[Project_owners] Tech-review Longhorn vs. Mozilla

Mirzmaster mirzmaster at rogers.com
Thu Dec 4 11:09:31 EST 2003


I stand corrected  ;)


On 04/12/2003 11:06 AM, Percy Cabello wrote:

>Well, in fact I already did it! ;) and it was easy!!
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>Percy
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>--- Mirzmaster <mirzmaster at rogers.com> wrote:
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>>Well, you can't on the one hand say the articles provides good insight 
>>on Mozilla and its upcoming competitor(s), yet on the other hand 
>>criticise the article for comparing Mozilla to Longhorn  :)
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>>I agree that Mozilla and Longhorn are two very different applications 
>>with two very different roles.  Despite that, there are some glaring 
>>similarities.  Developing UIs with XML-based languages is a relatively 
>>new concept and is only now entering the mainstream.  Microsoft's muscle 
>>behind Avalon is evidence enough.  What the article establishes though 
>>is that Avalon is in many ways similar to Mozilla, the pioneer into 
>>XML-based User Interfaces, and imho does acknowledge that Mozilla and 
>>Longhorn are overall two different beasts.
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>>Sohail Mirza
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>>On 04/12/2003 10:25 AM, Percy Cabello wrote:
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>>>I agree! I had the exact same feeling. Why could somebody think about
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>>comparing
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>>>an OS as a whole to Mozilla? how can Longhorn file system management could
>>>possibly compare to Mozilla's? It is like saying Windows Scripting Host is
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>>not
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>>>as good as Longhorn. 
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>>>Anyway the article is a heads up and provides a good insight on Mozilla app
>>>framework and coming competitor.
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>>>Percy
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>>>--- David Fraser <davidf at sjsoft.com> wrote:
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>>>>Benjamin Bock wrote:
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>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>I just read this Article and thought it is quite interesting:
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>>>>>http://www.devx.com/DevX/Article/17899
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>>>>>What do you experts think about this?
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>>>>>Thanks for your opinions :-)
>>>>>Benjamin Bock
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>>>>I also read the article, it's an interesting idea to compare the two, 
>>>>but the author makes some basic mistakes.
>>>>A lot of the similarities he finds are fairly surface-level. For 
>>>>example, the "Window in XML" - obviously if you have a very simple 
>>>>window, coded in XML, two different ways of doing it are going to look 
>>>>similar. Again, two JavaScript-based languages doing a SOAP call can't 
>>>>look that different.
>>>>The real differences in APIs are much more complex.
>>>>He's comparing an operating system to an application platform, and he 
>>>>sometimes makes significant errors in doing so.
>>>>For example:
>>>> "the vector-based rendering engine underneath Avalon, which is far 
>>>>more extensive and flexible than the raster-based one inside Mozilla."
>>>>I think if the things you comparing are like apples and oranges, and 
>>>>then you find some surface similarities, and then go on to find deeper 
>>>>differences, you haven't really concluded anything or shown anything, 
>>>>you need to do a much more in-depth intelligent analysis to do that.
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>>>>David
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