From wolf at bluehands.de Mon Sep 6 14:06:49 2004 From: wolf at bluehands.de (Heiner Wolf) Date: Mon Sep 6 07:24:35 2004 Subject: [Jabberzilla] Jabber Virtual Presence Message-ID: <11D121AB355B69448D3A9F2132D2A3AA420110@niobe.BlueHands.de> Hi, I am member of the jabber Virtual Presence Project. The project implements virtual presence client based on Jabber (called LLuna). This jabber client has no buddy list. Its main purpose is to let people meet each other on web pages. Basically it is a Jabber groupchat client with a fancy user interface. Users ar shown as figures standing on the lower border of the browser window. The client is for Win32. Works with IE, Mozilla, etc, but only on Win32. Here comes the point: In our forum there was a question if we could build the same with Mozilla for non-Win32. The idea is to use the Jabberzilla code base to join/leave Jabber chat rooms while browsing the Web and show other people in the same room /on/ the page as avatar figures. When LLuna was on Slashdot we got many similar requests to make LLuna work on Linux, but at that time I had no idea how to move the code to Linux, because there are many Win32 specific parts including the communication between LLuna and the browser and the display of avatars above the browser window. With this post in the forum I just learned about Jabberzilla. I see a great change to make Virtual Presence available to Linux users. Maybe even for Win users it would be nice to have Virtual Presence built into the browser, so Mozilla would be first choice. If you need more info, then please see the project web site. Web site: http://developer.lluna.de The forum topic: http://www.lluna.de/?/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15 There is some theory behind the mapping between Web-URLs and Jabber-room-JIDs. There is an extensive JEP proposal which addresses many issues including user privacy, distribution of the service, flexibility, load distribution, etc. (see http://www.lluna.de/docs/jeps/vp/jep-vpprotocol.html). hw -- Dr. Klaus H. Wolf bluehands GmbH & Co.mmunication KG http://www.bluehands.de/people/hw +49 (0721) 16108 75 -- Jabber enabled Virtual Presence on the Web: http://www.lluna.de/ Open Source Future History: http://www.galactic-developments.com/ From bernard at xiq.nl Sun Sep 5 23:28:30 2004 From: bernard at xiq.nl (bernard@xiq.nl) Date: Thu Sep 9 12:59:19 2004 Subject: [Jabberzilla] seperate but equal In-Reply-To: <412BEF1C.6070701@betterbilling.net> References: <412BEF1C.6070701@betterbilling.net> Message-ID: <1094416110.413b76eebc7d0@webmail.xiq.nl> Hello, again an reaction (might be a bit late?) Quoting Carl Tanner : > Hi everyone! > > This is a general poll. I have been wondering about a few things > lately, and I would like your feedback. > > 1. Do you have a JID? Yes (but none of my friends do) > 2. Have you ever visited the jabberzilla room ( > jabberzilla@conference.jabber.org ), and if so what nickname did you use? No > 3. In what form or forms would JabberZilla be the most useful for you? > (a) as a tbird extension > (b) as a firefox extension > (c) as a stand-alone application (like firefox or tbird) > (d) a combination of one of the above I think the best option is D, but I think C is the most importaint (since it might get people faster to switch to Jabber...) At least it needs his own desktop-icon... > > Your feedback will help mold JabberZilla's future. I look forward to > hearing from you. > _______________________________________________ > Jabberzilla mailing list > Jabberzilla@mozdev.org > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/jabberzilla > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From mozilla at jedbrown.net Fri Sep 10 12:44:50 2004 From: mozilla at jedbrown.net (Jed) Date: Fri Sep 10 13:02:52 2004 Subject: [Jabberzilla] Re: Jabberzilla Digest, Vol 10, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: <200409101600.i8AG0ORH015132@localhost.mozdev.org> References: <200409101600.i8AG0ORH015132@localhost.mozdev.org> Message-ID: <4141DA02.6060405@jedbrown.net> jabberzilla-request@mozdev.org wrote: >Send Jabberzilla mailing list submissions to > jabberzilla@mozdev.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/jabberzilla >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jabberzilla-request@mozdev.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > jabberzilla-owner@mozdev.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Jabberzilla digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: seperate but equal (bernard@xiq.nl) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:28:30 +0200 >From: bernard@xiq.nl >Subject: Re: [Jabberzilla] seperate but equal >To: jabberzilla@mozdev.org >Message-ID: <1094416110.413b76eebc7d0@webmail.xiq.nl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Hello, again an reaction (might be a bit late?) > >Quoting Carl Tanner : > > > >> <>Hi everyone! >> >> This is a general poll. I have been wondering about a few things >> lately, and I would like your feedback. >> >> 1. Do you have a JID? > No, used too, but forgot it. >> <> > >>2. Have you ever visited the jabberzilla room ( >>jabberzilla@conference.jabber.org ), and if so what nickname did you use? >> >> No >> <>3. In what form or forms would JabberZilla be the most useful for you? >> (a) as a tbird extension >> (b) as a firefox extension >> (c) as a stand-alone application (like firefox or tbird) >> (d) a combination of one of the above > d) As a thunderbird and Firefox extension. In order of importance 1) Firefox ex. 2) TB ex, and 3) Stand Alone. I don't see the importance of a stand-alone mozilla based jabber as it is 1) redundent as many well made jabber clients exist for many platforms already 2) The size would be afully large for just a jabber client (5-7megs base + jabber overhead, just guessing) 3) The innovative and attractive part of Jabberzilla would be intergration into your browser experience and/or mail on multiple platforms. >>Your feedback will help mold JabberZilla's future. I look forward to >>hearing from you. >>_______________________________________________ >>Jabberzilla mailing list >>Jabberzilla@mozdev.org >>http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/jabberzilla >> >> Hope I too wasn't too late. -Jed http://jedbrown.net/mozilla/extensions/