http://mycroft.mozdev.org/deepdocs/installing.html#c33 okay you used to be able to download all of the plugins in a nifty compressed tar file but i cannot seem to find it any more: may i please reaquest some help finding it again, thanks so much! Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915