHyDqQ2R7Me0DDwCdGLMv hog1XUuPSTaPqsjFUScUmOI= =Aw2U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From myk at mozilla.org Thu Apr 3 09:17:14 2008 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3BC9D.9050506@heroes-addon.dk> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <47F3BC9D.9050506@heroes-addon.dk> Message-ID: <47F5030A.3020304@mozilla.org> Jesper Staun Hansen wrote: > > 3. Automate project creation and management so that project creation > requests can be addressed in minutes or hours and users can self-manage > their projects.* > > What's the rush? And it's already on the roadmap. > It's already on the roadmap, but it's currently listed as a second-tier priority. My proposal is to make it a top priority. The "rush" is that I think it's a key issue affecting Mozdev's attractiveness to potential project owners who want to get up and running quickly. It also impacts existing project owners who want to get a new project up with a minimum of fuss and delay. -myk From myk at mozilla.org Thu Apr 3 09:21:52 2008 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:21:52 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <47F3C642.7010107@mozdevgroup.com> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <47F3C642.7010107@mozdevgroup.com> Message-ID: <47F50420.1040707@mozilla.org> Pete Collins wrote: > For security reasons, I would advise against this. Uploads are safer > using version control and or browser file upload. > Mozilla IT has been deploying a new secure file upload and management strategy for stage.mozilla.org that we could probably reuse. I agree that version control is safer, because it's easier to correct mistakes, but direct file manipulation is simpler and an oft-requested feature (and for folks who want the safety, it's pretty easy to check the files into version control as well). Browser file upload is a good idea that we should implement as a super-simple basic file upload solution whether or not we also enable scp/sftp/ftps upload. -myk From myk at mozilla.org Thu Apr 3 09:29:14 2008 From: myk at mozilla.org (Myk Melez) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:29:14 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F505DA.5090603@mozilla.org> Alex Vincent wrote: > * Not having Mercurial as part of the current MozillaBuild package > hurts on Windows. A lot. Guess what my primary platform is... Hmm, this seems like something the Mozilla folks would be working on. Is there a bug on this? > * If Mozilla 1.9.x will also have a constantly-maintained Mercurial > repository, then it might actually be better for me to use Mercurial > directly, That's the plan. > although I'm not sure mozdev would appreciate me placing the whole > Mozilla source there... alternatively, I can always maintain a patch > set, and make checking out of Moz1.9 part of the checkout process. > (This alternate is how I was approaching my project on the assumption > of SVN.) I guess that depends on the size of the repository and the number of projects that want this. > * By "deprecating CVS", I assume we mean new projects should not be > instituted on CVS unless the project owner explicitly requests it. > I'd be in favor of that. CVS is just too much pain compared to more > modern systems. Right. We'd still provide CVS to projects that have good cause to use it, but we'd encourage projects to use the other revision control system instead, and that's where we would refocus tooling efforts (like the various roadmap items on CVS tooling: Bonsai, LXR, Doctor, commit notifications). -myk From axel at pike.org Thu Apr 3 09:26:44 2008 From: axel at pike.org (Axel Hecht) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:26:44 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap In-Reply-To: References: <47F3B818.9050305@mozilla.org> <9301ed6b0804021126v75effab6m15f096eff9df8166@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Myk Melez wrote: > Alex Vincent wrote: >> * Not having Mercurial as part of the current MozillaBuild package >> hurts on Windows. A lot. Guess what my primary platform is... > Hmm, this seems like something the Mozilla folks would be working on. > Is there a bug on this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402224 Axel From eric.jung at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 05:11:23 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 05:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap Message-ID: <209009.31281.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Myk Melez > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:21:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > > Pete Collins wrote: > > For security reasons, I would advise against this. Uploads are safer > > using version control and or browser file upload. > > > Mozilla IT has been deploying a new secure file upload and management > strategy for stage.mozilla.org that we could probably reuse. Can someone elaborate as to why SCP less secure than browser-based file uploads over SSL? ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Fri Apr 4 07:29:18 2008 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:29:18 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? Message-ID: Hi there, I'm OK with JS and XUL, but I'm too stupid for the new AMO site. Where did the sandbox go? I know there should be a setting under "My Account" saying "Show Sandbox" (between "Hide email address" and "Website URL"), but there is none for my account. Beyond the (dis)appearance in a settings page, I think the sandbox should be more visible. How else do we get users to review addon updates? There's so much frenzy about updating for FF 3.0, and now all those updates are buried in a box of sand ;) Michael From neil at parkwaycc.co.uk Fri Apr 4 07:43:50 2008 From: neil at parkwaycc.co.uk (Neil) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:43:50 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael J Gruber wrote: > I'm OK with JS and XUL, but I'm too stupid for the new AMO site. Where > did the sandbox go? I know there should be a setting under "My > Account" saying "Show Sandbox" (between "Hide email address" and > "Website URL"), but there is none for my account. > > Beyond the (dis)appearance in a settings page, I think the sandbox > should be more visible. How else do we get users to review addon > updates? There's so much frenzy about updating for FF 3.0, and now all > those updates are buried in a box of sand ;) They're not. Previously sandboxed extensions now appear even if you're not logged in, but in that case you're prompted to log in before you can download them. From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Fri Apr 4 08:08:05 2008 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:08:05 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neil venit, vidit, dixit 04.04.2008 16:43: > Michael J Gruber wrote: > >> I'm OK with JS and XUL, but I'm too stupid for the new AMO site. Where >> did the sandbox go? I know there should be a setting under "My >> Account" saying "Show Sandbox" (between "Hide email address" and >> "Website URL"), but there is none for my account. >> >> Beyond the (dis)appearance in a settings page, I think the sandbox >> should be more visible. How else do we get users to review addon >> updates? There's so much frenzy about updating for FF 3.0, and now all >> those updates are buried in a box of sand ;) > > They're not. Previously sandboxed extensions now appear even if you're > not logged in, but in that case you're prompted to log in before you can > download them. This does not seem to be the case at least for LocalLink, whose version 0.4 has been sitting there for a few days now and doesn't show up whether I'm logged in or not. I bumped it for b5 (after testing) yesterday, still no change. (FF3b4 required a new version, not just a bumped maxVersion) Michael From gareth-hunt at rocketmail.com Fri Apr 4 11:57:57 2008 From: gareth-hunt at rocketmail.com (Gareth Hunt) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? Message-ID: <866205.9447.qm@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They appear marked as 'experimental' and are listed after all the publicly released addons. Cheers, Gareth ----- Original Message ---- From: Neil To: project_owners at mozdev.org Sent: Friday, 4 April, 2008 7:43:50 AM Subject: Re: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? Michael J Gruber wrote: > I'm OK with JS and XUL, but I'm too stupid for the new AMO site. Where > did the sandbox go? I know there should be a setting under "My > Account" saying "Show Sandbox" (between "Hide email address" and > "Website URL"), but there is none for my account. > > Beyond the (dis)appearance in a settings page, I think the sandbox > should be more visible. How else do we get users to review addon > updates? There's so much frenzy about updating for FF 3.0, and now all > those updates are buried in a box of sand ;) They're not. Previously sandboxed extensions now appear even if you're not logged in, but in that case you're prompted to log in before you can download them. _______________________________________________ Project_owners mailing list Project_owners at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From bobbys at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 14:11:45 2008 From: bobbys at gmail.com (Bobby S) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 17:11:45 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Project_owners Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53f3d2580804041411t6220344bkaed2f7b4b90b6498@mail.gmail.com> unsubscribe On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:00 PM, wrote: > Send Project_owners mailing list submissions to > project_owners at mozdev.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > project_owners-request at mozdev.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > project_owners-owner at mozdev.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Project_owners digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Pete Collins) > 2. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman) > 3. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Myk Melez) > 4. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Myk Melez) > 5. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Myk Melez) > 6. Re: proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap (Axel Hecht) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:00:17 -0700 > From: Pete Collins > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Message-ID: <47F3E5D1.1020906 at mozdevgroup.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > * By "deprecating CVS", I assume we mean new projects should not be > > instituted on CVS unless the project owner explicitly requests it. > > I'd be in favor of that. CVS is just too much pain compared to more > > modern systems. > > It's funny, I've been using cvs for over a decade now and never noticed > any real problems w/ it ... > > But I'm all for a better and easier to use revision control system is > there is one. > > --pete > > -- > Pete Collins - Founder, Mozdev Group Inc. > www.mozdevgroup.com > Mozilla Software Development Solutions > tel: 1-719-302-5811 > fax: 1-719-302-5813 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:06:33 -0300 > From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Message-ID: <47F3E749.10101 at buanzo.com.ar> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Pete Collins wrote: > | It's funny, I've been using cvs for over a decade now and never noticed > | any real problems w/ it ... > > It all comes down to your needs. When I work by myself, I prefer CVS. When working with a team, SVN. > Yeah, I know both should do well in the team area, but... I've had enough problems with CVS :P > > | But I'm all for a better and easier to use revision control system is > | there is one. > > Subversion is quite good, really. For anyone interested, here you have a quite nice "CVS vs. > Subversion" comparison: > > http://www.pushok.com/soft_svn_vscvs.php > > A couple of interesting pages, with different perspectives: > > http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/CVS_vs_SVN > http://weblogs.asp.net/astopford/archive/2004/11/05/253029.aspx > > - -- > Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman > Reliable inter-continental Mail Relay Service - Ask me! > Independent Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG > http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFH8+dIAlpOsGhXcE0RCgrjAJ0SDSQ+Ov90+7+YHyDqQ2R7Me0DDwCdGLMv > hog1XUuPSTaPqsjFUScUmOI= > =Aw2U > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:17:14 -0700 > From: Myk Melez > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Message-ID: <47F5030A.3020304 at mozilla.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jesper Staun Hansen wrote: > > > 3. Automate project creation and management so that project creation > > requests can be addressed in minutes or hours and users can self-manage > > their projects.* > > > > What's the rush? And it's already on the roadmap. > > > It's already on the roadmap, but it's currently listed as a second-tier > priority. My proposal is to make it a top priority. The "rush" is that > I think it's a key issue affecting Mozdev's attractiveness to potential > project owners who want to get up and running quickly. It also impacts > existing project owners who want to get a new project up with a minimum > of fuss and delay. > > -myk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:21:52 -0700 > From: Myk Melez > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Message-ID: <47F50420.1040707 at mozilla.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Pete Collins wrote: > > For security reasons, I would advise against this. Uploads are safer > > using version control and or browser file upload. > > > Mozilla IT has been deploying a new secure file upload and management > strategy for stage.mozilla.org that we could probably reuse. > > I agree that version control is safer, because it's easier to correct > mistakes, but direct file manipulation is simpler and an oft-requested > feature (and for folks who want the safety, it's pretty easy to check > the files into version control as well). > > Browser file upload is a good idea that we should implement as a > super-simple basic file upload solution whether or not we also enable > scp/sftp/ftps upload. > > -myk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:29:14 -0700 > From: Myk Melez > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Message-ID: <47F505DA.5090603 at mozilla.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Alex Vincent wrote: > > * Not having Mercurial as part of the current MozillaBuild package > > hurts on Windows. A lot. Guess what my primary platform is... > Hmm, this seems like something the Mozilla folks would be working on. > Is there a bug on this? > > > * If Mozilla 1.9.x will also have a constantly-maintained Mercurial > > repository, then it might actually be better for me to use Mercurial > > directly, > That's the plan. > > > although I'm not sure mozdev would appreciate me placing the whole > > Mozilla source there... alternatively, I can always maintain a patch > > set, and make checking out of Moz1.9 part of the checkout process. > > (This alternate is how I was approaching my project on the assumption > > of SVN.) > I guess that depends on the size of the repository and the number of > projects that want this. > > > * By "deprecating CVS", I assume we mean new projects should not be > > instituted on CVS unless the project owner explicitly requests it. > > I'd be in favor of that. CVS is just too much pain compared to more > > modern systems. > Right. We'd still provide CVS to projects that have good cause to use > it, but we'd encourage projects to use the other revision control system > instead, and that's where we would refocus tooling efforts (like the > various roadmap items on CVS tooling: Bonsai, LXR, Doctor, commit > notifications). > > -myk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:26:44 +0200 > From: Axel Hecht > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] proposed changes to Mozdev roadmap > To: project_owners at mozdev.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Myk Melez wrote: > > Alex Vincent wrote: > >> * Not having Mercurial as part of the current MozillaBuild package > >> hurts on Windows. A lot. Guess what my primary platform is... > > Hmm, this seems like something the Mozilla folks would be working on. > > Is there a bug on this? > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402224 > > Axel > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > > End of Project_owners Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 > ********************************************* > From fry.kun at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 14:42:45 2008 From: fry.kun at gmail.com (Konstantin Svist) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:42:45 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] Updating extension's target version on new AMO Message-ID: <47F6A0D5.6040300@gmail.com> Hi all, What's the proper procedure to update your extension to the new browser version? Right now, I have 3.0b4 specified (since instructions page said not to use 3.0 yet).. how to update that to 3.0b5? Thanks From wa84it at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:01:49 2008 From: wa84it at gmail.com (wa84it) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Updating extension's target version on new AMO In-Reply-To: <47F6A0D5.6040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F65EFD.20194.25A6234@wa84it.gmail.com> On 4 Apr 2008 at 14:42, Konstantin Svist wrote: > Hi all, > > What's the proper procedure to update your extension to the new browser > version? > Right now, I have 3.0b4 specified (since instructions page said not to > use 3.0 yet).. how to update that to 3.0b5? > Login to AMO -> developer control panel -> click on the version number link(the current version number) -> change the version number and update I didn't think it was easy to find either. -Ron From fry.kun at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 15:19:13 2008 From: fry.kun at gmail.com (Konstantin Svist) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:19:13 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] Updating extension's target version on new AMO In-Reply-To: <47F65EFD.20194.25A6234@wa84it.gmail.com> References: <47F65EFD.20194.25A6234@wa84it.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F6A961.4080000@gmail.com> wa84it wrote: > On 4 Apr 2008 at 14:42, Konstantin Svist wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> What's the proper procedure to update your extension to the new browser >> version? >> Right now, I have 3.0b4 specified (since instructions page said not to >> use 3.0 yet).. how to update that to 3.0b5? >> >> > > Login to AMO > -> developer control panel > -> click on the version number link(the current version number) > -> change the version number and update > > I didn't think it was easy to find either. > > -Ron > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > Thanks! From brian at mozdev.org Sun Apr 6 10:32:41 2008 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:32:41 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Updating extension's target version on new AMO In-Reply-To: <47F6A0D5.6040300@gmail.com> References: <47F6A0D5.6040300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F90939.5070402@mozdev.org> Konstantin Svist wrote: > Right now, I have 3.0b4 specified (since instructions page said not to > use 3.0 yet).. how to update that to 3.0b5? Here is an important message straight from the horses mouth, AMO. This mail was sent out yesterday --------------------------- Dear Add-on Developer: We are officially at end game. Beta 5, the last Firefox 3 beta, has shipped. This means the next release will be a Firefox 3 release candidate. Please check your add-on for compatibility with beta 5, and if everything looks good, bump your maxVer on addons.mozilla.org (AMO) to "3.0pre". There are an estimated 1.2mil users running Firefox 3 betas, so your add-on will get some serious testing. Once the first release candidate has shipped, and your add-on is supported, you will be able claim 3.0.* support on AMO. If you are still having trouble getting updated, please see our detailed information on changes relevant to add-ons developers: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Updating_extensions_for_Firefox_3 http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Firefox_3_for_developers#For_XUL_and_extension_developers http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/12/11/ensuring-compatibility-of-add-ons-and-themes-for-firefox-3/ As always, help is available on the #extdev channel on irc.mozilla.org and in the mozilla.dev.extensions newsgroup. You should be validating against the final beta. Here are links to the builds: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html Expect a release candidate in late April or early May. Looking forward to a successful launch of Firefox 3! --------------------------- From aeng.aecreations at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 13:38:50 2008 From: aeng.aecreations at gmail.com (Alex Eng) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:38:50 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS errors on commit, update, etc. Message-ID: I was attempting to check in changes to some source files for my project (aecreations) using cvs commit, and I got the following error message shown in the following shell output dump: $ cvs commit -m "Improved Restore button image" cvs commit: Examining . can't create temporary directory /mozdev/cvstmp/cvs-serv34290 No space left on device A similar error message appeared when I tried other commands such as "cvs update", "cvs status" or "cvs log". Same errors when I tried "cvs update" in another of my Mozdev project folders. I had used "cvs commit" about two hours ago with no problems, so this may have been something that had just come up. From adam-kowalczyk at o2.pl Sun Apr 6 15:07:10 2008 From: adam-kowalczyk at o2.pl (Adam Kowalczyk) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:07:10 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS errors on commit, update, etc. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F9498E.8070908@o2.pl> Alex Eng wrote: > I was attempting to check in changes to some source files for my project > (aecreations) using cvs commit, and I got the following error message > shown in the following shell output dump: > > $ cvs commit -m "Improved Restore button image" > cvs commit: Examining . > can't create temporary directory /mozdev/cvstmp/cvs-serv34290 > No space left on device > > A similar error message appeared when I tried other commands such as > "cvs update", "cvs status" or "cvs log". > > Same errors when I tried "cvs update" in another of my Mozdev project > folders. > > I had used "cvs commit" about two hours ago with no problems, so this > may have been something that had just come up. > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > I can confirm, I've just hit this, too. - Adam From michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm Mon Apr 7 02:10:37 2008 From: michaeljgruber+mozdevnews at fastmail.fm (Michael J Gruber) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:10:37 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] sandbox setting gone MIA on AMO? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gareth Hunt venit, vidit, dixit 04.04.2008 20:57: > They appear marked as 'experimental' and are listed after all the > publicly released addons. I'm sorry but this is simply not true for my extension (LocalLink). I keep getting incorrect responses about how things are. Maybe they should be that way (I don't know), but as a matter of fact (listing concisely what I had decribed before): LocalLink *is* listed on amo The latest version which is listed is 0.3, older versions are available as well. If I log in with an AMO user account nothing changes. If I log in to my developer page I see version 0.4 as "pending review". This is the FF3.0b5 compatible version which should be available to users who want to test it. Michael P.S.: What does "after all..." means anyways when I list one extension and want see all versions? P.P.S.: version 0.4 is compatible with FF 2.0 - 3.0b5, so it should appear when I surf AMO with FF 2.0 or FF3.0b. From silfreed at silfreed.net Mon Apr 7 06:19:00 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:19:00 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] CVS errors on commit, update, etc. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804070919.05419.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Sunday 06 April 2008 16:38:50 Alex Eng wrote: > ? ?can't create temporary directory /mozdev/cvstmp/cvs-serv34290 > ? ?No space left on device This was the cause of the problems. We had a device fill up over the weekend. We're still debugging what is going on to prevent it from happening in the future. At any rate, you should be okay to commit and update now. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080407/0088d70d/attachment.bin From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 7 11:01:03 2008 From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:01:03 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] Broken "enter a new bug" link Message-ID: <47FA615F.70405@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> The "Enter a new bug" link from my project's bug page, http://wmlbrowser.mozdev.org/bugs.html which links to http://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=wmlbrowser and has previously worked, now gives a 403 error, "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /bugs/s on this server." Matthew From jesper at heroes-addon.dk Mon Apr 7 11:07:39 2008 From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:07:39 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Broken "enter a new bug" link In-Reply-To: <47FA615F.70405@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> References: <47FA615F.70405@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <47FA62EB.7050101@heroes-addon.dk> Seems like its all moved to https Change it to https and it should work. Matthew Wilson wrote: > The "Enter a new bug" link from my project's bug page, > > http://wmlbrowser.mozdev.org/bugs.html > > which links to > http://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=wmlbrowser and has > previously worked, now gives a 403 error, > > "Forbidden > You don't have permission to access /bugs/s on this server." > > Matthew > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > From silfreed at silfreed.net Mon Apr 7 11:17:04 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:17:04 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Broken "enter a new bug" link In-Reply-To: <47FA615F.70405@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> References: <47FA615F.70405@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <200804071417.04324.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Monday 07 April 2008 14:01:03 Matthew Wilson wrote: > The "Enter a new bug" link from my project's bug page, > > http://wmlbrowser.mozdev.org/bugs.html > > which links to > http://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=wmlbrowser and has > previously worked, now gives a 403 error, > > "Forbidden > You don't have permission to access /bugs/s on this server." This appears to be a problem with our new apache setup. I'll let the sysadmins know. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080407/87574d89/attachment.bin From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 9 11:15:33 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:15:33 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Old poll software disabled Message-ID: <200804091415.37783.silfreed@silfreed.net> The old polling software that was previously available at Mozdev.org is no longer available. This was commonly utilized by having the following code on your page: This has been in effect for awhile, but was never properly announced. We've recently noticed some PHP errors being generated by the removal of the software and wanted to let everyone know that the software has been removed. If you have any questions about your data from previous polls feel free to contact me off-list. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080409/f8c71dc5/attachment.bin From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 9 12:09:22 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:09:22 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Missing mailing list/newsgroup syncronization for many projects Message-ID: <200804091509.22612.silfreed@silfreed.net> When Mozdev.org was initially setup we had intended to setup our mailing lists to be gated to a newsgroup server (and vice-versa) to allow broader discussions amongst users. Unfortunately at some point in time the automatic setup of this process broke and there are a large number of projects who only have a mailing list, but no newsgroup. It's possible for us to fix this mistake, but we wanted to make sure people wanted it fixed. Let us know how you feel; would you want us to setup the newsgroup if you were missing it, or would you like to leave it as-is. Details can be found in bug#18328 [1]. -Doug [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18328 -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080409/f7c48a8e/attachment.bin From eric.jung at yahoo.com Thu Apr 10 10:32:06 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Old poll software disabled Message-ID: <474290.37247.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Douglas E. Warner > The old polling software that was previously available at Mozdev.org is no > longer available. This was commonly utilized by having the following code on > your page: > > include POLL; > ?> FYI, project owners can still do polls on mozdev with Drupal. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From erbo at ruc.dk Thu Apr 10 04:14:14 2008 From: erbo at ruc.dk (Sebastian Hoffmann) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:14:14 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozilla Firefox Survey Message-ID: <47FDF686.5030908@ruc.dk> Dear Firefox Developer We are two students from Roskilde University Denmark, writing a masters thesis on the impressing and productive culture of Firefox communities. You are as a developer, an important part of Firefox successful open source team, and therefore your response is of great value to this thesis. The survey will take 3 minutes to complete, and the final result will be accessible on the first of June ? Thanks http://www.survey-xact.dk/LinkCollector?key=FJQM2CSK9NC1 Kind regards Sebastian Erbo Hoffmann Mads Plesner Leck Larsen From silfreed at silfreed.net Fri Apr 11 12:55:31 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:55:31 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Testers needed for secure updates Message-ID: <200804111555.31650.silfreed@silfreed.net> Our update.rdf generation is in its testing phase; if you are intersted in helping us out by testing our update.rdf files for extensions, please let me know. Details can be found in bug#18526 [1]; feel free to comment there or reply to me directly. -Doug [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=18526 -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080411/bc19b974/attachment.bin From brian at mozdev.org Fri Apr 11 23:07:16 2008 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:07:16 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozilla Firefox Survey In-Reply-To: <47FDF686.5030908@ruc.dk> References: <47FDF686.5030908@ruc.dk> Message-ID: <48005194.7050708@mozdev.org> You may want to hold off on filling this out for the moment. See: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/browse_thread/thread/399adc5bbfe2a325/b27ade8f887febda - Brian On 10/04/2008 13:14 (CET), Sebastian Hoffmann wrote: > Dear Firefox Developer > > We are two students from Roskilde University Denmark, writing a masters > thesis on the impressing and productive culture of Firefox communities. > You are as a developer, an important part of Firefox successful open > source team, and therefore your response is of great value to this > thesis. The survey will take 3 minutes to complete, and the final result > will be accessible on the first of June ? Thanks > > http://www.survey-xact.dk/LinkCollector?key=FJQM2CSK9NC1 > > Kind regards > > Sebastian Erbo Hoffmann > > Mads Plesner Leck Larsen > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners From antonglv at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 04:16:49 2008 From: antonglv at gmail.com (Anton Glazatov) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:16:49 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] The way to limit posts amount on drupal forum page ? Message-ID: <48009A21.1070807@gmail.com> I searched for this on "Administration" page, but I found preference only for main page. From mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com Sat Apr 12 05:52:55 2008 From: mv_van_rantwijk at yahoo.com (Michael Vincent van Rantwijk, MultiZilla) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:52:55 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Mozilla Firefox Survey In-Reply-To: References: <47FDF686.5030908@ruc.dk> Message-ID: Brian King wrote: > You may want to hold off on filling this out for the moment. See: > > http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.l10n/browse_thread/thread/399adc5bbfe2a325/b27ade8f887febda There is nothing wrong doing in offering e-mail notifications on a opt-in basis. You can simply e-mail Sebastian Erbo Hoffmann (erbo at ruc.dk) and/or Mads Plesner Leck Larsen (mpll at ruc.dk) in case anyone wants. BTW: Nobody asked me for a user name! -- Michael Vincent van Rantwijk - MultiZilla Project Team Lead - XUL Boot Camp Staff member (ActiveState Training Partner) - iPhone Application Developer From silfreed at silfreed.net Sat Apr 12 08:26:27 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:26:27 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] The way to limit posts amount on drupal forum page ? In-Reply-To: <48009A21.1070807@gmail.com> References: <48009A21.1070807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804121126.33428.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Saturday 12 April 2008 07:16:49 Anton Glazatov wrote: > I searched for this on "Administration" page, but I found preference > only for main page. I'm assuming you only want to allow authenticated users, perhaps? If you go to Administer -> Forums -> There will be a block on that page that allows you to modify who is allowed to post in each forum. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080412/9b0604c7/attachment.bin From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com Sat Apr 12 09:49:43 2008 From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:49:43 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem Message-ID: Hi there My project overview page is still showing as if I've never released any files. However, I have released 7, of which 4 have an install.rdf file. What's up? From silfreed at silfreed.net Sat Apr 12 10:11:39 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804121311.39206.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Saturday 12 April 2008 12:49:43 Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote: > My project overview page is still showing as if I've never released any > files. However, I have released 7, of which 4 have an install.rdf file. Did you check the checkbox, or just verify them? To release a file you need to do both. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080412/bec02529/attachment.bin From jingweno at cs.ubc.ca Sat Apr 12 11:47:52 2008 From: jingweno at cs.ubc.ca (Jingwen 'Owen' Ou) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:47:52 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] delete files in the cvs folder In-Reply-To: <200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk> <200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <480103D8.7010003@cs.ubc.ca> Hi all, Does anyone know how to delete files/folders in the project folder? I used the delete/remove command in a cvs client, but the files/folders are still in the project folder on the server. Thank you, Owen From antonglv at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 13:39:28 2008 From: antonglv at gmail.com (Anton Glazatov) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:39:28 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] The way to limit posts amount on drupal forum page ? In-Reply-To: <200804121126.33428.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <48009A21.1070807@gmail.com> <200804121126.33428.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <48011E00.9050402@gmail.com> I want to set up number of messages, showed on the forum's thread page. And if number of messages exceed 10 (25, 50), the forum create new page in the same thread. > On Saturday 12 April 2008 07:16:49 Anton Glazatov wrote: > >> I searched for this on "Administration" page, but I found preference >> only for main page. >> > > I'm assuming you only want to allow authenticated users, perhaps? > > If you go to Administer -> Forums -> > There will be a block on that page that allows you to modify who is allowed to > post in each forum. > > -Doug > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk Sat Apr 12 14:17:42 2008 From: matthew at mjwilson.demon.co.uk (Matthew Wilson) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:17:42 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] delete files in the cvs folder In-Reply-To: <480103D8.7010003@cs.ubc.ca> References: <47E7B223.6090809@heroes-addon.dk> <200803241001.35257.silfreed@silfreed.net> <480103D8.7010003@cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: <480126F6.8040606@mjwilson.demon.co.uk> Jingwen 'Owen' Ou wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know how to delete files/folders in the project folder? I > used the delete/remove command in a cvs client, but the files/folders > are still in the project folder on the server. You have to do a "cvs commit" on the containing folder, I think. Matthew From silfreed at silfreed.net Sun Apr 13 09:37:06 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:37:06 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] The way to limit posts amount on drupal forum page ? In-Reply-To: <48011E00.9050402@gmail.com> References: <48009A21.1070807@gmail.com> <200804121126.33428.silfreed@silfreed.net> <48011E00.9050402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804131237.14708.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Saturday 12 April 2008 16:39:28 Anton Glazatov wrote: > I want to set up number of messages, showed on the forum's thread page. > And if number of messages exceed 10 (25, 50), the forum create new page > in the same thread. Ah, okay, I understand what you mean now. I don't believe there is a separate option for that currently. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080413/f01b218f/attachment.bin From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com Sun Apr 13 09:39:23 2008 From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:39:23 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Did you check the checkbox, or just verify them? To release a file you need > to do both. I didn't know you needed to do more than upload it to the downloads/ directory. I've logged in to the File Management panel and checked the checkboxes. They now show up. :) From silfreed at silfreed.net Sun Apr 13 18:02:53 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:02:53 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804132102.54038.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Sunday 13 April 2008 12:39:23 Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote: > I didn't know you needed to do more than upload it to the downloads/ > directory. I've logged in to the File Management panel and checked the > checkboxes. They now show up. :) Okay; I'm glad you were able to figure it out from my bad description. I didn't understand that you hadn't used the file management tool (better names are welcome ;) previously. We didn't want people's files to show up there unexpectedly (test/preview/beta releases, etc), so we wanted people to make a conscious decision to have them show up. Checking the box will also have further implications such as making them show up in our generated update.rdf feed (in the near future), for example, so it would allow people to update automatically. -Doug P.S. Mozdev doesn't want to modify your files, so POs will have to manually change their install manifest if they want to utilize our generated feed. -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080413/5b8a32f4/attachment.bin From wa84it at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 18:30:47 2008 From: wa84it at gmail.com (wa84it) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:30:47 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem In-Reply-To: <200804132102.54038.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: Message-ID: <48026D77.15291.2DF022B@wa84it.gmail.com> On 13 Apr 2008 at 21:02, Douglas E. Warner wrote: > > Okay; I'm glad you were able to figure it out from my bad description. I > didn't understand that you hadn't used the file management tool (better names > are welcome ;) previously. > > We didn't want people's files to show up there unexpectedly (test/preview/beta > releases, etc), so we wanted people to make a conscious decision to have them > show up. Checking the box will also have further implications such as making > them show up in our generated update.rdf feed (in the near future), for > example, so it would allow people to update automatically. > A little off-topic, but since you brought it up... Would it be possible to have files that are verified but not released (test/preview/beta releases, etc) show up in other files on the preview page? Then users could download them securely without worrying about hashes. Or do I not understand? -Ron -- misterp wa84it at gmail.com From silfreed at silfreed.net Sun Apr 13 19:23:59 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:23:59 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Project overview page problem In-Reply-To: <48026D77.15291.2DF022B@wa84it.gmail.com> References: <48026D77.15291.2DF022B@wa84it.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804132223.59554.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Sunday 13 April 2008 21:30:47 wa84it wrote: > A little off-topic, but since you brought it up... > > Would it be possible to have files that are verified but not released > (test/preview/beta releases, etc) show up in other files on the > preview page? ?Then users could download them securely without > worrying about hashes. ?Or do I not understand? I don't see a problem with that. Could you file a bug under the Mozdev project? [1] -Doug [1] https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=mozdev -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, -Thomas __________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail. Der Lieblings-Mailbox der Welt. http://de.overview.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080414/901dccf1/attachment.html From firefox at maltekraus.de Mon Apr 14 14:00:06 2008 From: firefox at maltekraus.de (Malte Kraus) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:00:06 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4803C5D6.7020300@maltekraus.de> The notes on my project (adblockfilters) is spammed as well. I got the old edit script from http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/templates/www/Attic/edit.html?rev=1.1;content-type=text%2Fplain;hideattic=0 working (in the protected folder of course) by replacing all occurrences of $HTTP_GET_VARS through $_GET, $HTTP_POST_VARS through $_POST and $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS through $_COOKIE (and changing the file name in line 68) and removed the spam. Anyway, it's time to get Drupal I guess... Malte Thomas Reitmayr schrieb: > > Hi, > just 2 hours ago the "Notes" on my title page (checkyesss.mozdev.org) > started being spammed whereas before I never saw a single spam entry there. > Although the "Notes" feature is already a few years old, is there an > updated version I could use? Right now I include the "NOTES" file. Also > I noticed that "$hide_text_control = 1" does not remove the text input > boxes and new notes can still be added. It might not make much sense in > the long run, but is there a way to prevent new entries for now? > Thanks, > -Thomas > > Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail > . > > Der Lieblings-Mailbox der Welt. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners From trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au Mon Apr 14 19:55:09 2008 From: trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au (Trevor Hobson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:55:09 +1000 Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Message-ID: <4804190D.6080503@yahoo.com.au> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/c7bde191/attachment.html From brian at mozdev.org Tue Apr 15 01:20:46 2008 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:20:46 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <4803C5D6.7020300@maltekraus.de> References: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <4803C5D6.7020300@maltekraus.de> Message-ID: <4804655E.2050006@mozdev.org> Malte Kraus wrote: > Anyway, it's time to get Drupal I guess... Yes, the old notes system is no longer supported and we recommend switching to Drupal forums to engage users in this sort of feedback. http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDrupalSetup - Brian From John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com Tue Apr 15 02:01:05 2008 From: John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com (John.Sgouridis at fitchratings.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:01:05 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] John Sgouridis/it/CHI/F-I is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 04/15/2008 and will not return until 04/16/2008. I will be out of the office Please contact Jefferey Saiger or Michael Washington in case of emergency ______________________________________________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: The information in this e-mail and any attachment(s) is confidential and for the use of the addressee(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete this e-mail. Unauthorized use, reliance, disclosure or copying of the contents of this e-mail, or any similar action, is prohibited. This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Apr 15 06:30:49 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Message-ID: <321081.38307.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You don't need an XPCOM component to execute code at startup and shutdown. But to answer your question, you can use mozIJSSubScriptLoader to load the JS which has the functions you're already written. ----- Original Message ---- From: Trevor Hobson To: Mozdev Project Owners List Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:55:09 PM Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Greetings all I would like my extension to have the ability do some tasks when thefirst browser window is opened and when the last is closed. As part ofthe current functionality of the extension these tasks are donemanually when when the user requests them, this functionality will notbe changed. I have created a simple XPCOM component that runs code on first loadand last close. What I want to know is what is the best way to achievethe desired functionality without duplicating the current code? Thanks Trevor ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/bfe66955/attachment.html From trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au Tue Apr 15 08:07:53 2008 From: trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au (Trevor Hobson) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:07:53 +1000 Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help In-Reply-To: <321081.38307.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <321081.38307.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4804C4C9.1030007@yahoo.com.au> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080416/50c09bad/attachment.html From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Apr 15 09:09:52 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Message-ID: <33584.30250.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, having said that I looked at an extension of mine where I have custom startup and shutdown code, and I do have it in an XPCOM object. You need to observe one or more of the topics listed here: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Observer_Notifications The shutdown topics I am certain you can observe from a browser.xul overlay, but some or all of the application startup topics might be broadcast before the initial browser.xul is displayed. ----- Original Message ---- From: Trevor Hobson To: Mozdev Project Owners List Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:07:53 AM Subject: Re: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Eric I would prefer not to have to do the XPCOM, can you point me to someexamples of how to do it another way. Thanks Eric H. Jung wrote: Youdon't need an XPCOM component to execute code at startup and shutdown.But to answer your question, you can use mozIJSSubScriptLoader to loadthe JS which has the functions you're already written. -----Original Message ---- From: Trevor Hobson To: Mozdev Project Owners List Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:55:09 PM Subject: [Project_owners] XPCOM help Greetings all I would like my extension to have the ability do some tasks when thefirst browser window is opened and when the last is closed. As part ofthe current functionality of the extension these tasks are donemanually when when the user requests them, this functionality will notbe changed. I have created a simple XPCOM component that runs code on first loadand last close. What I want to know is what is the best way to achievethe desired functionality without duplicating the current code? Thanks Trevor between 0000-00-00 and 9999-99-99 _______________________________________________ Project_owners mailing list Project_owners at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/d02deaaa/attachment-0001.html From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com Tue Apr 15 10:22:03 2008 From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:22:03 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mine got spammed with one message. And I can't seem to remove it! When I edit the file through protected/edit.html, the changes don't stick. From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 15 10:36:09 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:36:09 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804151336.09805.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 13:22:03 Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote: > Mine got spammed with one message. And I can't seem to remove it! When I > edit the file through protected/edit.html, the changes don't stick. You probably need to edit the edit.html page as Malte suggested: http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-April/011319.html -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/4f64f639/attachment.bin From johnrw at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 11:44:19 2008 From: johnrw at gmail.com (John Woods) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:44:19 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <200804151336.09805.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <200804151336.09805.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Douglas E. Warner wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 13:22:03 Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote: > > Mine got spammed with one message. And I can't seem to remove it! When I > > edit the file through protected/edit.html, the changes don't stick. > > You probably need to edit the edit.html page as Malte suggested: > http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-April/011319.html > > -Doug Works for me... I loaded my local copy of edit.html in an editor. did a global replace of $HTTP_GET_VARS with $_GET, $HTTP_POST_VARS with $_POST $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS with $_COOKIE and commited. Spam gone! Thanks. From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 15 12:33:24 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:33:24 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200804151533.24179.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Monday 14 April 2008 15:50:01 Thomas Reitmayr wrote: > just 2 hours ago the "Notes" on my title page (checkyesss.mozdev.org) > started being spammed whereas before I never saw a single spam entry there. > Although the "Notes" feature is already a few years old, is there an > updated version I could use? Right now I include the "NOTES" file. Also I > noticed that "$hide_text_control = 1" does not remove the text input boxes > and new notes can still be added. It might not make much sense in the long > run, but is there a way to prevent new entries for now? We've disabled NOTES submissions since this has become such a problem after they were repaired. Right now we recommend that you request/upgrade to a Drupal site if you need gather feedback publically so you can setup your own forum. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/43930081/attachment.html From jesper at heroes-addon.dk Tue Apr 15 12:54:43 2008 From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:54:43 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] get variable from current page In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> Firebug extension does it. joe ertaba wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to get used variable in current document from extension > > e.g > html code of current document > ..... > > ...... > > > > > I want to use bb variable in my Firefox extension > ---- > maybe by searching in document.body.innerHTML ?! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From david at mozdev.org Tue Apr 15 16:13:53 2008 From: david at mozdev.org (David Boswell) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] New roadmap posted Message-ID: <179488.80225.qm@web33008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wanted to let all of the project owners know that we just posted a new version of the mozdev roadmap at: http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html The biggest change is that our new top priority is adding Mercurial support to the site. We had initially considered adding Subversion support first, but think it makes sense to stay in sync with Mozilla's development tools (although we would still like to add Subversion support, but it's a lower priority). Another big change is the inclusion of a number of tasks that should help with the usability of the site, including making edits to a project's web pages easier, making the creation of new projects a quicker process and redesigning the look of the site. If anyone has any comments or suggestions about these changes, please feel free to let us know. David From prppedro at hotmail.com Tue Apr 15 16:26:37 2008 From: prppedro at hotmail.com (Pedro Pinheiro) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:26:37 -0300 Subject: [Project_owners] Hi In-Reply-To: <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> Message-ID: Hi, Everyone I have a phpBB in my project working with a remote MySQL Server. But, after installation is necessary remove two folders: contrib and install. But i'm don't getting success. What i'm need to remove this folders via CVS? Thanks, Pedro Signature -->> Pedro Pinheiro Be free! Use Linux! > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:54:43 +0200 > From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk > To: project_owners at mozdev.org > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] get variable from current page > > Firebug extension does it. > > joe ertaba wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there any way to get used variable in current document from extension > > > > e.g > > html code of current document > > ..... > > > > ...... > > > > > > > > > > I want to use bb variable in my Firefox extension > > ---- > > maybe by searching in document.body.innerHTML ?! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Project_owners mailing list > > Project_owners at mozdev.org > > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners _________________________________________________________________ Cansado de espa?o para s? 50 fotos? Conhe?a o Spaces, o site de relacionamentos com at? 6,000 fotos! http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/1a62f034/attachment.html From prppedro at hotmail.com Tue Apr 15 16:31:06 2008 From: prppedro at hotmail.com (Pedro Pinheiro) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:31:06 -0300 Subject: [Project_owners] PHPBB Problem In-Reply-To: <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> Message-ID: Hi, Everyone I have a phpBB and after setup a Databases, Config File, etc... I have a problem: I need delete CONTRIB and INSTALL, but, i'm don't getting sucess on this operation. My system is Linux (Debian Etch). What i need to do? Thanks, Pedro Be free! Use Linux! Pedro Pinheiro _________________________________________________________________ Cansado de espa?o para s? 50 fotos? Conhe?a o Spaces, o site de relacionamentos com at? 6,000 fotos! http://www.amigosdomessenger.com.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/6b5eef37/attachment.html From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 15 17:34:28 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:34:28 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Hi In-Reply-To: References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> Message-ID: <200804152034.28218.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 19:26:37 Pedro Pinheiro wrote: > I have a phpBB in my project working with a remote MySQL Server. But, after > installation is necessary remove two folders: contrib and install. But i'm > don't getting success. What i'm need to remove this folders via CVS? Unfortunately you can't delete folders via CVS. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/3c6ef009/attachment.bin From twhitema at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 18:01:52 2008 From: twhitema at gmail.com (Todd Whiteman) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:01:52 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] Hi In-Reply-To: <200804152034.28218.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> <48050803.4090501@heroes-addon.dk> <200804152034.28218.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Douglas E. Warner wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 19:26:37 Pedro Pinheiro wrote: > > I have a phpBB in my project working with a remote MySQL Server. But, > after > > installation is necessary remove two folders: contrib and install. But > i'm > > don't getting success. What i'm need to remove this folders via CVS? > > Unfortunately you can't delete folders via CVS. > > This is correct, you cannot delete CVS folders via the command line. The way to work around this is by using the -P option in your cvs update call (which means prune empty directories): $ cvs update -P Cheers, Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/67576654/attachment.html From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 15 18:27:36 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:27:36 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Hi In-Reply-To: References: <23d9f6b20804151252x4fb269edscdc2a6c7b9f7d046@mail.gmail.com> <200804152034.28218.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <200804152127.36271.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 21:01:52 Todd Whiteman wrote: > This is correct, you cannot delete CVS folders via the command line. The > way to work around this is by using the -P option in your cvs update call > (which means prune empty directories): $ cvs update -P Unfortunately he probably needs this done on the server and he doesn't have control over how that updates. I'm not sure if there would be any repercussions if we changed how the web paths updated. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080415/6231a8fb/attachment-0001.bin From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Apr 15 18:39:36 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Hi Message-ID: <634520.73455.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Chris Neale has manually deleted directories in CVS for me if I ask nicely. ----- Original Message ---- > From: Douglas E. Warner > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:27:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Hi > > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 21:01:52 Todd Whiteman wrote: > > This is correct, you cannot delete CVS folders via the command line. The > > way to work around this is by using the -P option in your cvs update call > > (which means prune empty directories): $ cvs update -P > > Unfortunately he probably needs this done on the server and he doesn't have > control over how that updates. I'm not sure if there would be any > repercussions if we changed how the web paths updated. > > -Doug > > -- > Douglas E. Warner Site Developer > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From myfirstnamehere at gawab.com Wed Apr 16 03:19:08 2008 From: myfirstnamehere at gawab.com (Benoit Renard, msnmsgr) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:19:08 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > You probably need to edit the edit.html page as Malte suggested: > http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-April/011319.html Yup, that worked. Thanks. :) Now, how do I remove the spam from the newsgroups? There doesn't seem to be an option to delete messages in the administrative interface that I can see. From brian at mozdev.org Wed Apr 16 04:08:34 2008 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:08:34 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4805DE32.9030407@mozdev.org> Benoit Renard, msnmsgr wrote: > Now, how do I remove the spam from the newsgroups? There doesn't seem to > be an option to delete messages in the administrative interface that I > can see. Messages that have already got through can not be deleted. If you catch them in time in your review queue, just choose to 'Discard' them. - Brian From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 04:09:41 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:09:41 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <767de81b0804160409r6321b1ebod3b0237aa021f4f2@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Benoit Renard, msnmsgr < myfirstnamehere at gawab.com> wrote: > > You probably need to edit the edit.html page as Malte suggested: > > http://mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/2008-April/011319.html > > Yup, that worked. Thanks. :) > > Now, how do I remove the spam from the newsgroups? There doesn't seem to > be an option to delete messages in the administrative interface that I > can see. Newsgroups messages can be canceled by sending a control message to the newsserver. I'm not sure though how mailman reacts to that and the spam messages probably won't be removed from the list archives either... It's a long time ago since I've last used it, but RFC1036should tell you how to do it exactly. It should boil down to sending a message including the following headerlines to the news server: Subject: cmsg Control: cancel Newsgroups: poublic.mozdev.msnmsgr Not sure if you can cancel more messages at once or have to cancel every message by corresponding cancel message and not sure if it's supported by the news server, so you'll have to experiment with it. Onno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au Wed Apr 16 21:06:58 2008 From: trevorhemail-mozdev at yahoo.com.au (Trevor Hobson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:06:58 +1000 Subject: [Project_owners] File management In-Reply-To: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <4806CCE2.9080602@yahoo.com.au> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080417/38cff2c8/attachment.html From aeng.aecreations at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 22:07:07 2008 From: aeng.aecreations at gmail.com (Alex Eng) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] Testers needed for new extension: Panic Button Message-ID: <4806DAFB.3080305@gmail.com> Hello, This is a call for testers to try out and provide feedback on a newly-released beta of Panic Button, a new extension for Firefox. Panic Button introduces a toolbar button for the browser toolbar which will quickly hide all Firefox windows when it is clicked -- bring them back by clicking a button on the Restore Session toolbar, and your browser session will be restored. The Panic Button action can also be invoked by pressing F9. The Panic Button toolbar button is customizable -- choose the Panic Button action (hide all windows [default], minimize all windows, or quit Firefox), the toolbar button caption, and the toolbar button image (six images available; more to be added in a later release). URLs to more info and download links: * From the AE Creations website: http://aecreations.mozdev.org/panicbutton/index.html * From Mozilla Add-ons (this extension is in the sandbox; you need to be logged in to download and install it): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6990 * From the AE Creations blog: http://aecreations.blogspot.com/search/label/panicbutton Please feel free to post your feedback on Panic Button as a reply to this thread or by sending an email to the AE Creations mailing list (see http://aecreations.mozdev.org/contact.html). Bug reports can be submitted at http://aecreations.mozdev.org/bugs.html. Thanks! Alex --- AE Creations website http://aecreations.mozdev.org/ the AE Creations blog http://aecreations.blogspot.com/ From silfreed at silfreed.net Thu Apr 17 05:15:05 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:15:05 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] File management In-Reply-To: <4806CCE2.9080602@yahoo.com.au> References: <200803261411.36848.silfreed@silfreed.net> <4806CCE2.9080602@yahoo.com.au> Message-ID: <200804170815.10005.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Thursday 17 April 2008 00:06:58 Trevor Hobson wrote: > With my Objection extension there are three xpi files that are listed under > the no extension section of file management. > > The objection-0_3_2-fx.xpi file is exactly the same as the > objection-0_3_0-fx.xpi file that is listed in the extension section except > that the Firefox max version has been bumped. Can anyone tell me why this > happening? > Typically .xpi files end up in the "Non-extension files" section because the install.rdf file did not parse correctly. For objection-0_3_2-fx.xpi I get an invalid character error at line 10, character 23; did you add the French translation for this release? $ xmlwf install.rdf install.rdf:10:23: not well-formed (invalid token) > I am also not sure why the 0_4_0a1 and 0_4_0a4 files are listed below > while the 0_4_0a2 and 0_4_0a3 files are listed above? I'm not sure either; were the 0_4_0a2 and 0_4_0a3 files originally committed without the French translation and then later updated with the french translation? If so, the install manifest would have been parsed correctly and then failed when updated (they seem to have the same error as the other files). I'll fix the bug where extension detection doesn't get reset when a broken install.rdf is later updated, but the install.rdf probably needs fixed for these files. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Warner > > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:27:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Hi > > > > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 21:01:52 Todd Whiteman wrote: > > > This is correct, you cannot delete CVS folders via the command line. The > > > way to work around this is by using the -P option in your cvs update call > > > (which means prune empty directories): $ cvs update -P > > > > Unfortunately he probably needs this done on the server and he doesn't have > > control over how that updates. I'm not sure if there would be any > > repercussions if we changed how the web paths updated. > > > > -Doug > > > > -- > > Douglas E. Warner Site Developer > > Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners _________________________________________________________________ Receba GR?TIS as mensagens do Messenger no seu celular quando voc? estiver offline. Conhe?a o MSN Mobile! http://mobile.live.com/signup/signup2.aspx?lc=pt-br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now I read in their wikithat they advice to have a forum for people to comment and discuss on my extension. And they say, if you can't use your own forum, you could create a topic on the Mozillazine Extension forum . I already have drupal setup, so people could comment there (not that they have :-)), but the chance of someone stumbling upon my forum on mozdev is probably much smaller than the chance of someone seeing my thread in the mozillazine extension forum. So I'm not sure what to do now. From one point of view, I'd like to have all my stuff together, so on mozdev, and AMO is only necessary to get more people using my extension and make it also easier to get it updated. On the other hand mozillaZine is probably more widespread and has more users, so it's a more easily accesible forum than mozdev. Then again, I'm still at a loss what to do with my site on mozdev. It hasn't got that much content, so I could move most of it to drupal, or I could keep it in the classic project way. I'd like to hear the thoughts of other project owners about the various websites... Onno Ekker -- http://forward.mozdev.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080418/c87f4190/attachment.html From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 14:31:18 2008 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] mozdev Forums vs mozillaZine In-Reply-To: <767de81b0804181248l742674aw203ffcf0edca0291@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <270641.80175.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > I already have drupal setup, so people could comment there (not that > they have :-)), but the chance of someone stumbling upon my forum on > mozdev is probably much smaller than the chance of someone seeing my > thread in the mozillazine extension forum. I may be wrong, but in all the discussion on planet.mozilla.org about the updates to AMO, I thought they mentioned there was (or will be) a way for extension authors to point to a custom forum (wherever it's located) on their AMO extension's page. You can keep the forum wherever was most convenient to you and then people would be able to find it coming from AMO. David From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 04:42:09 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:42:09 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] mozdev Forums vs mozillaZine In-Reply-To: <270641.80175.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <767de81b0804181248l742674aw203ffcf0edca0291@mail.gmail.com> <270641.80175.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <767de81b0804190442j1dccbb78kfee364dcd49d35ad@mail.gmail.com> > I already have drupal setup, so people could comment there (not that > > they have :-)), but the chance of someone stumbling upon my forum on > > mozdev is probably much smaller than the chance of someone seeing my > > thread in the mozillazine extension forum. > > I may be wrong, but in all the discussion on planet.mozilla.org about > the updates to AMO, I thought they mentioned there was (or will be) a > way for extension authors to point to a custom forum (wherever it's > located) on their AMO extension's page. You can keep the forum > wherever was most convenient to you and then people would be able to > find it coming from AMO. > > David You are right, they only say it's best to point to a forum. I'm just not sure what would be the best forum to use. And I have the same uncertainty about other pages on my project website. On the main index.html every project has a What's new, for example, but it would probably be more logical to Blog what's new. Also by putting my extension on AMO, it now has two download locations. It may be best to keep it that way, so I can more easily release new versions first on mozdev, than to the AMO sandbox and finally to AMO public, but I'm not sure about that either... So I was trying to find out how other Project Owners think is the best way to run their website, forum, download location, etc and why. Not only the forum, but that was the trigger for me, so that's why it ended up int the subject... I hope that such a discussion can help me to make up my mind on how to setup my website and help mozdev to further improve the way they present the new features to the public... Onno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080419/d8c52021/attachment.html From silfreed at silfreed.net Mon Apr 21 12:29:40 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:29:40 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <200804151533.24179.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <200804151533.24179.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <200804211529.40471.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Tuesday 15 April 2008 15:33:24 Douglas E. Warner wrote: > We've disabled NOTES submissions since this has become such a problem after > they were repaired. > > Right now we recommend that you request/upgrade to a Drupal site if you > need gather feedback publically so you can setup your own forum. An update to the situation: We found on Friday that the emails were still going to the lists or project owners (or whoever was configured to receive updates). We disabled the emailing of these messages Friday afternoon (EDT); if you receive any more, let us know. Today we went through the comments and deleted ones created on or after April 14th. This should remove the spam comments from this recent attack from your site. If you come across anything else that looks like it might've been from this attack, let us know. If anyone would like to help restore functionality to the old notes system let me know; otherwise we will continue to recommend using Drupal for forums and things requiring comments as the tools available there for stopping comment spam are much more robust and can be updated more easily. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080421/518ba260/attachment.bin From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 12:50:20 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:50:20 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <200804211529.40471.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <652550.49707.qm@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <200804151533.24179.silfreed@silfreed.net> <200804211529.40471.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <480CEFFC.9030503@gmail.com> Douglas E. Warner wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008 15:33:24 Douglas E. Warner wrote: > >> We've disabled NOTES submissions since this has become such a problem after >> they were repaired. >> >> Right now we recommend that you request/upgrade to a Drupal site if you >> need gather feedback publically so you can setup your own forum. >> > > An update to the situation: > > We found on Friday that the emails were still going to the lists or project > owners (or whoever was configured to receive updates). We disabled the > emailing of these messages Friday afternoon (EDT); if you receive any more, > let us know. > > Today we went through the comments and deleted ones created on or after April > 14th. This should remove the spam comments from this recent attack from your > site. > > If you come across anything else that looks like it might've been from this > attack, let us know. > > If anyone would like to help restore functionality to the old notes system let > me know; otherwise we will continue to recommend using Drupal for forums and > things requiring comments as the tools available there for stopping comment > spam are much more robust and can be updated more easily. > > I didn't use notes on my project page, but I already got spam on my main wiki page before I even put content on it myself... Default drupal setup allows for unauthenticated comments. So drupal is no safe haven from spam :-( From eric.jung at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 14:25:19 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] mozdev Forums vs mozillaZine Message-ID: <788571.54689.qm@web30301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Onno, Here are my two cents. >You are right, they only say it's best to point to a forum. I'm just not sure what would be the best forum to use. Having a thread on mozillazine is not good IMHO because: 1. Topics cannot be threaded; everything is in a single thread 2. Users cannot subscribe to individual threads (the ones they are interested in) to get email notifications of replies. They must either subscribe to the entire thread and get spammed about topics about your extension they don't care about, or not subscribe at all. The latter is extremely annoying because then the user has to keep checking mozillazine for replies relevant to his question. Additionally, when searching for replies to his post, he has to wade through many irrelevant posts/pages. 3. "Search" isn't as good IMHO on mozillazine on a per-thread basis as it is with Drupal forums. 4. Users are forced to register at mozillazine in order to post. They have to provide an email address, confirm the email address, etc. That's really annoying if you want to comment on something once about an extension and don't plan to be an active commenter. With Drupal forums, you can configure Drupal so that people don't have to register in order to post. You can further configure Drupal so that anonymous (non-registered users) must solve a CAPTCHA puzzle in order to post -- this minimizes spam quite well. >And I have the same uncertainty about other pages on my project website. On the main index.html every project has a What's new, for example, >but it would probably be more logical to Blog what's new. Personally, I never used the "What's New" section of the mozdev template for my mozdev projects. I would blog about it if I were in your shoes; people can subscribe to your blog but not the "What's New" section. Alternatively, you can make posts to your forum announcing new features. That's what I've typically done only because I'm not a blogger :) >Also by putting my extension on AMO, it now has two download locations. It may be best to keep it that way, so I can more easily release new >versions first on mozdev, than to the AMO sandbox and finally to AMO public, but I'm not sure about that either... I have very mixed feelings about this and am undecided right now. FWIW, mozdev will soon (hopefully this year) have tight integration with AMO. Although the details aren't fleshed out, this means, among other things, you should be able to release your XPI on mozdev, and it will automatically be updated on AMO. Statistics integration with AMO between our two dashboards is another potential area for integration. >I hope that such a discussion can help me to make up my mind on how to setup my website and help mozdev to further improve the way they >present the new features to the public... HTH, Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From eric.jung at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 14:27:53 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed Message-ID: <40966.88132.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Onno Ekker > I didn't use notes on my project page, but I already got spam on my main > wiki page before I even put content on it myself... Default drupal setup > allows for unauthenticated comments. So drupal is no safe haven from > spam :-( It is safe if you configure it correctly. I suspect you've figured that out :) I think you have three options: 1. configure drupal so users must register to post, 2. disable comments on the wiki, 3. configure CAPTCHA to prevent bots ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From philip.chee at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 20:18:13 2008 From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:18:13 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] Error with www.mozdev.org Warning: Unrecognized at-rule or error parsing at-rule '@CHARSET'. Message-ID: Hi! Warning: Unrecognized at-rule or error parsing at-rule '@CHARSET'. Source file: https://www.mozdev.org/skin/tools-css.php Line: 8 @import url(//www.mozdev.org/reorg/b-i-f.css); div#content { padding: 2em; } /* TOOLS_SKIN = spring/tools.css */ @CHARSET "UTF-8"; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]It's not in the manual !!!!! * TagZilla 0.066.6 From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 23:30:17 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:30:17 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] "Notes" are being spammed In-Reply-To: <40966.88132.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <40966.88132.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <767de81b0804212330s2e6dd4b0j20707021a838b0de@mail.gmail.com> Eric H. Jung wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Onno Ekker > > > I didn't use notes on my project page, but I already got spam on my main > > wiki page before I even put content on it myself... Default drupal setup > > allows for unauthenticated comments. So drupal is no safe haven from > > spam :-( > > It is safe if you configure it correctly. I suspect you've figured that > out :) I figured that out indeed. The point I was trying to make was, that the default setup wasn't (spam) safe, so maybe that could need some tuning. > > I think you have three options: > > 1. configure drupal so users must register to post, > 2. disable comments on the wiki, > 3. configure CAPTCHA to prevent bots To prevent spam I originally went for option 1. only registered users may post. Based on your other mail about forums, I think it's probably better (at least more user-friendly) to go for option 3, although computers are getting better in CAPTCHA than humans... Either way, it's probably easier to get rid of spam on drupal than it is on the old notes system. Thanks again for your 2 cents :-) Onno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080422/40aa1ab7/attachment.html From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 22 05:42:04 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:42:04 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Error with www.mozdev.org Warning: Unrecognized at-rule or error parsing at-rule '@CHARSET'. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804220842.04287.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Monday 21 April 2008 23:18:13 Philip Chee wrote: > Warning: Unrecognized at-rule or error parsing at-rule '@CHARSET'. > Source file: https://www.mozdev.org/skin/tools-css.php > Line: 8 Thanks; fixed! -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080422/03299a83/attachment.bin From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 12:31:44 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:31:44 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work Message-ID: <767de81b0804221231r64a4c155td7ac5f8a8a3f308c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am trying to allow anonymous post to my forums (again?), but I can't get it to work. When I go to the Home ? Administer ? Content management ? Forums I see under access control I have "post in this forum" allowed to both anonymous users and authenticated users, but when I go to the forum pages unauthenticated, they keep telling me to Login to post a new forum topic. I've Posted the settings but that didn't help either. Anonymous adding of comments to my Blog or Wiki is now working with CAPTCHA, but it doesn't work Forums... Am I doing something wrong? Onno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Onno On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Onno Ekker wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to allow anonymous post to my forums (again?), but I can't get > it to work. > > When I go to the Home ? Administer ? Content management ? Forums I see > under access control I have "post in this forum" allowed to both anonymous > users and authenticated users, but when I go to the forum pages > unauthenticated, they keep telling me to Loginto post a new forum topic. > > I've Posted the settings but that didn't help either. > > Anonymous adding of comments to my Blog or Wiki is now working with > CAPTCHA, but it doesn't work Forums... > > Am I doing something wrong? > > Onno > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I already did this too, but this setting is only for comments on forms, not for new topics. Now anonymous users can start a new topic without CAPTCHA and need CAPTCHA to comment on an existing topic. I want to allow them to start a new topic, but only with CAPTCHA enabled... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I want to allow them to start > a new topic, but only with CAPTCHA enabled... I haven't a found a way to enable captcha for creating new topics, either. I was forced to require registration for creating new topics on my forum [1]. - Adam [1] http://brief.mozdev.org/drupal/forum From wa84it at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 04:53:10 2008 From: wa84it at gmail.com (wa84it) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:53:10 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work In-Reply-To: <767de81b0804222103v4a22e539sd59000b67ec35a4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <480E13C4.11565.2164BC9@wa84it.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480EDCD6.12023.15EAE6@wa84it.gmail.com> On 23 Apr 2008 at 6:03, Onno Ekker wrote: [...] > > I already did this too, but this setting is only for comments on forms, not for new > topics. > > Now anonymous users can start a new topic without CAPTCHA and need CAPTCHA to > comment on an existing topic. I want to allow them to start a new topic, but only > with CAPTCHA enabled... Sorry for misunderstanding. Check the 'Add CAPTCHA adminstration links to forms' at the top of the CAPTCHA page, and CAPTCHA will show up on every page where you can place one(when you are logged in as admin). It's collapsed, so you need to click CAPTCHA and then choose your type. The page is called 'forum_node_form', but I don't know how else you can add it. -Ron -- misterp wa84it at gmail.com From eric.jung at yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 06:41:37 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work Message-ID: <249572.88673.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wish we had screenshots of how to do this...I really want to do it, too. In fact, I wish it was mozdev's default for drupal forums :) ----- Original Message ---- > From: wa84it > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:53:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work > > > > On 23 Apr 2008 at 6:03, Onno Ekker wrote: > [...] > > > > I already did this too, but this setting is only for comments on forms, not > for new > > topics. > > > > Now anonymous users can start a new topic without CAPTCHA and need CAPTCHA to > > comment on an existing topic. I want to allow them to start a new topic, but > only > > with CAPTCHA enabled... > > Sorry for misunderstanding. Check the 'Add CAPTCHA > adminstration links to forms' at the top of the CAPTCHA page, and > CAPTCHA will show up on every page where you can place > one(when you are logged in as admin). It's collapsed, so you > need to click CAPTCHA and then choose your type. The page is > called 'forum_node_form', but I don't know how else you can add > it. > > -Ron > -- > misterp > wa84it at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 07:19:55 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:19:55 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work In-Reply-To: <249572.88673.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <249572.88673.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480F458B.5020806@gmail.com> Good news. With this latest setting I managed to get Anonymous Posts and Comments to work on Wiki, Blog and Forum! I can't give a recap of all the settings I had to wade through to get it to work, though. I remember that one of the first things I tried actually permitted Anonymous users to administer all the CAPTCHA settings :-( Maybe Ron / wa84it can give an overview of the necessary settings? I think all the project owners can (and are encouraged) to document in the mozdev Wiki. And I agree with Eric that this would be a nice default setting. Maybe mozdev team can optimize their settings (for new projects probably)? Onno Eric H. Jung wrote: > I wish we had screenshots of how to do this...I really want to do it, too. In fact, I wish it was mozdev's default for drupal forums :) > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: wa84it >> To: Mozdev Project Owners List >> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:53:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work >> >> >> >> On 23 Apr 2008 at 6:03, Onno Ekker wrote: >> [...] >> >>> I already did this too, but this setting is only for comments on forms, not >>> >> for new >> >>> topics. >>> >>> Now anonymous users can start a new topic without CAPTCHA and need CAPTCHA to >>> comment on an existing topic. I want to allow them to start a new topic, but >>> >> only >> >>> with CAPTCHA enabled... >>> >> Sorry for misunderstanding. Check the 'Add CAPTCHA >> adminstration links to forms' at the top of the CAPTCHA page, and >> CAPTCHA will show up on every page where you can place >> one(when you are logged in as admin). It's collapsed, so you >> need to click CAPTCHA and then choose your type. The page is >> called 'forum_node_form', but I don't know how else you can add >> it. >> >> -Ron >> -- >> misterp >> wa84it at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Project_owners mailing list >> Project_owners at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080423/e5dfa02f/attachment-0001.html From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 23 07:52:06 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:52:06 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work In-Reply-To: <480F458B.5020806@gmail.com> References: <249572.88673.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <480F458B.5020806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804231052.15702.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Wednesday 23 April 2008 10:19:55 Onno Ekker wrote: > And I agree with Eric that this would be a nice default setting. > Maybe mozdev team can optimize their settings (for new projects probably)? I can definitely look into changing the defaults setup for new projects. A clear definition of what should be changed would be helpful (probably as bug in the mozdev product in bugzilla). -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080423/58730264/attachment.bin From eric.jung at yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 08:31:53 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Can't get anonymous post to drupal forum to work Message-ID: <998047.70620.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Douglas E. Warner > I can definitely look into changing the defaults setup for new projects. A > clear definition of what should be changed would be helpful (probably as bug > in the mozdev product in bugzilla). https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19009 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 09:14:53 2008 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Optimizing Drupal settings In-Reply-To: <480F458B.5020806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <469407.85249.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Maybe mozdev team can optimize their settings (for new projects > probably)? We definitely do want to optimize our Drupal settings. If project owners can document the tips and tricks they've done to get their Drupal install working the way they want it, that would be a big help to us in figuring out how we should configure new Drupal instances. Feel free to add this information on a new wiki page or in the docs. David From eric.jung at yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 10:11:19 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help Message-ID: <597811.80919.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've just discovered that people can post to my drupal forums after registering and the post appears just fine. But replies to posts don't appear unless (1) they confirm their email address or (2) I approve ("publish") the post. How can I permit registered users to post replies without having to approve their email address? Actually, I'd like to allow anonymous users to post new thread and new replies, but I cannot get that to work even with the recent discussion. Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From m.testi at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:20:35 2008 From: m.testi at gmail.com (Marcello Testi) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:20:35 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <597811.80919.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <597811.80919.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 23/apr/08, alle ore 19:11, Eric H. Jung ha scritto: > I've just discovered that people can post to my drupal forums after > registering and the post appears just fine. But replies to posts > don't appear unless (1) they confirm their email address or (2) I > approve ("publish") the post. How can I permit registered users to > post replies without having to approve their email address? > > Actually, I'd like to allow anonymous users to post new thread and > new replies, but I cannot get that to work even with the recent > discussion. I think it's the comment module permissions that rule how forum replies are handled. I can't check right now, but let me know later if you need further help. Ciao. Marcello. From silfreed at silfreed.net Wed Apr 23 10:25:05 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:25:05 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <597811.80919.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <597811.80919.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200804231325.05336.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Wednesday 23 April 2008 13:11:19 Eric H. Jung wrote: > I've just discovered that people can post to my drupal forums after > registering and the post appears just fine. But replies to posts don't > appear unless (1) they confirm their email address or (2) I approve > ("publish") the post. How can I permit registered users to post replies > without having to approve their email address? > > Actually, I'd like to allow anonymous users to post new thread and new > replies, but I cannot get that to work even with the recent discussion. To allow anonymous users to post without approval: Goto Admin -> User Management -> Access Control Comments Section, Check "post comments without approval" for the Anonymous user, Click "Save permissions" at the bottom of the page. Is the email confirmation the one that you're receiving for new users where you need to activate them? If that's the case, you need to go to: Admin -> User Management -> User Settings Under "User registration settings" set "Visitors can create accounts and no administrator approval is required." and click "Save configuration" at the bottom of the page. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone have suggestions? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From wa84it at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 11:22:15 2008 From: wa84it at gmail.com (wa84it) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:22:15 -0500 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480F3807.11453.17A2210@wa84it.gmail.com> On 23 Apr 2008 at 11:08, Eric H. Jung wrote: > > I don't get any emails currently. I'd like to be notified via email whenever : > > 1. There is a new post in any of the forums > 2. There is a new reply in any of the forums > > This would prevent me from having to continually visit the forums 10 times per day just to see if someone has posted a question. > > Anyone have suggestions? > They all have RSS feeds, then use a RSS -> email forwarder if you want. I know nothing about such forwarders except that they exist, googling turns some up. -Ron -- misterp wa84it at gmail.com From m.testi at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:30:56 2008 From: m.testi at gmail.com (Marcello Testi) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:30:56 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9B96F331-7CA4-4B66-8BA6-950065A7A29A@gmail.com> Il giorno 23/apr/08, alle ore 20:08, Eric H. Jung ha scritto: > I'd like to be notified via email whenever : > > 1. There is a new post in any of the forums > 2. There is a new reply in any of the forums The Subscriptions module would do the trick, but I read that it's under heavy maintenance at the moment. You could try if the current version works ok for you. Otherwise, you could use the Notify module, which does similar things. http://drupal.org/project/subscriptions http://drupal.org/project/notify Make sure to read all the instructions on each module's page. Ciao. Marcello. From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:17:27 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:17:27 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480F8B47.6020900@gmail.com> Eric H. Jung wrote: > > I don't get any emails currently. I'd like to be notified via email whenever : > > 1. There is a new post in any of the forums > 2. There is a new reply in any of the forums > > You can subscribe to the categories: Go to admin -> My subscriptions -> categories check all forums Save to activate... Apparently a forum is a category? Onno -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 13:11:43 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:11:43 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help In-Reply-To: <9B96F331-7CA4-4B66-8BA6-950065A7A29A@gmail.com> References: <462585.89470.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9B96F331-7CA4-4B66-8BA6-950065A7A29A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <480F97FF.4010607@gmail.com> Marcello Testi wrote: > Il giorno 23/apr/08, alle ore 20:08, Eric H. Jung ha scritto: > > >> I'd like to be notified via email whenever : >> >> 1. There is a new post in any of the forums >> 2. There is a new reply in any of the forums >> > > The Subscriptions module would do the trick, but I read that it's > under heavy maintenance at the moment. You could try if the current > version works ok for you. Otherwise, you could use the Notify module, > which does similar things. > http://drupal.org/project/subscriptions > http://drupal.org/project/notify > > Make sure to read all the instructions on each module's page. > The subscriptions module works ok for me. I can't find the notify module on mozdev's drupal. From silfreed at silfreed.net Thu Apr 24 07:37:59 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] [Mirrors] Mime-type changes for .rdf files In-Reply-To: <200804231545.25441.silfreed@silfreed.net> References: <200804231545.25441.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <200804241037.59917.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Wednesday 23 April 2008 15:45:25 Douglas E. Warner wrote: > According to Mozilla documentation [1], .rdf files should be served as > text/xml. We've updated our recommended mime-types for mirrors [2] and > will be updating our servers to serve .rdf files as text/xml in the near > future. > > If you have any questions about this change, let us know. > > -Doug > > [1] http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/install.rdf > [2] http://mirrors.mozdev.org/mime-types.html Apparently we don't need to change anything. application/rdf+xml is the appropriate mime-type for RDF documents according to RFC 3870 [1]. I've checked with people at Mozilla and apparently the documentation should be updated to reflect that application/rdf+xml is valid; I'll be doing that shortly. Sorry for the noise and the trouble. -Doug [1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3870.txt -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080424/65647344/attachment.bin From eric.jung at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 08:40:07 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] drupal forums help Message-ID: <913580.25361.qm@web30307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Onno Ekker > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 3:17:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] drupal forums help > > Eric H. Jung wrote: > > > > I don't get any emails currently. I'd like to be notified via email whenever > : > > > > 1. There is a new post in any of the forums > > 2. There is a new reply in any of the forums > > > > > You can subscribe to the categories: > Go to admin -> My subscriptions -> categories > check all forums > Save to activate... > Thanks, Onno!! I should put this on the mozdev wiki... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From shri at devlib.org Wed Apr 23 19:03:57 2008 From: shri at devlib.org (Shri @ Devlib.Org) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:03:57 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] [Mirrors] Mime-type changes for .rdf files References: <200804231545.25441.silfreed@silfreed.net> Message-ID: <002401c8a5af$76f867f0$6301a8c0@shridesk> You folks might want to consider this http://www.w3.org/2000/03/rdf-tracking/#mime-types-for-rdf-docs http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3870.txt I'd take the W3's word over Mozilla on this issue. (Don't mean to start any religious debates over mime types and perhaps not going to be possible to change Mozilla's opinion on this issue... ) Regards, Shri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas E. Warner" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 3:45 AM Subject: [Mirrors] Mime-type changes for .rdf files > _______________________________________________ > Mirrors mailing list > Mirrors at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/mirrors > From S.M.Claassen at stalemate.nl Thu Apr 24 14:09:48 2008 From: S.M.Claassen at stalemate.nl (S.M. Claassen) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:09:48 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Project_owners] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev Message-ID: Eric Jung states that with regard to whether "Project Owner Retains Copyrights" on SourceForge that "by uploading code to SourceForge.net, you grant SourceForge a perpetual proprietary license, in effect handing over the copyright to SourceForge1". He bases this on the following passages from the SourceForge Terms of Service: ------- "By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through SourceForge.net, you grant Company a worldwide, non-exclusive, irrevocable, perpetual, fully sublicensable, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, create derivative works from, publish, perform, display, rent, resell and distribute such Content (in whole or part) on SourceForge.net and incorporate Content in other works, in any form, media, or technology developed by Company, though Company is not required to incorporate Feedback into any Company products or services. Company reserves the right to syndicate Content submitted, posted or displayed by you on or through SourceForge.net and use that Content in connection with any service offered by Company." ------- However, the previous paragraphs of those same Terms of Service specifically stipulate: ------- "Except for Feedback, which you agree to grant COMPANY any and all intellectual property rights owned or controlled by you relating to the Feedback, COMPANY claims no ownership or control over any Content. You or your third party licensor, as applicable, retain all intellectual property rights to any Content and you are responsible for protecting those rights, as appropriate. With respect to SourceForge.net Public Content, the submitting user retains ownership of such SourceForge.net Public Content, except that publicly-available statistical content which is generated by COMPANY to monitor and display SourceForge.net project activity is owned by COMPANY." ------- Viewed in this context SourceForge recognizes that SourceForge developers retain ownership and (copy)rights of their content but exacts a GPL/Commons-style license from them. This would only be a problem if the license you had in mind was more restrictive. In this case an open-source hosting site might not be your venue. Cordially yours, S.M. Claassen From eric.jung at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 08:05:49 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] GUI design - screenshots included - your opinion? Message-ID: <45178.84722.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, My main options dialog consists primarily of 5 tabs. Two of the tabs are getting larger and more complex, so I want to move them into their own dialog boxes. If I leave them as tabs, they will make the options dialog too large. Here are the existing tabs (note this is BEFORE I've added more content to them, so they actually look OK in these two screenshots) http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/quickadd.png http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/autoadd.png Here's a mockup of the options dialog after they've those 2 tabs have been moved into dialogs: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2694/captureea2.png (Notice they are now simply buttons) This looks really weird to me, and I'm wondering if anyone has ideas how else I might do this. Thank you, Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 08:29:32 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:29:32 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] GUI design - screenshots included - your opinion? In-Reply-To: <45178.84722.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <45178.84722.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4811F8DC.60102@gmail.com> Eric H. Jung wrote: > Hi, > > My main options dialog consists primarily of 5 tabs. Two of the tabs are getting larger and more complex, so I want to move them into their own dialog boxes. If I leave them as tabs, they will make the options dialog too large. Here are the existing tabs (note this is BEFORE I've added more content to them, so they actually look OK in these two screenshots) > > http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/quickadd.png > http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/autoadd.png > > Here's a mockup of the options dialog after they've those 2 tabs have been moved into dialogs: > > http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2694/captureea2.png > (Notice they are now simply buttons) > > This looks really weird to me, and I'm wondering if anyone has ideas how else I might do this. > > Maybe you could do it like Thunderbird -> Options -> Advanced -> Certificates. It contains the buttons and opens the dialog in a new window... Onno From stalemat at inter.nl.net Fri Apr 25 12:37:34 2008 From: stalemat at inter.nl.net (S.M. Claassen) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:37:34 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Project_owners] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev In-Reply-To: <96460.74834.qm@web30304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, Eric, On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Eric H. Jung wrote: > [...] > This information was copied-and-pasted almost verbatim from wikipedia.org's > entry on SourceForge. I am not a lawyer and would not attempt to comment > on the conflicting terminology SourceForge writes about in their terms > of service. Feel free to edit the mozdev wiki as you see fit. It is > public for that very reason. > [...] > I'm no legal eagle either but feel conversant enough with intellectual property issues to know that one does not surrender ownership or copyrights through licensing (unless you wish to narrowly consider copyleft-style open-source licenses as such). With your permission and that of the other list members I'd like to scratch the interpretation that SourceForge developers are "in effect handing over the copyright to SourceForge", retaining the reference to the kind of license required by SourceForge and leaving the interpreting to the (informed) reader. Thanks for your consideration. Cordially yours, Silvester Claassen > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: S.M. Claassen > > To: project-owners at mozdev.org > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:09:48 PM > > Subject: [Project_owners] http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev > > > > Eric Jung states that with regard to whether "Project Owner Retains > > Copyrights" on SourceForge that "by uploading code to SourceForge.net, you > > grant SourceForge a perpetual proprietary license, in effect handing over > > the copyright to SourceForge1". He bases this on the following passages > > from the SourceForge Terms of Service: > > > > ------- > > "By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through > > SourceForge.net, you grant Company a worldwide, non-exclusive, > > irrevocable, perpetual, fully sublicensable, royalty-free license to use, > > reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, create derivative works from, > > publish, perform, display, rent, resell and distribute such Content (in > > whole or part) on SourceForge.net and incorporate Content in other works, > > in any form, media, or technology developed by Company, though Company is > > not required to incorporate Feedback into any Company products or > > services. Company reserves the right to syndicate Content submitted, > > posted or displayed by you on or through SourceForge.net and use that > > Content in connection with any service offered by Company." > > ------- > > > > However, the previous paragraphs of those same Terms of Service > > specifically stipulate: > > > > ------- > > "Except for Feedback, which you agree to grant COMPANY any and all > > intellectual property rights owned or controlled by you relating to the > > Feedback, COMPANY claims no ownership or control over any Content. You or > > your third party licensor, as applicable, retain all intellectual property > > rights to any Content and you are responsible for protecting those rights, > > as appropriate. > > > > With respect to SourceForge.net Public Content, the submitting user > > retains ownership of such SourceForge.net Public Content, except that > > publicly-available statistical content which is generated by COMPANY to > > monitor and display SourceForge.net project activity is owned by COMPANY." > > ------- > > > > Viewed in this context SourceForge recognizes that SourceForge developers > > retain ownership and (copy)rights of their content but exacts a > > GPL/Commons-style license from them. This would only be a problem if the > > license you had in mind was more restrictive. In this case an open-source > > hosting site might not be your venue. > > > > Cordially yours, > > > > S.M. Claassen > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Project_owners mailing list > > Project_owners at mozdev.org > > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > From jingweno at cs.ubc.ca Fri Apr 25 13:35:52 2008 From: jingweno at cs.ubc.ca (Jingwen 'Owen' Ou) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:35:52 -0700 Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <481240A8.8070202@cs.ubc.ca> Hiya, I have noticed some folks' web pages on Movdev get a new look and a new theme. But mine is still the same: http://occamhighlighter.mozdev.org/ Has Movdev been through an update? If do, how can I also update my web page? I know nothing about PHP... Thank you, Owen From davidwboswell at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 13:59:37 2008 From: davidwboswell at yahoo.com (David Boswell) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? In-Reply-To: <481240A8.8070202@cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: <230470.46049.qm@web33002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Owen, By default all projects get the basic mozdev branding, but it is possible to turn off part or all of this design and replace it with your own. There's more information at http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc7 David > Hiya, > > I have noticed some folks' web pages on Movdev get a new look and a > new > theme. But mine is still the same: > > http://occamhighlighter.mozdev.org/ > > Has Movdev been through an update? If do, how can I also update my > web > page? I know nothing about PHP... > > Thank you, > Owen > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From eric.jung at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 14:15:57 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? Message-ID: <765326.60177.qm@web30308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Owen, don't forget you can also use the Drupal themes very easily "? For example: http://brief.mozdev.org Just send a request to sysadmin at mozdev.org for drupal installation on your project. ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Boswell > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 4:59:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? > > Owen, > > By default all projects get the basic mozdev branding, but it is > possible to turn off part or all of this design and replace it with > your own. There's more information at > > http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/MozdevDocs#toc7 > > David > > > > Hiya, > > > > I have noticed some folks' web pages on Movdev get a new look and a > > new > > theme. But mine is still the same: > > > > http://occamhighlighter.mozdev.org/ > > > > Has Movdev been through an update? If do, how can I also update my > > web > > page? I know nothing about PHP... > > > > Thank you, > > Owen > > _______________________________________________ > > Project_owners mailing list > > Project_owners at mozdev.org > > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From adamsplugins at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 19:03:45 2008 From: adamsplugins at gmail.com (Adam Judson) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:03:45 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] GUI design - screenshots included - your opinion? In-Reply-To: <4811F8DC.60102@gmail.com> References: <45178.84722.qm@web30305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4811F8DC.60102@gmail.com> Message-ID: Seems like the buttons should be on the proxies tab rather than outside the tabs. As far as I can tell, they both represent specific actions relating to proxies. Adam 2008/4/25 Onno Ekker : > Eric H. Jung wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My main options dialog consists primarily of 5 tabs. Two of the tabs are getting larger and more complex, so I want to move them into their own dialog boxes. If I leave them as tabs, they will make the options dialog too large. Here are the existing tabs (note this is BEFORE I've added more content to them, so they actually look OK in these two screenshots) > > > > http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/quickadd.png > > http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/images/screenshots/current/autoadd.png > > > > Here's a mockup of the options dialog after they've those 2 tabs have been moved into dialogs: > > > > http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2694/captureea2.png > > (Notice they are now simply buttons) > > > > This looks really weird to me, and I'm wondering if anyone has ideas how else I might do this. > > > > > Maybe you could do it like Thunderbird -> Options -> Advanced -> > Certificates. > It contains the buttons and opens the dialog in a new window... > > Onno > > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From o.e.ekker at gmail.com Sat Apr 26 00:46:16 2008 From: o.e.ekker at gmail.com (Onno Ekker) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:46:16 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? In-Reply-To: <481240A8.8070202@cs.ubc.ca> References: <481240A8.8070202@cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: <4812DDC8.6030607@gmail.com> Jingwen 'Owen' Ou wrote: > Hiya, > > I have noticed some folks' web pages on Movdev get a new look and a new > theme. But mine is still the same: > > http://occamhighlighter.mozdev.org/ > This documentation for look and feel is described in http://www.mozdev.org/docs/localconf.html The special themes are described in http://not.mozdev.org/gallery/ You should edit your local.conf and uncomment the line // $now = time(); if you want your project page to inherit mozdev's special themes. Onno From brian at mozdev.org Sat Apr 26 07:27:27 2008 From: brian at mozdev.org (Brian King) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:27:27 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? In-Reply-To: <4812DDC8.6030607@gmail.com> References: <481240A8.8070202@cs.ubc.ca> <4812DDC8.6030607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48133BCF.1000807@mozdev.org> Onno Ekker wrote: > Jingwen 'Owen' Ou wrote: >> Hiya, >> >> I have noticed some folks' web pages on Movdev get a new look and a new >> theme. But mine is still the same: >> >> http://occamhighlighter.mozdev.org/ >> > This documentation for look and feel is described in > http://www.mozdev.org/docs/localconf.html > The special themes are described in http://not.mozdev.org/gallery/ > > You should edit your local.conf and uncomment the line // $now = > time(); if you want your project page to > inherit mozdev's special themes. Yes, see: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/blog/Happy-St-Patricks-Day-Mozdev - Brian From philip.chee at gmail.com Sat Apr 26 08:17:43 2008 From: philip.chee at gmail.com (Philip Chee) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:17:43 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] Blog question. Message-ID: I understand that the drupal wossit on mozdev supports blogs. At the moment I have three projects on mozdev, one of them has a couple of subprojects. Now if I just want one blog not directly tied to a project (it would be too much to have three blogs one for each project given that I plan less than one blog post per year) is that possible? e.g. (I don't plan to actually blog, but it's hard to test a blogging extension without an actual blog). Phil -- Philip Chee , http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]This tagline is SHAREWARE! To register, send me $10 * TagZilla 0.066.6 From stalemat at inter.nl.net Sat Apr 26 11:33:07 2008 From: stalemat at inter.nl.net (S.M. Claassen) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:33:07 +0200 (MEST) Subject: [Project_owners] Google requires same proprietary license as SourceForge for hosting Message-ID: Hi, Eric and project owners, Pursuant to my last exchange with Eric Jung regarding retention of ownership/copyright of content on SourceForge, I consulted Google's website for its terms of service. It turns out that Google similarly requires "a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services". This being the case, I propose amending the item "Project Owner Retains Copyrights" on http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/WhyMozdev to read instead "Content License Required for Services". Barring any objections or further suggestions from project_owners, I will appropriately edit the current wiki entry. Thanks for your attention. Cordially yours, Silvester Claassen From eric.jung at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 10:14:27 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] Movdev updated? Message-ID: <57926.4276.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Onno Ekker > The special themes are described in http://not.mozdev.org/gallery/ What happened to celebrating St. Swithin's Day? :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From eric.jung at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 10:31:54 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ Message-ID: <743573.33480.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, I've followed everyone's advice on drupal forums, but I still have the following problem: When a user (registered or unregistered) replies to an existing forum post, the post requires moderator approval before it is public. I'm willing to pay someone to help me get rid of this required approval while still maintaining captcha. Contact me off-list or in irc.mozilla.org#mozdev. Thanks, Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From me at paulbooker.co.uk Tue Apr 29 00:38:15 2008 From: me at paulbooker.co.uk (me at paulbooker.co.uk) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:38:15 +0100 Subject: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ In-Reply-To: <743573.33480.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <743573.33480.qm@web30302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <601A6102-FF76-4DD9-BF81-01A6414F5AC3@paulbooker.co.uk> Hi Erik, I can fix this for you. Please get back to me at paul at drupalr.org http://drupalr.org/?q=paulbooker Best, Paul On 28 Apr 2008, at 18:31, Eric H. Jung wrote: > Hi, > > I've followed everyone's advice on drupal forums, but I still have > the following problem: > > When a user (registered or unregistered) replies to an existing > forum post, the post requires moderator approval before it is public. > > I'm willing to pay someone to help me get rid of this required > approval while still maintaining captcha. > > Contact me off-list or in irc.mozilla.org#mozdev. > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// > mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From silfreed at silfreed.net Tue Apr 29 05:58:45 2008 From: silfreed at silfreed.net (Douglas E. Warner) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Project_owners] Blog question. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200804290858.45414.silfreed@silfreed.net> On Saturday 26 April 2008 11:17:43 Philip Chee wrote: > I understand that the drupal wossit on mozdev supports blogs. At the > moment I have three projects on mozdev, one of them has a couple of > subprojects. Now if I just want one blog not directly tied to a project > (it would be too much to have three blogs one for each project given > that I plan less than one blog post per year) is that possible? e.g. > > > (I don't plan to actually blog, but it's hard to test a blogging > extension without an actual blog). Probably the best setup here would be for us to put Drupal up at one of your projects and just reference that for the "Developer blog" from all your other projects. -Doug -- Douglas E. Warner Site Developer Mozdev.org http://www.mozdev.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080429/60349bfb/attachment.bin From eric.jung at yahoo.com Tue Apr 29 15:10:49 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ Message-ID: <197390.1700.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FYI... ----- Original Message ---- > From: Eric H. Jung > > Hi, > > I've followed everyone's advice on drupal forums, but I still have the following > problem: > > When a user (registered or unregistered) replies to an existing forum post, the > post requires moderator approval before it is public. > > I'm willing to pay someone to help me get rid of this required approval while > still maintaining captcha. > > Contact me off-list or in irc.mozilla.org#mozdev. I contracted with Paul Booker to help me. After granting him admin rights, he was able to determine that the askismet module was somehow conflicting with the forums module. Disabling akismet solved the problem, and since I don't use akismet, there were no problems. Lesson learned: turn off akismet if you don't use it. Eric ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From jesper at heroes-addon.dk Wed Apr 30 02:41:28 2008 From: jesper at heroes-addon.dk (Jesper Staun Hansen) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:41:28 +0200 Subject: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ In-Reply-To: <197390.1700.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <197390.1700.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48183EC8.6050906@heroes-addon.dk> What is akismet? Eric H. Jung wrote: > FYI... > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Eric H. Jung >> >> Hi, >> >> I've followed everyone's advice on drupal forums, but I still have the following >> problem: >> >> When a user (registered or unregistered) replies to an existing forum post, the >> post requires moderator approval before it is public. >> >> I'm willing to pay someone to help me get rid of this required approval while >> still maintaining captcha. >> >> Contact me off-list or in irc.mozilla.org#mozdev. >> > > > I contracted with Paul Booker to help me. After granting him admin rights, he was able to determine that the askismet module was somehow conflicting with the forums module. Disabling akismet solved the problem, and since I don't use akismet, there were no problems. > > Lesson learned: turn off akismet if you don't use it. > > Eric > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > > From belaviyo at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 07:33:46 2008 From: belaviyo at gmail.com (joe ertaba) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:03:46 +0330 Subject: [Project_owners] create new folder in jar file Message-ID: <23d9f6b20804300733t79894df6h47609d672774a3c5@mail.gmail.com> hi there, I want to create new folder in my skin folder of my extension chrome\skin\classic\MyNewFolder chrome.manifest: skin MyExtensionName classic/1.0 jar:chrome/MyExtensionName.jar!/skin/classic/ *is there any thing else needed in chrome.manifest to use this folder* I want to call MyFile.ext 1. chrome://MyExtensionName\skin\MyNewFolder\MyFile.ext 2. chrome://MyExtensionName\MyNewFolder\MyFile.ext which one is correct ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/project_owners/attachments/20080430/6ba2a272/attachment.html From antonglv at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 07:57:44 2008 From: antonglv at gmail.com (Anton Glazatov) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:57:44 +0800 Subject: [Project_owners] create new folder in jar file In-Reply-To: <23d9f6b20804300733t79894df6h47609d672774a3c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <23d9f6b20804300733t79894df6h47609d672774a3c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <481888E8.4070705@gmail.com> The first, only if replace '\' with '/' > hi there, > > I want to create new folder in my skin folder of my extension > > chrome\skin\classic\MyNewFolder > chrome.manifest: > skin MyExtensionName classic/1.0 > jar:chrome/MyExtensionName.jar!/skin/classic/ > *is there any thing else needed in chrome.manifest to use this folder* > > I want to call MyFile.ext > > 1. chrome://MyExtensionName\skin\MyNewFolder\MyFile.ext > 2. chrome://MyExtensionName\MyNewFolder\MyFile.ext > > which one is correct ? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Project_owners mailing list > Project_owners at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners > From eric.jung at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 08:37:31 2008 From: eric.jung at yahoo.com (Eric H. Jung) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ Message-ID: <564531.51204.qm@web30306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jesper Staun Hansen > To: Mozdev Project Owners List > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:41:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] looking for drupal expert - make $ > > What is akismet? > http://akismet.com/ as a drupal module. My point was to disable any modules you don't use. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ