[Project_owners] Solution to new SPAM tactic

Chris Neale cdn at mozdev.org
Wed Oct 8 21:29:25 EDT 2003


On Wednesday 08 Oct 2003 20:19, Brian Bober wrote:
> There is a solution to this new SPAM tactic. Simply reject all emails from
> postmaster with a response they must use a form on the website to email
> postmaster. Forward those responses to a password-protected email box, or
> something of that nature. Have an image on that form they must identify.
> Also, have those images on every form on Mozdev. When they want to send
> SPAM, they'll have to identify each new image. It might not stop them, but
> it'll make their life a little harder.
>

we'd have to implement our our system, since junkeater requires that the URI 
is registered, so you'd have to register the URI of each and every page with 
NOTES[2]

> This has gone beyond simply advertising, too. Some of the SPAM we recieve
> is actually SPAMMERS protesting in a way to the government and others'
> anti-spam movement. They believe they have a constitutional right to SPAM
> us, and perhaps they do. My solution to this, that I will implement when I
> have time, is only allowing people to email me after they or I have
> registered their email on my site.
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:40:47 -0400
> > From: Pete Collins <pete at mozdev.org>
> > Subject: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: project_owners <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F820B8F.1000500 at mozdev.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> >
> > They are utterly relentless.
> >
> > There is a new spam tactic I just saw today.
> >
> > Spammers are sending spam to:
> >
> >    $project-owner at mozdev.org
> >
> > This is the mailman alias for the mailman list owner. There is just no
> > end to what they will do to send you spam.
> >
> > --pete
> >
> > --
> > Pete Collins
> > www.mozdev.org
> > www.mozdevgroup.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:54:00 -0400
> > From: mark bokil <mbokil at bokil.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F822AC8.4060703 at bokil.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> >
> > That is just plain evil. Who would ever respond to a company that did
> > that.
> >
> > -mark
> >
> > Pete Collins wrote:
> > > They are utterly relentless.
> > >
> > > There is a new spam tactic I just saw today.
> > >
> > > Spammers are sending spam to:
> > >
> > >   $project-owner at mozdev.org

themes-owner@ etc presumably ?

> > >
> > > This is the mailman alias for the mailman list owner. There is just no
> > > end to what they will do to send you spam.
> > >
> > > --pete
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:05:54 -0400
> > From: Mirzmaster <mirzmaster at rogers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F822D92.3050006 at rogers.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > This is ridiculous... there must be a way to combat these individuals.
> >
> > I recall from the previous thread on this spam issue that the
> > individual(s) responsible for the spamming are doing it over a dialup
> > connection... well surely there must be a way to track that person down
> > through their ISP.  What are the laws governing spam?  Shouldnt' it be
> > as simple as to report to the ISP of the spammer that the spammer had a
> > particular IP at a particular period in time during which they
> > intentionally spammed Mozdev projects, and have the ISP deal with that
> > client without revealing their personal information?  I am being too
> > naive about it?  :S
> >
> > Sohail Mirza
> > Owner, vCard Project
> > http://vcard.mozdev.org
> >
> > On 06/10/2003 10:54 PM, mark bokil wrote:
> > > That is just plain evil. Who would ever respond to a company that did
> > > that.
> > >
> > > -mark
> > >
> > > Pete Collins wrote:
> > >> They are utterly relentless.
> > >>
> > >> There is a new spam tactic I just saw today.
> > >>
> > >> Spammers are sending spam to:
> > >>
> > >>   $project-owner at mozdev.org
> > >>
> > >> This is the mailman alias for the mailman list owner. There is just
> > >> no end to what they will do to send you spam.
> > >>
> > >> --pete
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Project_owners mailing list
> > > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:17:34 -0500
> > From: Jay Garcia <Jay at JayGarcia.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F82304E.8050708 at JayGarcia.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On 06.10.03 22:05, Mirzmaster wrote:
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> >
> > > This is ridiculous... there must be a way to combat these individuals.
> > >
> > > I recall from the previous thread on this spam issue that the
> > > individual(s) responsible for the spamming are doing it over a dialup
> > > connection... well surely there must be a way to track that person down
> > > through their ISP.  What are the laws governing spam?  Shouldnt' it be
> > > as simple as to report to the ISP of the spammer that the spammer had a
> > > particular IP at a particular period in time during which they
> > > intentionally spammed Mozdev projects, and have the ISP deal with that
> > > client without revealing their personal information?  I am being too
> > > naive about it?  :S
> > >
> > > Sohail Mirza
> > > Owner, vCard Project
> > > http://vcard.mozdev.org
> > >
> > > On 06/10/2003 10:54 PM, mark bokil wrote:
> > >> That is just plain evil. Who would ever respond to a company that did
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> -mark
> > >>
> > >> Pete Collins wrote:
> > >>> They are utterly relentless.
> > >>>
> > >>> There is a new spam tactic I just saw today.
> > >>>
> > >>> Spammers are sending spam to:
> > >>>
> > >>>   $project-owner at mozdev.org
> > >>>
> > >>> This is the mailman alias for the mailman list owner. There is just
> > >>> no end to what they will do to send you spam.
> > >>>
> > >>> --pete
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Project_owners mailing list
> > >> Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > >> http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Project_owners mailing list
> > > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> > Send a report to the abuse at TheISP address and if the ISP has an AUP
> > specifically stating that spamming is against policy, then the ISP may
> > terminate the connection.
> >
> > Finding out who is responsible can be rather difficult and may require a
> > court order to do so because of privacy restrictions on the part of the
> > ISP. Let the ISP deal with it.
> >
> > --
> > Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion - Mozilla Champion
> > The UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 04:29:38 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Biju G C <bijumaillist at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <20031007032938.5719.qmail at web14609.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> >  --- Pete Collins <pete at mozdev.org> wrote:
> > > They are utterly relentless.
> > >
> > > There is a new spam tactic I just saw today.
> > >
> > > Spammers are sending spam to:
> > >
> > >    $project-owner at mozdev.org
> > >
> > > This is the mailman alias for the mailman list owner. There is just no
> > > end to what they will do to send you spam.
> >
> > To reduce spam we should also encript email id is at
> > http://www.mozdev.org/contact.html
> > http://quickmanager.mozdev.org/members.html
> > etc...
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:49:17 -0400
> > From: John Dobbins <john at brandxcomputers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F8237BD.9040808 at brandxcomputers.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> >
> > Jay Garcia wrote:
> > >Send a report to the abuse at TheISP address and if the ISP has an AUP
> > >specifically stating that spamming is against policy, then the ISP may
> > >terminate the connection.
> > >
> > >Finding out who is responsible can be rather difficult and may require a
> > >court order to do so because of privacy restrictions on the part of the
> > >ISP. Let the ISP deal with it.
> >
> > Spammers grab an account expecting it to be cancled in a day or two, so
> > reporting it just nabs ametaurs.
> >
> > These are pros working for one of the sites that promise to raise your
> > ranking in google. They do it by having lots of pages that link to thier
> > customers sites. Cancel thier account and they will have another one
> > tomorrow.
> >
> > John Dobbins.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:02:36 -0500
> > From: Jay Garcia <Jay at JayGarcia.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Project_owners] New Spam tactic
> > To: Mozdev Project Owners List <project_owners at mozdev.org>
> > Message-ID: <3F823ADC.2090603 at JayGarcia.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On 06.10.03 22:49, John Dobbins wrote:
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> >
> > > Jay Garcia wrote:
> > >>Send a report to the abuse at TheISP address and if the ISP has an AUP
> > >>specifically stating that spamming is against policy, then the ISP may
> > >>terminate the connection.
> > >>
> > >>Finding out who is responsible can be rather difficult and may require
> > >> a court order to do so because of privacy restrictions on the part of
> > >> the ISP. Let the ISP deal with it.
> > >
> > > Spammers grab an account expecting it to be cancled in a day or two, so
> > > reporting it just nabs ametaurs.
> > >
> > > These are pros working for one of the sites that promise to raise your
> > > ranking in google. They do it by having lots of pages that link to
> > > thier customers sites. Cancel thier account and they will have another
> > > one tomorrow.
> > >
> > > John Dobbins.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Project_owners mailing list
> > > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> > Only a rank amateur would spam this address. How many project_owner
> > mails go out? It's akin to harvesting addresses off the secure server,
> > IMHO.
> >
> > --
> > Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion - Mozilla Champion
> > The UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Project_owners mailing list
> > Project_owners at mozdev.org
> > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/project_owners
> >
> >
> > End of Project_owners Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7
> > ********************************************
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