[Mozile] Mozile 0.6.22.7 : Caret handling, etc

[Jon Schull]

Thanks for the reply!

>
> You're correct in that there is also a minor bug. If you are  
> editing with Mozile and then disable Mozile the preference will be  
> left on. There may be other situations where this happens as well.
>
> Not sure how this relates to using the spacebar and page down.  
> You'll have to run that bit by me again.

the spacebar causes firefox to pages down ordinarily.  But mozile  
thinks I want to insert a space.  So my browser navigation is disrupted.

By the way, the snippet I just sent (regarding spans vs divs) doesn't  
even invoke mozile under version 0.7.1 ....

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On Feb 4, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Max d'Ayala wrote:

> Hello Jon, I'll try and answer your questions.
>
> 1. Caret handling
>
> Mozile does in fact use the general Firefox preference  
> "accessibility.browsewithcaret". When you click in an editable area  
> Mozile switches this preference on. If you uncheck the Mozile  
> "Always show the editing cursor (caret)" option the  
> accessibility.browsewithcaret preference is set to false when you  
> click outside the editable area. Otherwise it is always left on.  
> I'm not sure if there is any way to handle caret browsing without  
> changing this preference.
>
> It is not made clear in the Mozile docs that this standard  
> preference is used. This preference can be set from the main  
> Firefox options on the Advanced tab: "Allow text to be selected  
> with the keyboard."
>
> I guess there is a case here that some people might want to have  
> manual control over the preference, and not let Mozile change it.  
> I'll think about adding this as an option, and improving the docs  
> regarding this point, although I don't see it a high priority  
> issue. I think you should also be able to use F7 to toggle the  
> preference if you need to change it quickly. There is also the  
> added complication that Mozile switches the caret off when it  
> manipulates the DOM. If you don't do this and you have the caret  
> switched on it tends to jump about all over the place and  looks  
> very messy. So that would not be a very good side effect. If you  
> had the caret switched off permanently, you wouldn't notice any  
> flicker, but might find editing more difficult. I've never really  
> known anyone to request the caret to be switched off during editing.
>
> You're correct in that there is also a minor bug. If you are  
> editing with Mozile and then disable Mozile the preference will be  
> left on. There may be other situations where this happens as well.
>
> Not sure how this relates to using the spacebar and page down.  
> You'll have to run that bit by me again.
>

the spacebar causes firefox to pages down ordinarily.  But mozile  
thinks I want to insert a space.  So my browser navigation is disrupted.

>
> 2. Enable / Disable Mozile
>
> Good point. Until you mentioned it I hadn't really noticed the  
> disable feature available from the Extensions dialog window by  
> right clicking on the Mozile extension.
>
> What I'll probably do is make the message a bit clearer and tell  
> people to go to the Mozile>Options menu if they want to Enable  
> Mozile. I think the warning alert is a sort of temporary feature  
> anyway because I couldn't be bothered to do better control over the  
> toolbar. Ideally when disabled I would just set the visible toolbar  
> buttons to the inactive state so that you would have the normal  
> visual indication they aren't available. (Like the undo button when  
> there is nothing to undo.)
>
>
> 3. Enable/Disable shortcut
>
> I knew someone would ask for this sooner or later. I did have a  
> mouse shortcut earlier on but it looks like I've taken it out. I'll  
> think about an easy shortcut, even if it is just temporary. Ideally  
> I'd like another (thin) toolbar button that shows on/off status,  
> and maybe the caret preference at the same time, although I don't  
> have any time to do any more coding for a while.
>
> Max
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