[LibX] RE: LibX vs. Conduit

Michael Price mprice at calpoly.edu
Thu Sep 21 14:56:54 EDT 2006


I confess I am still in investigatory phase looking at these tools, so I cannot yet address the functionality/convenience/cross-platform capability issues that I understand are much of the issue....  

But I'm still having trouble getting around potential violation of patron's privacy. My thought is does the library-endorsed Conduit toolbar deserve a disclaimer somehow?  Does it really meet the standards that we have for protecting patron's confidentiality?  Among many gray areas of online privacy, this feels a bit grayer to me..... 

Michael Price
Cal Poly SLO
mprice at calpoly.edu 


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From: libx-bounces at mozdev.org [mailto:libx-bounces at mozdev.org] On Behalf Of Drew, Bill
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:25 AM
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Subject: [LibX] RE: LibX vs. Conduit

I understand that completely.  Unfortunately, LibX does not have an IE version and it also does not have all of the other features possible through Conduit.  I wish it did.  I would drop Conduit right away.  I have complete control in Conduit over the pull down menus I create using XML.  My changes show up in the toolbars within 15 minutes.  LibX is also too OPAC centric.  Our students and faculty like the search box in Conduit where they can change the search engine or database being searched.  The OPAC search in LibX is actually much more powerful than it needs to be for most users.  The toolbar should just use a simple keyword search.  LibX target audience is power users not the general population.  We want to reach the general user.

Please do not take me wrong in this discussion.  LibX is a great tool and should continue to be developed.  I think it needs to broaden its intended audience to include IE users and non-power users.

Bill Drew
drewwe at morrisville.edu

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Some information about Conduit:

Every click or search is logged.
See http://www.digg.com/software/Firefox_Digg_Toolbar#c3130228

Our test version of LibX does NOT send usage back to any server other than the one it is targeted to.

Dave :+)



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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:11:36 -0400
From: "LibX Project" <libx.org at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LibX] Adding a second OPAC & other questions
To: "Drew, Bill" <drewwe at morrisville.edu>
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On 9/8/06, Drew, Bill <drewwe at morrisville.edu> wrote:
>
> I am currently experimenting in a big way with another toolbar
(Conduit)
> that allows me to have a menu based on an XML file hosted on my
webserver.
> I have had over 100 people download it since I made it public a few
weeks
> ago.  Unfortunately that has not been the case with our Libx toolbar.
Part
> of the reason is that our campus is a Microsoft shop and I can't
change
> that.  The Conduit toolbar is available for both Firefox and IE.  I
would
> much prefer to use Libx if it had more of the capabilities of the
Conduit
> toolbars.

What capabilities does Conduit have that LibX lacks, aside from support for IE?
We discuss other toolbars here: http://libx.org/faq.html#QG1a - for instance, we will not "Cookie Cleaners" and similar nonsense.

>
> My questions:
>
> 1. Can a second OPAC be added to the Libx toolbar?  SUNY now has an
ALEPH
> based union catalog.

You can add as many catalogs as you like. See other config files for examples.

> 2. Is it possible to have nested menus in Libx?

You mean on the left?
Not currently, but we could add that if people requested it.

> 3. Will Libx ever be set up to access an XML file I host locally and
can
> change without sending a new config file to you?

We are working on a edition maker interface, similar to what Conduit is providing. However, the config file would probably still hosted on libx.org - you'd be using the edition maker interface to maintain it and build new editions. I don't see any advantage in requiring you to host an XML file.

Already, because LibX is freely available, you can build your own editions and host them, like for instance Dartmouth and some other libraries do.

> 4. Will there ever be an IE version?

We are welcoming anybody's contribution. If we will have the resources to develop one ourselves, depends on funding, among other issues.
Stay tuned.

 - Godmar

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