From YohanPRC at EMl.CC Thu Sep 3 00:24:27 2009
From: YohanPRC at EMl.CC (Yu Hai)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:24:27 +0800
Subject: [Maf] MAF 0.15 released
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Hello, Paolo:
prefsDialog.dtd - zh-CN;zh-TW;zh-HK:
Some part of the strings are not unified in Firefox:
English:
&Something: AAABBBCCC
Chinese:
1 ?? (&S): AAABBBCCC
2 ???(&S) AAABBBCCC
The colon can be either before the "short key" (in Fullwidth form) or
after it (in Halfwidth form)
Also, some strings varies from the OS, for example: in Windows and
MacintoshOS.
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There're still problems in the sentense "Your Firefox is now capable of
opening and saving complete web pages in single-file [i]web
archives[/i]"
When you say "opening complete web pages in single-file", "in
single-file" is the 'attributive modifier' of "complete web pages", but
when you say "saving complete web pages in single-file", "in
single-file" is the adverbial of "saving". I don't know how to translate
such a sentense in other languages.
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Also, I changed some of the string, here're some of them. (Hope for your
opinion):
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2# archives.placestitle.header Page Title
Saved Page Title
2# archives.maftitle.header Original Page Title
Saved Page Title (duplicate, outside the HTML of the page)
1# archives.mafdatearchived.header Archived
Archived time
2# archives.maftempuri.header Temporary Page URL
Temporary Extracted Page URL
3# openintabsbutton.label Open in Tabs
Open in Tab(s)
1# deletebutton.label Forget
"Move" out (or "Delete form RAM")
3# menuitem.saveinarchive.label Save In Archive
Save XXX in Archive (I can't find it in any
menu of my firefox, there's only "Save Page in Archive" and "Save Frame
in Archive")
2# open.caption Open
Actions when Opening
2# save.caption Save
Actions when Saveing
1# menuitem.browseopenarchives.label Browse Open Archives?
Browse Loaded Archives?
2# menuitem.savetabsas.label Save Tabs As?
Select Tabs (to Save) and Save them
1# Your system has been configured as you requested, and is ready
for use. Configured your system as you requested; system is
ready for use.
1# Your Firefox is now capable of opening and saving complete web
pages in single-file web archives Your Firefox is now
capable of saving complete web pages in single-file (web archive), and
is capable of opening such files.
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I change them dueing to one of these reasons: 1. I cannot find an
equivalent Chinese translation which the reader can understand; 2.
There's no Chinese Documentation of MAF so some of them (a small
quantity) must be included; 3. the string it self is confusing.
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Still untranslated: options.description - "recommended"
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Compare with Christopher Ottley's original version: MAF does not open
the *.maff.zip files
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Does "MAFF" means "Mozilla Archive Format File"?
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At last, I want to release my first "final version" before find a
partner. :)
Grts.
Yu Hai
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From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Thu Sep 3 07:50:54 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:50:54 +0200
Subject: [Maf] MAF 0.15 released
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Hello Yu Hai,
for the questions related to the Chinese translation, I answered on the
MAF translation topic on BabelZilla, where the answers can remain as a
reference for other translators too:
http://www.babelzilla.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4868&st=20#entry51396
As for the other questions:
> Compare with Christopher Ottley's original version: MAF does not open
> the *.maff.zip files
This is by design: Firefox doesn't support double extensions when
identifying file types (MIME type from file extension), and not all
ZIP files should be opened as if they're MAFF files. I'm not even
sure the original version opened the .maff.zip files in all cases.
> Does "MAFF" means "Mozilla Archive Format File"?
Yes :-)
Regards,
Paolo
From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Thu Sep 3 08:20:18 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:20:18 +0200
Subject: [Maf] User interface feedback
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[Replying to the original message, that had the list in Bcc]
Yu Hai wrote:
> My MAF failed to save the page "about:" without any warning information
> when using "Save Complete"; it used to be failed when using
> SaveComplete, but with a warning information.
Interesting. This is the message I get in the Error Console:
"Save Complete reported the following warnings while saving
about:: Download failed for uri: about:/"
In fact, this should be a fatal error and not a warning, as it may
result in a corrupted archive. Saving "about:" URLs is not fully
supported by Save Complete, however I'll have a look into this
since this bug may appear in other cases too.
> Compare to Christopher Ottley's version, the plugin is far more stable
> (it no longer kill the firefox.exe process), but the "failed rate" when
> saving something is increasing, espc. when saving large page or more
> than one pages. It usually stop at somewhere and just waiting for me to
> cancel it. It's slower than before, too. It gave me a feeling of
> updating Windows 9x to Windows NT 4.0 (or Windows 2000) - no bluescreen,
> but slow.
Do you experience problems always with the same pages, consistently?
If so, it may be useful if you post the addresses of these pages, in
order to investigate what's causing the failure.
The original version of MAF didn't have Save Complete, so it's quite
possible that it succeeded in saving the same pages just because some
content wasn't downloaded at all. The latest version with the browser's
standard save system should perform similarly.
Regards,
Paolo
From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Tue Sep 8 05:40:15 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:40:15 +0200
Subject: [Maf] [ANN] MAF 0.15.1 released
Message-ID: <4AA650AF.5090301@amadzone.org>
Hello,
Mozilla Archive Format version 0.15.1 is now officially available
for download at .
Changes from 0.15.0 to 0.15.1
* Change: Audio and video files in OGG containers are not
re-compressed when archived, in order to provide faster access
when opening the media files directly from the archive.
* Change: If the "jar:" protocol is used to access the contents of
MAFF archives, the archived files are not extracted to the
temporary directory anymore, thus obtaining a significant speed
gain.
* Change: The integrated Save Complete component now saves pages as
they appear, without fetching them again from the server, in all
the cases where it is possible.
* Fix: The Open in Tabs buttons in the Archives dialog could be
enabled even if there were no addresses to open.
Regards,
Paolo Amadini
From jatin_3007 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 14 03:59:53 2009
From: jatin_3007 at yahoo.com (Jatin Dhimmar)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:59:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Maf] Problem Saving Local Web Pages
Message-ID: <96667.37019.qm@web111307.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Saving local Web Pages to MHT archive using Mozilla Archive Format does not display the images when viewed in Internet Explorer v8.
When Internet Explorer is used to save the page to MHT format, the images were visible.
Is Mozilla Archive Format is compatible with AdBlock Plus?
Regards,
Jatin
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From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Mon Sep 14 08:54:01 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:54:01 +0200
Subject: [Maf] Problem Saving Local Web Pages
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Jatin Dhimmar wrote:
> Saving local Web Pages to MHT archive using Mozilla Archive Format does
> not display the images when viewed in Internet Explorer v8.
> When Internet Explorer is used to save the page to MHT format, the
> images were visible.
Hello Jatin,
thanks for reporting the problem. In order to understand what is
causing it, I need some more information. In addition to the versions
of Firefox and MAF that you are using, if you could provide a link
to a web page that gives the problem when you save it, it would be
very useful. If the problem occurs with common pages like the Google
home page, attaching an MHT file of that page saved from your system
would be even better.
> Is Mozilla Archive Format is compatible with AdBlock Plus?
As far as I can tell, AdBlock Plus and MAF are compatible, even though
I received reports of problems occurring when ABP was installed and
the integrated "Save Complete" component was enabled from the
MAF preferences. Is this question related to the problem above?
Regards,
Paolo
From dparker345 at gmail.com Thu Sep 17 21:42:23 2009
From: dparker345 at gmail.com (D Parker)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:42:23 +0200
Subject: [Maf] Maf interface - sidebar option?
Message-ID: <4AB30FAF.6060204@gmail.com>
Maf, in its restored version, is extremely good. Much appreciation, Mr.
Amadini.
I had converted from the old Maf format to Scrapbook a couple of years
ago, finally, when the work on Maf stopped. But now with the new Maf my
archives are now nearly all reconverted, one webpage per Maf file. This
lets them be managed from outside of the program, searched for from a
file manager, etc. The savings in numbers of files from Scrapbook, hence
for backups etc, is immense, as is the gain in transparency. But one of
the simplest and most useful features of Scrapbook is the ability to
list all the files in a given collection from the left sidebar, as a
directory, and display them one by one when you click down, essentially
a 'view files' function. It would be superb if this could be done with a
set of Maf files, collected within a directory/folder. As it is, it
appears that Maf files still need to be dragged over or opened, one by
one. Has there been any thought to, essentially, developing a sidebar
interface like Scrapbook's?
(I have not explored putting multiple pages into a single Maf archive,
mostly to avoid the risk of losing the entire collection if one page has
a problem and corrupts the archive; archiving page by page seems much
more prudent.)
Thanks.
From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Fri Sep 18 15:22:19 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:22:19 +0200
Subject: [Maf] Maf interface - sidebar option?
In-Reply-To: <4AB30FAF.6060204@gmail.com>
References: <4AB30FAF.6060204@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB4081B.8040607@amadzone.org>
D Parker wrote:
> Maf, in its restored version, is extremely good. Much appreciation, Mr.
> Amadini.
>
> I had converted from the old Maf format to Scrapbook a couple of years
> ago, finally, when the work on Maf stopped. But now with the new Maf my
> archives are now nearly all reconverted, one webpage per Maf file. This
> lets them be managed from outside of the program, searched for from a
> file manager, etc. The savings in numbers of files from Scrapbook, hence
> for backups etc, is immense, as is the gain in transparency. But one of
> the simplest and most useful features of Scrapbook is the ability to
> list all the files in a given collection from the left sidebar, as a
> directory, and display them one by one when you click down, essentially
> a 'view files' function. It would be superb if this could be done with a
> set of Maf files, collected within a directory/folder. As it is, it
> appears that Maf files still need to be dragged over or opened, one by
> one. Has there been any thought to, essentially, developing a sidebar
> interface like Scrapbook's?
Since the beginning, the MAF extension has been thought for people that
needed to save pages in single files, that later could be moved around
safely using the operating system's file manager, maybe together with
other files. For example, I often save MAFF archives of help pages or
forum posts related to a program near the program's installer.
When I took over the MAF project, a view of all open archives already
existed, and making it persistent across sessions and available from
the sidebar seemed the logical evolution. Then I discovered that
ScrapBook did the same thing; I also realized that it was a slightly
different use case from the one covered by Mozilla Archive Format.
Both add-ons can be useful for different purposes, but it doesn't make
much sense to write a new ScrapBook inside MAF. What I think more
probable, as an evolution, is that Mozilla Archive Format will become
an optional back-end for ScrapBook, providing efficient storage
(a 100KB ZIP file takes up much less space than a hundred 1KB files)
and all the other advantages you pointed out.
I hope this answers your question. Thanks for your feedback!
Regards,
Paolo
From daryl.g.daniels at gmail.com Tue Sep 29 15:55:37 2009
From: daryl.g.daniels at gmail.com (Daryl Daniels)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:55:37 -0500
Subject: [Maf] MAF won't install
Message-ID:
Is there any reason why this add-on will download, but not appear as an
installed add-on after Firefox restarts?
I would very much like to use this app because I don't like having to keep
up with multiple files in folders when saving pages (one thing about IE I
really do like)
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From paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org Wed Sep 30 05:42:28 2009
From: paolo.01.prg at amadzone.org (Paolo Amadini)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:42:28 +0200
Subject: [Maf] MAF won't install
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Daryl Daniels wrote:
> Is there any reason why this add-on will download, but not appear as an
> installed add-on after Firefox restarts?
No, this problem hasn't been reported before. MAF is a standard XPI
package and should install in the same way as all other extensions.
What are exactly the steps that you followed to download and install
MAF? Knowing which links and buttons you clicked and which dialogs
were shown may help in understanding if something went wrong. The
exact version of Firefox you're using and the operating system are
also useful pieces of information.
Sometimes these problems are caused by other installed extensions; you
may try to disable some or all of them before installing MAF, and see
if the problem persists.
Regards,
Paolo