[Project_owners] MS Office and Seamonkey
fcassia at netscape.net
Mon Sep 15 13:43:18 EDT 2003
Add me to the list of people who are totally pissed off by the
de-integration of the Mozilla Browser Suite into separate applications.
I've exchanged mails with dozens of users, and I think I can come up
with a very long list of users that have shared my feelings.
I was pissed too, when Sun decided to split the integrated "StarOffice"
as in 5.2 into "separate applications", just "because Microsoft does it".
In Mozilla 1.4/Netscape 7.1, I love right clicking on an email address
and adding that address to the address book. I love on Netscape Mail
being able to see the aim icon/status next to an @aol.com /@netscape.net
I love being able to select "Edit Page" from Navigator to have the page
instantly load in Composer.
But of course, a select group "loves" to destroy all that integration,
in the name of "simplicity"....
mozilla at clav.me.uk wrote:
> John Dobbins wrote:
> Office is not integrated to anything like the extent that Seamonkey
> is. For example:
> - Apps do not have a Window menu listing windows from the other apps.
> - Each app has its own Options window, rather than the all-in-one-mess
> that seamonkey has
> - There are no equivalents to such ridiculous things as New > Address
> Book Card being shown in *Navigator*
> - Exit does not exit all the seperate office apps. It will exit all
> the seemingly seperate seamonkey components.
> In fact, the only integration in MS Office that I can see is things
> like inline editing of an excel spreadsheet embedded in a Word
> document. And the sum total of all UI used by that is double clicking
> on the embedded object. And there's the office clipboard of course,
> though that grabs anything stuff you copy to the clipboard from *any*
> app, not just Office ones, so is more of a system utility.
> And that list can double as my reasons for wanting to use
> Firebird+Thunderbird rather than Seamonkey. As well as:
> - the entire Navigator Tools menu, the only two items on which I used
> more than about 2 times ever -- DOM Inspector and JS Console -- are
> buried on a submenu!
> - an actually useful bookmarks toolbar where you can middle click
> things, and where the context menu actually works for submenus as well
> as jsut on the toolbar itself. (and other not immediately obvious
> things like this).
> - not having to add stuff to userChrome.css to kill the awful toolbar
> grippies. (In firebird should you want to quickly turn off a toolbar
> you would simply righ click on it and untick it in the context menu,
> in recent nightlies at least.)
> - extension developement is a lot easier when not hunting through 200
> overlay files, many of them dynamic, to find a specific part of the UI
> I want to change.
> - the horribly ugly 16 colour theme in seamonkey, and the lack of
> decent alternatives. i'm not a great fan of the friebird default
> either, but it's better. (the thunderbird theme is very nice imo)
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