From ravindra_b at yahoo.com Tue Aug 5 04:56:32 2008 From: ravindra_b at yahoo.com (Raveendra Reddy B.) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Padma] Thanks for wonderful work Message-ID: <829983.39708.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dear Mr. Nagarjuna, Thank you for your wonderful work and happy to see telugu text along with other languages in the browser. Is it possible for you to bring out a stand alone editor under linux like telugu lipi for windows so that it will be easy to type in any editor and convert it to various languages. I know it amounts to a lot of work and you may have your own commitments. I also see other addons to mozilla but it would be nice to have stand alone editor. B. Raveendra Reddy Scientific Officer The Institute of Mathematical Sciences C I T Campus, Tharamani Chennai - 600 113 Ph: +91-44-254 1856 E-mail: ravindra_b at yahoo dot com From gora at sarai.net Tue Aug 5 08:30:23 2008 From: gora at sarai.net (Gora Mohanty) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:00:23 +0530 Subject: [Padma] Thanks for wonderful work In-Reply-To: <829983.39708.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <829983.39708.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080805210023.5a6fd980@mail.sarai.net> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) "Raveendra Reddy B." wrote: [...] > Is it possible for you to bring out a stand alone editor under > linux like telugu lipi for windows so that it will be easy to > type in any editor and convert it to various languages. Have you tried the free software OpenOffice on Microsoft Windows? Not really just an editor, but a complete word processor. I am not 100% sure, but think that it supports Telugu on that platform. Definitely does on Linux. Also, I am not sure of what you mean by conversion to various languages. Padma does not do that, but just code conversion. If you need a stand-alone code converter, I am not sure if anyone has built something like this on top of Padma, but this would be wonderful. For various reasons, mostly to do with simplicity, we have built a code converter around the m17n library, instead of around Padma. This is also free software, and currently is in beta testing with Hindi, and Oriya. If you wish to help out with Telugu, we would apreciate it. Speakers of other languages are also invited to help out here. Also, we do plan on eventually importing the Padma font data. Regards, Gora P.S. Nagarjuna, we had talked about this earlier, but never followed through. Can you enable Oriya in Padma, so that I can add font data for Oriya? From rakeshvar at gmail.com Tue Aug 5 20:53:07 2008 From: rakeshvar at gmail.com (Rakesh Achanta) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:23:07 +0530 Subject: [Padma] Thanks for wonderful work Message-ID: RAVINDRA GARU, You must be able to use an entire range of Unicode supporting WYSIWYG editors to type in Telugu or any other language. The problem lies with inputting Telugu text, I for one use a Telugu/Indic keyboard (without interference from English letters). For more detials you may see the group http://groups.google.com/group/telugublog Regarding Transliteration from one language to another, you can use 1) http://girgit.chitthajagat.in/ 2) http://eemaata.com/indic2indic/index.php (Based on Padma) For example you may also look here in the right pane. Regards, ???????? ???? 2008/8/6 > Send Padma mailing list submissions to > padma at mozdev.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > padma-request at mozdev.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > padma-owner at mozdev.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Padma digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thanks for wonderful work (Raveendra Reddy B.) > 2. Re: Thanks for wonderful work (Gora Mohanty) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Raveendra Reddy B." > Subject: [Padma] Thanks for wonderful work > To: padma at mozdev.org > Message-ID: <829983.39708.qm at web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear Mr. Nagarjuna, > > Thank you for your wonderful work and happy to see telugu text along with > other languages in the browser. > > Is it possible for you to bring out a stand alone editor under linux like > telugu lipi for windows so that it will be easy to type in any editor and > convert it to various languages. > > I know it amounts to a lot of work and you may have your own commitments. > > I also see other addons to mozilla but it would be nice to have stand alone > editor. > > B. Raveendra Reddy > Scientific Officer > The Institute of Mathematical Sciences > C I T Campus, Tharamani > Chennai - 600 113 > Ph: +91-44-254 1856 > E-mail: ravindra_b at yahoo dot com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:00:23 +0530 > From: Gora Mohanty > Subject: Re: [Padma] Thanks for wonderful work > To: ravindra_b at yahoo.com, padma at mozdev.org > Cc: padma at mozdev.org > Message-ID: <20080805210023.5a6fd980 at mail.sarai.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) > "Raveendra Reddy B." wrote: > [...] > > Is it possible for you to bring out a stand alone editor under > > linux like telugu lipi for windows so that it will be easy to > > type in any editor and convert it to various languages. > > Have you tried the free software OpenOffice on Microsoft Windows? > Not really just an editor, but a complete word processor. I am > not 100% sure, but think that it supports Telugu on that > platform. Definitely does on Linux. > > Also, I am not sure of what you mean by conversion to various > languages. Padma does not do that, but just code conversion. If > you need a stand-alone code converter, I am not sure if anyone > has built something like this on top of Padma, but this would be > wonderful. > > For various reasons, mostly to do with simplicity, we have built > a code converter around the m17n library, instead of around > Padma. This is also free software, and currently is in beta > testing with Hindi, and Oriya. If you wish to help out with > Telugu, we would apreciate it. Speakers of other languages are > also invited to help out here. Also, we do plan on eventually > importing the Padma font data. > > Regards, > Gora > > P.S. Nagarjuna, we had talked about this earlier, but never > followed through. Can you enable Oriya in Padma, so that I > can add font data for Oriya? > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > > > End of Padma Digest, Vol 31, Issue 1 > ************************************ > From vsrawat at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 00:30:56 2008 From: vsrawat at gmail.com (V S Rawat) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:00:56 +0530 Subject: [Padma] various converters available (online JavaScript) Message-ID: <489AA4B0.40507@gmail.com> The following page has a lot of converters available. Click on the link mentioning that converter, and it would open a window in which you can type/ copy-paste text and convert it. -- V http://groups.google.com/group/technical-hindi/files Agra font to unicode converter03.htm Applied_Sanskrit_for_Scientists_and_Engineers.htm Applied_Sanskrit_for_Scientists_Engineers.doc Chanakya to Unicode converter08.htm Chanakya-ASCII-Mapping.htm Chhanda Maatraa Ganak_03.htm Devanagari Kramak_07.htm Dictionay builder for Urdu se Hindi anuvadak 03.htm DV-YogeshEN-to-Unicode converter06.htm DVB-YogeshEN-to-Unicode converter02.htm DVBW-YogeshEN-to-Unicode converter02.htm Hindi_bhasha_ka_pratham_vyakaran.htm Hindi_English Shabdakosh_02.htm Hindi_vyakaran_ka_sankshipta_itihas.htm How_Japanese_made_science_their_own.htm HTChanakya-to-Unicode converter07.htm krutidev010-to-Unicode converter06.htm Natva_vidhan.htm pratyahar_sutra.htm Remington-AK.htm Richa-to-Unicode converter02.htm Romance_of_a_Sanskrit_Root.htm Sanskrit-English Shabdakosh_03.htm sanskrit99 to unicode converter15.htm Sanskrit_upsarg_aur_unke_arth.htm shabdavali_ki_samasyaen_aur_samadhan.htm shivaji to unicode converter05.htm Shree Lipi to Unicode Converter-13.htm Unicode to Agra font converter03.htm Unicode-to-Chanakya converter06.htm Unicode-to-DV-YogeshEN converter03.htm Unicode-to-DVB-YogeshEN converter04.htm Unicode-to-DVBW-YogeshEN converter04.htm Unicode-to-HTChanakya converter02.htm Unicode-to-krutidev010 converter05.htm Unicode-to-Richa converter02.htm Unicode-to-sanskrit99 converter07.htm UniNagari - NP Version.htm Urdu se Hindi anuvadak_01.htm Urdu to Devanagari script converter_13.htm From soham.chatterjee at gmail.com Tue Aug 26 01:29:25 2008 From: soham.chatterjee at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4Ka44KeL4Ka54KauIOCmmuCnjeCmr+CmvuCmn+CmvuCmsOCnjeCmnOCngA==?=) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:59:25 +0530 Subject: [Padma] Bengali fonts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I can't thank you enough for the brilliance of your work. This extension is a milestone towards the eventual adoption of Unicode for display of content in Indic languages without dependence on platform and in a standardized format that enables searching and archiving of news data. In the present context due to various factors like governmental policy-making apathy, the misfortune of domination by a single vendor for common computing needs that disregarded, till recently, the requirement of software in Indic languages, and the regressive attitude adopted by content-producers of vernacular languages who relied on dynamic fonts. The Padma extension already makes it possible to view the Bengali language news web-sites Anandabazar Patrika and Bartaman Patrika. The pages are rendered mostly correct except for some errors with rendering of vowels like "aa"(Bartaman), short "i"(Anandabazar), placement of "e"(Bartaman) and ou, placement of chandrabindu. I believe these can be rectified in future versions. As demonstrated by your excellent coverage of South Indian and other Indic scripts, I would also like to see such development work is extended to Bengali as well. In this context I have made a list of the the Bengali newspapers web-sites with the widest circulation/popularity and the dynamic fonts they use. I have attached a zip file that includes the font files in the respective folders named after the newspapers using them. The most popular sites and the used dynamic fonts are - For pouplar West-Bengal Bengali newspapers - 1> DATAN_.ttf - Aajkal 2> Shree550.ttf - Uttar Banga Sambad 1> prothoma.ttf and bngsalpn.ttf - Prothom Alo 2> TONNBM__.ttf - Jaijaidin, The Daily Amadershomoy, The Daily Dinkal, Manabzamin, London Bangla 3> sutom.ttf - The Daily Ittefaq, The Daily Bhorer Kagoj, The Daily Jugantor 4> Boishkhi.ttf - Daily Naya Diganta and The Daily Amader Sangram 5> samakal_.ttf - Shamokal 6> itxbeng.ttf - Parabaas 7> falgun.ttf - Vinnomot 8> alihsan.ttf - Al-Ihsan The above papers are most popular in Bangladesh It is my request that the Bengali fonts for the West-Bengal newspapers and at least the first four fonts of the most widely read Bangladeshi news-papers are made available through Padma. Looking forward to further development of this great piece of work. Best wishes, Soham Chatterjee -- ???? -- ???? From vraghavan at rogers.com Tue Aug 26 14:24:06 2008 From: vraghavan at rogers.com (Raghavan) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:24:06 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Help Message-ID: <000901c907c2$12c9e180$6501a8c0@HOME> I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to resolve? Raghavan From saravanannkl at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 19:31:53 2008 From: saravanannkl at gmail.com (Saravana) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:31:53 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Help In-Reply-To: <000901c907c2$12c9e180$6501a8c0@HOME> References: <000901c907c2$12c9e180$6501a8c0@HOME> Message-ID: Raghavan, Which url you used for downloading ? Download works from both mozdev and mozilla sites. Use any of the following sites to install padma, http://padma.mozdev.org/installation.html https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 Thanks Saravana On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Raghavan wrote: > I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to resolve? > > Raghavan > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > From vraghavan at rogers.com Thu Aug 28 04:59:53 2008 From: vraghavan at rogers.com (Raghavan) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:59:53 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Help References: <000901c907c2$12c9e180$6501a8c0@HOME> Message-ID: Saravana, I could download it from: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 but not from the other site. Now how do I install it? I am new to Linux as o/s and Firefox. I am unable to read, properly, 'Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar'. Raghavan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saravana" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Padma] Help > Raghavan, > Which url you used for downloading ? Download works from both mozdev and > mozilla sites. Use any of the following sites to install padma, > http://padma.mozdev.org/installation.html > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 > > Thanks > Saravana > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Raghavan wrote: > >> I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to >> resolve? >> >> Raghavan >> _______________________________________________ >> Padma mailing list >> Padma at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >> > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma From saravanannkl at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 05:22:39 2008 From: saravanannkl at gmail.com (Saravana) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Help In-Reply-To: References: <000901c907c2$12c9e180$6501a8c0@HOME> Message-ID: Raghavan,, Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar websites use unicode now. So you don't need padma to view these websites. I use Ubuntu and it works without doing any additional setup. Which distribution you are using ? Use the following link to setup unicode in your distribution, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Enabling_complex_text_support_for_Indic_scripts Thanks Saravanan On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Raghavan wrote: > Saravana, > > I could download it from: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 > but not from the other site. > Now how do I install it? I am new to Linux as o/s and Firefox. > I am unable to read, properly, 'Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar'. > Raghavan > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saravana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Padma] Help > > > > Raghavan, >> Which url you used for downloading ? Download works from both mozdev and >> mozilla sites. Use any of the following sites to install padma, >> http://padma.mozdev.org/installation.html >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 >> >> Thanks >> Saravana >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Raghavan wrote: >> >> I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to >>> resolve? >>> >>> Raghavan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Padma mailing list >>> Padma at mozdev.org >>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Padma mailing list >> Padma at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >> > > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > From vraghavan at rogers.com Thu Aug 28 10:49:03 2008 From: vraghavan at rogers.com (VENKATRAMAN RAGHAVAN) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Padma] Help Message-ID: <462394.15930.qm@web88105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Saravanan, I am a novice to Firefox; What is 'distribution'? I use "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11". I had set the? unicode for character encoding in the view tab and still it does not? show tamil fonts properly . Raghavan ----- Original Message ---- From: Saravana To: padma at mozdev.org Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:22:39 AM Subject: Re: [Padma] Help Raghavan,, Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar websites use unicode now. So you don't need padma to view these websites. I use Ubuntu and it works without doing any additional setup. Which distribution you are using ? Use the following link to setup unicode in your distribution, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Enabling_complex_text_support_for_Indic_scripts Thanks Saravanan On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Raghavan wrote: > Saravana, > > I could download it from: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 > but not from the other site. > Now how do I install it? I am new to Linux as o/s and Firefox. > I am unable to read, properly, 'Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar'. > Raghavan > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saravana" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Padma] Help > > > >? Raghavan, >> Which url you used for downloading ? Download works from both mozdev and >> mozilla sites. Use any of the following sites to install padma, >> http://padma.mozdev.org/installation.html >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 >> >> Thanks >> Saravana >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Raghavan wrote: >> >>? I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to >>> resolve? >>> >>> Raghavan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Padma mailing list >>> Padma at mozdev.org >>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >>> >>>? _______________________________________________ >> Padma mailing list >> Padma at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >> > > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > _______________________________________________ Padma mailing list Padma at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma From saravanannkl at gmail.com Wed Aug 27 20:18:37 2008 From: saravanannkl at gmail.com (Saravana) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:18:37 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Bengali fonts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Soham, Since Bengali is already supported in Padma, it is easy to add support for Bengali fonts by doing a mapping of characters. It would be better if someone who knows the language does the mapping. Nagarjuna has already have posted basic detail about how to add new mappings in padma. http://mozdev.org/pipermail/padma/2006-February/000049.html Also checkout existing Bengali fonts for examples http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/padma/src/content/encodings/Bengali/ You can email the group if you have any questions. Thanks Saravana On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:29 AM, ???? ?????????? wrote: > Hello, > > I can't thank you enough for the brilliance of your work. This extension is > a milestone towards the eventual adoption of Unicode for display of content > in Indic languages without dependence on platform and in a standardized > format that enables searching and archiving of news data. > > In the present context due to various factors like governmental > policy-making apathy, the misfortune of domination by a single vendor for > common computing needs that disregarded, till recently, the requirement of > software in Indic languages, and the regressive attitude adopted by > content-producers of vernacular languages who relied on dynamic fonts. > > The Padma extension already makes it possible to view the Bengali language > news web-sites Anandabazar Patrika and Bartaman Patrika. The pages are > rendered mostly correct except for some errors with rendering of vowels > like > "aa"(Bartaman), short "i"(Anandabazar), placement of "e"(Bartaman) and ou, > placement of chandrabindu. I believe these can be rectified in future > versions. > > As demonstrated by your excellent coverage of South Indian and other Indic > scripts, I would also like to see such development work is extended to > Bengali as well. In this context I have made a list of the the Bengali > newspapers web-sites with the widest circulation/popularity and the dynamic > fonts they use. > > I have attached a zip file that includes the font files in the respective > folders named after the newspapers using them. > > The most popular sites and the used dynamic fonts are - > > For pouplar West-Bengal Bengali newspapers - > 1> DATAN_.ttf - Aajkal > 2> Shree550.ttf - Uttar Banga Sambad > > 1> prothoma.ttf and bngsalpn.ttf - Prothom Alo > 2> TONNBM__.ttf - Jaijaidin, The Daily Amadershomoy, The Daily Dinkal, > Manabzamin, London Bangla > 3> sutom.ttf - The Daily Ittefaq, The Daily Bhorer Kagoj, The Daily > Jugantor > 4> Boishkhi.ttf - Daily Naya Diganta and The Daily Amader Sangram > > 5> samakal_.ttf - Shamokal > 6> itxbeng.ttf - Parabaas > 7> falgun.ttf - Vinnomot > 8> alihsan.ttf - Al-Ihsan > The above papers are most popular in Bangladesh > > It is my request that the Bengali fonts for the West-Bengal newspapers and > at least the first four fonts of the most widely read Bangladeshi > news-papers are made available through Padma. > > Looking forward to further development of this great piece of work. > > Best wishes, > > Soham Chatterjee > -- > ???? > > > > > -- > ???? > > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > > From saravanannkl at gmail.com Thu Aug 28 11:21:44 2008 From: saravanannkl at gmail.com (Saravana) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:21:44 -0400 Subject: [Padma] Help In-Reply-To: <462394.15930.qm@web88105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <462394.15930.qm@web88105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Raghavan, For unicode support, Firefox depends on OS support for unicode. What is the linux distribution you are using ? Based on the linux distribution unicode setup can be done based on the steps listed below, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Enabling_complex_text_support_for_Indic_scripts#Linux Thanks Saravana On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:49 PM, VENKATRAMAN RAGHAVAN wrote: > Saravanan, > I am a novice to Firefox; What is 'distribution'? I use "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; > U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11". > I had set the unicode for character encoding in the view tab and still it > does not show tamil fonts properly . > Raghavan > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Saravana > To: padma at mozdev.org > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:22:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Padma] Help > > Raghavan,, > Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar websites use unicode now. So you don't need > padma to view these websites. I use Ubuntu and it works without doing any > additional setup. > Which distribution you are using ? Use the > following link to setup unicode > in your distribution, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Enabling_complex_text_support_for_Indic_scripts > > Thanks > Saravanan > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Raghavan wrote: > > > Saravana, > > > > I could download it from: > > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 > > but not from the other site. > > Now how do I install it? I am new to Linux as o/s and Firefox. > > I am unable to read, properly, 'Vikatan, Kumudam and Dinamalar'. > > Raghavan > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saravana" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [Padma] Help > > > > > > > > Raghavan, > >> Which url you used for downloading ? Download works from both mozdev and > >> mozilla sites. Use any of the following sites to install padma, > >> http://padma.mozdev.org/installation.html > >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/873 > >> > >> Thanks > >> Saravana > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Raghavan > wrote: > >> > >> I tried downloading the "Padma" sw and got error msg "228". How to > >>> resolve? > >>> > >>> Raghavan > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Padma mailing list > >>> Padma at mozdev.org > >>> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> Padma mailing list > >> Padma at mozdev.org > >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Padma mailing > list > > Padma at mozdev.org > > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > > > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma > _______________________________________________ > Padma mailing list > Padma at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/padma >