From faramir.cl at gmail.com Thu May 1 20:22:42 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 23:22:42 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html Message-ID: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello! ~ I have been using enigmail in Thunderbird (windows version) for a while, and, after reading the quick start guide, I know I must use plain text to avoid breaking my signature. However, I have recived emails with emoticons (those funny faces), and the signatures in these emails were valid... so, I suppose there is a way to sign emails made in html, instead of plain text... but I dont have any idea how to do that... any hint you can give me? ~ Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGokBAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOEuoIAIjJvoMPfqhe1FSlReMRp+vB w0smhDDkB3bwlzIzxJyxbx5v+plG6JPTxVsz5MQLZiIHdtbNzxCWbW3CoYqtIpbZ 2d8oCAhUu3xZryeFzJk6htydPeWiD04sgltoiNuVIUkpJkSJw69pJvjRcKjOczd7 Imgw+gqD2V1MDmtFiO6h8CX7lOeKmrEEbFKC/1tt8PpDFaRib8gW0EmXKvoI3BMP Nff+PFWY5ZEtqgUrIWrrge/w4KPEPqF04dkQDYG3VIY/pshDZquXlrMQCsfIrUYH Vov1GoY5E8oWZXtcOB/bfVssro9IsFMnl3HsI0EovYZv3TKdcWQuC7hfPQMX5AY= =2QEf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Thu May 1 20:28:08 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 23:28:08 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html In-Reply-To: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> References: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481A8A48.4010209@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Faramir wrote: > Hello! > ~ I have been using enigmail in Thunderbird (windows version) > for a while, and, after reading the quick start guide, I know I must use > plain text to avoid breaking my signature. However, I have recived > emails with emoticons (those funny faces), and the signatures in these > emails were valid... so, I suppose there is a way to sign emails made in > html, instead of plain text... but I dont have any idea how to do > that... any hint you can give me? These Smilies/Emoticons were *not* inserted using HTML but rather by typing the character symbols for them. In the Compose Screen the keyboard characters are displayed but in the recipient's Open Message screen, if Display > Message Body as > Original HTML [or Simple HTML] is Set the the actual Smiley will will be displayed. Bear in mind that Thunderbird only supports 11 or 12 Native Smilies. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Thursday 01 May 2008, 23:27 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIGopFAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPfrUH/398qdmVsV7uezxdpDR/UOXu ler1A9F3VuZvaKYrIERd7m8vi55TvjcGVUCkmYMuCMARfirJd32eANu13CNjziax PJnWrz/kNNXe7HQctrx5W5hAllIASfJ6zZaOF7je2d4wyYMOmqykfpG2XGseh659 xuSU5GIjgUGv6cl8xSDrSnxXdvWjDYtAevGNGZkS1SXQKm5kUsPZHG2ZB3Tx25dp 6zDE7rYOYlhhcyme3SXxezPNMoaOvPQRsXFmyTugMSrIkGj+5TsD1gxHGmFIqyNC 6FkM/5gErg0qHTv6zbQB2iZQhytfrhazZjGe+xJ56Wvad0CFVYKEMDT55qcVVCA= =qjPY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Thu May 1 21:09:11 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 00:09:11 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html In-Reply-To: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> References: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481A93E7.1060806@mac.com> Faramir wrote the following on 5/1/08 11:22 PM: > Hello! > ~ I have been using enigmail in Thunderbird (windows version) > for a while, and, after reading the quick start guide, I know I must use > plain text to avoid breaking my signature. However, I have recived > emails with emoticons (those funny faces), and the signatures in these > emails were valid... so, I suppose there is a way to sign emails made in > html, instead of plain text... but I dont have any idea how to do > that... any hint you can give me? > > ~ Thanks Hi, Your signature does not verify: 1. Thunderbird+Enigmail gpg: Signature made Thu May 1 23:22:41 2008 EDT using RSA key ID 4319410E gpg: BAD signature from "Faramir " 2. Apple's Mail+GPGMail.bundle Bad signature from Faramir ! 3. Eudora+Chang's AppleScripts -----BEGIN GPG OUTPUT----- gpg: Signature made Thu May 1 23:22:41 2008 EDT using RSA key ID 4319410E gpg: BAD signature from "Faramir " -----END GPG OUTPUT----- Your quoted message's raw source shows: Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit You might want to check word wrapping, 72 is usually the default. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.95.6 From faramir.cl at gmail.com Thu May 1 21:09:48 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 00:09:48 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html In-Reply-To: <481A8A48.4010209@bellsouth.net> References: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> <481A8A48.4010209@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <481A940C.6080505@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John W. Moore III escribi?: | Faramir wrote: | > Hello! | > ~ I have been using enigmail in Thunderbird (windows version) | > for a while, and, after reading the quick start guide, I know I must use | > plain text to avoid breaking my signature. However, I have recived | > emails with emoticons (those funny faces), and the signatures in these | > emails were valid... so, I suppose there is a way to sign emails made in | > html, instead of plain text... but I dont have any idea how to do | > that... any hint you can give me? | | These Smilies/Emoticons were *not* inserted using HTML but rather by | typing the character symbols for them. In the Compose Screen the | keyboard characters are displayed but in the recipient's Open Message | screen, if Display > Message Body as > Original HTML [or Simple HTML] is | Set the the actual Smiley will will be displayed. | | Bear in mind that Thunderbird only supports 11 or 12 Native Smilies. | | JOHN ;) | Timestamp: Thursday 01 May 2008, 23:27 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) ~ Thanks, I just asumed if I saw some format, there was html involved... but now I see I was wrong. I will have to learn more about how to "fake" format using plain text... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGpQMAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOmLcH/iAhY82KBgGzdiyIPZ4A6Dis yoTbT3wylVc/q/WDbsONyzLR2ienPb5/1nMVxkbSqh3DvPIF8Y+4Cson0DwAdpM7 HpDFNoBZTyjAgEeg9c2rMHQzg0/RdVcwiDDiR49B1BrLNwFMgy8kHiShdaDKziDq 9gc+nKUfb35G9YZuSqMMmBUgk2l/Ow/7vzDJbQgY78F6BmPVyYYrDGNqjR6HBdHu 9qbZ/CflRVAkx8EdL4JnqBuAloRFInU2XEFdHgtT6jBj4/uHGynK7HHcF+CnxQKC hNkNeIw/tdZPPVGOd0nzqoXPFmkE2duQIFhBXCkp48G+Vby1LMwub6Zo45pno8o= =FG02 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Thu May 1 21:13:59 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 00:13:59 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html In-Reply-To: <481A940C.6080505@gmail.com> References: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> <481A8A48.4010209@bellsouth.net> <481A940C.6080505@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481A9507.4060500@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Faramir wrote: > ~ Thanks, I just asumed if I saw some format, there was html > involved... but now I see I was wrong. I will have to learn more about > how to "fake" format using plain text... Under T-Bird 'Options' Open the 'Display' Tab and make sure the box is checked that says: "Display Emoticons as Graphics." JOHN ;) Timestamp: Friday 02 May 2008, 00:13 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIGpUGAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPojgIAJXrjl1CynWH+O0hgEvNaOR2 fsbYSt7qY2spH9PH52OSH/GcFLYZ7VS+/Q35hB8aFxxZ/3+64pG6W4DsNfQXwW1V Xr6146axm+WPcCGe8rjHs1LlwH4r8HneGkl1x6AA0G4Bl/B63a6TipSpZ7B5rLy/ 1y64DJ1ekhXIRhRDNdotvZjruE07IAQ34gF8bihRzBL0W8jdRRHqYNf6e5nZZu6R OKkRce4Px2si8OuMWR60qR/YDi78sIEG5crNyfvoC5csCu217rCeUQNq1eEasPvo a9qzuibAhuZHyi3giEMdkxLb2VV4C7eKqrHz2vN/2v9Sv3tpAsAsrrv/VqUYNMw= =aCml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Fri May 2 01:29:24 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:29:24 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! Message-ID: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I have just posted a msg to this list ~ http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2008-May/033328.html and when I have received my own email, my signature doesn't verify! :-( Could you help me to see what I'm doing wrong? I'm sending with Enigmail and this is what I'm getting in the console - ----------------------------------------------------------- enigmail> gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch --no - -tty --status-fd 2 -d gpg: Signature made 05/02/08 09:14:52 using RSA key ID 80C7D647 gpg: BAD signature from "Ramon Loureiro " enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution - ------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks again! ___ ramon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGtDiAAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHCTgH/1XMI0OboTcXD1/SAhNbG3Um NfvOyRczSpUdgK583toByEM1zwtkPa/mKrOzUpMYoTPlfdrPrtZ8xrzZlDzFg0an gZCwBcpz+DfBCO8+RrhDI9fRr/3EFzxILJWG5DUWPUNKXgzVpTVBTHlwG2tPz6zd ZyEoWmp5e1wj+MDZBTsjetCh6dEUhVjejycGpQ1ngPhwTjK2WYkvzwXaqqAFA1Yb tsWIgS3PHWWfhf/BPd2SLMmdgLImz6VAGt76AJ4nr0Fla4M4qgVa/HPg4RIz1krV 4Bu9iajywGBsUHW7oI4bDwvJyNdov0MlTyencx2q2IgE8lDD0ddp73nagcf/aro= =tTZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Fri May 2 01:49:25 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:49:25 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481AD595.5020803@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ramon Loureiro wrote: > Hi! > I have just posted a msg to this list > ~ http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2008-May/033328.html > and when I have received my own email, my signature doesn't verify! :-( > Could you help me to see what I'm doing wrong? > > I'm sending with Enigmail and this is what I'm getting in the console The message you have sent here verifies fine. Can you verify the message in question in you sent items? If so, then the message was altered by a mail transfer program; in this case there is nothing anyone could do about. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSBrVlHcOpHodsOiwAQJKgwgAohZnaK3TBsyXbDhi/s0ghTjPAGyqy8rA IPcuhABotwpqrWV5hnUzCYQd+v9+K0hTLld/fj9WwA5tA8VTjQhbQMssqYcstIcG ASAzZrYM3tm3ZrbaBnJckdkZJHYsJk//y2f+6zrsr72y+/xpSuzH46i7yLRemD0E 2F4FVO+W1vh9ZYcv8dZgN2tT7IeWLzngfwsD/S8jFS0XJNa2EPUbYKZrefiN9Ybo djoEh/ks1CRXfG47Ko79ovwValShU687wKScfOPudfotTB4TDtDwE4XOxkjQGB8E D3AJQBZJiwdfoPAV7mJQ9CD+dMmTiSXVeoRu1eEJYRFuo6po4u6lvQ== =lBn8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Fri May 2 01:52:01 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?UTF-8?B?THVkd2lnIEjDvGdlbHNjaMOkZmVy?=) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:52:01 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> On 02.05.2008 10:29, Ramon Loureiro wrote: > Hi! > I have just posted a msg to this list > ~ http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2008-May/033328.html > and when I have received my own email, my signature doesn't verify! :-( > Could you help me to see what I'm doing wrong? Please disable Format="flowed". See FAQ #8 http://enigmail.mozdev.org/support/troubles.php Ludwig From sandman at mrsandman.net Fri May 2 02:14:11 2008 From: sandman at mrsandman.net (sandman) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 04:14:11 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello=Test Message-ID: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, newbie here testing PGP. Thanks -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkga22MACgkQMtOKmHwsrk2HywCfQdxGGo3NvCrawqJ88+puXDJS O60AnRQ/sbzDAl9rGiZtGD2nZ8+FeFJG =YuYk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Fri May 2 02:14:33 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:14:33 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <481ADB79.6040805@upf.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ludwig H?gelsch?fer escribi?: > On 02.05.2008 10:29, Ramon Loureiro wrote: >> Hi! >> I have just posted a msg to this list >> ~ http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2008-May/033328.html >> and when I have received my own email, my signature doesn't verify! :-( >> Could you help me to see what I'm doing wrong? > > Please disable Format="flowed". See FAQ #8 > http://enigmail.mozdev.org/support/troubles.php Great! Solved! THANKS! ___ ramon loureiro -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGttxAAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHUXMH/ijZ0P5pMtp0jP1ZU5XjxxAG nV5Q/pD0J/cFnShqT1HzvYBv5w1Z0h/zQlBm7+6ogMGiOvk8UlIQBT209cuj/O6z qfBSyYUjEFPYisll6khUi4NI7Pn1ndgtMrmXesjDTzimBeQ5i2jcW2CblLHp1RMW eMS5V/QfpK2NZl2jWCu0vvd5fp74fo9WyeXCE1O4mjb3nXXrwjbQyKeK4a6/ScXA 8/0leKaxSNdWg1mMheG7YJKujO94zNxhvN72Zgvf9y5iUBAocEnjAkeLEMJSyF0B T2EHnGT8oVyQiX3Tb4EjhL9Fjx5spqFaQOQbZ8C7x+jPKv5BvfKUNbP0s0pmQrw= =6NZe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Primary key fingerprint: D6B7 323C 9579 A5CD 36BD 0E4F 32D3 8A98 7C2C AE4D Welcome! ___ ramon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGtyKAAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHeMoH/0IlgFj9DgZV+FhO6Bk2Aa42 id9Pc2T1Kzazzm8McFt6QmJct0KvYZf92U9cpSPYDGHgDW5Gg036IjGyRD1YQcNY mA+vmK8Dpf0689PnWGKj3C9ukPT9fFSBnScjv9EewHCLZ4eELs6wD6eCepfznbPD +qS9kDZG1vUrpM5gI2ViFsrC2X716mxwi+1TKKGXQhMfTIUEXKfa9julhEMdF4/Q 2887RywbD7PS2BwWmMxAX+G/WGdl8Bvxz1McZfWZ6UpCztPJm56cO9G0rcLXY2+R bxZLGQlmX8HFfv6l3uvbSkJ3liLZ0HsrUhDeVfJuNAK2JxIFYM1iePHZEIa6i+Q= =NLgC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's the neverending story! it does not verify once again... - ------------------------------------------------------------- enigmail> gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch --no - -tty --status-fd 2 -d gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This has happened when replying to someone's msg... :-? ...I'm going to crypto-cry... ____ ramon Ramon Loureiro escribi?: > Ludwig H?gelsch?fer escribi?: > > On 02.05.2008 10:29, Ramon Loureiro wrote: > >> Hi! > >> I have just posted a msg to this list > >> ~ http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2008-May/033328.html > >> and when I have received my own email, my signature doesn't verify! :-( > >> Could you help me to see what I'm doing wrong? > > Please disable Format="flowed". See FAQ #8 > > http://enigmail.mozdev.org/support/troubles.php > Great! Solved! THANKS! > > ___ > ramon loureiro -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIGt9UAAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHUXEH/R+Ula28Haxl0xZctQpeeKDc knyfclQTaL7ssZqhFQDW6QjnoQ0HnHFPr5DjYcpWCJ9LyJzKbebR4CeA6BPGcLnZ V5aAr8vRB3mfnbZACm4Q3ExumHvdzTvPhjlLybZkJDfuOeZz4Gx0s6wHQDGJKQvN 0JX1xHKsgafyPp5SDJG5iiaxG50tvHBTQHsnZBVS1NEd54vNcCH4q9swAUrxp4fD ldoWaQ3wThWQfNoS+hbcyVBUKKZtz4mdVkfdI90MGgPv3xewbrKEhyE+ETfUZonX jA81R0nuaFXJdM+MHVt3g1WDxeqHrgjiYau9qIMU6xGSdGPxdu+cUxjDBTA5x80= =yiV6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 2864 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080502/092f1df8/attachment.bin From alaric at metrocast.net Fri May 2 03:46:35 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 06:46:35 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] gpg signatures and html In-Reply-To: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> References: <481A8902.4030304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481AF10B.70307@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Faramir wrote: | Hello! | ~ I have been using enigmail in Thunderbird (windows version) | for a while, and, after reading the quick start guide, I know I must use | plain text to avoid breaking my signature. However, I have recived | emails with emoticons (those funny faces), and the signatures in these | emails were valid... so, I suppose there is a way to sign emails made in | html, instead of plain text... but I dont have any idea how to do | that... any hint you can give me? | | ~ Thanks Those emoticons are not encoded in HTML. They're ASCII representations as old as the 'Net, which are recognized as emoticons by Thunderbird and, if you have not turned off the enabled-by-default option to do so, rendered onscreen by Thunderbird as graphic emoticons when you read the message. If you go look through your Thunderbird mail folder and find the actual message, you'll see the raw characters there. This is completely orthogonal to whether the message was composed in HTML or not, and if enabled, it will work regardless of whether or not the message was composed in HTML or whether you elect to have Thunderbird render HTML. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIGvEK0DfOju+hMkkRCP8QAKCXXEcGipQkwz0UnRO0P7r9lOQh2wCfbVpk u957D5LiRZYxNvuSdtoaElQ= =PEhW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alans_sec at consultalans.com Fri May 2 05:00:29 2008 From: alans_sec at consultalans.com (Alan L. Schwartz) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 08:00:29 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello=Test In-Reply-To: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> References: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> Message-ID: <481B025D.3090001@consultalans.com> sandman wrote: > Hello, newbie here testing PGP. > > Thanks _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail Looks good to me. -- Alan L. Schwartz, Business Automation and Network Systems Consultant Cell/Pager: (716)725-5152 e-Mail: alans at consultalans.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0xC47C81E3.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 1712 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080502/8e384907/attachment.bin From faramir.cl at gmail.com Fri May 2 14:22:34 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 17:22:34 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello=Test In-Reply-To: <481ADC8E.7080308@upf.edu> References: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> <481ADC8E.7080308@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481B861A.5040102@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Now I got this from Ramon's message: gpg l?nea de comandos y salida:,C:\\Archivos de programa\\GNU\\GnuPG\\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d,gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n,gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n (sorry for the part in spanish, however, the important part is in english) I am following hints for Ramon Loureiro, since my signatures use to break too... and it seems things are improving, thanks > Ramon Loureiro escribi?: > sandman escribi?: > > Hello, newbie here testing PGP. > > > Thanks > Hi ! > > Everything is fine! > > gpg: Signature made 05/02/08 11:14:11 using DSA key ID 7C2CAE4D > gpg: Good signature from "sandman " > gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! > gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the > owner. > Primary key fingerprint: D6B7 323C 9579 A5CD 36BD 0E4F 32D3 8A98 7C2C AE4D > > > Welcome! > > ___ > ramon - ------------------------- _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIG4YYAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOV1oIAIiPn9+zhvEdq8Xrd4gZHYxY DpMsv9KvdmjfU1MWHJVBgtUojVH2F6xIS5mMjKBJYpBUMIdHQDYmW1SYLUgRG1es FHLdSiJxi9pENXPi5URID/4yeXoAlFm7QrwqVqY8QMCttGio1WyNFPaXouWHZxj/ W9F5jeXM6l5VqmLL8w2PSdfttYR87HN3rYvjCTTgIYs26Pqz8SCJNV1vAp6/Xu3T C3iCTiRXmODGTtjY8F+YLuWDkPVzhxLDNVFVKewwOF0RcYr9zHek2j682VeooPL7 JDLS2ixWCIC/h/AgHocC/XfJ1ikSCpe6rVcy0xdSaO8mkehInJjrATUIYFJwu+A= =lN/a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Fri May 2 19:32:14 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 22:32:14 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Problems with some special characters Message-ID: <481BCEAE.5050500@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello! A couple of days ago, I notticed my signed messages were having problems (broken signatures), so I joined this list to ask for help. I saw another list member having the same problem, so I just followed the hints he got, and my problem has improved a lot. However, I tested some special characters (like this one: ?), and the signature broke again. But if I reply to a message with those characters doesn't cause problems, so I figure maybe it has something to do with some character conversion... My Thunderbird uses Occidental ISO-8859-1) character set as default, and I am thinking maybe changing that to utf-8 could solve the problem, but I am not sure about that, so I'd like to know what do you think about this idea. By the way, since probably this problem is not due GnuPG, I didn't want to bother people in that list... but I see most people I have seen here is in that list too. Regards. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIG86uAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOGbUIALhiFsOfkEjjAiKLsk0gLti4 VxO3FyG6i6OnXjnn9+y0ja+ROt4KmU0U8BAtzZlkE5ptx1x2gBJhZnoIOsZN/Seo q7gbZeAzlA0mg2F24qHBnFcvRpWV5ehw0WuTpztgrrrO3zMAs9JhCxYZ1ADybXkl W+qBvkLZWjFj8kOu6YpRmH5Ns3gRlOhW37SL/DuJJ7LJAPrai/WfrMeUlQacQcz/ mMNmCi1IUKUUL546xibtkd/z9PdCMRmu+TIa5l1B9sDCNW2kH6jijYQpXM2Qs1KD sY5hKM2SxhzVsNLARhhZmjpf0sGIpakCciRU2c2lvCg/BIfw6mgwCXcfMNiice8= =Vorn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Fri May 2 20:33:55 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 23:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Problems with some special characters In-Reply-To: <481BCEAE.5050500@gmail.com> References: <481BCEAE.5050500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481BDD23.5020304@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Faramir wrote: > Hello! > A couple of days ago, I notticed my signed messages were having > problems (broken signatures), so I joined this list to ask for help. I > saw another list member having the same problem, so I just followed the > hints he got, and my problem has improved a lot. However, I tested some > special characters (like this one: ?), and the signature broke again. > But if I reply to a message with those characters doesn't cause > problems, so I figure maybe it has something to do with some character > conversion... My Thunderbird uses Occidental ISO-8859-1) character set > as default, and I am thinking maybe changing that to utf-8 could solve > the problem, but I am not sure about that, so I'd like to know what do > you think about this idea. Changing Your Default Font to UTF-8 will correct Your Character encoding issues. > By the way, since probably this problem is not due GnuPG, I > didn't want to bother people in that list... but I see most people I > have seen here is in that list too. Most, if not all, Encryption Applications have their own List. In order to not spawn distracting threads many of Us participate in several Application specific Lists/Groups. PGP-Basics is a Yahoo Group that, despite its Name, is Open to Discussions/Threads on all aspects of encryption, techniques, and "left field" queries pertaining to the use of either PGP or GnuPG. Membership is Open to any & everyone with an interest in Encryption. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PGP-Basics/join JOHN :-D Timestamp: Friday 02 May 2008, 23:33 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIG90hAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPpB8H/Rg9JvB+pAkPHx0h9QX9aUjM hlB2WBUmE/hE+tt2WjX+6p0mvCKzmROf9PENaDYwrkbqQPsoWmBVA9526ib/QsLl 3L3dwdNXOnLGociH2HLzoxyKbZob3xC0yGNHw2SKcF8ESUSBU9cdi5P/ko+JM/LH IESjV5bEnZC35PvtNsO3lkJaMuN0Bg3jxMpG7avTEeqTtSE457ST21G3R9+SjvFH tqlfRqGT782bijcwvGxvzse0dkAl/T414MgRg/lFHttZKepegJhdyUZVB7xWymen pknWyHBmxxBPP5Hpi1Pny8TD9ZbK7gUkni6KR+cX6Q8dTdM/o4WlAbxpgt++U2Y= =cNXK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sat May 3 01:25:55 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 04:25:55 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Problems with some special characters In-Reply-To: <481BDD23.5020304@bellsouth.net> References: <481BCEAE.5050500@gmail.com> <481BDD23.5020304@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <481C2193.7040003@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After a couple of failures, I checked my antivirus settings, and found it was checking my outgoing messages too... I disabled that feature (since I am sure I am not spreading viruses), and I hope this time the problem is solved for good (I am also using utf-8). I am not really sure about how to set up thunderbird to use utf-8 by default, so I am selecting that character set each time I compose a new message.... > John W. Moore III escribi?: > Faramir wrote: > > Hello! > > A couple of days ago, I notticed my signed messages were having > > problems (broken signatures), so I joined this list to ask for help. I > > saw another list member having the same problem, so I just followed the > > hints he got, and my problem has improved a lot. However, I tested some > > special characters (like this one: ?), and the signature broke again. > > But if I reply to a message with those characters doesn't cause > > problems, so I figure maybe it has something to do with some character > > conversion... My Thunderbird uses Occidental ISO-8859-1) character set > > as default, and I am thinking maybe changing that to utf-8 could solve > > the problem, but I am not sure about that, so I'd like to know what do > > you think about this idea. > > Changing Your Default Font to UTF-8 will correct Your Character encoding > issues. > > ..... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHCGTAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOZggH/1ZwTdOT9z5+rr4+ug4DjM/J tLzkNSFL3vnCIOM6KqcVfKV+epZdQRwZzFO4vnK1plwYIOPaj1swLmipLV+XWHgh ElkfE6Q0m8rvnfJjPlcn0eI7h4/5n7HjDnLZflPMCIZCdYc/DSkSMF2AyD885myd yCTrnWAIEiOtdna1ZG/lMd9WvkcRtJiTktpeWsPiVRuKhVdss4wIprKO0MJOWNpk WIaMHJK8sdle7BZLUe64xTdReuyDb0p+gM9QDIQ5/Gsf1JkIoJQbgdDHm4l+XaSz Dq6EEIbBV7Kwf3O7XNVgcGcwPHBIajHWTymW7c2AWyXPbUkb4eZi4DYNaOl4gSQ= =5sYe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bob.henson at galen.org.uk Sat May 3 02:08:28 2008 From: bob.henson at galen.org.uk (Bob Henson) Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 10:08:28 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Problems with some special characters In-Reply-To: <481C2193.7040003@gmail.com> References: <481BCEAE.5050500@gmail.com> <481BDD23.5020304@bellsouth.net> <481C2193.7040003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481C2B8C.6000309@galen.org.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 - -------- Original Message -------- From: Faramir To: Enigmail user discussion list , Faramir.cl at gmail.com Subject: Re:[Enigmail] Problems with some special characters Date: Sat May 03 2008 09:25:55 | After a couple of failures, I checked my antivirus settings, and found | it was checking my outgoing messages too... I disabled that feature | (since I am sure I am not spreading viruses), and I hope this time the | problem is solved for good (I am also using utf-8). I am not really sure | about how to set up thunderbird to use utf-8 by default, Options > Display > Formatting > Fonts > Character encodings - and set them as you will. You can set Thunderbird to always use UTF-8 for outbound messages there. Regards, Bob -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIHCuAAAoJEJ3GodtqGtFCN8MIAIq7/nY85JmeUwkaLqxxWdDX Fz5ALpwJ49mWDB0KFyBcxgN62DG/5zLYYIkUMfduizs8Fihy9jteOWHudAEdX4kv suBWPU8CrCjxKcNd5uznnSXwqIAUSDR5HJkx+K3jdOULtzKUCRKlmpZfCAFrxhQP 4yLgDWUqTK3xODsIwFws3OW903AmK+8mEp3Oy1Z+yfVfyDzaLPLL8Z8FBH6alXfS 2NgqyQxDvl2AsrWOfsfvESs2A6Qe4sYbQvp82SQ74WhDstoFy0ux/AVlWuIb263E +TkpKMHe6C6r+IAKGhtNqX3ZMd9DoENm/wGXUVQKeK+MyR2sOGP0azBbl66Y5/I= =tVLV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cadmiumgrundy at verizon.net Sun May 4 19:43:55 2008 From: cadmiumgrundy at verizon.net (Nathaniel Barber) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 22:43:55 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] My first use of Enigmail -- please be gentle ... Message-ID: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Howdy, I come in peace. I've just configured Enigmail to run on T-bird, and ... would a kind soul among you be willing to help me test Enigmail's encryption features? Hitting Send now ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgedGsACgkQS9mhSN70pH8jzwCfXDXaOXMyJlh91k2BTYdJgyxK aaEAniExEdANcia9EXx54ob3bN3SjCOr =Zs8M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 4 20:23:30 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 23:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] My first use of Enigmail -- please be gentle ... In-Reply-To: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> References: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <481E7DB2.50705@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Nathaniel Barber wrote: > Howdy, I come in peace. > I've just configured Enigmail to run on T-bird, and ... > would a kind soul among you be willing to help me test Enigmail's > encryption features? > Hitting Send now ... Your Signature verified just Great. Congratulations. If You have Enigmail configured for auto-Key retrieval from most any Keyserver then You should have My Key by now. If not, a Link to My Key may be found in the Message Header and by clicking 'View' > 'Message Source' from the toolbar and locating the Link in the Comment lines of My Signature Block. ;) Send Me an Encrypted Email direct and I shall be glad to correspond with Ya. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Sunday 04 May 2008, 23:23 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIHn2vAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPO4QH+wYqbgq07q0KzLi1+CBXbtnw l4bm6IAoJwbzfoagpBzNOLLsgTUF10gqUfQdurLl9G5X/6AiIo5ZKsnAS0lQgPRk T5TcYtMPQFdSyufxXj01f82ridrKI8xqKEL5fch6Aey5U4EOIqtdoXBmBC1grJ4B 4nyzfCKFvgSgAwqij5/euDt5Fp3bQOq1Z1qVLoKhJMXsXLdg/r+j94lHczrQbZF3 4LyrXhYIImsE2dBxC8735ok9XwZHBUcFS9KV1PplRb38qSIACnkN/v1oIGXuoVxR qcI1MI5ZwZSIwjg3PiJjTesU3kImEKRvYzZtxmkl6B/ckNPLQIvO463L6VwrOJ0= =jLl2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Sun May 4 20:24:58 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 23:24:58 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] My first use of Enigmail -- please be gentle ... In-Reply-To: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> References: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> Message-ID: <481E7E0A.7020606@mac.com> Nathaniel Barber wrote the following on 5/4/08 10:43 PM: > Howdy, I come in peace. > I've just configured Enigmail to run on T-bird, and ... > would a kind soul among you be willing to help me test Enigmail's > encryption features? > Hitting Send now ... Howdy, welcome. Your signature verifies: Good signature from Nathaniel Barber Key ID: 0xDEF4A47F / Signed on: 5/4/08 10:43 PM Key fingerprint: D029 7095 1DFE FB4F FDAE 8795 4BD9 A148 DEF4 A47F By separate direct message, I'll send you a test signed and encrypted message, as well as my public key. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.95.6 From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Sun May 4 23:11:12 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:11:12 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] My first use of Enigmail -- please be gentle ... In-Reply-To: <481E7DB2.50705@bellsouth.net> References: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> <481E7DB2.50705@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <481EA500.7030003@upf.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John W. Moore III escribi?: > Nathaniel Barber wrote: > [...] > Send Me an Encrypted Email direct and I shall be glad to correspond with Ya. > Hi! If I want to send an encrypted msg to you, do I need to - - sign your keyID? - - set the trust to maximun? Is it right? cheers - -- ramon loureiro -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHqT6AAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHGTQH/2jstqeBHcoLmVLMo8iFW/Dd zytmvfPlM4KLHojdWHP1JGhXvTCo9RK+59v/fdt4qLxFWjI7oaTAJKCzNHqW/wTD QOyLiqaSGs5VkuYLa/23P7qWvj7YbemfyAIhp9H5u6kTnyuv2ONY/VhMfLnjXVpz yxH4jkX3BTM4ejAeF5tMIq4F6+iI8rx+QxJlZt/9pfCLsCNrC53/w5kzKv+p+6il EEYIMrDiNYVDxURX3ic+H+MPHL/qzLJjFDj8XQcpGJVsj8muAoSOYuPOa6rSYFU3 gERqtlDXRIRlYmEmnse1u5tgKebsn7gOs1cm88el+n4qPtXNNCEJAxV70m5+7yM= =Yd+w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 4 23:12:59 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 02:12:59 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Trying to avoid broken signatures Message-ID: <481EA56B.20406@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If I select to send a message both as plain text and html, would that cause any problem? I tested it a few minutes ago, and when I open the message, for an instant I see the "failed" message, and then it turns to verified... so I think the html fails, and then it reads the plain text version... or I am wrong about that? Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHqVqAAoJEIISGkVDGUEO3AcH/368ceUX4c8X7M/agWKA8yj0 XZ27SWdAnOnuqZyuZdreQswulQrVb4SbmqHqUzHgmQqMMI3Acc5OkSW2uPhepeWt 31p+vXHSivC6T8WeD6xqXSpfF3OoFuPbB1DiNlc8rwLPd54Qk+FU2nQAoUETX0L3 9dy30Fm0CoB8UjgU+HyGLZeW+qYSUFtBTGoJjf2cN7wfo8LSD7W2H9BABcGIwebO HqA36hkcj5+tjiagH+ioMeoQXcY+dlTus6sAQ1RLZs0QMlIs20rpkykkr0bfwY31 GX3BEYThdXtTgZ/teWJnmguR77apaT4a5WaQVSHfe1/XI0M4m5FpVR7WWdkNJFY= =xxh0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080505/400a78b4/attachment.html From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Sun May 4 23:14:39 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:14:39 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello=Test In-Reply-To: <481B861A.5040102@gmail.com> References: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> <481ADC8E.7080308@upf.edu> <481B861A.5040102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481EA5CF.4060501@upf.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Faramir escribi?: > Now I got this from Ramon's message: gpg l?nea de comandos y > salida:,C:\\Archivos de programa\\GNU\\GnuPG\\gpg.exe --charset utf8 > --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d,gpg: invalid armor header: > =20\r\n,gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n (sorry for the part in > spanish, however, the important part is in english) > > I am following hints for Ramon Loureiro, since my signatures use to > break too... and it seems things are improving, thanks > > > Ramon Loureiro escribi?: > > sandman escribi?: > >> Hello, newbie here testing PGP. > >> Thanks Hi, I do not understand why you have received my spanish path to my gpg program... :-? And I am still having problems with my signature.. :-( - --- ramon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHqXKAAoJEMVZKsuAx9ZHWSIH/0WchOjzlNSjmvFQ3uOylY0E QhVHUtXqPju92OLft7tQiLujZzhIv5sUCrNbROacm2P1mog8f+qCLjrTIaJbnUmu 8j5+F4LWSMC5+P5/KP/36EIYuuBLR5sT5QxLd3qO0DuA2/nAAynOCXX8ZAPfsDQ7 oaPQktB9WAm4XNh39XVOXORqPmOa6S03WcJ+S2AL+PN6c1wBH5cOdQ6tWM8TKGvF WVOw4X6cxRe649mo0yWkeVZjlG/hOxFYFxj3epHN0MqqvthNtMZ18YhJPKFN76ra Xp7AV8oh40goeHG6CRBBHlv2baQe/ZKpBZf/WcUgLmf2FsMyUxvPn/jqjUojtnc= =soGB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wolf.canis at googlemail.com Sun May 4 23:25:54 2008 From: wolf.canis at googlemail.com (Wolf Canis) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 08:25:54 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Trying to avoid broken signatures In-Reply-To: <481EA56B.20406@gmail.com> References: <481EA56B.20406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481EA872.7040007@googlemail.com> Faramir wrote: > If I select to send a message both as plain text and html, would that > cause any problem? I tested it a few minutes ago, and when I open the > message, for an instant I see the "failed" message, and then it turns > to verified... so I think the html fails, and then it reads the plain > text version... or I am wrong about that? > > Regards Hello, I can't verify your signature. Do you use PGP/MIME? You have to, if your message is a HTML message or HTML and TEXT. If you write a new or a reply, before you send, check with the button OpenPGP which features are selected. Have fun, at least a little bit. ;-) W. Canis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 260 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080505/d5d7ff32/attachment.bin From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 4 23:37:50 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 02:37:50 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello=Test In-Reply-To: <481EA5CF.4060501@upf.edu> References: <481ADB63.2040509@mrsandman.net> <481ADC8E.7080308@upf.edu> <481B861A.5040102@gmail.com> <481EA5CF.4060501@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481EAB3E.1020209@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Ramon Loureiro escribi?: > Faramir escribi?: > > Now I got this from Ramon's message: gpg l?nea de comandos y > > salida:,C:\\Archivos de programa\\GNU\\GnuPG\\gpg.exe --charset utf8 > > --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d,gpg: invalid armor header: > > =20\r\n,gpg: invalid armor header: =20\r\n (sorry for the part in > > spanish, however, the important part is in english) > > ...... > Hi, > I do not understand why you have received my spanish path to my gpg > program... > :-? > And I am still having problems with my signature.. :-( > --- > ramon The spanish path is the path to my GnuPG folder, it is the error message given by my own computer... I meant I recived that error when trying to verify your signature. I am having problems with my signature too, from time to time.... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHqs+AAoJEIISGkVDGUEO32oH/iynW6Bz//nl+/TDPbRh1M4R PegjDLCNgbZe11v6Wk7PbYiltoDOHKUYKhmCMXK7FrhJNE+l3lu/wJV3VsZ4Tim8 eqShvyryhVxvrOuPXHcS3cnWFoxfIm/CBiTBt5UpkonLT7/+qELPfn/t+Qy9zlLD xLOtOPC/0zNUNIETNF2mjCNTGSyl1BNpa+uZK/w/W/5U2gvQ+33oOAyd80yJ8pjf vKQQVqktweTbo6LKMOxizz97AebZgh+dZls34auMT9v/nu0SVFCj+ljg9udH5c2o sep/AS3iaWSijg/gC+HII3nHzA8tTX3zGgC4UOSSOBXOVvCZKWLsuqqYmp/b+KI= =ITN8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 4 23:48:55 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 02:48:55 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Trying to avoid broken signatures In-Reply-To: <481EA872.7040007@googlemail.com> References: <481EA56B.20406@gmail.com> <481EA872.7040007@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <481EADD7.3020205@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wolf Canis escribi?: > Faramir wrote: >> If I select to send a message both as plain text and html, would that >> cause any problem? I tested it a few minutes ago, and when I open the >> message, for an instant I see the "failed" message, and then it turns >> to verified... so I think the html fails, and then it reads the plain >> text version... or I am wrong about that? >> >> Regards > Hello, > I can't verify your signature. Do you use PGP/MIME? You have to, if > your message is a HTML message or HTML and TEXT. > If you write a new or a reply, before you send, check with the button > OpenPGP which features are selected. > > Have fun, at least a little bit. ;-) > W. Canis > Hello: No, I was not using PGP/MIME, since I was told not everybody support that way of delivering messages... I think I will have to send the messages using just plain text... Is there a way to tell enigmail to convert html messages to plain text before signing them? thanks for your help -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIHq3XAAoJEIISGkVDGUEO9E0H/jgV65UfsVoWizjABXio12ne +3hAhNWDXIvM6YSI4V2uMX9us36rxjBy/bBwOkqXjIVsof7aOkN4ULfAL04yBoXn GijAd2NmDL06DKOLqkEqqv1LSxNVcv0gkEuEQaJZZZ29IDI7DPoUVeRei9uzqW1+ K9f4cw25nIIygm64zHD2pZuJiaTnJ28m+XDGyqWD7qPBCNmtsDZL02BiYtFyCDe/ GYxsd/JF+UXtJ/R8l49Yeg8KRrY3d9zEaBO+DfRpsIMAcKQYSd3ZGP1+0DZKsss3 k/G6ZYUzFmQK8ZTeq3WKQRiXb6+WomknFP7xRcVXivxYZ+W52A0JhDy3Ewhn9bI= =+rRr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 5 02:14:36 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 11:14:36 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Trying to avoid broken signatures In-Reply-To: <481EADD7.3020205@gmail.com> References: <481EA56B.20406@gmail.com> <481EA872.7040007@googlemail.com> <481EADD7.3020205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <481ECFFC.5040706@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Faramir, > I was not using PGP/MIME, since I was told not everybody support that way of > delivering messages. I think I will send the messages using just plain text. that is what Enigmail's per receipient rules are for. You may set Enigmail to default to plain text signing but explicitely set PGP/MIME for receipients where you know that their mail client is capable of correctly displaying it. > .. Is there a way to tell enigmail to convert html messages to plain text > before signing them? That's a general Thunderbird setting, look for it in Extras -> Options -> Compose -> Sending-Options... I'd recommend to set Extras -> Accounts -> Compose & Address -> Compose as HTML to FALSE as default. If you really need an (unsigned or PGP/MIME-signed) HTML-Email, then press SHIFT while clicking the reply or compose button. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgez/sACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2BLACgsnbk0hE5eQjy70/zT+NFGBKD CiUAniuh2Bq/3RCGaTRxyrKlIY76Kfco =sRSR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Mon May 5 02:44:44 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 11:44:44 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail in several computers In-Reply-To: <481832F9.3010004@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48178DC5.1090509@googlemail.com> <4817AF1C.4080909@bellsouth.net> <48182BEA.7040205@upf.edu> <481832F9.3010004@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <481ED70C.8080103@upf.edu> hi! En/na Robert J. Hansen ha escrit: > Ramon Loureiro wrote: > >> I'm new with GPG and Enigmail. >> > > Welcome to the community! :) > > >> I use my email at home and at work, and there in mora than one computer... >> > > The first question is, "which operating systems do you use?" The > instructions are a little simpler if they're all the same, but you can > do it across different operating systems without much work. > > For instance, on UNIX and OS X, GnuPG keeps its data in a directory > called $HOME/.gnupg. On Windows, it's somewhere else -- it's in one > place on Vista and one on XP. The Windows guys here will undoubtedly > tell you right where you can find it. :) > > Once you know what directory to look in, copy the files pubring.gpg, > secring.gpg and trustdb.gpg from your first machine to the appropriate > directory on the second machine. Also copy the file gpg.conf if it's there. > > Do not copy the file called random_seed. Copying that file can have > very bad effects on the security of the system. > I think I can't import. Attached you can find an image with the scrren capture of the error... Suggestions are wolcome... Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080505/cdde5581/attachment-0001.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error-importing.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 25341 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080505/cdde5581/attachment-0001.jpg From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 5 03:04:37 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:04:37 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail in several computers In-Reply-To: <481ED70C.8080103@upf.edu> References: <48178DC5.1090509@googlemail.com> <4817AF1C.4080909@bellsouth.net> <48182BEA.7040205@upf.edu> <481832F9.3010004@sixdemonbag.org> <481ED70C.8080103@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481EDBB5.5060101@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Ramon, > buffer shorter than subpacket > signature packet without keyid > signature packet without timestamp these are definitely problems with your keyring file, you seem to have one or more corrupt key(s). As a start you should try to find out which key(s) cause(s) the problem. Please address further questions to the GnuPG users list or Yahoo's PGP Basics group since this list focuses on Enigmail issues. The problem you have yields exactly the same error with and without using Enigmail. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkge27MACgkQL/NBt8fdKe0XawCeNiLsDqvRacd/S5pnpgzQyYNo Q2kAn1znPxI7ouoeP3kFu+IGht9DKDLS =sZ4x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Mon May 5 03:13:52 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 06:13:52 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] My first use of Enigmail -- please be gentle ... In-Reply-To: <481EA500.7030003@upf.edu> References: <481E746B.80808@verizon.net> <481E7DB2.50705@bellsouth.net> <481EA500.7030003@upf.edu> Message-ID: <481EDDE0.2050707@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ramon Loureiro wrote: > If I want to send an encrypted msg to you, do I need to > - sign your keyID? > - set the trust to maximun? > > Is it right? No, neither of the above is necessary. All that is required is that You have My Public Key to encrypt to. Now, GPG will alert You to the fact that You are encrypting to an 'Untrusted' Key but You can respond that that is OK and continue. You can avoid the 'Warning' by either Local Signing My Key or by checking the Option to 'Always Trust' Keys encrypted to under Enigmail Preferences. :) JOHN ;) Timestamp: Monday 05 May 2008, 06:13 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIHt3cAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPATQH/jf1h1NPq/2Qaqa2cJYrwDR4 3u3GS7iBpgf/yUEo1GrGYTdTvganlInDdmX/HLwHd5mLDRfS7t5aENcjhFaPBBkv ggO4rAnqfv7fDidT1xSk5+DIGIX4S97MtkN6n2Hw5qA9lKZHVMRu7g5r+XjxKd1b rKqkvlyYp5C8+PVGFOCz0mWQcbUDh3pV7TlsGUfA8SBej8SuK5GksEuwOW+Kza/i noxgI7avJHw1Mr7B0LMJS69NJSj8uhysm9BWnu1oq3GnpJeAhj1tnmiCjsM3sNx3 ct9x14P/lI3rMYZJx87JYBZVZNFQzWH++v8EI12TFw4rNSr96DAZpxdNvgzDmJY= =fU/U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From evilc1 at iinet.net.au Mon May 5 06:39:53 2008 From: evilc1 at iinet.net.au (Clive Thomas) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 23:39:53 +1000 Subject: [Enigmail] importing public keys Message-ID: <481F0E29.5090401@iinet.net.au> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have been trying to import some public keys from my mail (thunderbird-Linux OS), out of 6 different keys I have only managed to get one. I got that one using http://keyserver.net, using the same server for the others I got: gpg: requesting key (key ID) from http server keyserver.net gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 gpg: keyserver internal error gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error If I try other servers they all seem to hang and nothing happens? Any suggestions what's going on. Also what are the popular keyservers to use for importing/verifying keys, and how to check if they are online. tia - -- Clive evilc1 at iinet.net.au Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, Today is a gift. That's why it's called, The Present -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIHw4oyixNsVfre4wRAu2LAJwLgxHtGZnofGAgvW8HP5JV9tFIVgCgwV/S PBtz6I7HZpEwi78H9hM+qwo= =9uIW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 5 07:13:14 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:13:14 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] importing public keys In-Reply-To: <481F0E29.5090401@iinet.net.au> References: <481F0E29.5090401@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: <481F15FA.9060205@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Clive, > I have been trying to import some public keys from my mail > (thunderbird-Linux OS), out of 6 different keys I have only managed to > get one. I got that one using http://keyserver.net, using the same > server for the others I got: > > gpg: requesting key (key ID) from http server keyserver.net > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. > gpg: Total number processed: 0 > gpg: keyserver internal error > gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error Personally, I prefer to use a server hosted by DFN-CERT (Hamburg, Germany): http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net/ (= http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/). When I search my keys with http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=olav+seyfarth , I get 8 valid results. To use it with GnuPG, I added a keyserver line as denoted at the main page in section "Using this Server via HKP" to gpg.conf . This is not necessary for Enigmail - there you may set your favorite keyserver in OpenPGP -> Preferences (-> Show Advanced Settings) -> Keyserver -> Specify your Keyserver(s) (a ", "-separated list). > If I try other servers they all seem to hang and nothing happens? Any > suggestions what's going on. No idea; maybe your search term matched many keys? Usually, servers should answer within seconds. > Also what are the popular keyservers to use for importing/verifying keys, > and how to check if they are online. I prefer the PGP.NET (SKS) keyserver network to publish my keys but I also use biglumber.com and the PGP.com keyserver. I automatically import keys attached to emails and from wwwkeys.de.pgp.net, and manually from URLs given. Verifying keys is a complete different story since the existence on a key server telly you nothing about whether this key really belongs to a certain person. In fact, I could impersonate you by creating a key using your name and email address as UID and upload it to any server. It would not help me much unless I were able to redirect your email traffic, too, of course. You'll know that a key service is online if you can reacu its web frontend. At least most services do have one. If the backend is fine, you can only guess from the answers you (don't) get. But many servers provide for a status page, e.g. http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=stats Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgfFfkACgkQL/NBt8fdKe1ykwCgsR5TLbDMfjOL299pGeGpPs8j 1QkAnRX+EXYDMhAr74hR3oQXZTALf/24 =Uheu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From evilc1 at iinet.net.au Mon May 5 07:41:57 2008 From: evilc1 at iinet.net.au (Clive Thomas) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 00:41:57 +1000 Subject: [Enigmail] importing public keys In-Reply-To: <481F15FA.9060205@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <481F0E29.5090401@iinet.net.au> <481F15FA.9060205@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <481F1CB5.3050006@iinet.net.au> Olav Seyfarth wrote: > Hi Clive, >> gpg: requesting key (key ID) from http server keyserver.net >> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. >> gpg: Total number processed: 0 >> gpg: keyserver internal error >> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error > > Personally, I prefer to use a server hosted by DFN-CERT (Hamburg, Germany): > http://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net/ (= http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/). When I search my > keys with http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=olav+seyfarth , I get > 8 valid results. > Hi, Thanks for the reply, I tried the lookup and that worked for all (5) tested. When I tried to import (for test only) your key using the same keyserver I got, gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0 Yet the lookup search part found your key? From westr1000 at yahoo.com Mon May 5 11:02:38 2008 From: westr1000 at yahoo.com (preeta) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Enigmail] hello Message-ID: <652400.65048.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am Preeta. I am trying to configure my email client to use enigmail. I am just following the step-by-step instructions in the Enigmail Quick start guide. I would appreciate if someone kind enough will help me in testing the enigmail encryption features of this email. Many Thanks, Preeta -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgfTN4ACgkQu1+WV64dATOWkACfTIZcFQkL4MqX7z2C8iiVdaE1 WQ4AnAxNzHh90t+1gZypAGNieW1EJgSp =z3VS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Mon May 5 11:48:01 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:48:01 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] hello In-Reply-To: <652400.65048.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <652400.65048.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <481F5661.7020603@sixdemonbag.org> preeta wrote: > I would appreciate if someone kind enough will help me > in testing the enigmail encryption features of this email. The comment line of your signature got messed up somehow. See: Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org ... A comment is allowed to only span one line. Try fixing that and see if it works. :) From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 5 13:11:10 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 22:11:10 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] hello In-Reply-To: <481F5661.7020603@sixdemonbag.org> References: <652400.65048.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <481F5661.7020603@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <481F69DE.2080501@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Preeta, > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org this looks like a Yahoo / line wrap problem. You may either check your Yahoo settings or disable the default comment in OpenPGP -> Preferences -> (Show Expert Settings) -> Advanced -> Add Enigmail comment in OpenPGP signature -> REMOVE TICK MARK . Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgfadsACgkQL/NBt8fdKe0hjgCgrK5OmyCC57gFG9y3XkH/gPe6 0lwAoJwvT+eAgVFD3j6KOqyrcYRLKYpm =FfUp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From westr1000 at yahoo.com Mon May 5 14:43:09 2008 From: westr1000 at yahoo.com (preeta) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Enigmail] test encryption features Message-ID: <413437.65112.qm@web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, My name is Preeta. I am trying to configure my email client to use enigmail. I am following the Enigmail Quickstart Guide to do this. Could someone kindly test this email for enigmail's encryption features please? Many Thanks, Preeta -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkgfgI4ACgkQu1+WV64dATOp2wCfch7/5chFEWXGxMdI6AVvstHS i44An3Vk4wr+0QqO1uo2ACF7rl43l2lF =l9mM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 5 23:40:12 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 08:40:12 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] test encryption features In-Reply-To: <413437.65112.qm@web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <413437.65112.qm@web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <481FFD4C.4060503@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Preeta, > I am following the Enigmail Quickstart Guide. Thank you. That is exactly what you should have done. Sidenote to other list members: there will be a robot to perform this kind of task in the future. However, it will still take some time since its author is currently busy. But things ar on their way. > Could someone test this email for enigmail's encryption features please? Your message yields the following OpenPGP Security Info: Error - signature verification failed OK, so it did NOT work. gpg: Unterschrift vom 05/05/08 23:47:58 mittels DSA-Schl?ssel ID AE1D0133 Enigmail works since it found the signature. From the keyID (which is part of the signature) it knows which public key to use to decrypt the signature. But that key is not yet in the keyring. Since I configured GnuPG (and Enigmail) to automatically fetch missing keys (caution, that might bloat your keyring), gpg now tries to download and import that key: gpg: fordere Schl?ssel AE1D0133 von hkp-Server wwwkeys.de.pgp.net an gpg: Schl?ssel AE1D0133: ??ffentlicher Schl?ssel "preeta " importiert gpg: Anzahl insgesamt bearbeiteter Schl?ssel: 1 gpg: importiert: 1 OK, gpg successfully downloaded and imported your public key. Using that key gpg now decrypts the signature and compares the hash with the self-calculated one: gpg: FALSCHE Unterschrift von "preeta " They don't match. So the last line indicates a "INCORRECT signature". What might have caused this? From the layout of your message I suspect line wrapping. So I saved your message to a file, removed the line breaks within the text part ("My name ... please?") and verified using gpg CLI: now it verifies CORRECT. => Your Thunderbird and/or Yahoo setup seems to wrap lines where it should not. I don't use Yahoo, so I can't tell for sure but I am sure there are preferences (Web interface, TB AddOn) concerning whether and when to wrap. Please set all of them to e.g. 72 chars and you should be fine. BTW, you can verify that your settings work by sending to yourself prior to sending to the list. This all was about signing. You also asked to test encryption. You may send encrypted message(s) to me to test, but be sure to solve the wrap / signing issue FIRST. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgf/UsACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2M+wCeMdhB+DF2K5H+3PGQP4CNwOoX h3QAoLmm7GFa0nCbSouGCBTsGAnwzEAF =DwtM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Tue May 6 07:39:57 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:39:57 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? Message-ID: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> Hi, I am experiencing the following problem, when trying to process (verify) signed messages posted by certain forum members. This same problem existed when I was running Enigmail 0.95.6, and now when I am running Enigmail version 0.96a (20080501). I am running Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) Macintosh, on a Macbook (Intel Processor), with gpg 1.4.9 or gpg2 2.0.9, see details below. *Nothing* happens, the signed message is not processed, there is no output of any kind. I have tried two possible situations: - when 'Automatically Decrypt/Verify Messages' is enabled. - when the above option is not enabled, and I click the 'Decrypt' icon. These messages have in common the following components: - their raw source displays: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 - instead of the "usual" signed message with PGP headers and footers, the raw source displays a block of rows that contain, each, 76 (seventy six) characters. I would have expected 64 characters, as in base64 format. When I process these same messages using other cryptographic systems, the messages *are* processed, and display "BAD signature...". Those systems are: Apple's Mail with the GPGMail.bundle, using gpg2 2.0.9 Eudora's with Chang's AppleScripts, using gpg 1.4.9 All other messages I have received and continue to received, signed, or signed and encrypted, are correctly processed (verified, decrypted, verified). Thanks in advance for your feedback. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From Cheef-Daniel at freenet.de Tue May 6 08:16:30 2008 From: Cheef-Daniel at freenet.de (Daniel) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 17:16:30 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> <481ADB79.6040805@upf.edu> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi maybe you have the same problem I posted a few days ago into the bugtracker. https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19065 It has to do with thunderbird/enigmail and the way it handles the autolinewraps. I hope this gets fixed soon because I can't use enigmail with thunderbird because every mail I send, becomes an invalid signature. Daniel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIIHZNAAoJEGlVt4JuPoo8DnMH/0BrtmsuAmJq/m7oDDnQ5rOG riRoLqyNyC97gKQdEq3EC0soL/I7eMw9bTNeR3zBDiU7qGEQy7a+gjcLeIAFkno9 Y5B3VouDvO/e0coT6gp3z/c9r9mqlnS3NH/OzKitdfycUJJuVGMplM4ssQFKYxMJ e9zDLxwA4ZUMs4WzwX07f0jFKEI4afvO3Qj745dIDLhnt1R+rq4gIIQ94TchI8FC LlOo2JIKDISG0prmvBeVYZCMFqA7HjqdEKX6q2D5CznugYmcNtL+7N9QSUZ2nGx9 GfhQxWuAHaRdaPONVlcAc9Y8jN6W9b1xTu7Oac5Au20uFmivqqfDB6vEB/Lw5WM= =wIRs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bjtasker at btasker.me.uk Tue May 6 10:00:56 2008 From: bjtasker at btasker.me.uk (Bernard Tasker) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 18:00:56 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> <481ADB79.6040805@upf.edu> Message-ID: <48208EC8.3090508@btasker.me.uk> Daniel wrote: > Hi maybe you have the same problem I posted a few days ago into the > bugtracker. https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19065 > > It has to do with thunderbird/enigmail and the way it handles the > autolinewraps. > I hope this gets fixed soon because I can't use enigmail with > thunderbird because every mail I send, becomes an invalid signature. > > Daniel Daniel Your signature seems ok here: quote: OpenPGP Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from X-Coder Key ID: 0x6E3E8A3C / Signed on: 06/05/2008 16:16 Key fingerprint: E774 139E E924 3B13 7F97 8A36 6426 7B1C 207E 4FDD unquote Bernard _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Tue May 6 10:53:33 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 13:53:33 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] my signature does not verify! In-Reply-To: References: <481AD0E4.5080608@upf.edu> <481AD631.2070909@hammernoch.net> <481ADB79.6040805@upf.edu> Message-ID: <48209B1D.9070104@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Daniel wrote: > Hi maybe you have the same problem I posted a few days ago into the > bugtracker. https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=19065 > > It has to do with thunderbird/enigmail and the way it handles the > autolinewraps. > I hope this gets fixed soon because I can't use enigmail with > thunderbird because every mail I send, becomes an invalid signature. 1st.... Is this 'Bug' an "Operator Assisted Failure" or an actual failure of Enigmail? Have You Set the proper Line/Word wrap within Thunderbird under 'Account Settings' to 70 or 72 so that the Text presented to gpg.exe is 'suitable'? Additionally, please endure You are not Composing in HTML format as this adds 'LF' functions to the Body of the Message which will not 'play nice' with GPG. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Tuesday 06 May 2008, 13:53 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIIJscAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsP9tcH/idZ97KrDXk5c/aKaBkaBYRd 5+s3o2PhThbM34N2UQLBBx3Yqz80a3bYYrYn/I0rxa5ko3WuHw4t3cqPD7/NqUca Iat6lUoX6s+2FAr9w+sleKG1fuemErBkTAnzmhpzrwUUP69eVE6zpZPHHFPz4oky NKnLSLPXQTjR2uOiq3rckTCIrLs6i98U58oQJC7LMtWzGbFlnvBAmqNnUJepTk9U l/++RBPPBSb4hFlttEN4/mR5FlCjhhBAIlsZcp+W+ZDrlpvZaNGpPigGjSDEmbXa FNryHBVKLoh7rb+9qyOCrfxuCO8AQajdo3zvZ0IGuBrjydjCGt1cJ8xOYd9kxHg= =dXy5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Tue May 6 23:28:49 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:28:49 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> Message-ID: <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Hi, > > I am experiencing the following problem, when trying to process (verify) > signed messages posted by certain forum members. > > This same problem existed when I was running Enigmail 0.95.6, and now > when I am running Enigmail version 0.96a (20080501). > > I am running Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) Macintosh, on a > Macbook (Intel Processor), with gpg 1.4.9 or gpg2 2.0.9, see details below. > > *Nothing* happens, the signed message is not processed, there is no > output of any kind. > > I have tried two possible situations: > - when 'Automatically Decrypt/Verify Messages' is enabled. > - when the above option is not enabled, and I click the 'Decrypt' icon. > > These messages have in common the following components: > > - their raw source displays: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-transfer-encoding: base64 > - instead of the "usual" signed message with PGP headers and footers, > the raw source displays a block of rows that contain, each, 76 (seventy > six) characters. I would have expected 64 characters, as in base64 format. Interesting, I have never seen that. Could you send me such a message? - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCFMFXcOpHodsOiwAQIl2Qf/fm9Kzsw9cFQDjyx78Rhd7lvWUC+LXJVH 8WXmWmNvzq/huEYFZ7AfAuFqjdYsn7PcufUKRvhYZj1Mo3kjpqsSL2LHAUyLQcRh QFHIBr+6ERdYT/6iBXkt7koW5VI1xrUbWPSLMBn/Bw/I7ldy9OcWcycSOVwNlcY5 AgAqFMX20FEFDTJlpSxfOwKz95AyAuX3wEpHMk7Jk32zTyuLEpsgYUFez8VE5v5p 5ZjYqDXk3kyCWXRI282XjPbxOfHZ0+TbqFZ3JtcYLnJxweGfaP3/Mpj2HfXlcA9W 1irhoI9UZTY7JBI6vD+fEnTKlESCVfWUA6/hZu/IN+e7uzEukPbvbw== =IJ/P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 7 00:02:20 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 03:02:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/7/08 2:28 AM: > Charly Avital wrote: >> Hi, > >> I am experiencing the following problem, when trying to process (verify) >> signed messages posted by certain forum members. > >> This same problem existed when I was running Enigmail 0.95.6, and now >> when I am running Enigmail version 0.96a (20080501). > >> I am running Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) Macintosh, on a >> Macbook (Intel Processor), with gpg 1.4.9 or gpg2 2.0.9, see details below. > >> *Nothing* happens, the signed message is not processed, there is no >> output of any kind. > >> I have tried two possible situations: >> - when 'Automatically Decrypt/Verify Messages' is enabled. >> - when the above option is not enabled, and I click the 'Decrypt' icon. > >> These messages have in common the following components: > >> - their raw source displays: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> Content-transfer-encoding: base64 >> - instead of the "usual" signed message with PGP headers and footers, >> the raw source displays a block of rows that contain, each, 76 (seventy >> six) characters. I would have expected 64 characters, as in base64 format. > > Interesting, I have never seen that. Could you send me such a message? Hi Patrick, Thank you for the feedback. Those messages can be found in Enigmail's list postings. I am afraid that if I just "fwd" them to you, you will not get the original content. Here is one example (there are few others); please try to verify it, and/or to view its raw source. If you do not experience the same problem as I do, or if you experience different problems, that may be a start to "assign" the cause/origin of the problem. Sender Subject Date olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Re: [Enigmail] test encryption features 5/6/08 Copy/paste of the message text: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Preeta, > > I am following the Enigmail Quickstart Guide. Thank you. That is exactly what you should have done. Sidenote to other list members: there will be a robot to perform this kind of task in the future. However, it will still take some time since its author is currently busy. But things ar on their way. > > Could someone test this email for enigmail's encryption features please? Your message yields the following OpenPGP Security Info: Error - signature verification failed OK, so it did NOT work. gpg: Unterschrift vom 05/05/08 23:47:58 mittels DSA-Schl??ssel ID AE1D0133 Enigmail works since it found the signature. From the keyID (which is part of the signature) it knows which public key to use to decrypt the signature. But that key is not yet in the keyring. Since I configured GnuPG (and Enigmail) to automatically fetch missing keys (caution, that might bloat your keyring), gpg now tries to download and import that key: gpg: fordere Schl??ssel AE1D0133 von hkp-Server wwwkeys.de.pgp.net an gpg: Schl??ssel AE1D0133: ????ffentlicher Schl??ssel "preeta " importiert gpg: Anzahl insgesamt bearbeiteter Schl??ssel: 1 gpg: importiert: 1 OK, gpg successfully downloaded and imported your public key. Using that key gpg now decrypts the signature and compares the hash with the self-calculated one: gpg: FALSCHE Unterschrift von "preeta " They don't match. So the last line indicates a "INCORRECT signature". What might have caused this? From the layout of your message I suspect line wrapping. So I saved your message to a file, removed the line breaks within the text part ("My name ... please?") and verified using gpg CLI: now it verifies CORRECT. => Your Thunderbird and/or Yahoo setup seems to wrap lines where it should not. I don't use Yahoo, so I can't tell for sure but I am sure there are preferences (Web interface, TB AddOn) concerning whether and when to wrap. Please set all of them to e.g. 72 chars and you should be fine. BTW, you can verify that your settings work by sending to yourself prior to sending to the list. This all was about signing. You also asked to test encryption. You may send encrypted message(s) to me to test, but be sure to solve the wrap / signing issue FIRST. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgf/UsACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2M+wCeMdhB+DF2K5H+3PGQP4CNwOoX h3QAoLmm7GFa0nCbSouGCBTsGAnwzEAF =DwtM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ TIA, Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 7 00:30:31 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 09:30:31 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> Message-ID: <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/7/08 2:28 AM: >> Charly Avital wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I am experiencing the following problem, when trying to process (verify) >>> signed messages posted by certain forum members. >>> This same problem existed when I was running Enigmail 0.95.6, and now >>> when I am running Enigmail version 0.96a (20080501). >>> I am running Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 (20080421) Macintosh, on a >>> Macbook (Intel Processor), with gpg 1.4.9 or gpg2 2.0.9, see details below. >>> *Nothing* happens, the signed message is not processed, there is no >>> output of any kind. >>> I have tried two possible situations: >>> - when 'Automatically Decrypt/Verify Messages' is enabled. >>> - when the above option is not enabled, and I click the 'Decrypt' icon. >>> These messages have in common the following components: >>> - their raw source displays: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> Content-transfer-encoding: base64 >>> - instead of the "usual" signed message with PGP headers and footers, >>> the raw source displays a block of rows that contain, each, 76 (seventy >>> six) characters. I would have expected 64 characters, as in base64 format. >> Interesting, I have never seen that. Could you send me such a message? > > Hi Patrick, > > Thank you for the feedback. > > Those messages can be found in Enigmail's list postings. I am afraid > that if I just "fwd" them to you, you will not get the original content. > Here is one example (there are few others); please try to verify it, > and/or to view its raw source. If you do not experience the same problem > as I do, or if you experience different problems, that may be a start to > "assign" the cause/origin of the problem. > > Sender Subject Date > olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Re: [Enigmail] test encryption features 5/6/08 That's quite strange. I'm using the same v0.96a build as you do, and my Thunderbird verifies Olav's message perfectly fine. The only difference is that I'm using Linux, and you're using Mac OS X. What extensions did you install apart from Enigmail? - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCFalncOpHodsOiwAQJvygf9EkH97dKLfia64NEimIs1P+9BuwDsShjP pfcoycE2JtE6x9Aet16ow3KBABAqcFwZPhRteH3rYyi2p6Hr/GGN9jPZIMOiIMdC IYPqkoGgZKiRVhH265qFSnxYQVaahm9NEIWPKEOrcvOjPmNaxUcI+RObYVqczoZy jBAJYsU2mY8VfWm4e3ZPYQbPKJXrfB1G4+cfGbyZt5+a5zspGr3lOU3U8zwtCf2/ TXwocjJWhh3V+bNcHQIB4CQx8CBZLKu+vZpP2GHD+U9fvLOzhjiwcoFSO2XNzx56 9AA0o8jPoVS8fecU9UMTvHgsndSMJCLlvHKwG8kjmy0wv2ZRP7t22w== =hjLx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 7 00:53:10 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 03:53:10 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48215FE6.7050909@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/7/08 3:30 AM: [...] > > That's quite strange. I'm using the same v0.96a build as you do, and my > Thunderbird verifies Olav's message perfectly fine. The only difference > is that I'm using Linux, and you're using Mac OS X. I shall try to verify in Linux. I run Hardy Heron under Parallels. > > What extensions did you install apart from Enigmail? Dictionaries: ES - FR - HE HE Calendar Magic SLR Signature (*not* SignatureSwitch) Talkback TimeStamp All the above in the current updated versions. I have the impression that the problem is *not* Enigmail per se related, but Thunderbird, but I have not found, so far, explanations, or leads to explanations. Charly -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (Darwin) Comment: GnuPG for Privacy Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIIV/jAAoJEM3GMi2FW4PvPKwH/iEs5w/HTist87CzqY/P5D0G yOzmuoX+rksBPZT3Wcyg4vvZAv8B9tMlwtBh2jXhc2ldTUeRkjuMXIqd/yCrjiQe Gcte/R7MzrWnIs/YP1/gMxJCB9Ka2ySHdU8Pl+cvHhrDprtiBV816J7JcF7yVrGh AzyYlfh4x70BDKT70Pjaq3smnQJs10uwd6SWGQcgsiaIoQB35YfP71Xo0NkCvUGd pDhbW5P3AVd3Y/pt0IR2xO91Cst5H5ec8AO9AXwehgat3Z1enEcN4ZuSopGF4qsQ Xv+SJH9Czb0/LGjgY8dGlcvVQ/rxHh7N8HGrt+r0G4dkQsJDr9g6HSQbaW+46wU= =NGrV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 7 01:06:46 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:06:46 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Charly, Patrick, this is Charly's debug output: enigmail> /usr/local/bin/gpg2 --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 --keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve --keyserver keyserver.linux.it -d gpg: Signature made Tue May 6 02:40:11 2008 EDT using DSA key ID C7DD29ED gpg: BAD signature from "Olav Seyfarth (privat) " enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution So he is using gpg2 - but I don't understand the -d in the command line since this message was not encrypted but to be verified. Since these problems only occured approximately after the release of Thunderbird 2.0.0.14, might it be possible that it is a regression from TB (CR/FL issues)? Charly, to debug, please move aside your program and profile directories and install just a TB 2.0.0.14 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). If it yields the same error, please try with TB 2.0.0.13 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). Maybe specialities about my key / GnuPG / DSA2 settings? Hmmm, see yourself: > list pub 1024D/C7DD29ED erzeugt: 2004-11-13 verf?llt: 2009-12-31 Aufruf: SC Vertrauen: uneingeschr?nkt G?ltigkeit: uneingeschr?nkt sub 2048g/642183AD erzeugt: 2004-11-13 verf?llt: 2009-12-31 Aufruf: E [ uneing.] (1). Olav Seyfarth (privat) [ uneing.] (2) [jpeg image of size 3458] [ uneing.] (3) Olav Seyfarth (Enigmail) > showpref [ uneing.] (1). Olav Seyfarth (privat) Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify [ uneing.] (2) [jpeg image of size 3458] Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify [ uneing.] (3) Olav Seyfarth (Enigmail) Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify gpg.conf: no-greeting enable-dsa2 default-key 0x2FF341B7C7DD29ED encrypt-to 0x2FF341B7C7DD29ED personal-digest-preferences SHA256 SHA512 SHA1 RIPEMD160 SHA224 SHA384 MD5 keyserver-options include-subkeys ask-cert-level import-options repair-pks-subkey-bug import-clean export-options export-clean keyserver x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de I used SHA256 to sign the message in question. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkghYxMACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2GBQCeJZ+OMDKhHP4Wf8ghrEkpOah6 uUoAoKoNRGNfDNCE8wZq+pR8V9BHtOWO =KbUW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 7 02:09:48 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 05:09:48 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482171DC.6000901@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Olav Seyfarth wrote: > Hi Charly, Hi Olav, I am now in Linux Ubuntu 8.04. signature verifies, your picture is there, and the raw source displays: Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > Patrick, this is Charly's debug output: > > enigmail> /usr/local/bin/gpg2 --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 > --keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve --keyserver keyserver.linux.it -d > gpg: Signature made Tue May 6 02:40:11 2008 EDT using DSA key ID C7DD29ED > gpg: BAD signature from "Olav Seyfarth (privat) " > enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > So he is using gpg2 - but I don't understand the -d in the command line since > this message was not encrypted but to be verified. I can use gpg2 2.0.9 or gpg 1.4.9, by changing OpenPGP Preferences. Can this be a cause to the problem I am experiencing? I want to stress once more, and sorry for being a bore, that the problem I have described: signed message is not processed, no warning or error message, just nothing, and it relates *only* to messages that show content type: charset utf-8 and content-transfer encoding base64. > > Since these problems only occured approximately after the release of Thunderbird > 2.0.0.14, might it be possible that it is a regression from TB (CR/FL issues)? I wouldn't know. All other signed messages (except for what I have already indicated) are processed correctly. Most of the time the signature verifies, sometimes it is bad, but there is a result. > > Charly, to debug, please move aside your program and profile directories and > install just a TB 2.0.0.14 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). If it yields the same > error, please try with TB 2.0.0.13 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). I'll do that in MacOSX. Both MacOSX and Linux are running side by side, and are a keyboard shortcut away, no need to reboot. But now I have to leave home and computer for a couple of hours, to fulfill some obligations in the real world :-). I shall back at you as soon as I have carried out the actions you describe. > > Maybe specialities about my key / GnuPG / DSA2 settings? Hmmm, see yourself: > > > list > > pub 1024D/C7DD29ED erzeugt: 2004-11-13 verf?llt: 2009-12-31 Aufruf: SC > Vertrauen: uneingeschr?nkt G?ltigkeit: uneingeschr?nkt > sub 2048g/642183AD erzeugt: 2004-11-13 verf?llt: 2009-12-31 Aufruf: E > [ uneing.] (1). Olav Seyfarth (privat) > [ uneing.] (2) [jpeg image of size 3458] > [ uneing.] (3) Olav Seyfarth (Enigmail) > > > showpref > > [ uneing.] (1). Olav Seyfarth (privat) > Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES > Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 > Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert > Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify > [ uneing.] (2) [jpeg image of size 3458] > Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES > Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 > Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert > Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify > [ uneing.] (3) Olav Seyfarth (Enigmail) > Verschl?.: AES256, AES192, AES, CAST5, 3DES > Digest: SHA1, SHA256, RIPEMD160 > Komprimierung: ZLIB, BZIP2, ZIP, nicht komprimiert > Eigenschaften: MDC, Keyserver no-modify > > gpg.conf: > > no-greeting > enable-dsa2 > default-key 0x2FF341B7C7DD29ED > encrypt-to 0x2FF341B7C7DD29ED > personal-digest-preferences SHA256 SHA512 SHA1 RIPEMD160 SHA224 SHA384 MD5 > keyserver-options include-subkeys > ask-cert-level > import-options repair-pks-subkey-bug import-clean > export-options export-clean > keyserver x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de > > I used SHA256 to sign the message in question. > > Olav > /tmp/gpg-ABAdXF/2FF341B7C7DD29ED.jpg is a 90x120 JPEG image, color space YCbCr, 3 comps, Huffman coding. > Using TrueColor visual > Building XImage...done I am far from being an expert, but I can't find anything unusual in your key "specialties" nor in your gpg.conf. Ninety-nine-comma-ninety-nine percent of your signed messages verify without the least problem. It's only that utf-8 base64 that fails to be processed. Similar messages (utf-8 and base64) from two other forum members fail also. As a matter of fact the message posted by you, that fails, quotes one of the other messages that fail to be processed. Therefore it is possible that there is nothing "wrong" with your key and gpg.conf, and that the issue is with those two forum members who are posting messages with utf-8 *and* base64. I am back as soon as possible. Charly Ubuntu 8.04 (under virtual ware) - GnuPG 1.4.9 - gpg2 2.0.9 - version 2.0.0.14 (20080505) - Enigmail 0.96a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIIXHXAAoJEM3GMi2FW4Pvbd0H/Rby9VkxIwp+8CihgmjAY0St aQE0fMx/IRBlBTr17MMMjw+1+mi99QRQv/1x+NcLvpXUG7zXVeNeKQ6bKw9iQHNx uRDUox/ZyhONj/EkTWpg+0LjJqNaxjSuvJPyEIp88hydnjgEICD9YczjGuaRr3vu 4+Qp9qBPaNamQWsE6z5HsuaRwsc4L6e1ULGxoKs3d/pABgCwVxVap5JfisW29vXg F3aAO2UOhdgkTDTcIjXMF08xO6hcgFyCSsdaVLHR8eGLQwyxbxFnF+NGB2AI5BCv PAy8+FP+vKz8rirnlCcJ7VGEbHnc8/AqJvwas700g4Ea5lewEa98S6+BZe/SEaw= =gyPn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 7 02:43:12 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 11:43:12 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482179B0.6000605@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Olav Seyfarth wrote: > Hi Charly, > > Patrick, this is Charly's debug output: > > enigmail> /usr/local/bin/gpg2 --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 > --keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve --keyserver keyserver.linux.it -d > gpg: Signature made Tue May 6 02:40:11 2008 EDT using DSA key ID C7DD29ED > gpg: BAD signature from "Olav Seyfarth (privat) " > enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > So he is using gpg2 - but I don't understand the -d in the command line since > this message was not encrypted but to be verified. The -d can also be used to verify messages. In fact for signed input data "-d" delivers de-armored output. > Since these problems only occured approximately after the release of Thunderbird > 2.0.0.14, might it be possible that it is a regression from TB (CR/FL issues)? I doubt, and if so it would probably be Mac-specific. > Charly, to debug, please move aside your program and profile directories and > install just a TB 2.0.0.14 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). If it yields the same > error, please try with TB 2.0.0.13 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). I'd rather suggest to try with gpg 1.4.9, and/or to disable the extensions Signature, HE Calendar and TimeStamp. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCF5sHcOpHodsOiwAQJbHwf+JuZQ0ekq3Tau3CXS5QMm7294eXFWJIUa 9VugCvXyIqIg6CqbA+/FPFk6z0UJd8hEFzJUxNJZGBgzIMorMrgLzu3DHySJ38Y6 E68KLeAjac3S+DDuPM3WU+awiTkWV9hF9oXGLXv9FYZJfiy2EGzIvwvIRymWrZZw 9ZPfNP9IzxRIIkGbT3DUOVUjuxISjcxYZgY1/Hb89lgV3PBO+OJyKBPolPtalEs6 qY0MrQov4VWzvEVoR81unjW0ZmO3VWbVINevWQvESojgIE88YqTul5pJMOrH3jjk KHBMxV/T990IsGLApZRMfPz3kq74yl++IjS78R+I882mpZcLihuHAg== =+nG/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 7 04:44:35 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 07:44:35 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail bug or failure in my system? In-Reply-To: <482179B0.6000605@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <48206DBD.4010800@mac.com> <48214C21.8010502@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482153FC.1020907@mac.com> <48215A97.5020703@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48216316.2070205@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482179B0.6000605@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48219623.9030702@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/7/08 5:43 AM: [...] > The -d can also be used to verify messages. In fact for signed input > data "-d" delivers de-armored output. > >> Since these problems only occured approximately after the release of Thunderbird >> 2.0.0.14, might it be possible that it is a regression from TB (CR/FL issues)? > > I doubt, and if so it would probably be Mac-specific. > >> Charly, to debug, please move aside your program and profile directories and >> install just a TB 2.0.0.14 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). If it yields the same >> error, please try with TB 2.0.0.13 + EM 0.95.6 (release version). > > I'd rather suggest to try with gpg 1.4.9, and/or to disable the > extensions Signature, HE Calendar and TimeStamp. Patrick, I have done that (1.4.9 and/or disable those three extensions all together, each at a time), no change. About using 1.4.9 rather than 2.0.9, I didn't expect any change, because as I reported previously, Eudora+Chang's AppleScripts uses 1.4.9 (1.4.*) by default. I have checked approximately 50 signed messages in Enigmail, gnupg-users, and other archives, and there are, definitely (in my e-mail archives, of course), *only 3* e-mails that cannot be processed in TB+Enigmail (but that can be processed in two different systems), and all of those three have in common: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: base64 (BTW, my assumption that base64 means rows of 64 characters was wrong: I have found out that 76 characters rows are OK) I have also searched the web as well as Mozilla's knowledge base for occurrences of base64, found , that does not seem to be directly related to the above described problem, but that still points at versions prior to TB 2*. I very much appreciate the time and efforts you and Olav have put into helping me with this issue. I prefer to leave things has they are, but if/when I received a new e-mail with the same characteristics, I shall check it in Linux, and report what happens there. Those three "affected" e-mails are not present in my Linux system's archives. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (Darwin) Comment: GnuPG for Privacy Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIIZYgAAoJEM3GMi2FW4PvZuwIAJ8sr8Xu/LwoAsOAFTueWPuv vijadRJAKa0eBdNcYzJS2JOCIuLVvv/UArCzCoTd6UqF0dSYFIymoajoyzHfsJWc AbzOGHunJwveN3fJIQ4AX++CDsjXOaSYU+C//iLwBYIyVmQbVpnBezMgIRhVCUJY xxCBjpAzwkrPexwfb2Xrg8qAC4xvRG6F7A1vQA4ksgqiqZIiZ5BcSf0Nw4DXvo1N JbrCPeHFk9m/8FVS+PJP1ALHNCHzVbUpG+Nj3tog+In4m3ZniBOWdsQVup/AAMkU 6u5alVARrhn9RaeoHWf01OHzEHvz80grmwtEYZtSYdmw3/0A5qXvJGx6Gf0zUzc= =2L6I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fjbrandt at gmail.com Thu May 8 21:22:09 2008 From: fjbrandt at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=E1bio_Brandt?=) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 01:22:09 -0300 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail first test Message-ID: <4823D171.9010107@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is my first time using enigmail so I apreciate your help. Sorry my English skills... Thanks, F?bio -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFII9Fxvrpeurztia4RAsmLAJ9P0V67SfcoR0/Kd3odjAvElaeBkQCfZM2S hpdHj1TOHg4PSdhIbtfwgm4= =W7Hv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Thu May 8 23:30:04 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:30:04 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail first test In-Reply-To: <4823D171.9010107@gmail.com> References: <4823D171.9010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4823EF6C.5000903@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi F?bio, > This is my first time using enigmail so I apreciate your help. > Sorry my English skills... I could download your key and your signature verifies fine. All set up. If you need someone to test encryption, please feel free to send me a private message (not to the list, please!). Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgj72wACgkQL/NBt8fdKe3s6ACeOqauetCrbhXklrPs5Pme0sv1 f/cAoKrby2cl8NdRr8YJ2/Q5krt2beQh =kDh7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Thu May 8 23:33:20 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 02:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail first test In-Reply-To: <4823D171.9010107@gmail.com> References: <4823D171.9010107@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4823F030.1030104@mac.com> F?bio Brandt wrote the following on 5/9/08 12:22 AM: > Hi, > > This is my first time using enigmail so I apreciate your help. > Sorry my English skills... > > Thanks, > > F?bio Hi F?bio, Welcome Your signature verifies: OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from F?bio Brandt Key ID: 0xBCED89AE / Signed on: 5/9/08 12:22 AM Key fingerprint: DC44 AD31 EF23 CE69 5C53 551C BEBA 5EBA BCED 89AE You are running: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728). Please note that Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 is available. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From sghconnolly at o2.co.uk Fri May 9 08:16:13 2008 From: sghconnolly at o2.co.uk (Shay Connolly) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:16:13 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only Message-ID: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just installed and set this up and am just trying to run a test! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgkar0ACgkQpZb/KoXFqrucqACfTXWLic5iRxgf1yTb1wVOWxhP lBcAnRL41X+gZkldy81i2Zoisg+zBHDr =UuQO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Fri May 9 10:59:44 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:59:44 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only In-Reply-To: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> References: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Shay Connolly escribi?: > Just installed and set this up and am just trying to run a test! It is working fine. If you want to test encrypted messages, you can send one to me. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIJJEQAAoJEIISGkVDGUEO1KkIAKMWfKMBRaI3MlRkKy+JmmZW cIbzMUTT53by1nTC25OeVH2BW4mlrS/vomakEgdZXeyC/t17pqUtuu159vislZhS vDC0j1jl+5cmoQQPPrP7Qfjp6Y9CDUNDMlHDNUK1ptHW/f3XllQ8Sh2Ka8emmsNf QdkOomA8LklFQn2z56U2s3/lV70shIoCaonFJM7G+Ctca1rf028svodrHObMNnls eZC068ajF4Y7ridx8BOkHfUi5uTSSKDMSI8nvP9Z9Zj1rJqrJL1M9q3UD7hDw3iB XIPSYgMBA2SY5Pu05qdZSKbByexjQmnb1pIMfl9M3f0hPhih2Ew0llXamBeFyXE= =73dl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0x4319410E.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 3674 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080509/bd864708/attachment.bin From sghconnolly at o2.co.uk Fri May 9 09:21:46 2008 From: sghconnolly at o2.co.uk (Shay Connolly) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 17:21:46 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only In-Reply-To: <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> References: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48247A1A.3030302@o2.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Charset: UTF-8 Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org hQIOAzHqMLfxGc0UEAf6AjX9KtzS5ooZZ56zQ6aCqtsNfCLXIlzkyIT+qfWgXPX1 xQ4ldMnWuAI6PpwWFvyab+knxiANVGLBYztCbVExZaB5k0dfijs0buC8y0zjyViC Ivf5lTj+w81tJ7xtci++sT1sN7yT/0cnOodO4hpy5bVXPfzJE5FzNwjsfwOmHEhN XP3LkMoHRRwVKI8VXtslUcoyclKFIcfdaXpXsOcsdnfCwkvb/1LUQ+dXutNKg5D+ EyJG1fWMA241T/4K6Jf+rX0qp3uDCjH1HkbEQOBuEKSpbh8icXca9I7AefQ0+rAl SuVdqIruminA9HCXqF6VRxDtxXn22ZY7fTeIKL9RTwf/fpNMrEL1D6qlwAAfrrpl v5nUkh40Cu0lpHoy2i/JoX8gLW9hD9EhS0KfZt3YxV3Eagx5BRkFQCQN87swbgUy Nuv4BBT+tsCPC3X3AlQMkRjDg3x7iNlrTyeajJYtjapxBbsnsZS7d/gOGf+hpw3Q 1pDaBoOQkRxMVI/posSphruAHC8Ox8X5z7DVBQ16O34er2fGvWmksmuKpggKhYuL /XqW3jjFTV1eMDWHt+ophh95kpFTaLPqp9g94xp96vbe1tvb9QZxpbIRjqaDxJ09 o33SlG3X+a0Qqd/TkNV8c3u+F6oNnU/axetMOUEAFVm+fOWfRA5PRiDn0QuLymDX 59LBEAE1hGEN3/pJ/JFfMIP2MgjlvjY328LXE3ONzIZob7cbjx+Ld+p/NSl9y7KI 6LOzj1OtSZEZsjGHSLfu8ptpiaIVZ9jf69+CQ+5X0Api220g5gMEHX4ikLDvQTlR LNIbcycvcwjDSHQjZSB3ukZNg1tv0XghNFaB+hCU2BKm4giqwqj60Di0SVpsTLov aUXTTVIOjg9hoH1+HQFpE1PX0rHFoBUTFTQbbJgdsLzwYs08ivCFeFPeIM/eeanK SWX9Xsf06VqCIUqEABAmdF6zrcMx22O2C4CQj1J9dkSxnof5z7U68NQcYmpKquUT B0WcKc9zi/rbFO+5K5cpbGUmXM/g00IAOHnCgH+dc9aPKAUpHFbGI3NU0jEaGEXZ GLcW4EdbySEnLWPgeICV+PQ/5DdJKwgqOzWqE0PjNU8FCakqArXDUqShBUg44n4x WcU7ZG9POqCGLvTlnogRCrjUog2bjWNh6uM7/oQLhQ4EjKhC9vfbNR71Xt9wS9hi 4x2D46HlcNElDF05FVNiknsulkqm8FzWI5N0Qy+JL3hTRrJ8ia1HnyMBnftbz8cp QlDIXx2wzEiRdHS59UVgq5tguk3fXWA4jJLnbJg85AM4c6Ym =yjrp -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Fri May 9 11:29:14 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?UTF-8?B?THVkd2lnIEjDvGdlbHNjaMOkZmVy?=) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 20:29:14 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only In-Reply-To: <48247A1A.3030302@o2.co.uk> References: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> <48247A1A.3030302@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: <482497FA.2090107@hammernoch.net> Hi, Shay Connolly wrote on 09.05.2008 18:21 Uhr: > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > Charset: UTF-8 > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > Please do not send encrypted messages to the list. Nobody can read the plaintext-message except you. Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080509/ca774a32/attachment.bin From sghconnolly at o2.co.uk Fri May 9 10:46:51 2008 From: sghconnolly at o2.co.uk (Shay Connolly) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:46:51 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only In-Reply-To: <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> References: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48248E0B.8090802@o2.co.uk> How do I sign your key? Faramir wrote: > Shay Connolly escribi?: > > Just installed and set this up and am just trying to run a test! > > It is working fine. If you want to test encrypted messages, you can > send one to me. > ------------------------- _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -- Shay Connolly sghconnolly at o2.co.uk From shavital at mac.com Fri May 9 15:45:34 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:45:34 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail test - Signed only In-Reply-To: <48247A1A.3030302@o2.co.uk> References: <48246ABD.6030200@o2.co.uk> <48249110.6070803@gmail.com> <48247A1A.3030302@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: <4824D40E.6080109@mac.com> Shay Connolly wrote the following on 5/9/08 12:21 PM: > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > Charset: UTF-8 > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > hQIOAzHqMLfxGc0UEAf6AjX9KtzS5ooZZ56zQ6aCqtsNfCLXIlzkyIT+qfWgXPX1 > xQ4ldMnWuAI6PpwWFvyab+knxiANVGLBYztCbVExZaB5k0dfijs0buC8y0zjyViC Hi, You don't encrypt postings to a list. If you intended to send a test encrypted message to a list subscriber, you should have: - addressed the e-mail to that subscriber *only* - use the subscriber's public to encrypt, *in addition* to your own public key. For this, you should set or edit 'Per-recipient Rules' to match that subscriber's e-mail address *and* public key. No problem, and welcome. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From davethould at fastmail.fm Sat May 10 12:17:30 2008 From: davethould at fastmail.fm (David Thould) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:17:30 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) Message-ID: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, this is my first attempt at sending a signed message. Could somebody tell me if I am on the right tracks? Thanks! Dave. :-) - -- ~ ,___, ~ (9v9) ~ (_^((\ ~ ^^^"^" \\^^^^ ~ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ~ Wisdom & Compassion -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgl9MoACgkQJO/Coz4psKn7mwCdEfAhgrcfAy4Y+h+Fdk7kzgJv rqsAn1/Hv2ah9KaSiHfkdUywBnBBBmBa =d7R/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From oberon at qwest.net Sat May 10 12:20:33 2008 From: oberon at qwest.net (Oberon) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:20:33 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Thould wrote: | Hello, this is my first attempt at sending a signed message. Could | somebody tell me if I am on the right tracks? Thanks! Dave. :-) Looking good: OpenPGP Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from David Thould Key ID: 0x3E29B0A9 / Signed on: 5/10/2008 2:17 PM Key fingerprint: 3730 A61B 96E6 0C73 2698 5206 24EF C2A3 3E29 B0A9 - -- You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. - --------------------------------------------------------------- Go ahead and criticize. My concept of reality is mostly guess- work anyway. - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIJfWBSJ7e4CqUgM0RAhEZAJ468+2xYsx8slwuKMgTYkY5Np10aQCfZLrm 6iZJy5m7eVVpvhmnXMqGzT8= =wa1j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From davethould at fastmail.fm Sat May 10 12:25:12 2008 From: davethould at fastmail.fm (David Thould) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:25:12 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> Message-ID: <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for your help Oberon wrote: | David Thould wrote: | | | Hello, this is my first attempt at sending a signed message. Could | | somebody tell me if I am on the right tracks? Thanks! Dave. :-) | | Looking good: | | OpenPGP Security Info | | UNTRUSTED Good signature from David Thould | Key ID: 0x3E29B0A9 / Signed on: 5/10/2008 2:17 PM | Key fingerprint: 3730 A61B 96E6 0C73 2698 5206 24EF C2A3 3E29 B0A9 | | | _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail - -- ~ ,___, ~ (9v9) ~ (_^((\ ~ ^^^"^" \\^^^^ ~ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ~ Wisdom & Compassion -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgl9pgACgkQJO/Coz4psKkLRQCfd8/4Cfiq8qIJUptsIvYcf4Tb QfUAn3adxMp22vNHmDubEiueliD0GYGd =z+/7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From postmanisonline at googlemail.com Sun May 11 07:59:23 2008 From: postmanisonline at googlemail.com (Heinz Benner) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 16:59:23 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing preferences Message-ID: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hallo out there, i've just followed the tutorial on http://enigmail.mozdev.org for the first time. So, is there anybody who can verify my preferences? Thanks for your help! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIJwnLxx2kYKWJku0RAnQpAJwPYO66F1R7uNwG9C+ZZLbNsrAe5gCggDFO Xb3aJIlbu1ydg59H0Nxm+g4= =0W/N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Sun May 11 08:38:46 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:38:46 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing preferences In-Reply-To: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> References: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <48271306.7050508@mac.com> Heinz Benner wrote: > Hallo out there, > > i've just followed the tutorial on http://enigmail.mozdev.org for the > first time. > > So, is there anybody who can verify my preferences? > > Thanks for your help! Can't find your public key on keyservers. Did you upload it? Charly MacOSX 10.5.2 - Ubuntu 8.04 (under virtual ware) - GnuPG 1.4.9 - gpg2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 11 09:24:18 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:24:18 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing preferences In-Reply-To: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> References: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <48271DB2.9010005@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Heinz Benner wrote: > Hallo out there, > > i've just followed the tutorial on http://enigmail.mozdev.org for the > first time. > > So, is there anybody who can verify my preferences? Preferences? I'd be glad to provide a Signature Verification report & run --pref or --showpref on Your Key but I'll need to Import Your Key to accomplish either one. :-\ Under 'Preferences' for Enigmail/OpenPGP please place hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net in the lower/bottom box on the 'Keyserver' Tab. [make sure 'Display Expert Settings' box is checked on the 1st Tab] Then Upload/Send Your Key to the Keyserver. Alternatively, please provide a Link to where Your Key may be found. You may do this either by adding a Comment Line to Your .options File or by going to 'Account Settings' > 'OpenPGP' and placing the Link in the box there which will place the Link in Your Email Header. ;) You can also designate a 'Preferred Keyserver' within Your Key Preferences but the above 2 suggestions are more simple. :) The last method would be to Send Me Your Key directly using the Email Address in the 'From:' field of this missive. JOHN 8-) Timestamp: Sunday 11 May 2008, 12:24 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIJx2wAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPHmAH/AkzzKQx0dohg08MfVXs03xj lylb5kq4feKCvRrkR04XIPfTJKHWvrhAepvS0bq0Bn6whFJIzvCeuMB4m5Nz0wap y26s0ggEUubIOL9C5TWUqv6s1jObfZ1FCJYDFQaMFwGogKB0PXZKxPV1ZhCYwAUg sLYFi59RBq36c6YRRbyRPWfUzkzv2tj4Xb1yKhf6mYrmyswnJwRVg+5iaNw7pidV +R7cQS2gV37FtKea2oWjZyw9pvDapWEzIuRBw6lGVATafr450qL+To4Vs7A0CJKJ 5BzUmG68vI0KkzD082s3OlGmgX36kfxuTIz4z/E8pCyiJ82sX0CL3lMGCtc7kwY= =1K7J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From postmanisonline at googlemail.com Sun May 11 12:06:02 2008 From: postmanisonline at googlemail.com (Heinz Benner) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:06:02 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing preferences In-Reply-To: <48271DB2.9010005@bellsouth.net> References: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> <48271DB2.9010005@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4827439A.1010805@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hallo and thanks for fast replying my mail. I tried again to load the key to the server... I've used hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net, like before. I hope u can find the key there now. Bye. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIJ0Oaxx2kYKWJku0RAjd4AJ4uYt95fMZ/xTNFeHqJ/qiecv21eQCfYzPe azBX6PNNCnk0e+OGSXzM7eI= =tb9P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 11 12:27:29 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:27:29 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing preferences In-Reply-To: <4827439A.1010805@googlemail.com> References: <482709CB.3020303@googlemail.com> <48271DB2.9010005@bellsouth.net> <4827439A.1010805@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <482748A1.6030002@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Heinz Benner escribi?: > Hallo and thanks for fast replying my mail. > > I tried again to load the key to the server... > > I've used hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net, like before. > I hope u can find the key there now. > > Bye. Yes, it worked perfectly. Both messages have good signature. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIJ0ihAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOEWsH/3AYv3asYYxlb99O7QeU0UxT 9JDaeKhrFk1DrM5VIdVIG0QUnD10UlONanLGOHTl8Yj2JIsutIMT5wnTV7NgznCP LruVVuzOZ8UwsTPAn7FkE48lWot0APj1vF/8O1+PdwEslCan0ShwgclawW9WKPBL r7T5qk9fJW42u+PaVnPJaFyHaJfSnq08ks2KpIjGSbP9YmYVX69Qko7126/fFLSa QTEFKMWB6hPNcKleghG8JwF35GiIwpiB/8V3uyXqbqFvPrBEPJeynK9pvlKTcT7R ZebMoKButWNvxRTJJi5lv9f2+mAcC1bYwV8rHI9qgh52k4cokArI2RIywnk38x4= =nGJD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sghconnolly at o2.co.uk Sun May 11 22:12:29 2008 From: sghconnolly at o2.co.uk (Shay Connolly) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 06:12:29 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> Hi there Works OK here and signing was confirmed David Thould wrote: > Thanks for your help > > Oberon wrote: > | David Thould wrote: > | > | | Hello, this is my first attempt at sending a signed message. Could > | | somebody tell me if I am on the right tracks? Thanks! Dave. :-) > | > | Looking good: > | > | OpenPGP Security Info > | > | UNTRUSTED Good signature from David Thould > | Key ID: 0x3E29B0A9 / Signed on: 5/10/2008 2:17 PM > | Key fingerprint: 3730 A61B 96E6 0C73 2698 5206 24EF C2A3 3E29 B0A9 > | > | > | > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -- Shay Connolly sghconnolly at o2.co.uk Mob: 07843 415987 Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 Enigmail version 0.95.6 From davethould at fastmail.fm Mon May 12 01:23:39 2008 From: davethould at fastmail.fm (David Thould) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: <4827FE8B.1020900@fastmail.fm> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: encrypted.asc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4146 bytes Desc: OpenPGP encrypted message Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080512/e64206fc/attachment.obj From faramir.cl at gmail.com Mon May 12 01:43:54 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 04:43:54 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4827FE8B.1020900@fastmail.fm> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> <4827FE8B.1020900@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <4828034A.5080402@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 You can't send an encrypted message to the list, nobody will be able to decrypt it and read it... If you want to send an encrypted message to Mr.X, you need the public key of Mr.X, you encrypt the message using that key, and Mr.X will decrypt it using his private key... So only the owner of the private key that matches the public key you used to encrypt the message can access it. Maybe you was trying to sign it, and you signed and encrypted it? Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIKANKAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOcPwH/iDPs2YhoWkKesWFEp38WmIW hvgOqLpzYLij1FbENEq1srPBcDs71smY5sczuN7vgvNQkY0NZRGlJI1272Iu7sw6 xyqUjdMdcm5sJnAhqjsl18Yu2DBbi1Pcs1MrCcX2pP059a41/1wZNuJfiGOUj/Xb MgBKRTCL7n1N6rHkJ4KTacT+n5BbhXLqjyGPWEeyAqk3goSmGoVpfAa+KyHrxds2 mmV26+y3MPL2Zhn0P2NfDJwlRpQsXSMhC9sqOjFqXLl0sKF97uAAfQOG8mctObkk R62VoiXERtmLZPETq4WvcyRDHxMGh/BewbsDm9nhWPyAKuvXTNmpDznBUKqGfCo= =FWrx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From davethould at fastmail.fm Mon May 12 07:55:04 2008 From: davethould at fastmail.fm (David Thould) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:55:04 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing a signed message ;-) In-Reply-To: <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> References: <4825F4CA.2090807@fastmail.fm> <4825F581.7020701@qwest.net> <4825F698.1070702@fastmail.fm> <4827D1BD.1070701@o2.co.uk> Message-ID: <48285A48.8040404@fastmail.fm> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Sorry about that I messed up my reply to you; encrypted it then sent it to the discussion list. :-( Anyhow all seems well now, thanks for your time... Dave. :-) - -- publictimestamp.org/ptb/PTB-3224 haval 2008-05-12 12:00:06 39AA345CF5CEDAA5A08190D374360158 Shay Connolly wrote: | Hi there | | Works OK here and signing was confirmed | | | David Thould wrote: |> Thanks for your help |> |> Oberon wrote: |> | David Thould wrote: |> | |> | | Hello, this is my first attempt at sending a signed message. Could |> | | somebody tell me if I am on the right tracks? Thanks! Dave. :-) |> | |> | Looking good: |> | |> | OpenPGP Security Info |> | |> | UNTRUSTED Good signature from David Thould |> | Key ID: 0x3E29B0A9 / Signed on: 5/10/2008 2:17 PM |> | Key fingerprint: 3730 A61B 96E6 0C73 2698 5206 24EF C2A3 3E29 B0A9 |> | |> | |> | |> |> _______________________________________________ |> Enigmail mailing list |> Enigmail at mozdev.org |> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail |> | _______________________________________________ | Enigmail mailing list | Enigmail at mozdev.org | https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgoWkgACgkQJO/Coz4psKm/JgCgmW+p7QgvnTKSJm08Vzb/TgqY l3wAnRqTvRe8S3cgcHcExVRjKWffOuIi =TZPR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 10:09:20 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:09:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key Message-ID: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> Hi, After testing both Enigmail versions: In 0.96a the command, from menu, 'Attach My Public Key' does not attach the key block file: no 'Attachments:' field is displayed anywhere. Command 'Attach Public Key...' displays available keys, making it possible to manually select the required key. Clicking OK displays the key file in the 'Attachments:' field. In 0.95.6, command 'Attach my Public Key' displays correctly the required key block file, inside the 'Attachments:' field. Is this a bug? Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 From mlisten at hammernoch.net Mon May 12 11:23:36 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:23:36 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> Message-ID: <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> Hi, Charly Avital wrote on 12.05.2008 19:09 Uhr: > Hi, > > After testing both Enigmail versions: > > In 0.96a the command, from menu, 'Attach My Public Key' does not attach > the key block file: no 'Attachments:' field is displayed anywhere. > Command 'Attach Public Key...' displays available keys, making it > possible to manually select the required key. Clicking OK displays the > key file in the 'Attachments:' field. > > > In 0.95.6, command 'Attach my Public Key' displays correctly the > required key block file, inside the 'Attachments:' field. The Enigmail nightly (0.96a) displays the attachment when you click on "Send". Don't know about 0.95.6, as I never used this feature when I had 0.95.6 installed. Greetings Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080512/a64de194/attachment.bin From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 11:35:25 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:35:25 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/12/08 2:23 PM: [...] > The Enigmail nightly (0.96a) displays the attachment when you click on > "Send". Before I posted, I self-tested repeatedly 0.96a, after marking 'Attach My Public Key' in Menu/OpenPGP. No attachment was displayed when clicking on Send, and no attachment was received. But I'll test again. Don't know about 0.95.6, as I never used this feature when I had > 0.95.6 installed. Works impeccably. Cheers, Charly From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 11:53:32 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:53:32 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <4828922C.5050308@mac.com> Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/12/08 2:23 PM: [...] > The Enigmail nightly (0.96a) displays the attachment when you click on > "Send". [...] Tested again, with a "fresh" download and install of "Thunderbird Trunk / Seamonkey Trunk (Gecko 1.9) on Mac OS X (Universal Binary)", from http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php. No change, no attachment. Charly From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Mon May 12 12:32:29 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:32:29 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key Message-ID: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Charly Avital wrote: > > > > Tested again, with a "fresh" download and install of "Thunderbird Trunk > > / Seamonkey Trunk (Gecko 1.9) on Mac OS X (Universal Binary)", from > > http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php. > > > > No change, no attachment. On Tb 2.0.0.15pre [Branch] I experience no problems. Perhaps it is due to the interplay between Enigmail & the 3.0 Trunk. :-\ JOHN :-\ Timestamp: Monday 12 May 2008, 15:27 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIKJtLAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPLv0H/AgEFDST28M4c8xBPKtj4gDn Q+5a9Eh+4DWI3DHokKG7nAcH3Rx+OxLAkJ+eI9+582JGB4ZGKD6ZYGfbrftW+7JE tuf7NyOR7up+4mjoaBEWD8ovw5kxFYzNfOVU235Owbemj8c+k9I9g1AZoDfWUzqk 66izjWvKhWXq6VqCt91p0TME3V93vbh3VpKwvYOFhtRpEW8oN3TXwv5lAKTVLkQV 7V3+gV5sbgMeB4iCCTN+Y5DRh6QPfdcyjktm7TLLLA6pR4qKcBjOX9jB5vTgGy42 7tccCqs7I+h3jo+j46HGe0WADJcWasjs4CpFyI7gAWcFWS9K8Zhlgp/CDVTowwc= =qFFt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 14:20:23 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 17:20:23 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4828B497.1020202@mac.com> John W. Moore III wrote the following on 5/12/08 3:32 PM: [...] > On Tb 2.0.0.15pre [Branch] I experience no problems. Perhaps it is due > to the interplay between Enigmail & the 3.0 Trunk. :-\ Possible. I'll give 2.0.0.15 a try. Thanks, John. Charly From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 22:53:59 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 01:53:59 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 John W. Moore III wrote the following on 5/12/08 3:32 PM: > Charly Avital wrote: >>> Tested again, with a "fresh" download and install of "Thunderbird Trunk >>> / Seamonkey Trunk (Gecko 1.9) on Mac OS X (Universal Binary)", from >>> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php. >>> >>> No change, no attachment. > > On Tb 2.0.0.15pre [Branch] I experience no problems. Perhaps it is due > to the interplay between Enigmail & the 3.0 Trunk. :-\ > > JOHN :-\ > Timestamp: Monday 12 May 2008, 15:27 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) 1. The following applies both to PPC and Intel laptops. Thunderbird version 3.0a2pre (2008051203) - Enigmail 0.96a (enigmail-trunk-tb-darwin-x86-ppc-trunk.xpi). Clicking OpenPGP will crash Thunderbird. Therefore all the options under OpenPGP are inaccessible (including 'Attach My Public Key'). Nevertheless, in Tools/Addons/Enigmail 0.96a clicking the Preferences button displays OpenPGP Preferences. 2. As reported previously, Enigmail 0.96a with Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 performs correctly on an Intel Macbook, excepting the 'Attach My Public Key' issue. But on a PPC Powerbook, Enigmail 0.96a is not accepted by Thunderbird 2.0.0.14. Charly >From Thunderbird 3.0a2pre with 0.96a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (Darwin) Comment: GnuPG for Privacy Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIKSzxAAoJEM3GMi2FW4PvZzgH/0dMNfAtyfTfT0drURfA2K3g ybLeN5xYAP+gY90FmrXbC0oj7WenUfkcln1LyZiM8zqaXafthjzePUuDTqnPMqL5 HoHAzQVYCUBQ6hcFE1KcKC6yI1fKAWuaF472d4PYJmk8Y2fHNPyZMohLw2KCwpaS 2KwMLS2AXU2z+poHFWThjiXDFkt9uqE9skJXAl52wjt6d6AUw7ucg0NwnPZeMQlS d0wjlTx9exCoqlzSzZD7eaOtRntlxBd58QEYFn3rfc23fjHnF5UeWYwUGJvM5ApU aNiSu+w1Z1zPdD9nsx4v3UYI2UlAvU3UZwIUZuXrqqh7rMCqS5zAP//a6O3v2h0= =qhU5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Mon May 12 23:02:51 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:51 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Redux Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <48292F0B.5050905@mac.com> Yes, I know the signature was bad on my previous e-mail. [...] Charly >From Thunderbird 3.0a2pre with 0.96a From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Tue May 13 01:35:31 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:35:31 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> Message-ID: <482952D3.8060806@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Hi, > > After testing both Enigmail versions: > > In 0.96a the command, from menu, 'Attach My Public Key' does not attach > the key block file: no 'Attachments:' field is displayed anywhere. > Command 'Attach Public Key...' displays available keys, making it > possible to manually select the required key. Clicking OK displays the > key file in the 'Attachments:' field. > > > In 0.95.6, command 'Attach my Public Key' displays correctly the > required key block file, inside the 'Attachments:' field. > > Is this a bug? The attachment is no more displayed, but attached "silently", just like "Attach Personal Card (vCard)" works. Instead of showing the attachment, the the "Attach my public key" function is now ticked. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSClS03cOpHodsOiwAQIFjQf/a1vYmulzw/NsddQGLkQkdQ3JDAJ7f8w0 zRHaoDr3VzImlA7Zpn2wYZlgyXav6GqzsZEEqlod7OOu+tbVxqphOZhIKXCL4evy dOOXb3I5+5Yo1mW2Bjqb+gTU+Nm9Pb4gAUtwSW/rLXrDSfzCTAhVmqKnY9x29Ywk iwEBukLZRbDsog7zs8zoLWpXwpgbJ71vIrWRR0WzEWkb6Jw8r4Vgb9zawj+vKEJB atCtgVLeHl23qXEzJnbkHZbBgJIPGqKgqy/2jO5e7iyR8jChlFg4SoX8xJK/UY4h WYv+gUjDCpOgsCEXa6Hs0gUlBtXEos5LymB17T7opFdwvIvFI3/qLQ== =MgCM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From islafuente at gmail.com Tue May 13 03:20:47 2008 From: islafuente at gmail.com (isabel User) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:20:47 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] heeeeelloooo Message-ID: <48296B7F.8040400@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello! I am new at Linux and this is a sample signed message. Is there anyone willing to help me test Enigmail's encryption features? Thanks! Isa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKWt/ylRF8zo8l0wRAkhLAKCcIZDPIWJpGEdMn9sXXvz66jmPZQCfSfQk nSYdT30F9bhORCph/7zoRLQ= =58OQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ramon.loureiro at upf.edu Tue May 13 04:05:06 2008 From: ramon.loureiro at upf.edu (Ramon Loureiro) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:05:06 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] heeeeelloooo In-Reply-To: <48296B7F.8040400@gmail.com> References: <48296B7F.8040400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <482975E2.9010402@upf.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 isabel User escribi?: | Hello! | I am new at Linux and this is a sample signed message. | Is there anyone willing to help me test Enigmail's encryption features? Hi! I've received your msg perfectly signed! saludos! ___ ramon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) iQEVAwUBSCl14MVZKsuAx9ZHAQL5rAf/Vx2YlMdi/0KzR5vr5cXSHFf5TDlUEHZg IoCanZsZlzz000dDzgy47KrsnqjhTsmANSZnXKLdrYLNCi24IJFUmQNSVL9lQtrO pZsDbDQ3EZNFNqp6LlEEG1WNal5/j5ugPtwJiB3/fLHJpHDxWZTiScjdIbiaxhnF 3fbHe8H0PQy125ZVelj/zoJGNYmgGYq3mbiLHMNI3mVsFd3II1UwvY75sXgjNsMY PLs6t0RV1C4zbGnsXVAW+JTpodByjm9KbBshHicsUtwLzqMpQiPrekGh0SzPkBHQ hzlaVE69cHbd9y9O2Jl/rsigZBE2Ve0Xgvevme1AkiX8mRfL/kgBtQ== =IJXD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Tue May 13 04:15:38 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:15:38 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> Message-ID: <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> Hello together, Charly Avital wrote on 13.05.2008 7:53 Uhr: (...) > 1. The following applies both to PPC and Intel laptops. > > Thunderbird version 3.0a2pre (2008051203) - Enigmail 0.96a > (enigmail-trunk-tb-darwin-x86-ppc-trunk.xpi). > > Clicking OpenPGP will crash Thunderbird. Therefore all the options under > OpenPGP are inaccessible (including 'Attach My Public Key'). TB trunk (aka 3.0a2pre right now) together with Enigmail trunk is broken since several months, at least on the Mac. Every some weeks I'll test this combination to see how much progress the TB development has experienced, but so far no success. There is a red warning on http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php: > This is work in progress. Use these automatically built packages are > AT YOUR OWN RISK. > As these nightly builds are not free from errors, it is possible that > Enigmail doesn't work properly. Problem reports are welcome, but will > not have the urgency of problems reported against a release build. This should say enough. When you are testing nightly builds of TB then one should be aware that anything can happen, including data corruption in the TB profile. This is why I use this combination only within a test account with a test profile. My mails and my general TB setup are too valuable for me to risk losing them. Greetings Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080513/f53c5360/attachment.bin From shavital at mac.com Tue May 13 05:16:23 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <48298697.6000803@mac.com> Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/13/08 7:15 AM: [...] > > TB trunk (aka 3.0a2pre right now) together with Enigmail trunk is broken > since several months, at least on the Mac. Every some weeks I'll test > this combination to see how much progress the TB development has > experienced, but so far no success. > > There is a red warning on > > http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php: > >> This is work in progress. Use these automatically built packages are >> AT YOUR OWN RISK. >> As these nightly builds are not free from errors, it is possible that >> Enigmail doesn't work properly. Problem reports are welcome, but will >> not have the urgency of problems reported against a release build. > > This should say enough. I have seen and read the red warning, it says enough, and I am not complaining, only reporting. > When you are testing nightly builds of TB then > one should be aware that anything can happen, including data corruption > in the TB profile. I am aware that anything can happen, but if I don't test, I don't know. You remember that you sent me, directly, 0.96a, I tested it and reported. > This is why I use this combination only within a test > account with a test profile. My mails and my general TB setup are too > valuable for me to risk losing them. There are also valuable for me, and this is why I keep backups of the stable settings. But, on second thought, maybe I should test less. I am back to TB 2.0.0.14 and Enigmail 0.95.6 Regards, Charly From faramir.cl at gmail.com Tue May 13 06:02:00 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:02:00 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48298697.6000803@mac.com> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> <48298697.6000803@mac.com> Message-ID: <48299148.30804@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital escribi?: > Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/13/08 7:15 AM: >> This is why I use this combination only within a test >> account with a test profile. My mails and my general TB setup are too >> valuable for me to risk losing them. > > There are also valuable for me, and this is why I keep backups of the > stable settings. That is a good advice, even if you were not doing risky tests. As end user I appreciate what developers and testers do, so, be careful... I am sure there are backup utilities for whatever platform you are using (a couple of clicks, and the backups is updated an safe). Good luck.. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIKZFIAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOjr4H/28+qfUNEzJjV2VGHnZ/vPos 5M5lx73hQkzNXZ/vhkGOQQsZwqO0rGwq71ADHXfWBYKnm+Xn2g8YQxwZuiqJNwA9 BmqslfwpHE/LcmqIEHClUz1MJSS2zTV1ZEBgR2pD4oGGCwXFuyuUNd7e4wMyOwKs TZcP/eFSr0QhYBv8FpvRNCgvzQNEw26jL6hJqm7PBkTptQtANilyu9egUhaBNuGL DDUh6367pxY5ib4JWgFaPi2qB5Hh1SoH3otVfvk1+y0OwP1kaC+cp3stvjyMVGcF Esl0edDcwolWqP2QkIgMkqLp5BWVc760FCSknZ7h9JleWFWeCPQrQoY5tRUgcAg= =qeBB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Tue May 13 06:01:37 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 15:01:37 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48298697.6000803@mac.com> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> <48298697.6000803@mac.com> Message-ID: <48299131.9010508@hammernoch.net> Charly Avital wrote on 13.05.2008 14:16 Uhr: > You remember that you sent me, directly, 0.96a, I tested it and reported. To clarify: Both the enigmail nightly for TB 2 and the enigmail nightly for TB trunk (3.02a) carry the version 0.96a, as they have 99% the same code. Enigmail nightly for TB 2 plays quite nicely. I'm using it for my regular setup. TB 3.02a is - as it says - alphaware and using this is much riskier. It updates itself daily and you don't know what may happen with the next version. My warning was with regard to the latter. Greetings Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080513/8abebd2c/attachment.bin From ldc at lrcressy.com Tue May 13 06:05:41 2008 From: ldc at lrcressy.com (LeRoy Cressy) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:05:41 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] heeeeelloooo In-Reply-To: <48296B7F.8040400@gmail.com> References: <48296B7F.8040400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48299225.8070309@lrcressy.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 isabel User wrote: > Hello! > I am new at Linux and this is a sample signed message. > Is there anyone willing to help me test Enigmail's encryption features? > Thanks! > Isa > You successfully posted your public key to a keyserver and your signature is good. - -- Rev. LeRoy D. Cressy mailto:leroy at lrcressy.com /\_/\ http://lrcressy.com ( o.o ) Phone: 215-535-4037 > ^ < gpg fingerprint: 62DE 6CAB CEE1 B1B3 359A 81D8 3FEF E6DA 8501 AFEA For info on enigmail: http://lrcressy.com/linux/mozilla.pdf For info on gpg: http://www.gnupg.org/ Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBSCmSJHlsxrSGsIsqAQjT6w/9EkC6BASHBk83Pkf872p/TRS8RTUV+sCN VIEvgfbapJKujxKv7PUq4uOr1EphmRYX3cI9oW1ppzw6pqbX5ZwjvfPR/KvRLchs bREoSfEKl7LgrvTXI9Ioh71nzwk0Y2L3HG4CCkU9Ipmm6rEwHqxl6xmRnlu1JXHr pmKHbCYU/9IeXnO7wUnsa2dI0i1+NffxajJFhEYuYXqRNGJTdK80qV9awhscuDxI f65/LhMjfrTYT+sqzwzPf+JPjTqMf/29ZpyI59stD2fYEP7fvQcJizI7/BdK8WHT 6o/uUhTaXIKqNANfB/YGrOre7tjBPevmv0jGf3RiS8CniwbgFFGEJJVBsGyLe/EW qn5zNTD9R3ZDqPcSOdV43ZO2nV++bDIVgh58QWhGiiujD8Lqfyil930+Ma/jR4T6 8XHLnytEvdBIFAXE52tTmrTQfkw5JeQAv6OOVbveAj8HES5iOk21QhOWsThlI+Z6 eeHvHNzLzcmjTQkvwLhzUmvj4bjOBadODNXf2fwZG2XK9pFwxNbRZ/TuawyGYqmb PGLqLIN+txgmiPD0H0Ar3yE6EiEJ0xynDbtDf3DAFYl+4FUee8bIA/WsqumE8wMH xaIjKDYwXVTPku5cygvKjCLRMeRQ/S4URyEYQCXjrYiffJCGGnMh5kwo1iL+tHtn T0g5pAzJcfk= =C6hV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Tue May 13 06:23:29 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:23:29 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Additional Tests - Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48299148.30804@gmail.com> References: <48289B4D.2060004@bellsouth.net> <48292CF7.1090706@mac.com> <4829785A.6090503@hammernoch.net> <48298697.6000803@mac.com> <48299148.30804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48299651.4060309@mac.com> Faramir wrote: [...] > That is a good advice, even if you were not doing risky tests. I only risked to have a corrupt profile. > As end user I appreciate what developers and testers do, so, be careful... Sin duda alguna, hombre precavido vale por dos. (English translation: undoubtedly, one good forewit is worth two afterwits. > I am > sure there are backup utilities for whatever platform you are using (a > couple of clicks, and the backups is updated an safe). I am using MacOSX, and also Linux Ubuntu 8.04 under virtual ware (now I am writing this e-mail in Linux), and there are, indeed, very good backup utilities, even for the Macintosh platform. > > Good luck.. Agradecido, igualmente. (English translation: thank you, likewise) Charly MacOSX 10.5.2 - Ubuntu 8.04 (under virtual ware) - GnuPG 1.4.9 - gpg2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird version 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.95.6 From cantanova at gmail.com Tue May 13 10:09:19 2008 From: cantanova at gmail.com (Henry Garcia) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:09:19 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ~ Hey everyone, I'm new to E-Mail encryption. Just wanted to make sure that I uploaded my public key correctly and if my signature checks out. ~ Thanks and take care. ~ Henry Garcia -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkgpyz8ACgkQbLBBN5rwSlVVfACfVJEa/HCsf1VBTf/7S8nGzIhx z/UAni67ITMujxvLLPxXMsvvy48dIsyJ =WfgF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From oberon at qwest.net Tue May 13 10:20:48 2008 From: oberon at qwest.net (Oberon) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:20:48 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4829CDF0.8050502@qwest.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Garcia wrote: | ~ Hey everyone, I'm new to E-Mail encryption. Just wanted to make sure | that I uploaded my public key correctly and if my signature checks out. | ~ Thanks and take care. Lookin' good: OpenPGP Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from Henry Garcia Key ID: 0x9AF04A55 / Signed on: 5/13/2008 12:09 PM Key fingerprint: DD27 740A D245 7C7F 832E B7F6 6CB0 4137 9AF0 4A55 - -- Take time to smell the roses and eventually you'll inhale a bee. - --------------------------------------------------------------- Go ahead and criticize. My concept of reality is mostly guess- work anyway. - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKc3vSJ7e4CqUgM0RArYXAKCccteBO102tUG8qAnbf9wtRaUzHQCfVE1K Mb0slUN/D9V89Uoqa87ktSc= =UYsh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gr3nad3.jump3r at gmail.com Tue May 13 14:06:09 2008 From: gr3nad3.jump3r at gmail.com (xero) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:06:09 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] First Time Message-ID: <482A02C1.7020708@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is my first time using enigmail or using PGP for encrypting email at all. So wanted to give it a test run, so if you could let me know if it works that would be great. - -xero -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIKgLAAbndl4Xr0dYRAo0TAJ4kwb2x5ZLzfYTUr5NJBqPASsvdzQCgnP2B 4XYy3nxEslSI82FhzvWgP6k= =bZWG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Tue May 13 15:23:09 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:23:09 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] First Time In-Reply-To: <482A02C1.7020708@gmail.com> References: <482A02C1.7020708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <482A14CD.6080205@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 xero wrote: > This is my first time using enigmail or using PGP for encrypting email > at all. So wanted to give it a test run, so if you could let me know > if it works that would be great. UNTRUSTED Good signature from xero Key ID: 0x85EBD1D6 / Signed on: 5/13/2008 5:06 PM Key fingerprint: B7B3 39C5 4FA3 DDBC AFAB 3C67 01B9 DD97 85EB D1D6 Congratulations! Thanks for Uploading Your Key to the Keyservers so it was available. :) JOHN ;) Timestamp: Tuesday 13 May 2008, 18:22 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIKhTIAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsP76oH/iqAiKAVLViUASXQYUM3v34G YNtK21JhDe4RUNf4Je4vNcooSXnkDmAEXqHrd+W3z5bteuJ26cFyYap6Cd4zwc+L vSPOpzAmsCw8rAq48d+BTmwu4cQogvlmNZLRzKkP6Jj7VlQag+CYJJxSVSAYuCMq +T0iI5JKqWPeR3e6qBpw3AfdWPqMiFZjenpi2SIWQYn2cVeJABKB41KKbkqjYZWt u/7fG1p+t+saYC8Wgbrzi7R7b4zJqjWzmKOItTd3LpZetdQx0JAu+yYLlfSoSGhv G7x2z0CCyQKodtTCIqCZoX6cXuNGJTLNJWL0S4e2HxcHVZ2UU14xCLEJSvZXW0Y= =x84Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Tue May 13 20:11:26 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:26 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Weird error Message-ID: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 I have a message which successfully decrypts and verifies on Thunderbird and Enigmail, running on OS X. The same message bombs out at the command line. gpg: using character set `utf-8' gpg: armor: BEGIN PGP MESSAGE gpg: armor header: Charset: UTF-8 gpg: CRC error; 5341CC - DC3534 :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 97B2C95A0569E3E6 data: [2047 bits] :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 16, keyid 7582ADCB684C50FA data: [3072 bits] data: [3071 bits] gpg: encrypted_mdc packet with unknown version 255 gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used When I try decrypting this message on an Ubuntu 8.04 box with Thunderbird and Enigmail, it bombs. When I decrypt it at the command line on Ubuntu 8.04, it bombs. This seems highly weird to me. I have the original message, stripped of header information and other assorted things, posted at: http://sixdemonbag.org/buggy_message.asc Anyone have any idea what's going on here? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIKlheAAoJELcA9IL+r4EJaYEIANE2v5+6Rzmki7/ZxHVCOxfz vjUNfWCqnQIAT+xnaI89wb10c9VMUQ7u1NQluFRxo9MnNqOV3FLK8M0rqupbqmh1 1oZ5QKv3xclVC9omCCdge+RsxZp8e8rSfmeD52P3FqkrkXkTRsyQ152T6fa2UBMh hALw9G/X0+MvyZDgH4ey9nTmqBUDuEfQfCww9ZNt1EmZdhszbSUj3dqhu0IeFsVU mzC6SphNMt2KEjTcOHmNA/lHrH++Nn+AwObYH1AhVYqTkAY4k8UTuSoEc7RN35XV QCujNgdalrDIEGydM0Z3AagRkHBAFRdQMzGBoVD+a0J7cbqxLnUHEalK94w0o2U= =2qYb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Tue May 13 20:49:44 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:49:44 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Weird error In-Reply-To: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> References: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <482A6158.4000205@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen escribi?: > I have a message which successfully decrypts and verifies on Thunderbird > and Enigmail, running on OS X. > > The same message bombs out at the command line. > > > gpg: using character set `utf-8' > gpg: armor: BEGIN PGP MESSAGE > gpg: armor header: Charset: UTF-8 > gpg: CRC error; 5341CC - DC3534 > :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 1, keyid 97B2C95A0569E3E6 > data: [2047 bits] > :pubkey enc packet: version 3, algo 16, keyid 7582ADCB684C50FA > data: [3072 bits] > data: [3071 bits] > gpg: encrypted_mdc packet with unknown version 255 > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been > used > > > When I try decrypting this message on an Ubuntu 8.04 box with > Thunderbird and Enigmail, it bombs. When I decrypt it at the command > line on Ubuntu 8.04, it bombs. > > This seems highly weird to me. I have the original message, stripped of > header information and other assorted things, posted at: > > http://sixdemonbag.org/buggy_message.asc > > Anyone have any idea what's going on here? gpg: Error en suma de comprobaci?n: 5341CC - DC3534 gpg: encrypted_mdc packet with unknown version 255 gpg: caracter "quoted printable" en la armadura - probablemente se us? un MTA defectuoso File: C:\Documents and Settings\Javier\Escritorio\buggy_message.asc Time: 13-05-2008 23:43:53 (14-05-2008 3:43:53 UTC) I got that from GPGShell, trying to verify the signature. quoting: A mail transfer agent (MTA) (also called a mail transport agent, message transfer agent, or smtpd (short for SMTP daemon)) end quoting I figure it means something happened when the email was delivered? I am too noob to be able to troubleshoot... :( -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIKmFXAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOI8sIAJDonshUDQQCBRiKqhRxOXZj N+mlnaPXccQGx3p91oxkQ/18oR0i2MkXIBvaz6eRDEyQttBOLSn0hLlmHCUbg1iC S6x1T9zNbCAky+qkN867c6AbEyxRGQqcVwjHkDycrDENOSvzXRBeKJ/mYTreAvYu ejd2dwypG2Jt6ySV0sfctRXEM+A8XrmUWXbWl9nY9gsMnroqIdOqsrKUO19URRgC hxzuK+wjD1Cm35DdZrvnIFZ1q6hsb5XbWTq4F0AvSObvM9yPFGkfJGgFzImWXRw0 It5I/PknFVF6eY0tR/Dr6XbhW1lLZXsyod9HU7ONeCOrbJ/f4pCoorAUwQXHG44= =zWxJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Tue May 13 22:44:24 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 00:44:24 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Weird error In-Reply-To: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> References: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <482A7C38.8010904@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Robert J. Hansen wrote: > I have a message which successfully decrypts and verifies on Thunderbird > and Enigmail, running on OS X. > > The same message bombs out at the command line. > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been > used > When I try decrypting this message on an Ubuntu 8.04 box with > Thunderbird and Enigmail, it bombs. When I decrypt it at the command > line on Ubuntu 8.04, it bombs. > > This seems highly weird to me. I have the original message, stripped of > header information and other assorted things, posted at: > > http://sixdemonbag.org/buggy_message.asc > > Anyone have any idea what's going on here? Yep. You've been told already: quoted printable. Last two lines. Recall in base=64, '=' is only allowed as null filler, so at the end of the message there shouldn't be anything after the '='. Ditto the CRC being an extra two characters too long, should only be five. Quoted printable uses a two digit hex value prefixed with '='. 0x3D = '=' = '=3D' s/=3D/=/ and it should decrypt. Quoted printable should have been specified in the messages' MIME headers. TB on OS X is interpreting the '=3D' correctly and changing it back to '=' before passing to Enigmail and GnuPG. It would appear to be a Ubuntu bug. The q-p encoding of '=' is also what is keeping it from decrypting on the command line. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080514/fce7f782/attachment.bin From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 14 00:41:00 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:41:00 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Weird error In-Reply-To: <482A7C38.8010904@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> <482A7C38.8010904@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482A978C.2050605@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Clizbe wrote: > Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> I have a message which successfully decrypts and verifies on Thunderbird >> and Enigmail, running on OS X. >> >> The same message bombs out at the command line. > > >> gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been >> used > > >> When I try decrypting this message on an Ubuntu 8.04 box with >> Thunderbird and Enigmail, it bombs. When I decrypt it at the command >> line on Ubuntu 8.04, it bombs. >> >> This seems highly weird to me. I have the original message, stripped of >> header information and other assorted things, posted at: >> >> http://sixdemonbag.org/buggy_message.asc >> >> Anyone have any idea what's going on here? > > Yep. You've been told already: quoted printable. > > Last two lines. Recall in base=64, '=' is only allowed as null filler, > so at the end of the message there shouldn't be anything after the '='. > Ditto the CRC being an extra two characters too long, should only be five. > > Quoted printable uses a two digit hex value prefixed with '='. > > 0x3D = '=' = '=3D' > > s/=3D/=/ and it should decrypt. > > Quoted printable should have been specified in the messages' MIME headers. > > TB on OS X is interpreting the '=3D' correctly and changing it back to > '=' before passing to Enigmail and GnuPG. > > It would appear to be a Ubuntu bug. > > The q-p encoding of '=' is also what is keeping it from decrypting on > the command line. John's completely right. The question is why does it work on Mac OS X and not on Linux? I assume you use Thuderbird and Enigmail as provided by Ubuntu; which version of Enigmail is installed with Ubuntu 8.04? - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCqXincOpHodsOiwAQKAxwf+LRpc6KLiEdNhRRpFamwj/Z7+pLuT90y8 T4I7E/XgewMr5nZD0v0gth5UmfLV9sT6yPE4HHHPP819tuSvI01c0smF4120x39Q +GQQR66fI+megY1rixGeeXQbakAM2a3KQ7W0HiW/GUISSwK6MtKTZc0Onfqe4m6f fER/X6gXhQEkgOipehespopyHzlW3W3DXCLakCXXwQLiLVUeaAv2hRQ9TPN2fcD+ zPOLYAgK1Py1WglhQLgNuXZZbwPJO784LKihstN7Lb42D0kPKaqi0H6vrKkrYbmI r49YvVDK1Gvsl2o0ZdUV7vyEL28AcpGR/X5BsVyedVzNzwNMiQvgFg== =zk3m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 14 00:52:19 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:52:19 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> Message-ID: <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/12/08 2:23 PM: > [...] > >> The Enigmail nightly (0.96a) displays the attachment when you click on >> "Send". > > Before I posted, I self-tested repeatedly 0.96a, after marking 'Attach > My Public Key' in Menu/OpenPGP. No attachment was displayed when > clicking on Send, and no attachment was received. > > But I'll test again. > I just found out that 'Attach My Public Key' only works in the current nightly builds if the email is encrypted and/or signed. For unencrypted unsigned messages the function is broken :-( - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCqaMncOpHodsOiwAQIKMQf/amANyFjOcbfv6sOGwDKuD+BtPcZPVbru QUok20dZdAALVhNjbUpZO/wm8IZQcv02a32/hUBfqrtf/Y8xD09r3BUX9NMdIwCM nePc6acv2Xg45nWshTjfU2aJS2A6PhPyeSJRfTfqmIFUlEsdwuecW7MrtN7MOrgB jKEIT9qdLYiUsWLy8qUYgFNndp5o+ALlrHaXzuPcy1JysuuEy5NNKMT13U//Ml6T YaPbhef2h3Aw97vTsmu9RomlBrWEIulJVvIk2IqmeKJ7WfSoKsA7wP8fbrxlakPM iVhEB713GRyYv5K3LB2r2oE4MVjwsRxowwtH2TsYP45Q4Orolv/mJA== =P1sY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Wed May 14 01:05:26 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 03:05:26 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Weird error In-Reply-To: <482A978C.2050605@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482A585E.9060709@sixdemonbag.org> <482A7C38.8010904@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <482A978C.2050605@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482A9D46.30209@sixdemonbag.org> Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > John's completely right. The question is why does it work on Mac OS X > and not on Linux? I assume you use Thuderbird and Enigmail as provided > by Ubuntu; which version of Enigmail is installed with Ubuntu 8.04? Nope. On Linux, the very first thing I do is ditch my distro-provided Thunderbird and replace it with a Thunderbird from getthunderbird.com, and Enigmail from the Enigmail main site. Both systems are running TB 2.0.0.14 with Enigmail 0.95.6. From shavital at mac.com Wed May 14 04:13:40 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:13:40 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/14/08 3:52 AM: [...] > I just found out that 'Attach My Public Key' only works in the current > nightly builds if the email is encrypted and/or signed. For unencrypted > unsigned messages the function is broken :-( > > -Patrick Thanks Patrick, I feel better. Charly From mlisten at hammernoch.net Wed May 14 04:19:40 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:19:40 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482ACACC.7010400@hammernoch.net> Hi, Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 14.05.2008 9:52 Uhr: > > I just found out that 'Attach My Public Key' only works in the current > nightly builds if the email is encrypted and/or signed. For unencrypted > unsigned messages the function is broken :-( This explains why it worked for me. I have a per-recipient rule for Charly which always encrypts... Sorry for not testing with a plaintext message. Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080514/9aee4073/attachment.bin From claytosi at alltel.net Wed May 14 09:46:38 2008 From: claytosi at alltel.net (Clayton Simons) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Newb testing Enigmal! Message-ID: <482B176E.2090109@alltel.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We'll I've been using Thunderbird for sometime, but now am ready to venture out on some of the cool supported plug-ins. Is there still no easy way to use this and still have HTML on? Thanks. - -C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgrF24ACgkQPy8umClf03/iKwCghuNU1Yh8TyOG48Ax4aQ+brVA X24AoJ7eAvEbPkXsmn43OCnDH+W7XzkK =IKT0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 14 12:37:58 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:37:58 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Newb testing Enigmal! In-Reply-To: <482B176E.2090109@alltel.net> References: <482B176E.2090109@alltel.net> Message-ID: <482B3F96.60301@mac.com> Clayton Simons wrote the following on 5/14/08 12:46 PM: > We'll I've been using Thunderbird for sometime, but now am ready to > venture out on some of the cool supported plug-ins. Is there still no > easy way to use this and still have HTML on? Thanks. > > -C Error - signature verification failed gpg: Signature made Wed May 14 12:46:38 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 295FD37F gpg: BAD signature from "Clayton Simons (Should've been a doctor!) " Your message's raw source shows: Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 I don't know why signature verification failed (your message was not in HTML format). A suggestion though: in in-line signed message, it's better to avoid starting a line with a dash, because the signing process will add another dash before, like in: - -C You wrote: -C (check your quoted message above, *after* verification that strips out the added dash), but in the signed message it came as: - -C I am not saying this is the reason why signature verification failed. About an easy way to use "this" and still have HTML on, I reckon that if you use PGP/MIME format when signing only, or signing and encrypting (to a private recipient, *not* to a list), the html stuff *might* be preserved. I never touch html in messages. Take care, Charly From claytosi at alltel.net Wed May 14 13:32:39 2008 From: claytosi at alltel.net (Clayton Simons) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:32:39 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] 2nd PGP Test Message-ID: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well looks like the first test bombed out, I'll remove all my "dashes" this time and see. Thanks C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgrTGcACgkQPy8umClf039KhQCgxDNtFXLxLPACEqf7aBniHJ8S xpAAn1F1SR9tmSJqvh3tn4l9ekir8fdR =LNkl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Wed May 14 14:47:34 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:47:34 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] 2nd PGP Test In-Reply-To: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> References: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> Message-ID: <482B5DF6.4070901@hammernoch.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Clayton Simons wrote on 14.05.2008 22:32 Uhr: > Well looks like the first test bombed out, I'll remove all my "dashes" > this time and see. Thanks I still get a signature failure. No idea why. Maybe some mailserver fiddles with your message... Greetings Ludwig -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCtd9VYnpxVXVowdAQohfwf+KGaygpOHG1+GCF2f2Y1upQHHswi58fV6 8LYrUTH/vjAWVdeMinx+moYq1TeLwV3V1XU8CQjrubRtAitgDEZT2dS+Bj7SnaPH LHmFWkw8yNu4M0zn5Z992LdVH9I9VEzbaX5dbEHswQga1I3A9u35wyyZJOhTQifo rKgwZIfXqjkKDrIycf+JpQ7ZyvmKlYbaCL0sXZwmUc87pZ+CSVyzq0WIQyBlkhSO JcQsR2yPRdjzJzGxoazsySguq4D9neSloIz5L6p8EEmOnHgp4ya5U7lTaltwfv6u oQYYfAZpV2bHNYkZfyRtN5trIl6aG35AIcw6AmdCVKbDA1aZLJBdXw== =OZrY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alaric at metrocast.net Wed May 14 14:53:25 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:53:25 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] 2nd PGP Test In-Reply-To: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> References: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> Message-ID: <482B5F55.2080507@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Clayton Simons wrote: | Well looks like the first test bombed out, I'll remove all my "dashes" | this time and see. Thanks | | C OpenPGP Security Info Error - signature verification failed gpg command line and output: /usr/bin/gpg --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d gpg: Signature made Wed May 14 16:32:39 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 295FD37F gpg: BAD signature from "Clayton Simons (Should've been a doctor!) " - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIK19V0DfOju+hMkkRCC2fAKDmfRs1UW/UxZjotRqgnFqzNsOQUACfRIaW aGMN/H+Jmih2g3Hn8BvIh7c= =94Ra -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cantanova at gmail.com Wed May 14 20:02:53 2008 From: cantanova at gmail.com (Henry Garcia) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:02:53 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oberon wrote: | Lookin' good: | | OpenPGP Security Info | | UNTRUSTED Good signature from Henry Garcia | Key ID: 0x9AF04A55 / Signed on: 5/13/2008 12:09 PM | Key fingerprint: DD27 740A D245 7C7F 832E B7F6 6CB0 4137 9AF0 4A55 ~ Cool, thanks. :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkgrp90ACgkQbLBBN5rwSlU9kACgl7+8bsZ0nwZ34MrZLjvWtXwy CoAAnRqGMKc8mtY6g/+tEZ3DKp85zNA7 =nPuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 14 23:53:27 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 02:53:27 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] 2nd PGP Test In-Reply-To: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> References: <482B4C67.1070802@alltel.net> Message-ID: <482BDDE7.8090201@mac.com> Clayton Simons wrote the following on 5/14/08 4:32 PM: > Well looks like the first test bombed out, I'll remove all my "dashes" > this time and see. Thanks > > C Still bad, sorry gpg: Signature made Wed May 14 16:32:39 2008 EDT using DSA key ID 295FD37F gpg: BAD signature from "Clayton Simons (Should've been a doctor!) " Other forum members have also reported the same results. In Thunderbird's Preferences (or Options if that what they are called in Windows) Composition, please check that TB is wrapping at 72 chars. If it is not, please set it at 72 (it's TB's default anyway) and try again. Last option is to sign using PGP/MIME, but that's going around the problem (which I have no idea what it might be), not solving it. Take care, Charly From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Thu May 15 02:55:06 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:55:06 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> Message-ID: <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Patrick Brunschwig wrote the following on 5/14/08 3:52 AM: > [...] > > >> I just found out that 'Attach My Public Key' only works in the current >> nightly builds if the email is encrypted and/or signed. For unencrypted >> unsigned messages the function is broken :-( >> >> -Patrick > > Thanks Patrick, I feel better. > I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's (CET) nightly build. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEUAwUBSCwId3cOpHodsOiwAQJRhgf4gHBT4eU70WiZgDxAj/1zLNN4IRfErso4 VUbA/YqF0Qx9LRxZRzA8vWkH/ojWdo45DdaUw7xSeZoOQjiVAO3fgynaS8i67XGV SRLBwiwTghGD5p6iBWDHicsSDmhCe5wniPGRIibI9CAioiUEt5ctMkpW3USRd5W+ MB/z8c0c5GRlv5Mrlx2Hey0jnCvjTLbBOHayyji1Kh0Y9fn+j1nlXW6psmXHpE6w vvy/kVbGJgwvBdCor4wDsX6awGojXXC0pJGcYo0V+XgECMxkeQ9Cntpcq3zeHqAK sFZO4RXYZf0O9mogPWGX6HgPqyUXVwOt+3py2XlivixXIAvzt3Sh =lA7n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Thu May 15 07:12:02 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:12:02 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> Hi, Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 15.05.2008 11:55 Uhr: > > I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's (CET) nightly build. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080515/acdf4c40/attachment.bin From shavital at mac.com Thu May 15 09:05:13 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:05:13 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/15/08 10:12 AM: > Hi, The tests I have done till now: - clear text messages, not signed, not encrypted, key is *not* attached. - clear signed messages, not encrypted, key is attached. - signed and encrypted, key is attached. > Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 15.05.2008 11:55 Uhr: >> I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's (CET) nightly build. > > Works now, both for encrypted and not encrypted mails. I guess something might be wrong with my configuration? The file that I have downloaded from is named 'enigmail-trunk-moz-darwin-x86-ppc-gecko18.xpi' With this message, 'Attach My Public Key' is enabled (itemized) in OpenPGP, and this is a clear text, not signed message. I apologize for any inconvenience. Charly From cantanova at gmail.com Thu May 15 09:24:37 2008 From: cantanova at gmail.com (Henry Garcia) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice a tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkgsY8UACgkQbLBBN5rwSlVSZACfSOsFE2hvnjqOI2qOeqgCwhyM WIoAoMQAJfwXZhf+Dfr0o+nL/A2lrEoI =0B/F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Thu May 15 09:48:52 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:48:52 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> Message-ID: <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote the following on 5/15/08 10:12 AM: >> Hi, > > The tests I have done till now: > - clear text messages, not signed, not encrypted, key is *not* attached. > - clear signed messages, not encrypted, key is attached. > - signed and encrypted, key is attached. > >> Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 15.05.2008 11:55 Uhr: >>> I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's (CET) nightly build. >> Works now, both for encrypted and not encrypted mails. > > I guess something might be wrong with my configuration? > The file that I have downloaded from > > is named 'enigmail-trunk-moz-darwin-x86-ppc-gecko18.xpi' > > With this message, 'Attach My Public Key' is enabled (itemized) in > OpenPGP, and this is a clear text, not signed message. > Charly, make sure that the file you downloaded isn't cached by Firefox, i.e. that you _really_ got the latest version. AFAIK, the file is the correct one. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSCxpcncOpHodsOiwAQK8XQf8DPFtVwc0bco0QVXsmX0SNltYt8vNKwUD zOrRWeNH2iXRibWCsAJxrCWhRnT9xRCWaJ7BXWXStqpac2QLQZl8P/RQ/r52/wXP +t5EOviT9CR9GENHkKe2MJ39hv4W6fyiPAZprX5SCUbPgz+Tbup3ryADng38Fn5o raA66emWJwvwcDcCtqQ0TLZQ0AURZy215FHxh/vBkrMzYc0hN+PPaCh50y2s7GUF 34B4aKKigb/4z0uRW5nVh75CvGIZU5QbuabbQm4ogvD5RXkQoAbiwSSGeLoB7MQ6 0ez9TMYglXfeoCVGW15xglozNRLcd5Ljo1hFLSePExERS12vzrE+/Q== =eqSO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Thu May 15 10:18:18 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:18:18 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> Patrick Brunschwig wrote: [...] > Charly, > > make sure that the file you downloaded isn't cached by Firefox, i.e. > that you _really_ got the latest version. AFAIK, the file is the correct > one. > > -Patrick Patrick, I am still in Linux Ubuntu 8.04. I have emptied Firefox's cache, repeatedly :-), quit and relaunched Firefox, redownloaded /home/shavital enigmail-trunk-moz-linux-gecko18.xpi uninstalled the previous 0.96a in Thunderbird, quit TB, relaunched TB, imported the freshly downloaded 0.96a, and...same results. Unsigned, unencrypted messages with 'Attach My Public Key', public key is not attached. I have just had an inspiration :-) :-): the culprit is not Firefox, or any other browser for that matter, the culprit must my [expletives....] ISP, may the wrath of Cybernetics fall upon him, that without my knowledge, and other subscribers' knowledge is making me access the Internet via his own proxy. I'll wait a few hours, or maybe until tomorrow, and try again. This is not just an inspiration, this kind of proxy sh.. has happened in the past, nothing I can do but curse the ISP, and drink some water. Sorry for any trouble or inconvenience I have caused you and the list. Charly From mlisten at hammernoch.net Thu May 15 10:23:19 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:23:19 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> Message-ID: <482C7187.5080700@hammernoch.net> Charly Avital wrote on 15.05.2008 19:18 Uhr: > I have just had an inspiration :-) :-): the culprit is not Firefox, or > any other browser for that matter, the culprit must my [expletives....] > ISP, may the wrath of Cybernetics fall upon him, that without my > knowledge, and other subscribers' knowledge is making me access the > Internet via his own proxy. I'll wait a few hours, or maybe until > tomorrow, and try again. This is not just an inspiration, this kind of > proxy sh.. has happened in the past, nothing I can do but curse the ISP, > and drink some water. > > Sorry for any trouble or inconvenience I have caused you and the list. > Charly Charly, what does "About OpenPGP" tell you? At my side it is: "Running Enigmail version 0.96a (20080515)" Just curious to sort things out ;-) Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080515/612c1ad1/attachment-0001.bin From faramir.cl at gmail.com Thu May 15 10:52:03 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:52:03 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482C7843.1010304@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Garcia escribi?: > ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice a > tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen > when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in > thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. Yes, there is... if I just could remember where is that setting... I know I got rid of it, but I changed so many thing, I can't remember what did I do... :( -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJILHhDAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOAg8IAMo28NDWGXnBKriSnZ2qC38h gjZhG6FLyxmfL8LzP4jQiZaNnb3pu/ZXHAeTOHQ2Zz08BLLZf6nGN6B8cltZnrw5 UXtFJqMOW0E6OF7yK6VhxIVptUPR/Fwp2+JKb1W1kOMlrI0aAz79CyC4iaL+Y5pt qkHbxpSQ6YFY0NRMnjDLKFy/eC1bznABmiaK8ui2zQ8fVLIpTAKmG3Rut37te6dG Q9RYh1AI3pccsxeF5TZi3pl8zF9d/lVO9ixOyQrmD33QIly5fywdP2IgR4GrFT1j StNAgNeTKL7547cSCaTkg7gk8Gc9lgleyGjqZUNDmINR7owK7GwfIH349tQi48w= =QitT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Thu May 15 10:59:44 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:59:44 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482C7A10.9000103@mac.com> Henry Garcia wrote the following on 5/15/08 12:24 PM: > ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice a > tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen > when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in > thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. I can see a tilde at beginning of the first line only, and another one that you typed in "...I notice a tilde ~ added at....." Saludos, Charly From faramir.cl at gmail.com Thu May 15 11:13:42 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:13:42 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] enigmail-trunk-moz-darwin-x86-ppc-gecko18.xpi In-Reply-To: <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> Message-ID: <482C7D56.40006@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you want, I can send you the file to your mail... that way you dont have to wait until your ISP refresh its cache. (Si lo deseas, puedo enviarte el archivo por email, asi no necesitas esperar a que tu ISP renueve el cache). Regards (saludos) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJILH1WAAoJEIISGkVDGUEOREsH/0VEvH2lXgNvtyF55eIyAHwC jFBxjxZ2abD7bfvnbhpyVEtraepSsEDO8iWR0lzLQVI2D7XkczrjaIuVRV/WcbDY r0565fwxBBjnapr8P7TOj7ZKkZfP/d1oiW0mngayF80fDWYrcuG8wIfy/xmTS/TZ RJOMK9rbIyaavrqmSoe+mRJNZJVGGioRGGzOtc9A36af0Uef5zZxaiV+0Baqf0z4 DSAhSRGsjWCbTQdkzrMe46GRx7HuUfqxhbV/8vypTblt1wN9ZyNBbQxDrsaot+tM P32d6SDUMDh13NWGcYPJKCw3EiOMWVRnd9vabQrXDCAUg4zVvd5LSqwwvlYLwa0= =w0Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cantanova at gmail.com Thu May 15 17:46:51 2008 From: cantanova at gmail.com (Henry Garcia) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:46:51 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Faramir wrote: | Henry Garcia escribi?: |> ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice a |> tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen |> when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in |> thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. | | Yes, there is... if I just could remember where is that setting... I | know I got rid of it, but I changed so many thing, I can't remember what | did I do... :( ~ If anyone can remember, I would appreciate the info, thanks. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkgs2XoACgkQbLBBN5rwSlWXYwCfUt4PX0NOM61lDCkfJbml7VWZ Ho8AniaLDrJamFPefvPVZvoMr98Jcc4t =jqRM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Fri May 16 00:14:16 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:14:16 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> Message-ID: <482D3448.1090702@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > [...] > >> Charly, >> >> make sure that the file you downloaded isn't cached by Firefox, i.e. >> that you _really_ got the latest version. AFAIK, the file is the correct >> one. >> >> -Patrick > > Patrick, > > I am still in Linux Ubuntu 8.04. > > I have emptied Firefox's cache, repeatedly :-), quit and relaunched > Firefox, redownloaded /home/shavital enigmail-trunk-moz-linux-gecko18.xpi > uninstalled the previous 0.96a in Thunderbird, quit TB, relaunched TB, > imported the freshly downloaded 0.96a, and...same results. Unsigned, > unencrypted messages with 'Attach My Public Key', public key is not > attached. > > > I have just had an inspiration :-) :-): the culprit is not Firefox, or > any other browser for that matter, the culprit must my [expletives....] > ISP, may the wrath of Cybernetics fall upon him, that without my > knowledge, and other subscribers' knowledge is making me access the > Internet via his own proxy. I'll wait a few hours, or maybe until > tomorrow, and try again. This is not just an inspiration, this kind of > proxy sh.. has happened in the past, nothing I can do but curse the ISP, > and drink some water. Charly, You forgot that I wrote: "I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's (CET) nightly build." That is, the Linux build you tried yesterday didn't have the fix. Apparently Ludwig created a new Mac OS X version before writing to the mailing list; however this doesn't apply to the Linux and Windows versions which I create via cron-job every early morning (CET). - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSC00R3cOpHodsOiwAQI+wwf/b/xnI+rtMeEljCxxmCxnRloRjpv67+W0 rli0xWz+mCDhu4EGEldULIUxUfXOYuRQvQ6zQpoyU3cmjubaOtoq/7ChK3PtLjvl Ya5xDU8+ev/AQ1BWIHwO7RQhq3MZlLQ5JbyCUzF99szc1/K4HAz31bM8DVqwt76S OfXGVlljtzgRib+ZOpAeYDPTYhB61QIv9mJplvjpcmOUgU29PnV04+O6TsPF/AgA 5aEuzlRi4H2wlyGuRo0tNnKfPYTAqTHP9amXXxBtuygdsw15/SUL4xxolfAu4+9m XhBoHpZuf6+t2vYclN9XyrECjNQPPbq2cS8duutWx+psljsHB5dCpg== =fMWn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Fri May 16 00:16:46 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:16:46 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482D34DE.4010909@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Garcia wrote: > Faramir wrote: > | Henry Garcia escribi?: > |> ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice a > |> tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen > |> when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in > |> thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. > | > | Yes, there is... if I just could remember where is that setting... I > | know I got rid of it, but I changed so many thing, I can't remember what > | did I do... :( > > ~ If anyone can remember, I would appreciate the info, thanks. You should disable "flowed" messages. The following article explains how to do that: - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSC003XcOpHodsOiwAQK5lQf/fFQx6TVek6plXfl0xN9NGlwGbPm6Jg+D Pr7cDpo3Ap53VsyqZrQlaFHZR8ODwAliMw1i9S64qKmrmyAPCJRkbX/gNjXfkx+J nyk9NlXhA6sHimqfZ5zy8fvj9b1ENRqzqb6sSFmpsnoBGVEW6QwxNNCCvMAFOvDo sAKuGfRittjAt7X5tGaL8tFoopGjJrJa/2CLIdq1Gnmp1WAXTmMfL4ysrAu0ZlTf 6NfhD0xMQnD4LbGh2GwlIX/vzojpr53sd/aSGPW2+80gtjZ/8QwSLSpBf4+ufSJc clraucoGBoib43g8r1MTKA9+DNGbsydijpo8nhNtNyo51VE8fCSv5w== =BvhN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Fri May 16 03:50:33 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 06:50:33 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482D3448.1090702@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> <482D3448.1090702@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482D66F9.5070102@mac.com> Patrick Brunschwig wrote: [...] > Charly, > > You forgot that I wrote: "I fixed the bug; it should be in tomorrow's > (CET) nightly build." > > That is, the Linux build you tried yesterday didn't have the fix. > Apparently Ludwig created a new Mac OS X version before writing to the > mailing list; however this doesn't apply to the Linux and Windows > versions which I create via cron-job every early morning (CET). > > -Patrick I didn't interpret correctly the CET detail. Now 0.96a performs correctly in MacOSX and Ubuntu. Thanks to Ludwig and to you for your work. Charly From jamesdonahue59 at gmail.com Thu May 15 19:46:32 2008 From: jamesdonahue59 at gmail.com (JAMES DONAHUE) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:46:32 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: how do you make this wrk are the emaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis n cde On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Henry Garcia wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Faramir wrote: > | Henry Garcia escribi?: > |> ~ Was just wondering, how come whenever I post something here, I notice > a > |> tilde ~ added at the beginning of each line. This seems to only happen > |> when I add my signature to a message. Is there some special setting in > |> thunderbird or enigmail that I need to configure? Thanks. > | > | Yes, there is... if I just could remember where is that setting... I > | know I got rid of it, but I changed so many thing, I can't remember what > | did I do... :( > > ~ If anyone can remember, I would appreciate the info, thanks. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkgs2XoACgkQbLBBN5rwSlWXYwCfUt4PX0NOM61lDCkfJbml7VWZ > Ho8AniaLDrJamFPefvPVZvoMr98Jcc4t > =jqRM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > -- JAMES D DONAHUE 646 996 4272 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080515/f9a9d5d5/attachment.html From jim at eventaccess.us Thu May 15 20:00:42 2008 From: jim at eventaccess.us (Jim Norman) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:00:42 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation Message-ID: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-encrypted Size: 11 bytes Desc: PGP/MIME version identification Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080515/da49ecca/attachment.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: encrypted.asc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1351 bytes Desc: OpenPGP encrypted message Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080515/da49ecca/attachment.obj From alaric at metrocast.net Fri May 16 05:49:33 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:49:33 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: <482D82DD.2080107@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Jim Norman wrote: [ciphertext] Jim, Please do not send encrypted messages to the entire list. No-one can decrypt them, so it just wastes bandwidth. If you want to send a signed message to test signing, go ahead, and people will likely offer to then exchange one-to-one encrypted mail with you to help you test encryption. ~ But encrypted mail to the list serves no practical purpose that can't be served by sending encrypted mail to yourself. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFILYLd0DfOju+hMkkRCCt1AJ403c5FFdpb9YNUGTG55Zl5AQAmtgCgtQJd Iyd1QBzRaOYS+aPfCLeDn9o= =lyY2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Fri May 16 08:40:32 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:40:32 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: <482DAAF0.8050401@mac.com> Jim Norman wrote the following on 5/15/08 11:00 PM: [cipher text] Jim, You are using: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Your message to the list was: This is an OpenPGP/MIME encrypted message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0192125782== Content-Type: multipart/encrypted; protocol="application/pgp-encrypted"; boundary="------------enig45DD1CB9813912F9A07F97A3" This is an OpenPGP/MIME encrypted message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig45DD1CB9813912F9A07F97A3 Content-Type: application/pgp-encrypted Content-Description: PGP/MIME version identification Your message was encrypted with the subkey 8F9BA576 of *your* key: pub 1024D/6D5C899E created: 2008-05-16 expires: 2013-05-15 usage: SCA trust: unknown validity: unknown sub 2048g/8F9BA576 created: 2008-05-16 expires: 2013-05-15 usage: E [ unknown] (1). Jim Norman So, it would appear that you have successfully configured TB and Enigmail to work with each other...but you might have wanted to *sign* the message, and not to encrypt it. One does not send encrypted messages to this list. BTW, when you want to send an encrypted message to some one, you have to use the recipient's public key; you can *also* use your own public key by default, so that you can decrypt your own message. Please check your settings, e.g. OpenPGP/Per Recipient Rules, OpenPGP/Sign Message (or the OpenPGP icon in the message's Tool bar, there should be something like that), etc... Welcome anyway and better luck next time. Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From mlisten at hammernoch.net Fri May 16 09:28:37 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:28:37 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Version 0.95.6 vs. 0.96a - Attach My Public Key In-Reply-To: <482D3448.1090702@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <482879C0.9060201@mac.com> <48288B28.6040006@hammernoch.net> <48288DED.1060105@mac.com> <482A9A33.5010708@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482AC964.9030804@mac.com> <482C087A.80008@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C44B2.4000401@hammernoch.net> <482C5F39.1080306@mac.com> <482C6974.6060607@mozilla-enigmail.org> <482C705A.8010408@mac.com> <482D3448.1090702@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <482DB635.80907@hammernoch.net> Hi, Patrick Brunschwig wrote on 16.05.2008 9:14 Uhr: > That is, the Linux build you tried yesterday didn't have the fix. > Apparently Ludwig created a new Mac OS X version before writing to the > mailing list; Yes, the build process for the Enigmail "nightlies" for Mac OS X is manually triggered, usually in the afternoon or in the evening (I don't want to have my computers running during the night). Sometimes they already contain code changes by Patrick done beforehand, not yet available for the Linux and Windows versions because: > however this doesn't apply to the Linux and Windows > versions which I create via cron-job every early morning (CET). Patrick, maybe we should add a time code to the version string, like the Mozilla people do with their nightlies ;-) Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080516/2d92c40a/attachment.bin From cantanova at gmail.com Fri May 16 18:38:21 2008 From: cantanova at gmail.com (Henry Garcia) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:38:21 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > You should disable "flowed" messages. The following article explains how > to do that: Ok, I disabled it, this is my first posting since the change, hopefully no more tildes. Henry Garcia -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkguNwwACgkQbLBBN5rwSlUyPwCgvp0BmuUAgV/Ih3s3H50ayt9E w7YAoJ5PGIEehiqU79VFLBPey2as+GXM =x1ti -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alaric at metrocast.net Fri May 16 19:05:23 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:05:23 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482E3D63.8090006@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Henry Garcia wrote: | Patrick Brunschwig wrote: |> You should disable "flowed" messages. The following article explains how |> to do that: | | Ok, I disabled it, this is my first posting since the change, hopefully | no more tildes. | | Henry Garcia Looks good from here. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFILj1j0DfOju+hMkkRCMj2AJdDqk84Q1XGr4S69rhsTOQa+rI1AJ4om5r5 8bSXhCKVHw42DA2XwF0CKw== =t/Zf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Fri May 16 20:09:21 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <482E4C61.7070403@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Henry Garcia escribi?: > Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> You should disable "flowed" messages. The following article explains how >> to do that: > > Ok, I disabled it, this is my first posting since the change, hopefully > no more tildes. > > Henry Garcia It worked! Now, maybe you would like to set utf-8 as default character set, in order to avoid broken signatures when using "special" characters, line ? ? ? ? ?. Well, my signature fails from time to time, but it is a lot less usual than before. Saludos ;) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJILkxhAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA/mEH/2HhGpbyOIPjT5yNcGQ91OoJ SAsUy2HsnQFSaiJGXyUVSrpIqMOlAZLZ0aqVa0Mqy3u7DGaaubUwb58jtawUW4aY +utZAinmsdOgRVtt62+2EebPmfZh0jz1PZMuKKTb3lhV9v1+BVwITaN38ZFthX/Z 6vPF+IZ5HJczhYgEz5iVddkjyphdemhQKvIxtmviKHt3j/QYaizRSv8mvxw8j2o2 7ISvbTJEr3OKgjkoJW6V7/2TzKeh2AfL9E1FSO+fjioOV4RYPDr7QvbTn/Ioe7Hw 0LF/32NiBZhvigZp2EjYHt4p+koj6ETboPIaewYaJBQjeWD2l5sg4+DFjSxkmXA= =eDMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stefano664 at gmail.com Sat May 17 01:11:32 2008 From: stefano664 at gmail.com (stefano664) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:11:32 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Message-ID: <482E9334.7050509@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, ~ this is a test email for Enigmail signature. Thanks to all. Stefano -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgukzQACgkQQI+TFsmVO/cTGQCfTsL/kzuzk8r9r+AYSWil+JhB gNIAoJx+0h7m+QwJ4pPGcIorN/DbQJJ0 =4eip -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Sat May 17 07:02:57 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:02:57 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello In-Reply-To: <482E9334.7050509@gmail.com> References: <482E9334.7050509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <482EE591.6080903@mac.com> stefano664 wrote the following on 5/17/08 4:11 AM: > Hi, > ~ this is a test email for Enigmail signature. > Thanks to all. > Stefano Hi Stefano, User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Your signature verifies: OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from stefano664 Key ID: 0xC9953BF7 / Signed on: 5/17/08 4:11 AM Key fingerprint: DAA0 C49B 4151 9354 764B 36AD 408F 9316 C995 3BF7 Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From jamesdonahue59 at gmail.com Sat May 17 17:27:04 2008 From: jamesdonahue59 at gmail.com (JAMES DONAHUE) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:27:04 -0700 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO SEND AND RECEIVE ENCRYPTED EMAIL On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Jim Norman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > hQIOA8j5mTaPm6V2EAgAvvkSdmgs/O0B5hYnN56KwsHHsdApTCakIutb9te0TgRP > P8DDrWRv0uOu8zEsZ3DUtTvs7svJPR6vy3D6CQoDzWrnk1/MW0B/WYE6BRPgbmsQ > 2bqSmrWtpyZexlA0ZmMwdpa+/a9iE0sBLUctEEoVIBWvo6fCflfh5WLY7r9+KFa0 > VbN47F5wz2gYPxG5BShYHehzKK2hml8tcFMIbs0ROBwtugCR7A2rHLdP0vlUdX/c > XRZeOq/xRKWrHpBAagnh4kCIl+QgFt0TqpEy7GGmWP5UCDre/M840cxi34OtKPQU > kOpaISrOl1GcfJwk/axn4giK2bhTgZ4/E90/49ymuwf+IHZpDyScBLPrA1vKamtc > Dlwwq2d6+QhqMzoVPFGDS3yWmFTBvi7Ak3aLY9/YUb90E09sS9zLDCd89d6cKkBV > yN7KYWrRCaRq9lizqgZ04eDpWNttZoa4pKyrltcMT3kDUEO39xPF1S5Mw1rc9qCB > 0tORWl09SskvoChxkuhaVlxXE1PufrG8JVcFmDZIm2B92/1vo9VwOFWrmhxlO8oi > o3b8eUTmpVpTXclY0gYymZ4v36ud89cFmkLc6XT/VXylochjBg10oGUzHAgAMZVI > NuPkZFCwzyY/vXhdoh/pO8mze3Jn/DWuZVKQywCWz/UHWw+p1OaOHW5V4ydYZMzt > t9LAngGLJjtxbPI9vrb3DXQo6s31B9xQY09jGMPYN9d040hUvNQus07tlfMN5ddK > RWowJl0lxVd6wuWkNnMMSsNVtFpci12EFFl1rBeQo2oKOrriNTJpxpSAi98r+tUl > 0yNVXRSVmsKmzbpfaly+t7LjH5X99h8GWzyg51NdrH0jt53axP6qSv56kqylyb2c > zN1gWh1gOXZXFhMdD7pSLpEgVjhwNTCeecdkl4ZxiSP07Nuy2g4spTfo5qjHPhBq > 4TuEzPHgKcc+bjTTw+Lg1+fH5GW5JIWbIu7K4VXvX+qyz6Rm+cbhxQ0U4AWFXS5g > UEekFMNjFHxLSmLFTw2MgZvzgvaroKAn2SD4pXdewRb6eRouABUtRGbBVvrv2Wc3 > p/iQePKMCYcacOjSomi6SZYG/QUPaS73nR7/VDhy0gp78XYR6LDPuCfdWoPm2j7+ > kmEpe8kxmUOLB99M74dp84Y4 > =pVHW > -----END PGP MESSAGE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > > -- JAMES D DONAHUE 646 996 4272 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080517/7dd10100/attachment.html From shavital at mac.com Sun May 18 07:43:05 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:43:05 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Help/Assistance - was: Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: <48304079.60208@mac.com> JAMES DONAHUE wrote the following on 5/17/08 8:27 PM: > PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO SEND AND RECEIVE ENCRYPTED EMAIL > I believe the sender, James Donahue, has a sight impediment. The phone number in his posts to the list, 646 996 4272 suggests he might reside in the New York City area (646 is an area code that was added when 212 and 917 topped up) . Any forum member living in that area, or close to it, might want to phone him and try to sort things out? I am not in the USA at the moment. Charly From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Sun May 18 07:51:44 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:51:44 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: <48304280.8080403@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi James, > PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO SEND AND RECEIVE ENCRYPTED EMAIL encryption means "for receipient's eyes only" - thus sending an encrypted mail to a (unpersonal) mail distribution list doesn't make sense, does it? To send private ("encrypted") messages to someone, you need HIS/HER public key FIRST. You may test with MY PERSONAL ADDRESS (do NOT just reply). I'll send you my public key in a separate message in a minute. 1. Import my key to your local keyring by right-clicking it. If you haven't set "always trust people's keys" in your OpenPGP preferences, you need to locally sign my key. Prior to signing, you should compare its fingerprint with fingerprints available from other sources, e.g. PGP.net keyservers or my homepage http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html 2. Reply to that message and click the gray key in the lower right corner of the compose window. It will turn green and your message will by encrypted to my key once you send it. Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkgwQn4ACgkQL/NBt8fdKe1Y3wCgsieBp23W0vQF5dFVRP4SrXUD xYUAn2lD8yOhUKIDT4ArWpvXEskVh+R+ =s/kC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 18 08:53:39 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing new enigmail installation In-Reply-To: References: <482CF8DA.30505@eventaccess.us> Message-ID: <48305103.9000606@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 JAMES DONAHUE wrote: > PLEASE TEACH ME HOW TO SEND AND RECEIVE ENCRYPTED EMAIL In addition to Olav's offer of Personal assistance I also suggest You visit: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PGP-Basics/join Becoming a Member of this Group will make available a fertile place to learn from ~1680 Members who can walk You through all the tips, tricks & nuances of using PGP/GPG Encryption. Welcome to the World of Encryption. JOHN :-D Timestamp: Sunday 18 May 2008, 11:53 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIMFEBAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsP9I8H/iCHB2yIJ3BNua2g2FN2yyzK ljW5xjqMgm92JswtqDIwjWBe0ucCQLHgZXHUV/Uc7imQno2t/qKZQwQiztvSg5un UyOjFEqYAl5c7Wj+4rWdCPwzg/0E7hW49IAwPBu/i8/TopxHtXJ1u1I1P0azsT+h IJrSY78m+rk2j6XXWie/mVojVpJxphw6FfEUmIEG4tLy9ROSqt4mmnLwyuNra2I6 YNJbWt3zaJItbZkQ/f2SlvpAP/ALfy4NPsyblsJAXy97kSWLZE5vRbEah06KvA6T Zu6ZgivaIZFKDRDWF7UXgivPwA8m8Ns31p3hFbW/0issTOw80twoE5GMCNASZGY= =TlnH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xp8re8 at gmail.com Sun May 18 12:53:39 2008 From: xp8re8 at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail Message-ID: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. Can anyone please advise me if it is working. Thanks Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgwiUMACgkQBP8WKyukPF+OmwCgiViwqwSuUMOy/xbhVC70ruzi yVkAnRsUD9/DXdqL3By/+i5G2y303xdU =xbC5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 18 16:35:50 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:35:50 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail In-Reply-To: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> References: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4830BD56.1040800@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Chris wrote: > I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. > I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. > > Can anyone please advise me if it is working. At first blush it /appears/ to be working. Since I was unable to obtain Your Key from a Keyserver I am unable to verify the Sig. Please either Upload Your Key to a Keyserver or Post a Link where it may be found. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Sunday 18 May 2008, 19:35 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIML1VAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPXr8H/iR3emAGBb1hZxXV8ACh1ul1 u0u9NNVTG9S5YSewgGlBHYOKhqZcWwcDCMWBz1F6ZJZYv1BdvKNLf9EQgFwMpLke MNHfcKcYTCrdjk7wZRJ/ICBwuxg+SAXeGo9h/OZaC2F+bt7qnntwNA0YcbldGEii iMmnbpAleINA6HJSTw89ZeLCASlGa8bfoF/39RJE98O+42Gn83BUUKlHMoh1g94V /yjiMOEK2LhNIuPu+x+5hOcmzjxHPgLN6aCnwkLw/rK9/sUv+uIl9Wh1wVfnEksi Fe3cWsoA36/wTyFFMyY+R/JAH8yLvR/Da4GNp5HLxYRYO6Z7UVGbJ1dBrmOgdaA= =Vud9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeandavid8 at verizon.net Sun May 18 17:51:03 2008 From: jeandavid8 at verizon.net (Jean-David Beyer) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:51:03 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail In-Reply-To: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> References: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4830CEF7.3090902@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris wrote: > Hello, > > I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. > I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. > > Can anyone please advise me if it is working. > I would say it is not working because I got your e-mail _un_encrypted. To send me an encrypted e-mail, you would have to obtain my public key and use it to send the e-mail. Your e-mail appears to be signed, but I did not check it. When it comes to testing encrypted e-mail, there is no point in sending it to the mailing list because no one will be able to decrypt it unless you send it with each recipient's public key. Such tests should be sent to an individual who specifies that (s)he is willing to receive such e-mail. - -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 20:45:01 up 11 days, 13:17, 2 users, load average: 4.21, 4.22, 4.21 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIMM73Ptu2XpovyZoRAlZNAJsGJrjwxskp+Iu1CiOb+/4dBJ7OFACghcyy 6xDqw3YepKheX7isJAwqJtw= =rUJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chd at chud.net Sun May 18 18:13:05 2008 From: chd at chud.net (Chris De Young) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:13:05 -0700 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? Message-ID: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> Hello, I apologize if this has come up before; I'm a new subscriber. I checked through the archives a bit, but I may easily have missed it since I didn't see a good way to search them. Is there a size limit imposed by Enigmail on encrypted messages? I have on a couple of occasions sent encrypted MIME messages with attachments, but when trying to decrypt them I get the error "Error - IMAP message too large to decrypt/verify". Since GnuPG handles much larger files without a problem, I'm guessing this is specific to Enigmail? I'm using Enigmail 0.95.6, GnuPG 1.4.7, and Thunderbird 2.0.0.14, all for Windows XP. Thanks! -Chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 250 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080518/ef835640/attachment.bin From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sun May 18 19:16:39 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> Message-ID: <4830E307.7030003@sixdemonbag.org> Chris De Young wrote: > Is there a size limit imposed by Enigmail on encrypted messages? No, but there are size limits imposed by other parts of the Thunderbird + Enigmail + your OS + GnuPG system. Generally speaking, though, you shouldn't run into these unless you're passing around obscenely big files. > I have on a couple of occasions sent encrypted MIME messages with > attachments, but when trying to decrypt them I get the error "Error - > IMAP message too large to decrypt/verify". OpenPGP -> Preferences -> Check: "Display expert settings" Close the window and reopen it OpenPGP -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Uncheck: "Only download attachments when opened (IMAP only)" From chd at chud.net Sun May 18 21:39:33 2008 From: chd at chud.net (Chris De Young) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4830E307.7030003@sixdemonbag.org> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> <4830E307.7030003@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <48310485.50108@chud.net> That did the trick - thanks! :) -C Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Chris De Young wrote: >> Is there a size limit imposed by Enigmail on encrypted messages? > > No, but there are size limits imposed by other parts of the Thunderbird > + Enigmail + your OS + GnuPG system. Generally speaking, though, you > shouldn't run into these unless you're passing around obscenely big files. > >> I have on a couple of occasions sent encrypted MIME messages with >> attachments, but when trying to decrypt them I get the error "Error - >> IMAP message too large to decrypt/verify". > > OpenPGP -> > Preferences -> > Check: "Display expert settings" > > Close the window and reopen it > > OpenPGP -> > Preferences -> > Advanced -> > Uncheck: "Only download attachments when opened (IMAP only)" > > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 250 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080518/91ab545e/attachment.bin From shavital at mac.com Sun May 18 22:32:51 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 01:32:51 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail In-Reply-To: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> References: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <48311103.2060207@mac.com> Chris wrote the following on 5/18/08 3:53 PM: > Hello, > > I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. > I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. > > Can anyone please advise me if it is working. > > Thanks > Chris Your public key was downloaded automatically, and your signature verifies. What you sent to this list was a signed message, not an encrypted one, which is fine. You are not supposed to send encrypted messages to a list. OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from Chris Key ID: 0x2BA43C5F / Signed on: 5/18/08 3:53 PM Key fingerprint: A920 3C2F 8575 7093 853C 7434 04FF 162B 2BA4 3C5F Welcome and enjoy. Charly From faramir.cl at gmail.com Mon May 19 00:49:35 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 03:49:35 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail In-Reply-To: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> References: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4831310F.4020900@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris escribi?: > Hello, > > I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. > I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. > > Can anyone please advise me if it is working. > > Thanks > Chris It is working fine, the signature verifies. However, please note your message was not encrypted, it was signed (to prove it was written by you, and it was not tampered), but everybody can read it. Anyway, you can't (or you should not) send encrypted messages to a list, since you must encrypt messages using the public key of the one you want to read the message... If you want, you can send an encrypted message to me, I will tell you if it is working. You can obtain my public key from a keyserver, since this message will carry my signature, it should be easy to do. Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIMTEPAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAE90IAK16YjGo73jbm5ER3v4z8luV whxH/VcbVzaTiXFwRaxbCd/ezG23TnW+djCfiUq7rk3ePxBUwbhzSFWEbmw9X/TQ tJQJg/WzoH4dNuAh5J/SKiusoXisohx0RrEscpcvgNzNn6VJjr3hOZ/TjsbTWvr0 nU4iGLKxqXo73qwh8oB7wqtBkax6LCvKZkKS4eRa9Lm7EO33yW41PED8TNyy9PBs MKn17n+BeGiLAF5d/9CQmubmKVKpF/QtSgNmsEmImzir3wWrlx/sby5QM+z5rwFC 8I5ajld13PdSLFPKuXE2r/hW8SBt36PUV4g8+czOC5rzdqxsEONMeIBeEwV6yr8= =n83T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Mon May 19 00:54:44 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 03:54:44 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> Message-ID: <48313244.90805@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris De Young escribi?: > I'm using Enigmail 0.95.6, GnuPG 1.4.7, and Thunderbird 2.0.0.14, all > for Windows XP. Maybe you should upgrade to GnuPG 1.4.9, that is the current version,... I am not really sure how to upgrade, but probably in the GnuPG list you can get help about that. Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIMTJEAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAlkcH/jQfjOXXQT6l8MaGoRCfLnYj ANADRtfALX0wezPXwI8ADM/rnGIihF8IdoyS0zWbdCuUb7uIgHt14sOD1aMFp6Ia Gx5JA4bXxKaV+R8gpV/X/ndN83m+EPrDvc6GHFCAEjrctQSNDXP3hr+Wc2Cao/5r w0gSJ8/ReRXy90PxEmBlIfrrHbX+4zMJ1J0Tq69E6EGiTxSl2ITDE4uAwMNSqK2a InHJV2k2UMPmCc2bF55gHr0KbHCSRAOqA7yIVpqUkygp8ED+GKxvGt7Ot4pytxXM bdRL2LpbSVCPV52LydYw6iMzYhZRUKvogTou+3e4pSFSZCKzSwP/LHcKwFbSVkQ= =DYHy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Mon May 19 01:07:23 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 03:07:23 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <48313244.90805@gmail.com> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> <48313244.90805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> Faramir wrote: > Maybe you should upgrade to GnuPG 1.4.9, that is the current > version,... I am not really sure how to upgrade, but probably in the > GnuPG list you can get help about that. I may be wrong here, but I believe that's unnecessary. The difference from 1.4.7 --> 1.4.8 was the introduction of support for Windows Vista. However, when they introduced Vista support they also introduced a new bug, which led to the 1.4.9 release. The 1.4.9 release fixes a bug which does not exist in 1.4.7, making an upgrade kind of superfluous -- there are no security advisories against 1.4.7 for Windows, as far as I know. Warning: it's 3:00am and I don't run Windows. I may be barking mad. Take this with a grain of salt until you receive confirmation from others who stay more on top of Windows GnuPG than I do. From faramir.cl at gmail.com Mon May 19 01:58:44 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 04:58:44 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> <48313244.90805@gmail.com> <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <48314144.9010803@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen escribi?: > Faramir wrote: >> Maybe you should upgrade to GnuPG 1.4.9, that is the current >> version,... I am not really sure how to upgrade, but probably in the >> GnuPG list you can get help about that. > > I may be wrong here, but I believe that's unnecessary. > > The difference from 1.4.7 --> 1.4.8 was the introduction of support for > Windows Vista. However, when they introduced Vista support they also > introduced a new bug, which led to the 1.4.9 release. The 1.4.9 release > fixes a bug which does not exist in 1.4.7, making an upgrade kind of > superfluous -- there are no security advisories against 1.4.7 for > Windows, as far as I know. > > Warning: it's 3:00am and I don't run Windows. I may be barking mad. > Take this with a grain of salt until you receive confirmation from > others who stay more on top of Windows GnuPG than I do. Well, it says that 1.4.8 has "Minor bug fixes.", and some other features and fixes... but maybe these bugs where under vista, and not in XP, so maybe you are right... it is 4:50 am here, so I think I was reading the right web site... but maybe I was at playboy's web XD Anyway, one thing is clear... this message is not about enigmail, and I dont want to go too much off-topic (but maybe, since enigmail needs gnupg, and we are talking about bugs...). Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIMUFEAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA4zQIAKuEmmjISWmdk58i2vAO6de7 +WrhfZc3TSJ9QvDDuDqTmdWNqKMxOrGosWgpHvccAti66tidB6Yz+lCJRWGdnwuB 7WSDl/y78do544cUlbBnUEVG9GazHqEZ/UyD7PkyJ1ZsoSDfDFM3AqJTDuFSFwO7 rqNc3g2mtwQiqFfSQrc85G2kpP1i6NKx8/eS87sk8W5dIZmpwCjSblUNa6ZtULEY zNrTrIbFpHpPkTL5Un5XIh7mEB5xwnZr3XpI3KpmlhJ52B/v0FWUPq+ZQONk9odz kNII/nxcm9yMpVEysu7xbkoTxiKhE4XezL/+PyNfZafzROrJ1nqMDQtwu228X+Y= =Zo8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From xp8re8 at gmail.com Sun May 18 16:48:53 2008 From: xp8re8 at gmail.com (Chris) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:48:53 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail In-Reply-To: <4830BD56.1040800@bellsouth.net> References: <48308943.1060705@googlemail.com> <4830BD56.1040800@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4830C065.2050302@googlemail.com> Thanks John, I have just uploaded my Key to pool.sks-keyservers.net Hope this helps. Chris John W. Moore III wrote: > Chris wrote: > > > I am sending this email as my first one encrypted using Enigmail. > > I am using the Quick Start Guide to guide me. > > > Can anyone please advise me if it is working. > > At first blush it /appears/ to be working. Since I was unable to obtain > Your Key from a Keyserver I am unable to verify the Sig. > > Please either Upload Your Key to a Keyserver or Post a Link where it may > be found. > > JOHN ;) > Timestamp: Sunday 18 May 2008, 19:35 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From JPClizbe at tx.rr.com Mon May 19 12:05:09 2008 From: JPClizbe at tx.rr.com (John Clizbe) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:05:09 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> <48313244.90805@gmail.com> <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <4831CF65.3090803@tx.rr.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Faramir wrote: >> Maybe you should upgrade to GnuPG 1.4.9, that is the current >> version,... I am not really sure how to upgrade, but probably in the >> GnuPG list you can get help about that. Download installer from GnuPG.org. Run installer. Accept default answers. > I may be wrong here, but I believe that's unnecessary. Most likely unnecessary. 1.4.7 should be safe. 1.4.8 should be upgraded > The difference from 1.4.7 --> 1.4.8 was the introduction of support for > Windows Vista. However, when they introduced Vista support they also > introduced a new bug, which led to the 1.4.9 release. The 1.4.9 release > fixes a bug which does not exist in 1.4.7, making an upgrade kind of > superfluous -- there are no security advisories against 1.4.7 for > Windows, as far as I know. Please don't conflate these two issues. The introduction of Vista support had nothing to do with the security bug introduced in 1.4.8 other than both were in 1.4.8. The two events occurred nearly six months apart. The security issue affects ALL platforms, not just Windows Vista, or any particular flavor of Windows in that regard. The security issue was possible memory corruption when importing OpenPGP keys and removing duplicate user IDs. See bug 894 or the commit log for r4712 (2008-03-23). (Code introduced in r4576, 2007-09-02) "Vista support" had to do with the calling of access() and Vista paying attention to a previously ignored return value. r4461 (2007-03-14). The bug affected the calling of the keyserver helper programs, nothing more. - -- John P. Clizbe Inet: JPClizbe (a) tx DAWT rr DAHT con Ginger Bear Networks hkp://keyserver.gingerbear.net "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr Seuss, "Oh the Places You'll Go" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10-svn4754-2008-04-30 (Windows XP) Comment: When cryptography is outlawed, b25seSBvdXRsYXdzIHdpbGwgdXNlIG Comment: Be part of the ?33t ECHELON -- Use Strong Encryption. Comment: It's YOUR right - for the time being. Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iJwEAQECAAYFAkgxz14ACgkQvh+YERi7Nzpp6QP+LKK0rJ4GXgqDmlQovPHQ10kc gvmcqVcnXQ4cUGlaweTFlXzAFtYNEQWx7XtRGTp7fB5WEGUK3XrkeMkP8vph7KUl O2Hl3cafBnxr5YhZhD6Nf61c17I8pdn2gfjw3GZgi70ZLX78a5DWzAerjE17qWFz ix7nBoznogA9v5bv/KOIRgQBEQIABgUCSDHPXgAKCRAdBKxKYI0qEGNHAKCEoO/W ryuhC+BL8BJ+7Hi2mU18GACg7jthd0NUPeANNW2HOJOqFCpTa38= =xbR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Mon May 19 12:57:08 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Size limit for encrypted messages? In-Reply-To: <4831CF65.3090803@tx.rr.com> References: <4830D421.7080305@chud.net> <48313244.90805@gmail.com> <4831353B.5060606@sixdemonbag.org> <4831CF65.3090803@tx.rr.com> Message-ID: <4831DB94.7020207@sixdemonbag.org> John Clizbe wrote: >> The difference from 1.4.7 --> 1.4.8 was the introduction of support for >> Windows Vista. However, when they introduced Vista support they also >> introduced a new bug, which led to the 1.4.9 release. The 1.4.9 release >> fixes a bug which does not exist in 1.4.7, making an upgrade kind of >> superfluous -- there are no security advisories against 1.4.7 for >> Windows, as far as I know. > > Please don't conflate these two issues. Right, I was being too glib there -- I plead early morning and no coffee. I should have been more careful to make it clear the new bug was introduced in the same release, not that it was introduced as a consequence of the Vista support. From newsaccount at XXRemoveXXkfwebs.net Tue May 20 11:14:12 2008 From: newsaccount at XXRemoveXXkfwebs.net (Kristian Fiskerstrand) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:14:12 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Newb testing Enigmal! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Clayton Simons wrote, On 05/14/2008 06:46 PM: > We'll I've been using Thunderbird for sometime, but now am ready to > venture out on some of the cool supported plug-ins. Is there still no > easy way to use this and still have HTML on? Thanks. > > -C The signature failed because of line-wrapping issues (removing the linebreaks gives a good signature. Please set your composer to wrap at 72 characters. (preferences -> composition -> general) as for HTML support, HTML in emails is typically bad. I favor that the recipient should be the one to decide how an email is to be shown. That said, you can use HTML in combination with OpenPGP/MIME . That said, read up on Outlook's lack of competability with MIME before using this too extensively. Yours sincerely - -- - ---------------------------- Kristian Fiskerstrand http://www.kfwebs.net - ---------------------------- Uxor formosa et vinum sunt dulcia venena Beautiful women and wine are sweet venom - ---------------------------- http://www.secure-my-email.com http://www.secure-my-internet.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBSDMU9Bbgz41rC5UIAQg5og//dsFlmj3gC8Z2hLc7C2L8FJmJ1NgMlIrw mIczNwDyl0+xdXg4prefqX8uH+HT454oAghdOHvESXTLDvLIl0qyhj0wDfowOMPH 63xIXxHz122HxzYRqLl53ge+Qg46//ueonBxbTtNnlXLhbIwvphD5+2A57fdrYRx rEvJL2jZloFAWMYFS9QuMIwTEPmx7YwHuIuCOGrSdjm8mlJ8+O+GvJrPwLGV1MXM BDjjTP2mYP5B+b9fHFrs3J40uHMRgaK2TxvAfvokO5QJM/67dycMouuPrDhyjHJM qFT7FF5PaTRU6PdCg1F+7gyfYh/ouW07DWNYJ7x3V+JBaxSi7u7SlQOtyPOPQFjz 0e/2dQm7qf6uoreMf6mfJXG2o0h+razVZzUMSPFihxkCRcs4tdRqDrqLta3Tonpx L0Ux27ybDtY970L1Alwg8gBGLVKFCMrIIkbNGU57cPu3cGSatgrAKm0mMPwmBNIB ZkH5VJRguXSXOWhTI3psBYETTKJc82NFPOXO7M8ZBvuvpLiaNMZ65PTc9h69KFHd jaQEZh/YE5acQ9HVv4UUrhvtbCIsvnk8VHJ0PhTYYp6OAJhi9Q995WnV6lz6O9Q4 DBX6up3AIej9xy9FsOI1+HCL2/1gr9O016rYgYh3DHBmMdJZOiJ/3TD46bqsxdiF eaF/fTzjIl4= =7eFj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Tue May 20 13:08:18 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Newb testing Enigmal! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48332FB2.9020307@sixdemonbag.org> Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > as for HTML support, HTML in emails is typically bad. I'm not certain this is accurate. "Bad" is a value judgment. HTML can be a route by which malicious hackers can hijack your system, or do other nefarious things. HTML is also not supported by all email clients. However, HTML can also produce output that is more pleasing to the eye, easier to read, and more conducive towards the recipient's understanding. Like most things in life, there are tradeoffs involved. Speaking for myself, I choose to send plain text emails the vast majority of the time. There are some instances where HTML is useful, though, and I'm not going to declare HTML mail as bad when there are some very good uses for it. > I favor that the recipient should be the one to decide how an email > is to be shown. This is still the case even with HTML. From faramir.cl at gmail.com Tue May 20 20:03:14 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:03:14 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Newb testing Enigmal! In-Reply-To: <48332FB2.9020307@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48332FB2.9020307@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <483390F2.5000207@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen escribi?: > Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> I favor that the recipient should be the one to decide how an email >> is to be shown. > > This is still the case even with HTML. I like the Thunderbird feature that allows to send the messages in both formats, and the recipient "chose" which one to use... however, I am not sure if other email clients are capable of "choosing"... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIM5DyAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAxFAH/1Clj0bJyyuwr4I1JMs/B6Sm FZVug80L6Are9VlHj8vJsorcg49PVrZz8L0ijOCkeigRy5kgErw7l6SDOLL5yUkJ 91qcyLa5MpVGvmI96XdW1q9Uxy4TlyASbEt9DwbUDCZiJc2SRJoqBTzIcS3B+yOm 8hfrBrZbAA4CMJFCsmlfgjnHgaLJcKmlyo6qMuKFOb6ToEeeQj13vsYK7BVUrnT9 LANTFIbTGAnvsGxAwPOinnYAerqbD1vL5phIcNDOhfrCoc2hGpJ833U5HPst3BL3 K/SP5KZvyCV7JWZE5MypS2pSuqMsbLGZQpffa77a1zSC4UPsJzYOTf/z0AGILto= =48VW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ben at links.org Tue May 20 14:05:54 2008 From: ben at links.org (Ben Laurie) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:05:54 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Prompting for unknown users? Message-ID: <48333D32.9090804@links.org> I noticed that at some point Enigmail stopped prompting me for rules for new users. Has this happened to others? Did something change with the setup I need to do? (note: not subscribed to the list). Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.links.org/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff From herpers at wiso.uni-koeln.de Tue May 20 22:28:24 2008 From: herpers at wiso.uni-koeln.de (Sascha Herpers) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:28:24 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working Message-ID: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> Hello, on my newly installed notebook I tried to get enigmal to decrypt my mails. It doesn't work. Here are the details: The Enigmail Console says: enigmail> C:\Programme\Windows Privacy Tools\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 --keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve --keyserver pgp.mit.edu, subkeys.pgp.net, ldap://certserver.pgp.com, random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de -d --passphrase-fd 0 --no-use-agent usage: gpg [options] [filename] enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution I installed a new version of gnupg (1.4.9) and copied the executables to C:\Programme\Windows Privacy Tools\GnuPG\, but that didn't help. I reinstalled enigmal with no success. Changing the trust level of the keys in question didn't help either. When trying to decrypt a file manually, everything works as expected. Some version infos: enigmail 0.95.6 (20080101) gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.9 thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (20080421) Any ideas? Thanks, Sascha -- _____________________________________________________________ Sascha Herpers Universit?t zu K?ln Seminar f?r Supply Chain Management und Produktion Albertus-Magnus-Platz 50923 K?ln E-Mail: herpers at wiso.uni-koeln.de Tel.: (0221) 4 70 - 37 40 Fax: (0221) 4 70 - 51 40 WWW: http://www.scmp.uni-koeln.de _____________________________________________________________ From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Tue May 20 23:46:28 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:46:28 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sascha Herpers wrote: > Hello, > > on my newly installed notebook I tried to get enigmal to decrypt my > mails. It doesn't work. Here are the details: > > The Enigmail Console says: > enigmail> C:\Programme\Windows Privacy Tools\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset > utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 --keyserver-options > auto-key-retrieve --keyserver pgp.mit.edu, subkeys.pgp.net, > ldap://certserver.pgp.com, random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de -d > --passphrase-fd 0 --no-use-agent > usage: gpg [options] [filename] > enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > I installed a new version of gnupg (1.4.9) and copied the executables to > C:\Programme\Windows Privacy Tools\GnuPG\, but that didn't help. > > I reinstalled enigmal with no success. > Changing the trust level of the keys in question didn't help either. > > When trying to decrypt a file manually, everything works as expected. > > Some version infos: > enigmail 0.95.6 (20080101) > gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.9 > thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (20080421) > > Any ideas? You seem to have entered more than one keyserver for automatic key downloading (under OpenPGP > Preferences Keyserver). However, GnuPG only understands exactly one entry in that field. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDPFQ3cOpHodsOiwAQKzeQf+KMOWTrKrnRmCMGvXULt6dbqq0yBupwER PXpSp+hPoa7Fj9Ch98MCkzroxhjOjG6qCRSZq9yIB4KZr+FFvJMkIRdx1ZVqitCX AjH8QS0y0LVqTnVZkzQ7WcZUoxi1hHBaXY4g8d+KVJop7Okjoxc37EnDPxg6TE/5 DF8JvTGiu+aFx8Xyu/GapGhawCHsEtcgnDfP9AimmlXquUmHpUUeTirAZjqkF2x4 38wsPj8rbrsSQqnvBaspXOU9d67+6Iv0hELMStmNH29dcDJW+jz9X6EeqolHIfV8 +YiPhT5CyFfXQTtHzISFFfcLAnv6zNfGu7ootG+doVYTmn/YoFtcog== =3fvH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sascha.herpers at uni-koeln.de Wed May 21 01:06:22 2008 From: sascha.herpers at uni-koeln.de (Sascha Herpers) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:06:22 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> Hi, > You seem to have entered more than one keyserver for automatic key > downloading (under OpenPGP > Preferences Keyserver). However, GnuPG only > understands exactly one entry in that field. doh! Yes, that was the problem. Thanks _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -- _____________________________________________________________ Sascha Herpers Universit?t zu K?ln Seminar f?r Supply Chain Management und Produktion Albertus-Magnus-Platz 50923 K?ln E-Mail: herpers at wiso.uni-koeln.de Tel.: (0221) 4 70 - 37 40 Fax: (0221) 4 70 - 51 40 WWW: http://www.scmp.uni-koeln.de _____________________________________________________________ From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Wed May 21 05:02:49 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Prompting for unknown users? In-Reply-To: <48333D32.9090804@links.org> References: <48333D32.9090804@links.org> Message-ID: <48340F69.2060608@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ben Laurie wrote: > I noticed that at some point Enigmail stopped prompting me for rules for > new users. > > Has this happened to others? Did something change with the setup I need > to do? Have You been utilizing the 'Create Per-Recipient Rule' button from the Key Selection screen? You may already have a Rule in place now for Your recipients. Did You check the box under 'Preferences' that says Key Selection should be done using Email Address or Rules? If so then Enigmail is selecting the proper Key to use based upon the Recipients Email Address. Quick Rule of thumb; You should Subscribe to the List at: https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail since the 'unwritten Rule' is "Ask here; Receive Answer here." :) HTH JOHN ;) Timestamp: Wednesday 21 May 2008, 08:01 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJINA9lAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPB08H/igOfz/MrUDY0eDq2sEEt8X5 V15Pn73Bbb8fU/EZzNC3P6gdtNZ0ZlIJcd7x7GuPx8owOg4eTFu/Zy/Hfig4zfkZ V0G+CrPwRbiDqYg6zjQXMse9O+o7MlmlbTf71P87CCsTh1XkMGtlr/Eg9Svltukr RlPDhrWot9ka1WyLXe2phknCezgRoFPEj5Au9uOmr1NNYRuXs5B82kN7y1mBehwd pRCns3em1AEzPb6zY5i6W34cRZARy5xspLtoq/yUzQdshyGTIXbdu+YJzxoipfL3 tSfQ5wkNJ95YMKRdCfDqVMUlhdyDXAf2z5V2VexjttGr9lvcLfLF4tkX/evwqZc= =2YYY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeandavid8 at verizon.net Wed May 21 06:49:55 2008 From: jeandavid8 at verizon.net (Jean-David Beyer) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:49:55 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sascha Herpers wrote: > Hi, > >> You seem to have entered more than one keyserver for automatic key >> downloading (under OpenPGP > Preferences Keyserver). However, GnuPG >> only understands exactly one entry in that field. > doh! Yes, that was the problem. > Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: Keyserver(s): which implies that you can specify more than one. In fact, I have more than one specified. Am I kidding myself? - -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 09:45:01 up 37 min, 3 users, load average: 4.29, 4.23, 3.77 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINCiCPtu2XpovyZoRAtxaAJ0T3gjJrL/YEJ6P8FN5+IFmFP2SLwCcD3qV AGKt3yudVxc+K1SlnDJL5u4= =Iujb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Wed May 21 06:58:14 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:58:14 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48342A76.6010705@hammernoch.net> Hi, Jean-David Beyer wrote on 21.05.2008 15:49 Uhr: (... only one keyserver allowed in Enigmails Preferences...) > Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: > > Keyserver(s): > > which implies that you can specify more than one. > In fact, I have more than one specified. > Am I kidding myself? No, you're using linux. Using more than one keyservers is obviously only a problem on windows. I'm using a long string of 6 keyservers on Mac OS X and it's working flawlessly. Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080521/feab45c8/attachment.bin From shavital at mac.com Wed May 21 07:11:25 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48342D8D.2000305@mac.com> Jean-David Beyer wrote: [...] > > Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: > > Keyserver(s): > > which implies that you can specify more than one. Yes, you can specify more than one, and then select whichever you like when presented with a menu that enables that choice; e.g., when setting the Per Recipient Rules for your address, being presented with the list of available keys, clicking 'search keys', and selecting one of the keyservers I have set in the above field, I could download your key: -------- gpg: requesting key 9A2FC99A from hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net gpg: key 9A2FC99A: "Jean-David Beyer (Institute for Regimented Whimsey) " 1 new user ID gpg: key 9A2FC99A: "Jean-David Beyer (Institute for Regimented Whimsey) " 3 new signatures gpg: key 9A2FC99A: "Jean-David Beyer (Institute for Regimented Whimsey) " 2 new subkeys gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model gpg: depth: 0 valid: 28 signed: 68 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 28u gpg: depth: 1 valid: 68 signed: 47 trust: 60-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 8f, 0u gpg: depth: 2 valid: 13 signed: 16 trust: 13-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u gpg: next trustdb check due at 2008-08-17 gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: new user IDs: 1 gpg: new subkeys: 2 gpg: new signatures: 3 ----- I could download your key, import it into my keyring and set it for encryption to you if needed. But see the lower option for *automatic* download of keys, where it indicates ....from the following keyserver... Charly From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 21 07:49:57 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:49:57 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jean-David Beyer wrote: > Sascha Herpers wrote: >> Hi, > >>> You seem to have entered more than one keyserver for automatic key >>> downloading (under OpenPGP > Preferences Keyserver). However, GnuPG >>> only understands exactly one entry in that field. >> doh! Yes, that was the problem. > > Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: > > Keyserver(s): > > which implies that you can specify more than one. > In fact, I have more than one specified. > Am I kidding myself? There are to fields: There is the field "Specify your keyserver(s)" where you can specify as many keyservers as you like (that's what you talk about). And then there is the field "Automatically download keys for signature verification from the following keyserver" (that I'm talking about), and in that field you can only enter exactly one server. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDQ2lHcOpHodsOiwAQIMyAf7BQzljk9MGxPgZspHeaKBO8dLrjsa8q7U XNIrP80pz6vgIwDLfubJ/+2w2h+YT6MYlF3CUVOGwT26NP1lVPRoTyyruhqKlnAj UFucs0B/gUokDuRHLYaC6dMc8vfo9fdmf5fUqTV9nIxmM7wNh7JVm7MVYf5fD/07 hNp9107CVICMu2UhleUD/xvigdiYi9qvpcvI+1WVISh7ZS6D+kPge05HUOjMrl7N fSJ2YUBe71S1cDN9ebsae33/AsBepI2ghyis6pxgbpGGBhGWC9g5q0ZhQ0NCu3u0 8OufiHTkp3a6jnpEy4FvF454jytYSLLymN6ezZXtGzKsdkSqz/rt1Q== =EOrP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Wed May 21 07:57:35 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:57:35 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48342A76.6010705@hammernoch.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48342A76.6010705@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <4834385F.5030801@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ludwig H?gelsch?fer wrote: > Jean-David Beyer wrote on 21.05.2008 15:49 Uhr: > > (... only one keyserver allowed in Enigmails Preferences...) > >> Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: >> >> Keyserver(s): >> >> which implies that you can specify more than one. >> In fact, I have more than one specified. >> Am I kidding myself? > > No, you're using linux. > > Using more than one keyservers is obviously only a problem on windows. > > I'm using a long string of 6 keyservers on Mac OS X and it's working > flawlessly. There are 2 boxes on the 'Keyserver' Tab under Preferences. The 'top' box accepts a string of several Keyservers and these will appear in the Keyserver selection context Menu when manually searching for a Key. The 'bottom' box accepts only 1 Keyserver and is used for Automatic Key Retrieval. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Wednesday 21 May 2008, 10:57 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJINDheAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPTk0H/jc9AjrJKTObuyuMaDIHDjf/ kjwwEGgIJY3njPd30+e+d0ZLIdVkNytu7neRpKQ/9ZTGTcqF2R735Jb8Ven1drqW 5OFAZWaWsxVFU4vyBzhZ+FB+pxSVxm420QAd0hKUFUYWFWWtbbgtJmuWf0CeRl+x TUx6D3+kFl9QXwPHxMYO7MYKtXospYxfWuNuL+6XWQPX+ZYFCgcHCi0HtTc4fBlT ge3HIIK3RiPWSquz089PsnI90fcgfM0iMeQ9S8ZoUNEmPBGgop/qiLjE/gNWqt8e rAFx8fnJMRqoFKo18CY5vaqtpkhhxYsfupKA9c12ERj+BJlE5V6oitSdtQM26A8= =JJuy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Wed May 21 08:14:17 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:14:17 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <4834385F.5030801@bellsouth.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48342A76.6010705@hammernoch.net> <4834385F.5030801@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <48343C49.50109@hammernoch.net> Hi, John W. Moore III wrote on 21.05.2008 16:57 Uhr: >> Using more than one keyservers is obviously only a problem on windows. > >> I'm using a long string of 6 keyservers on Mac OS X and it's working >> flawlessly. > > There are 2 boxes on the 'Keyserver' Tab under Preferences. The 'top' > box accepts a string of several Keyservers and these will appear in the > Keyserver selection context Menu when manually searching for a Key. > > The 'bottom' box accepts only 1 Keyserver and is used for Automatic Key > Retrieval. I see :-) I never did enter a keyserver there, I always used gpg.conf with multiple "keyserver" lines. A good working software couple like Enigmail and gnupg sometimes makes blind for other options ;-) Thanks to you and Patrick for clarifying! Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080521/15d6fc9d/attachment.bin From jeandavid8 at verizon.net Wed May 21 11:40:10 2008 From: jeandavid8 at verizon.net (Jean-David Beyer) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Brunschwig wrote: > Jean-David Beyer wrote: >>> Sascha Herpers wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>>> You seem to have entered more than one keyserver for automatic key >>>>> downloading (under OpenPGP > Preferences Keyserver). However, GnuPG >>>>> only understands exactly one entry in that field. >>>> doh! Yes, that was the problem. >>> Why would that be? If I open the window, it says: >>> >>> Keyserver(s): >>> >>> which implies that you can specify more than one. >>> In fact, I have more than one specified. >>> Am I kidding myself? > > There are t[w]o fields: There is the field "Specify your keyserver(s)" > where you can specify as many keyservers as you like (that's what you > talk about). And then there is the field "Automatically download keys > for signature verification from the following keyserver" (that I'm > talking about), and in that field you can only enter exactly one server. > Not for me. There is only what you call the "Specify your keyserver(s)" field, but no field called "Automatically download keys > for signature verification from the following keyserver". - -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 14:35:01 up 5:27, 3 users, load average: 4.15, 4.24, 4.25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFINGyKPtu2XpovyZoRAiL9AJ0b/6sKgy6Jr391LtCPJDb/wKNp7QCbBmX+ FmyfL0KH7rW2qpo8iFcFlMg= =kmYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 21 12:21:08 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:21:08 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48347624.3010204@mac.com> Jean-David Beyer wrote the following on 5/21/08 2:40 PM: [...] > Not for me. There is only what you call the "Specify your keyserver(s)" > field, but no field called "Automatically download keys >> for signature verification from the following keyserver". Jean-David, According to your message's raw source, it seems that you are running: User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070317), and X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0. I don't remember what Enigmail's 0.94.0 OpenPGPG Preferences looked like, but Enigmail's changelog shows that'Automatically download missing keys from keyserver' was introduced with 0.93.0. Maybe you would consider upgrading both your Thunderbird and Enigmail's versions to the current stable releases (for Linux as well) TB 2.0.0.14 and Enigmail 0.95.6 or even 0.96a, then you surely would have the two Keyserver fields that are available. Best regards, Charly I'm a Mac user, but I run also Ubuntu 8.04 under virtual ware Parallels, TB 2.0.0.14 and Enigmail 0.96.a, and believe me, those two fields are available under OpenPGP Preferences (Expert mode). Charly From faramir.cl at gmail.com Wed May 21 18:31:13 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:31:13 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4834CCE1.2010407@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jean-David Beyer escribi?: > Patrick Brunschwig wrote: >> There are t[w]o fields: There is the field "Specify your keyserver(s)" >> where you can specify as many keyservers as you like (that's what you >> talk about). And then there is the field "Automatically download keys >> for signature verification from the following keyserver" (that I'm >> talking about), and in that field you can only enter exactly one server. > > Not for me. There is only what you call the "Specify your keyserver(s)" > field, but no field called "Automatically download keys >> for signature verification from the following keyserver". X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070317) Maybe that can be the reason? Old Thunderbird client and old Enigmail ? Since I am have not used Enigmail for long, I don't know when that feature was added... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJINMzhAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAhtoH/jNM5IPE1/g1d5SuD/l/oCq6 HTIEMIaMwrQgwGdaPymD3Wf3IMQBDGBHvSCY4HlvZyAUVR7swMirWDvk5XjsjoNx 5oIBQQGLb742N2PbY9WnYFgR+xrwCs+yDTEJ+7MrO2B/4mj49s/L+RbkNat34sMn JuZLk4DHHTfO5zm/BGGov27CogfOaXbEN81Fn8kdfV6UBxQnVup8vslOnqZKP/UL a3gg5GDFrbguyx4uqR8dNPc3Sl82HUboRh90xiM5QrqrLkMJNUrAZPFUPXIVCcKu 8W7AEiFUk+SneEKV+y3m1rWL9Odlf7AX7OMtER+W4wZjoJL94wYHbnLtWYqJclA= =VEvL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Wed May 21 23:46:34 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:46:34 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] decryption not working In-Reply-To: <48347624.3010204@mac.com> References: <4833B2F8.6090303@wiso.uni-koeln.de> <4833C544.8050408@mozilla-enigmail.org> <4833D7FE.9050406@uni-koeln.de> <48342883.9010008@verizon.net> <48343695.6030106@mozilla-enigmail.org> <48346C8A.1050701@verizon.net> <48347624.3010204@mac.com> Message-ID: <483516CA.1020800@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital wrote: > Jean-David Beyer wrote the following on 5/21/08 2:40 PM: > [...] > >> Not for me. There is only what you call the "Specify your keyserver(s)" >> field, but no field called "Automatically download keys >>> for signature verification from the following keyserver". > > Jean-David, > > According to your message's raw source, it seems that you are running: > User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070317), > and > X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0. > > I don't remember what Enigmail's 0.94.0 OpenPGPG Preferences looked > like, but Enigmail's changelog shows that'Automatically download missing > keys from keyserver' was introduced with 0.93.0. Right, the feature was introduced in 0.93.0, but the functionality and the preference settings have changed with v0.95.0. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDUWyXcOpHodsOiwAQJUugf9FV4Pg1jMyY7LeGmCh5lVEgWP3bzWqwfz /Du1KZEo07LNgWF5WrE8HddA43Tl1E3eKX5vjpm8PX6oeylA4LN2oAg8ZivlwpXW Bgdzy604JCaS9UlF0X4ZEvqh5GEaLrarBxAm5GQ5FaLgPaXBLCRm9n5IhlVq/0uS HX/rE7OLwFtaq4K3JxtcKkZsujGkHd0//mQBt5sDHV0Xf5GCVrjNiFuHkbqumGiI kl+V/k7ngIaYES+rsPpMUOF3bnjffV0NrU2PAgn8wtk9+LclTRsKos0ViDKZC/KM zHq2o+unOG4F52NAR468kNch+Dvx98C0/vlGEsoqf4yfQJrK7Pcufg== =qxjI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stephan at flashap.co.uk Sat May 24 10:49:36 2008 From: stephan at flashap.co.uk (stephan) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:49:36 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] New user Message-ID: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I just installed Enigmail and would like to test it. Thanks *Stephan Steyn* *M:* 07745 777 735 *T:* 0121 288 6775 *E:* stephan.steyn at flashap.co.uk *W:* www.flashap.co.uk Add me to Skype Get Skype and call me for free. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg4VTAACgkQH3X+dkwkLjG5kgCfc3XtcB14bCzPGdkYPCQrzmKa RmkAn0gC5eafn1GKPtOyD9cWaf6f2L+H =WTE7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sat May 24 11:13:30 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 13:13:30 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] New user In-Reply-To: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> References: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> Message-ID: <48385ACA.2000009@sixdemonbag.org> stephan wrote: > I just installed Enigmail and would like to test it. All looks well here. From mlisten at hammernoch.net Sat May 24 11:23:05 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ludwig_H=FCgelsch=E4fer?=) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:23:05 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] New user In-Reply-To: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> References: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> Message-ID: <48385D09.8020408@hammernoch.net> Hi, stephan wrote on 24.05.2008 19:49 Uhr: > Hi there, > > I just installed Enigmail and would like to test it. Seems to be working: UNTRUSTED Good signature from stephan Key ID: 0x4C242E31 / Signed on: 24.05.2008 19:49 Uhr Key fingerprint: 01BE 6C0C 7E07 7239 A902 9AF2 1F75 FE76 4C24 2E31 :-) If you want to ask further questions - which would be quite usual after a news installation - you might want to subscribe to the enigmail mailing list at http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail/ Regards Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080524/92fa84b9/attachment.bin From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sat May 24 11:27:35 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] New user In-Reply-To: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> References: <48385530.1080208@flashap.co.uk> Message-ID: <48385E17.10309@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 stephan wrote: > I just installed Enigmail and would like to test it. Good Job! Appears to be working. UNTRUSTED Good signature from stephan Key ID: 0x4C242E31 / Signed on: 5/24/2008 1:49 PM Key fingerprint: 01BE 6C0C 7E07 7239 A902 9AF2 1F75 FE76 4C24 2E31 JOHN ;) Timestamp: Saturday 24 May 2008, 14:27 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIOF4VAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPsskIAKF/PjsRcS4l1CtdKDju0XRf ejTGozJghWdwjdYODODby8uIMgLttos0z4MyHLxo8bdVfuFJZWVC7EXzTEIloUCa eSqhnn/JGBO7VGro3PhS4F6r5pfxNhH1zQRy6Il4He1S6Z43w2oEEdLbUdlD+tIw VVId6DLsvNiE8iJw5Kg/G1gOkoUrDx1lAh5I40Yzmc3ilPf2TUW9+qJ2ZqrvpRK3 ebG3i4KWA7v28eMRjcN1bOTiVsHqWqVR5xObQvT6iw/S+Fff2PW+5fDERyNqNaNx v8vBt5ZRLiaIFS4O7Nu3XqdoUzRLJ48SbWNfry6HddA0EGdHh1WiaYndO3Vcg58= =DfuG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martin.maier at gnupg.info Sat May 24 13:40:43 2008 From: martin.maier at gnupg.info (Martin Maier) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:40:43 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) Message-ID: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> Hi all, I think one of the most importend things to increase the usability of Enigmail with Thunderbird, would be to make the sending to a mixture group of recipients (some recipients with and some one without gpg key) more comfortable. Now the problem is, if you want to send an email to a group of recipients and there is at least one recipients which dosn't have any gpg key (doesn't support receiving encrypted mails), you can only choose between sending encrypted or unencrypted but there is no alternative between. If you choose sending encrypted, only the recipients in key list can read the message. If you choose sending unencrypted, all recipients also the recipients in gpg key list, get the message unencrypted. The improvement to wish would be an additional alternative e.g. named "mixture recipients" which automatic send the email encrypted to the recipents with gpg key and a copy of same email unencrypted to the recipients without gpg support! Greetings, Martin Maier ---------- german / deutsch: ----------------- Hallo die Runde, eine der wichtigsten Funktionen um die Benutzbarkeit von Enigmail mit Thunderbird meiner Meinung nach zu verbessern, w?re automatisches Senden an eine gemischte Empf?ngergruppe zu unterst?tzen. Unter gemischter Empf?ngergruppe verstehe ich, wenn ein E-Mail gleichzeitig an Empf?nger mit GPG-Schl?ssel (von denen ein Schl?ssel im Schl?sselbund ist, ein GPG-Schl?ssel bekannt ist) und welchen ohne GPG-Unterst?tzung gesendet werden soll. Das Problem dabei ist, da? momentan das E-Mail nur entweder verschl?sselt gesendet werden kann aber f?r die Empf?nger ohne GPG-Unterst?tzung unleserlich ist, oder bei unverschl?sselter Sendung auch jene Empf?nger dessen Schl?ssel im Schl?sselbund sind, unverschl?sselt versendet wird. Die zu w?nschende Verbesserung w?re, da? sobald ein E-Mail an eine gemischte Empf?ngergruppe gesendet werden soll, das E-Mail automatisch an alle Empf?nger ohne GPG unverschl?sselt versendet wird und eine Kopie des E-Mails f?r alle Empf?nger dessen Schl?ssel im Schl?sselbund ist und ev. auch Empf?ngerregeln bestehen, die verschl?sselte Version des E-Mails gesendet wird. Gerade f?r Anf?nger sollte der Versand m?glichst vereinfacht werden. Nat?rlich k?nnte man sich fragen warum man ?berhaupt dann ein E-Mail an einen Teil der Empf?nger verschl?sselt versenden m?chte, wenn ein anderer Teil der Empf?nger ohnehin das gleiche E-Mail unverschl?sselt erh?lt? Aber es w?rde einiges dabei helfen, Freunde und Bekannten von OpenPGP zu ?berzeugen, da sie sobald sie einmal OpenPGP haben zb. auch gerne Newsletter verschl?sselt empfangen w?rden - ganz nach dem Motto wenn schon denn schon :-) W?rde mich freuen wenn die Entwicklung auch in Zukunft weiter in Richtung Einfachheit und Benutzbarkeit geht, damit die Verbreitung von OpenPGP gr??er wird und nicht nur eine Idee bleibt, die in der Praxis zu kompliziert zu handhaben ist!!!! Gr??e, Martin Maier From oberon at qwest.net Sat May 24 14:11:03 2008 From: oberon at qwest.net (Oberon) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:11:03 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <48388467.50600@qwest.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Maier wrote: | Hi all, | I think one of the most importend things to increase the usability of | Enigmail with Thunderbird, would be to make the sending to a mixture | group of recipients (some recipients with and some one without gpg key) | more comfortable. Now the problem is, if you want to send an email to a | group of recipients and there is at least one recipients which dosn't | have any gpg key (doesn't support receiving encrypted mails), you can | only choose between sending encrypted or unencrypted but there is no | alternative between. | | If you choose sending encrypted, only the recipients in key list can | read the message. If you choose sending unencrypted, all recipients | also the recipients in gpg key list, get the message unencrypted. | | The improvement to wish would be an additional alternative e.g. named | "mixture recipients" which automatic send the email encrypted to the | recipents with gpg key and a copy of same email unencrypted to the | recipients without gpg support! Doing the "mixed" option you describe totally negates the purpose of encryption. If you send an open copy over the web, anyone can read it, so why bother with encryption at all? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows XP) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOIRnSJ7e4CqUgM0RAkvrAKDFip+Yjh25iWzFB5R0Dk87ZkAO4wCgtGYs ROT7iZ/8Dca1ut7Om12XzCk= =q+BR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alaric at metrocast.net Sat May 24 14:11:32 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:11:32 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Martin Maier wrote: | Hi all, | I think one of the most importend things to increase the usability of | Enigmail with Thunderbird, would be to make the sending to a mixture | group of recipients (some recipients with and some one without gpg key) | more comfortable. Now the problem is, if you want to send an email to a | group of recipients and there is at least one recipients which dosn't | have any gpg key (doesn't support receiving encrypted mails), you can | only choose between sending encrypted or unencrypted but there is no | alternative between. | | If you choose sending encrypted, only the recipients in key list can | read the message. If you choose sending unencrypted, all recipients | also the recipients in gpg key list, get the message unencrypted. | | The improvement to wish would be an additional alternative e.g. named | "mixture recipients" which automatic send the email encrypted to the | recipents with gpg key and a copy of same email unencrypted to the | recipients without gpg support! | | Greetings, | Martin Maier I don't see this as either practical or desirable, honestly. It seems to me it would greatly increase the likelihood of inadvertently exposing sensitive information. Suppose, for example, you have a confidential message that you wish to send to eight people, all of whom you have keys for. When addressing the message, though, you inadvertently select one incorrect email address that is very similar to one of the correct addresses, a person for whom you do not have a key and who should not receive the information. As it stands, you will be prompted to select a key for the mistaken addressee, and will be likely to realize your error. Even if you somehow fail to correctly respond to this, the incorrect addressee will receive only an encrypted message that he or she is unable to decrypt. With your proposed modification, an unencrypted message will be sent to the unauthorized addressee, with no warning to you that you have just accidentally released sensitive information. I will also comment that I have a little difficulty imagining a common and plausible scenario in which I would ever want to send an encrypted message to one group of addressees, and also send the exact same message at the same time in plaintext to a different group. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOISE0DfOju+hMkkRCFqxAKDOcC3tq1qijBaCl4LellFekor0ZQCfRILj 7wGZiQCUKqeF85KcbUMQ+G0= =graJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Sat May 24 15:30:39 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:30:39 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Martin Maier wrote: > Hi all, > I think one of the most important things to increase the usability of > Enigmail with Thunderbird, would be to make the sending to a mixture > group of recipients (some recipients with and some one without gpg key) > more comfortable. Now the problem is, if you want to send an email to a > group of recipients and there is at least one recipients which doesn't > have any gpg key (doesn't support receiving encrypted mails), you can > only choose between sending encrypted or unencrypted but there is no > alternative between. And there should be no in-between. Sending a copy unencrypted negates *any* security benefit of encryption. > If you choose sending encrypted, only the recipients in key list can > read the message. If you choose sending unencrypted, all recipients > also the recipients in gpg key list, get the message unencrypted. So, if everyone can read the unencrypted version, why bother at all with sending an encrypted copy. If you're willing to send it unencrypted to a single recipient, there's no need to encrypt it to the others. > The improvement to wish would be an additional alternative e.g. named > "mixture recipients" which automatic send the email encrypted to the > recipients with gpg key and a copy of same email unencrypted to the > recipients without gpg support! This is a security mis-feature in the name of usability. What its real effect would be is to allow the accidental exposure of sensitive information that was thought to be confidential. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Moore III) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:47:56 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 John Clizbe wrote: >> The improvement to wish would be an additional alternative e.g. named >> "mixture recipients" which automatic send the email encrypted to the >> recipients with gpg key and a copy of same email unencrypted to the >> recipients without gpg support! > > This is a security mis-feature in the name of usability. What its real effect > would be is to allow the accidental exposure of sensitive information that was > thought to be confidential. The "feature" You desire is the scenario that makes Cryptanalyst's either laugh or vomit; depending upon whose side You're on. There is no greater/easier way to 'crack' an Encryption method than having an Encrypted copy side-by-side with the plaintext copy. I am not interested in the technical aspects of 'hashing' being unique to specific messages; to those of Us who were actively involved in "debriefing" the Walkers Your desire makes the blood curdle. If everyone cannot Decrypt a message then send it "in the clear" and be done with it! JOHN ;) Timestamp: Saturday 24 May 2008, 18:47 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIOJsZAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPewIH/RJVmMUKcAHKNpeqElCiScMi IOGUyeeZdzYsjMCg2Dpx+voK9KEw2GgX4Z4vJsyc2jKeyfh8qnq64QCfSem2Dg38 fUOSXPdFJfqdvAd2KJbhPGWNwoIiSL9vOD278P5m884t6Y3K9uj0rFn8IMEpZIZy 0I+/i/TlO6MIur0pIPWFmg2xvWJUuNf1GgJb/w2tB8N9sp5Kjcu0AHXX/p4tdfl1 QnvbH8kIR3zSvm4trMYPojI+PFkwhtDD/4FyZSRkrHUb7LbtfRy26/YQFPTbTCT3 X+O+qDuNFqrHls2wKnl7m2UEeJYJPZHVkUU/qXpPwO9wzLAgHY1Kfuv32JJjb9A= =Hl3u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From martin.maier at gnupg.info Sat May 24 15:57:03 2008 From: martin.maier at gnupg.info (Martin Maier) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:57:03 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> Message-ID: <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> Phil Stracchino schrieb: > I don't see this as either practical or desirable, honestly. It seems > to me it would greatly increase the likelihood of inadvertently exposing > sensitive information. > > Suppose, for example, you have a confidential message that you wish to > send to eight people, all of whom you have keys for. When addressing > the message, though, you inadvertently select one incorrect email > address that is very similar to one of the correct addresses, a person > for whom you do not have a key and who should not receive the information. > > As it stands, you will be prompted to select a key for the mistaken > addressee, and will be likely to realize your error. Even if you > somehow fail to correctly respond to this, the incorrect addressee will > receive only an encrypted message that he or she is unable to decrypt. > > With your proposed modification, an unencrypted message will be sent to > the unauthorized addressee, with no warning to you that you have just > accidentally released sensitive information. > > I will also comment that I have a little difficulty imagining a common > and plausible scenario in which I would ever want to send an encrypted > message to one group of addressees, and also send the exact same message > at the same time in plaintext to a different group. You could be right about that in all cases, exclusive sensitive information would be send. But for the use in everyday life, to send encrypted as much as possible also for nonsensitive messages, I think the other alternative (mixed) could be more useable. If you want to send sensitive information and play it safe (send only encrypted), you should may also turn off (/on) this function manually. For example you communicate mostly in a group of e.g. 20 people, eight people of them have already a gpg-key. If you now want to send out an email to this 20 recipients you are asked to choose keys for the normal recipients (you doesn't have a gpg-key for)! Now you can choose to send unencrypted for all or cancel and cleanup all eight recipients whose keys you have and send it unencrypted. Then you have to open a copy "as new", choose all eight recipients you have keys for and send it encrypted. I think this way is a little bit complex for normal user and beginners. It is very cumbersome, and if we want to convince beginners to use gpg we have to make it also simple! The normal user will use encryption only if it is not too complex. Either simply or rejection of gpg (in context of using in everyday life) -> with result of no participation. From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sat May 24 16:01:04 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <48389E30.80408@sixdemonbag.org> Martin Maier wrote: > If you choose sending encrypted, only the recipients in key list can > read the message. If you choose sending unencrypted, all recipients > also the recipients in gpg key list, get the message unencrypted. I, like most of the other recipients, do not see the point. You appear to have misunderstood the purpose of email cryptography. That said, if you want to pursue this option, check back in the mailing list archives for the way to file an RFE. From alaric at metrocast.net Sat May 24 16:02:51 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:02:51 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <48389E9B.5040008@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Martin Maier wrote: | The normal user will use encryption only if it is not too complex. | Either simply or rejection of gpg (in context of using in everyday life) | -> with result of no participation. Making it unsafe in order to make it available to users insufficiently sophisticated to understand what they're doing and why, or the difference between secure and insecure practices, seems like a poor trade to me. Cryptography is one of those fields in which a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIOJ6b0DfOju+hMkkRCNOdAJ9ZnaYX+4zAIahmZkGtYae2ZQJgfwCgtbor aa+0fxD7JSGuf2OiG/EY8KM= =IRdN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sat May 24 16:04:51 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:04:51 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <48389F13.8060907@sixdemonbag.org> Martin Maier wrote: > You could be right about that... He _is_ right about that. > But for the use in everyday life, to send encrypted as much as > possible also for nonsensitive messages, I think the other > alternative (mixed) could be more useable. Usability is great, but there comes a point where usability destroys the entire purpose of the system. You're advocating that Enigmail betray itself just for another couple of users. Sorry, no, not interested. This seems to be an extremely bad idea. > For example you communicate mostly in a group of e.g. 20 people, > eight people of them have already a gpg-key. If you now want to send > out an email to this 20 recipients you are asked to choose keys for > the normal recipients (you doesn't have a gpg-key for)! Now you can > choose to send unencrypted for all or cancel and cleanup all eight > recipients whose keys you have and send it unencrypted. Then you have > to open a copy "as new", choose all eight recipients you have keys > for and send it encrypted. I think this way is a little bit complex > for normal user and beginners. It is very cumbersome, and if we want > to convince beginners to use gpg we have to make it also simple! >From this use case, it appears clear that you do not understand the purpose of Enigmail or of email cryptography. From martin.maier at gnupg.info Sat May 24 18:21:54 2008 From: martin.maier at gnupg.info (Martin Maier) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 03:21:54 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> > John Clizbe wrote: > The "feature" You desire is the scenario that makes Cryptanalyst's > either laugh or vomit; depending upon whose side You're on. There is no > greater/easier way to 'crack' an Encryption method than having an > Encrypted copy side-by-side with the plaintext copy. Against a side-by-side copy a random block could inserted before encryption > John Clizbe wrote: > I am not interested in the technical aspects of 'hashing' being unique > to specific messages; to those of Us who were actively involved in > "debriefing" the Walkers Your desire makes the blood curdle. If > everyone cannot Decrypt a message then send it "in the clear" and be > done with it! If I understand you correctly, your opinion is that only experts should have the right for email cryptography? What do you think are the reasons for seldom use of email encryption? We should think more about improving this situation and open our mind and look what can done for the normal users to make it easier for them (in a safe way). > Robert J. Hansen wrote: > From this use case, it appears clear that you do not understand the > purpose of Enigmail or of email cryptography. With this use case I tried to show a potential requirement of practice. If a system doesn't support a safer solution for user requirements, then the user tries it himself - but this is mostly the worst case. So find a system controlled solution. From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Sat May 24 19:34:35 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:34:35 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Martin Maier wrote: >> John Clizbe wrote: >> The "feature" You desire is the scenario that makes Cryptanalyst's >> either laugh or vomit; depending upon whose side You're on. There is no >> greater/easier way to 'crack' an Encryption method than having an >> Encrypted copy side-by-side with the plaintext copy. > Against a side-by-side copy a random block could inserted before encryption I said no such thing. Those are John Moore's words. >> John Clizbe wrote: >> I am not interested in the technical aspects of 'hashing' being unique >> to specific messages; to those of Us who were actively involved in >> "debriefing" the Walkers Your desire makes the blood curdle. If >> everyone cannot Decrypt a message then send it "in the clear" and be >> done with it! Learn to quote! Again you attribute words to me that I did not write. Again you quote John Moore and attribute it to me. > If I understand you correctly, your opinion is that only experts should > have the right for email cryptography? Umm, that's not what anyone has said. It would appear that you are trying your best to attribute your own reading of the responses to others. Email encryption is a privacy tool to keep the contents of a message *private* between the sender and the recipient(s). Simultaneously sending the same message in the clear makes the effort to keep the contents private worthless, thus no need for an encrypted copy. What others have said is that if you are so convinced of this mis-features "value," then you must not fully understand the purpose of email encryption. > What do you think are the reasons for seldom use of email encryption? We > should think more about improving this situation and open our mind and > look what can done for the normal users to make it easier for them (in a > safe way). Google the paper "Why Johnny Can't Encrypt". It's still germaine. What you are proposing is no solution. It's the kind of mistake that gets people who depend on encryption for their lives killed. >> Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> From this use case, it appears clear that you do not understand the >> purpose of Enigmail or of email cryptography. > With this use case I tried to show a potential requirement of practice. > If a system doesn't support a safer solution for user requirements, then > the user tries it himself - but this is mostly the worst case. So find a > system controlled solution. This is *NO* use case in using encryption that would *EVER* require the simultaneous sending of both encrypted and plaintext copies of the same message. This use case is bogus. The system solution is simple and binary - encrypt to everyone or no one, there is no in-between. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080524/b97f6a63/attachment.bin From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sat May 24 19:59:57 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:59:57 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <4838D62D.7020606@sixdemonbag.org> John Clizbe wrote: > This is *NO* use case in using encryption that would *EVER* require > the simultaneous sending of both encrypted and plaintext copies of > the same message. I can actually think of one, although it's kind of contrived. If you're on a secure intranet, sending email to people both within and outside the intranet, it could potentially make sense to send plaintext to people on the intranet and ciphertext to the internet. This is a bogus example, though, for two reasons. First, the external mail gateway would take care of the encryption, you wouldn't -- and second, sending email directly to people on a secure intranet and an insecure internet seems kind of ... well ... stupid. So beyond some admittedly contrived examples, I'm in full agreement with John (actually, with the Johns) on this one. I have never seen a real-world use case that involves sending both plaintext and ciphertext versions of the same message. From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sat May 24 20:32:06 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:32:06 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> Message-ID: <4838DDB6.2050403@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Martin Maier wrote: >> John Clizbe wrote: >> The "feature" You desire is the scenario that makes Cryptanalyst's >> either laugh or vomit; depending upon whose side You're on. There is no >> greater/easier way to 'crack' an Encryption method than having an >> Encrypted copy side-by-side with the plaintext copy. > Against a side-by-side copy a random block could inserted before encryption Easily spotted when there is the Plaintext for comparison. >> John Clizbe wrote: >> I am not interested in the technical aspects of 'hashing' being unique >> to specific messages; to those of Us who were actively involved in >> "debriefing" the Walkers Your desire makes the blood curdle. If >> everyone cannot Decrypt a message then send it "in the clear" and be >> done with it! > If I understand you correctly, your opinion is that only experts should > have the right for email cryptography? Not at all; I am merely pointing out the reality of TLA attacks against Encrypted material. > > What do you think are the reasons for seldom use of email encryption? We > should think more about improving this situation and open our mind and > look what can done for the normal users to make it easier for them (in a > safe way). The reasons for non-use of Encrypted Email have more to do with folks not believing that they have any need, use or requirement for it. Either They have never considered their personal threat model or naively believe that "I have nothing to hide" and prefer to operate in blissful ignorance. FWIW: You ascribed the above quoted material to John Clizbe when in actuality I wrote the passages. That would be: John W. Moore III with salutation: JOHN;) >> Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> From this use case, it appears clear that you do not understand the >> purpose of Enigmail or of email cryptography. > With this use case I tried to show a potential requirement of practice. > If a system doesn't support a safer solution for user requirements, then > the user tries it himself - but this is mostly the worst case. So find a > system controlled solution. There is absolutely no reason to build into a Security System a security hole merely for the convenience of the casual User. Do You also recommend using Post-It Notes stuck to the monitor to facilitate remembering passwords at Work? :-\ Sending the identical Message in both encrypted & plaintext format is the rankest form of poor security practice! JOHN ;) Timestamp: Saturday 24 May 2008, 23:31 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJION20AAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPiGIH/2UuMYwHeNDqODbAxrcLPmuy 7+K2oIidPk/NUxBPNI9bRIiOcv6gAph0B3LUU6hIKx3blrrTNu1J6sBbW/D1yeqG BMf4/7dzLjBjRb9/7T3XGUep6rwC+1TuiaFt5N35y9lmGcvWCY0Umc8HHCYQVNJO gAAhPlp467v3v0wTIArp/jzzB4F3Jca9gpP9dXYglDsAvOyh8GApKNncicOYAeA8 UwEEn7odRrC3aAIOZDax79X8sjEdjLPKOioZfHlChBGx3DhAXQGlQt/ZzcBHk378 qQBxEaV3Uu8J0bl8WUdRAnHV9cStcYt/Q0f+C/X4egPjhuX7hi/DsZu6pGzm6LU= =/M7p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sat May 24 20:58:54 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:58:54 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838D62D.7020606@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838D62D.7020606@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <4838E3FE.5000608@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > I can actually think of one, although it's kind of contrived. If you're > on a secure intranet, sending email to people both within and outside > the intranet, it could potentially make sense to send plaintext to > people on the intranet and ciphertext to the internet. > > This is a bogus example, though, for two reasons. First, the external > mail gateway would take care of the encryption, you wouldn't -- and > second, sending email directly to people on a secure intranet and an > insecure internet seems kind of ... well ... stupid. Well, "contrived" is a stretch but just to ensure such a scenario *never* occurs; the Terminals are configured that there is one for the Intranet & one for the Internet. No single Terminal can access both. Real paranoia in this regard is having 4 or 5 Terminals within reach because each one is connected to a separate Secure Net. Status is often conferred by just which Net(s) You have access to. :-D JOHN ;) Timestamp: Saturday 24 May 2008, 23:58 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIOOP8AAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPCpQH/1rnoFX5LlnRk6lF1bcdRaaL GbmHVzvT7QgYF9IFnJEuHKwlcnRaHsO0qUqB1hvPu2phrj0/pvoTS9tOtohxih4D 3kp9Hfwu/igzjRerOvGKlLc1/gBtVR9hkwZNcgnVlWouyTlA+f+9LlP8QJRBMOYj hk1iMJytr/S4P6IDE9AskhP9AsV5ud+8N3UfyMkAhkqyvetzt1q73CuLcLp6Jbit Xz5/KibSys5UnFu8vhlVLR5i+hxKpgIiuQhWGaCscTZRAOQ0c19id7dYkn5nao2L 9wLMM5GdP1nNC/e8ZFAIn36TywjQpZdLrHRhAjx7d5KOAInNJsmf0Aix2biOgcI= =MAd5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sat May 24 22:46:20 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 01:46:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Clizbe escribi?: > This is *NO* use case in using encryption that would *EVER* require the > simultaneous sending of both encrypted and plaintext copies of the same message. > > This use case is bogus. The system solution is simple and binary - encrypt to > everyone or no one, there is no in-between. Just playing to be Devil's advocate, let's suppose the following: "I want to send a message to some friends I met playing an online game. One of them is from China, and since the message says something about China's government, the email server's bot filtering messages would delete it, before my friend can read it. But all the other receivers are not from China, so they can print it and post is on their doors... it is not a problem for them. And if the message's content is not bad enough to put my friend in trouble, so all I need is to make it pass the filter." In that scenario, I just need to send it encrypted to 1 person, not for all... By the way, I have heard all internet traffic to China is filtered, they can even block google and other things, so it _could_ happen. But also, I would just send it to my non-chinesse friends first, and then forward it encrypted to my chinesse friend... since it is not something I would be doing on daily basis, I don't need a new feature to work around that problem. And I agree with the idea that a security software should not allow users to think they are safe, when they are not... I would rather receive a warning saying: "this wont work", so I will have to thinks about it, and figure how to get around the problem, than to be allowed to make something that can be dangerous... Regards. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIOP0sAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAsPAIAKp2oUo3brnxrA83/MvEdzFh JKMTO5OuKWEgKbioUpyaRb0aJ878g3wsW0xS4my4RfN4ZexQwYPy95zzsCfUJAIH r+fPjMugtsUwwarUCHNim0urwNj7othJ+ccVQS41LJgNRkEF/UMCeW4t1gtaeuuD XSGj9bG3fuOSkTDBw1AEZLuwhGdWa4UY6Shdd4qS7cNNkW3gqVX8pVMWinwJt+yo jNmqdABrGod6KYSbwWjXmATvkvnBQiWvspUXDmNADtrbdK0byx9AMqgM0qNo15Ay 6xstcZ8vCbv6oOWtJ3yv6YRc4ebP0q4RBl8a/fGnMzifORygOIhCtifww7jAyTY= =AI+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Sat May 24 22:59:22 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:59:22 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Faramir wrote: > Just playing to be Devil's advocate, let's suppose the following: "I > want to send a message to some friends I met playing an online game. One > of them is from China, and since the message says something about > China's government, the email server's bot filtering messages would > delete it, before my friend can read it. But all the other receivers are > not from China, so they can print it and post is on their doors... it is > not a problem for them. And if the message's content is not bad enough > to put my friend in trouble, so all I need is to make it pass the filter." > In that scenario, I just need to send it encrypted to 1 person, not > for all... > > By the way, I have heard all internet traffic to China is filtered, > they can even block google and other things, so it _could_ happen. > > But also, I would just send it to my non-chinesse friends first, and > then forward it encrypted to my chinesse friend... since it is not > something I would be doing on daily basis, I don't need a new feature to > work around that problem. And I agree with the idea that a security > software should not allow users to think they are safe, when they are > not... I would rather receive a warning saying: "this wont work", so I > will have to thinks about it, and figure how to get around the problem, > than to be allowed to make something that can be dangerous... Would you also be willing to put your Chinese friend in danger? It's possible the gov't might want to know just what it was that was hidden in that encrypted email and subject your friend to some rubber-hose key extraction. You need to think about that also. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080525/7acfd948/attachment.bin From stefanxe at gmx.net Sun May 25 00:26:51 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:26:51 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode Message-ID: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> Hi! I am using Enigmail for several years but recently I ran into trouble. I have two secret keys and created a third one with Enigmail. Since that time I am not able to decrypt any email anymore. The output of Enigmail's console is following: enigmail> C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d gpg: Passphrase kann im Batchmodus nicht abgefragt werden [which means: can not query passphrase in batch mode] [Some info about the actual e-mail is following.] gpg: Entschl??sselung fehlgeschlagen: Geheimer Schl??ssel ist nicht vorhanden [which means: decryption failed: secret key does not exist] enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the described problem. Any ideas?! Stefan From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Sun May 25 01:01:33 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 03:01:33 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48391CDD.8040809@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Stefan X wrote: > Hi! > I am using Enigmail for several years but recently I ran into trouble. I > have two secret keys and created a third one with Enigmail. Since that > time I am not able to decrypt any email anymore. The output of > Enigmail's console is following: > > > enigmail> C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch > --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d > gpg: Passphrase kann im Batchmodus nicht abgefragt werden [which means: > can not query passphrase in batch mode] > > [Some info about the actual e-mail is following.] Hmmm, " --passphrase-fd 0 --no-use-agent" should have followed the -d In Enigmail's Preferences (Menu --> OpenPGP --> Preferences) Check the "Display expert settings" box if unchecked. (You may need to click OK and re-open the panel) On the Advanced tab, the 4th box, "Use gpg-agent for passphrases" should not be checked. Clear it if it is. gpg-agent use is currently not supported on Windows. That may change with an upcoming release of the Vindows build of GnuPG 2 (packaged in GPG4Win). -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080525/10cd5edd/attachment.bin From stefanxe at gmx.net Sun May 25 02:13:21 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:13:21 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <48391CDD.8040809@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <48391CDD.8040809@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48392DB1.6070809@gmx.net> > Hmmm, " --passphrase-fd 0 --no-use-agent" should have followed the -d > > In Enigmail's Preferences (Menu --> OpenPGP --> Preferences) Check the "Display > expert settings" box if unchecked. (You may need to click OK and re-open the panel) Do you mean this option should be CHECKED? Yes it is. > On the Advanced tab, the 4th box, "Use gpg-agent for passphrases" should not be > checked. Clear it if it is. Verified. "Use gpg-agent for passphrases" is DISABLED. > gpg-agent use is currently not supported on Windows. That may change with an > upcoming release of the Vindows build of GnuPG 2 (packaged in GPG4Win). Ok. I never used it yet. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 25 04:41:28 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 07:41:28 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 John Clizbe wrote: > Would you also be willing to put your Chinese friend in danger? > > It's possible the gov't might want to know just what it was that was hidden in > that encrypted email and subject your friend to some rubber-hose key extraction. > > You need to think about that also. There are many practical reasons that Security needs to be a 100% practice. It cannot be an On again, Off again thing. I discovered an Article that shows what can happen in the day-to-day world in which most of Us reside when discard 'Security Thinking'. http://tinyurl.com/3pbdpb Ever since COINTELPRO and Orwell's '1984' folks love to jest about 'Big Brother' watching. 'Domestic Spying' is a hot topic in the U.S. despite the fact that less than one tenth of 1% of all Citizens are actual targets of electronic snooping. We have the ability to freely communicate using Encryption without concerns but You send an Encrypted Email to a Friend in China and You guarantee that they & their Family will be on a Government Watch List at a minimum. JOHN ;) Timestamp: Sunday 25 May 2008, 07:41 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIOVBmAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPnBkH/RKV4vn4cqbhrQXUCY7wum/o z7cF9aT+BRV6J0QatlsqjvnOfS4yvfsxnWZXT58Llbtmys56bHPkIKw0KkpSJyMc kAArJWCo7YlKfeUF6EeF+PtoUk+99vFR5H8Xmylw0RRxmd4gcqw+PWMiyQzIlMCn NTYFK3HIzj7MUxjVv5qiWl8Gl/1/XUG+j/iZXLU1ArntdH668bnYqSLFwCdrpUyO E6zC04ZmOG3y5BwCLdAzn0KYVqmMsAMni9Wr+Rs5i2B11QyAcrW7csQCtOnaya2Q 4X7bNuY2icmq3E66MQOwfFdId0ug7I4cm96xsI94HWggS5EfGZj6O6+pkp/0t50= =E3ma -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlisten at hammernoch.net Sun May 25 04:47:57 2008 From: mlisten at hammernoch.net (=?UTF-8?B?THVkd2lnIEjDvGdlbHNjaMOkZmVy?=) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:47:57 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483951ED.90700@hammernoch.net> Stefan X wrote on 25.05.2008 9:26 Uhr: > All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no > passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the > described problem. Did you try to decrypt anything on the command line? Something like gpg -d x.txt where x.txt is an encrypted file. Does gpg ask for a passphrase? Are there error messages? Does this work with encrypted content encrypted to all your keys? HTH Ludwig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 542 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080525/924b49e6/attachment.bin From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sun May 25 11:00:48 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:00:48 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> John W. Moore III wrote: > Ever since COINTELPRO and Orwell's '1984' folks love to jest about 'Big > Brother' watching. 'Domestic Spying' is a hot topic in the U.S. despite > the fact that less than one tenth of 1% of all Citizens are actual > targets of electronic snooping. For what it's worth, I give even odds that I'm either under surveillance or have been at some point in the past. Communicate via encrypted email with people living in Syria and the NSA is probably going to pay attention. Odds are they're also sharp enough to realize "oh, right, he's talking with a human-rights organization", of course. That said, encrypted email traffic stands out like a sore thumb in traffic analysis. If you're communicating with interesting people, it's worth considering the possibility that you've been noticed. From stefanxe at gmx.net Sun May 25 11:30:14 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:30:14 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483951ED.90700@hammernoch.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483951ED.90700@hammernoch.net> Message-ID: <4839B036.8070509@gmx.net> I can decrypt e-mails manually with "gpg -d email.txt" for two of my three keys. It worked fine without any problem. For my third key I don't have any email yet to decrypt. Therefore I encrypted and decrypted files with "gpg -e test.txt" and "gpg -d test.txt.gpg" manually. This works fine too. Yes, GPG asks for passphrases every time. No error messages. Any idea? Ludwig H?gelsch?fer schrieb: > Stefan X wrote on 25.05.2008 9:26 Uhr: > >> All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no >> passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the >> described problem. > > Did you try to decrypt anything on the command line? Something like > > gpg -d x.txt > > where x.txt is an encrypted file. > > Does gpg ask for a passphrase? Are there error messages? Does this work > with encrypted content encrypted to all your keys? > > HTH > > Ludwig > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From ayush.cena at gmail.com Sun May 25 11:40:58 2008 From: ayush.cena at gmail.com (Ayush Sharma) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:10:58 +0530 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > John W. Moore III wrote: >> Ever since COINTELPRO and Orwell's '1984' folks love to jest about 'Big >> Brother' watching. 'Domestic Spying' is a hot topic in the U.S. despite >> the fact that less than one tenth of 1% of all Citizens are actual >> targets of electronic snooping. > > For what it's worth, I give even odds that I'm either under surveillance > or have been at some point in the past. Communicate via encrypted email > with people living in Syria and the NSA is probably going to pay > attention. Odds are they're also sharp enough to realize "oh, right, > he's talking with a human-rights organization", of course. > > That said, encrypted email traffic stands out like a sore thumb in > traffic analysis. If you're communicating with interesting people, it's > worth considering the possibility that you've been noticed. > Hello All, I would just like to say that the reason I am saying this is only as I have got to know this information from trusted sources, and hope it won't be misconstrued so as to imply that I, in any way imply anything derogatory against Muslims. When I was living in India, I had loads of Muslim pals (not that it's something really commendable or out of the ordinary), and am lucky enough to enjoy that even now. Working in a Computer and Information Security Department, I have come to know that the Government employs strict chat, mail and phone surveillance on all Asians, especially Muslims. The standard technique followed is that as soon as somebody uses an "objectionable" (what is objectionable...for that your guess is as good as mine), the surveillance starts recording the conversation and informs the concerned authority. Though I am all for National Security, this seemed a bit too out of the ordinary. And my German friends shouldn't find themselves too away from the hot seat either, as the Government has plans of using the same scheme almost uniformly across folks of all religion. However, this would remain a dream as the cost and human rights activists won't let that happen. Anyways, what I am trying to say is that lately, it's not correct of somebody says that "I will never be snooped on by the Government, as I am a clean man...you never know :) " Warm Regards and wish everybody a great week in advance, - -Ayush Sharma -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIObK66Z5yLYKmY0oRArKVAJ9avjbbwoYC0rdyfJAF9oNBKvDdggCggzqm 6IMiRJND6+BE9HyZWM/FKWk= =7lde -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sun May 25 14:29:11 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:29:11 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> Ayush Sharma wrote: > Working in a Computer and Information > Security Department, I have come to know that the Government employs > strict chat, mail and phone surveillance on all Asians, especially > Muslims. Sorry -- I don't buy it. Some governments may be monitoring traffic into and out of Asia pretty closely (especially Asia Minor), but that's much different from saying the government monitors all Asians. First, I'm unaware of there being any X-Genotype email header they can inspect to find out whether the person involved is Asian or of Asian ancestry; and second, given just how much traffic comes out of Asia on a daily basis, I very much doubt that anyone or any agency can keep track of it all. I'm not dismissing your concerns, mind you. But I value the field of information security too much to let rumor and hearsay rule the day. As Carl Sagan has said, claims require evidence -- and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. From ayush.cena at gmail.com Sun May 25 14:53:40 2008 From: ayush.cena at gmail.com (Ayush Sharma) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:23:40 +0530 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Ayush Sharma wrote: >> Working in a Computer and Information >> Security Department, I have come to know that the Government employs >> strict chat, mail and phone surveillance on all Asians, especially >> Muslims. > > Sorry -- I don't buy it. whoops...sorry forgot to include the word "suspected"...i meant the Government employs strict surveillance on all chats of *suspected* Asians...and that means that even if they have just done some petty crimes/are suspected of some plausible terrorist activity (don't know about USA, but here in Germany the country can't turn somebody out unless they have *concrete* proof that he/she is doing something fishy)...they are still under the radar...and all the Germans that are petty criminals too..maybe included in that net. Sorry for the typo...will try and double check the message again. :) > Some governments may be monitoring traffic into and out of Asia pretty > closely (especially Asia Minor), but that's much different from saying > the government monitors all Asians. First, I'm unaware of there being > any X-Genotype email header they can inspect to find out whether the > person involved is Asian or of Asian ancestry; and second, given just > how much traffic comes out of Asia on a daily basis, I very much doubt > that anyone or any agency can keep track of it all. I never said they are monitoring *all* the information coming out of, or going into Asia. I simply meant to say that they monitor all activities of "suspected" people. Unfortunately or fortunately, "suspected" Asians are monitored with the closest detail. > I'm not dismissing your concerns, mind you. But I value the field of > information security too much to let rumor and hearsay rule the day. Its *not* hearsay, our team is working on it. I personally am part of the Voice recognition software construction. Am not trying to blow my horn, but just giving an idea of what happens. And no, I am not breaching any NDA, as it is common knowledge that German Government allows surveillance of "suspected" people (by the law). Moreover, i think that's somewhat similar to the Patriot Act down in USA, though I am not aware of its technicalities and am really sorry if I am quoting something separate here. To reiterate what most of us already know, the first and foremost task of Information Security Department, at least of the one that is owned by the country's Government, is to maintain the Security of its countrymen, and then probably, if it has time, to do some additional research on things that may not affect the Country's Security in the short or long term basis. Your further comments and queries, are like always, welcome :) > As Carl Sagan has said, claims require evidence -- and extraordinary > claims require extraordinary evidence. > Warm Regards, - -Ayush Sharma -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIOd/k6Z5yLYKmY0oRAqe1AKCtHb9mrVbBZb5kHZA7lBBL1V1KDACfSZ5j OOtho31DfAtfED6INcozKR8= =C0nU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sun May 25 15:09:25 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:09:25 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4839E395.7050101@sixdemonbag.org> Ayush Sharma wrote: > I never said they are monitoring *all* the information coming out of, or > going into Asia. Quoting you: > I have come to know that the Government employs strict ... > surveillance on all Asians. That's what you said -- _all_ Asians, all four billion from the Urals to Japan. However, you say you misspoke, so I'm perfectly willing to write it off as a misstatement. I'm only pointing it out so that hopefully future miscommunications can be avoided. :) > Its *not* hearsay, our team is working on it. Your team is working on a piece of the puzzle. Your team is most probably not allowed to see the entire puzzle, and I doubt your ability to piece together the entire thing. I would also recommend you stop talking about this. Rule one of operational security: if you don't need to talk about what you're doing, don't talk about what you're doing. Regardless of whether you're operating within the confines of German law and your NDA, you may find your security officer stopping by your office to have a chat with you. From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Sun May 25 15:28:20 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:28:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4839E804.80506@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ayush Sharma wrote: > Its *not* hearsay, our team is working on it. I personally am part of > the Voice recognition software construction. Am not trying to blow my > horn, but just giving an idea of what happens. And no, I am not > breaching any NDA WHOA! Non-Disclosure Agreement notwithstanding; disclosing Who You are & What You're working on may very well be, if not Classified, only a thin line away from it. Even if You are involved in only a very small piece of the puzzle, You have just disclosed that compromising You might be a very productive Project for /someone/. NDA's oftentimes contain clauses against acknowledging whatever activities You're performing for the 'Enterprise' as a whole. I remember a Sign that was on _every_ wall where I worked: "Loose Lips Sink Ships!" JOHN :-\ Timestamp: Sunday 25 May 2008, 18:28 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIOegCAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPw9cH/2R8Dzdx2VPv6OhShO57agEx vmnpRDb+TuWSIu7Gt+tI6FS09UrUDSF6qvdUSHTOx/rJEz+WnWXOg+jutQVA25fv dzUonEY3xq7uG+LhussZTvm8NakOYxEY2toggC3XBT/Uk4UrJTlo5AMIr0CXZOgU qD71dsZpcLi/deRzZSIbTthE1i0o5t9vkEb8KGBMbNfghrvMNlP+pMXSTqi6prlE qjl2jn5Y1eLrSy6P1POYfYqthD+Q0PFPqoXpsgv5NusgHxDqxLrY2C+QuTn6nILv SZqVwsyloyKdV3mJspqU1TQOGhT+MOstbwZqs3POHD5KsV8vKuwA6Q0a1wUZiw4= =Dp3w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ayush.cena at gmail.com Sun May 25 15:29:25 2008 From: ayush.cena at gmail.com (Ayush Sharma) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:59:25 +0530 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839E395.7050101@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> <4839E395.7050101@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <4839E845.7090504@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Ayush Sharma wrote: >> I never said they are monitoring *all* the information coming out of, or >> going into Asia. > > Quoting you: > >> I have come to know that the Government employs strict ... >> surveillance on all Asians. > > That's what you said -- _all_ Asians, all four billion from the Urals to > Japan. However, you say you misspoke, so I'm perfectly willing to write > it off as a misstatement. I'm only pointing it out so that hopefully > future miscommunications can be avoided. :) > >> Its *not* hearsay, our team is working on it. > > Your team is working on a piece of the puzzle. Your team is most > probably not allowed to see the entire puzzle, and I doubt your ability > to piece together the entire thing. All things aside, we may be able to *piece* the entire thing or not, and if you read my comments you would have known my opinions on it (which were that i *was not* in the affirmative with this), we have to do this, and this is a fact. I wasn't saying it is right, only quoting what is happening. > I would also recommend you stop talking about this. Rule one of > operational security: if you don't need to talk about what you're doing, > don't talk about what you're doing. Regardless of whether you're > operating within the confines of German law and your NDA, you may find > your security officer stopping by your office to have a chat with you. Well, considering the fact that our team (including moi!) has already faced many interviews about this on a lot of German Channels, and many European ones as well, I don't think that would be problem. :) What I don't need to talk about is, how exactly we do it, and who are the suspected people, and what are the protocols we follow. What "we" won't have a problem is, telling what we are doing, which is monitoring activities of people that are lying in the "suspected" group. I guess many people may not know this aspect of the German law, so I will try and include that here. By Law, Germany (don't know about other countries, in India it is not even required by the Law that you need to have some corroboratory evidence about someone. If any politician/policeman has any doubt, they can knock themselves out taping and recording everything they want) is allowed to monitor any/all activities of any person as soon as he/she commits a suspected act. An act is termed suspected as soon as it lies in any one of the 144 acts listed in the Official Charter. By Law, the Government needs to explain to the public why they do something, and thats where we come in, being a part of the team thats implementing one of the laws. If you ask my personal opinion, I guess its not rocket Science to figure that out from my initial mail. Its common knowledge (at least here in this area) that I am part of a team that is working on a speech recognition software that is used by the Government. Don't worry, i am not making any new enemies by writing this E-mail. But thanks for your concern though :) Appreciate the reply(s), Warm Regards and I hope I am not filling you mail boxes with useless jabber, - -Ayush Sharma -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIOehF6Z5yLYKmY0oRAvRyAJ4tKnnW8wAbDRSPURPhBxkGF9A4BACfV2IP gidnjOETBYZowBYxjfbesyo= =YXsu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ayush.cena at gmail.com Sun May 25 15:37:23 2008 From: ayush.cena at gmail.com (Ayush Sharma) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 04:07:23 +0530 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839E804.80506@bellsouth.net> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <4839A950.3070901@sixdemonbag.org> <4839B2BA.2080305@gmail.com> <4839DA27.6070706@sixdemonbag.org> <4839DFE4.9040301@gmail.com> <4839E804.80506@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <4839EA23.3040405@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John W. Moore III wrote: > Ayush Sharma wrote: > >> Its *not* hearsay, our team is working on it. I personally am part of >> the Voice recognition software construction. Am not trying to blow my >> horn, but just giving an idea of what happens. And no, I am not >> breaching any NDA > > WHOA! Non-Disclosure Agreement notwithstanding; disclosing Who You are > & What You're working on may very well be, if not Classified, only a > thin line away from it. > > Even if You are involved in only a very small piece of the puzzle, You > have just disclosed that compromising You might be a very productive > Project for /someone/. NDA's oftentimes contain clauses against > acknowledging whatever activities You're performing for the 'Enterprise' > as a whole. > > I remember a Sign that was on _every_ wall where I worked: > > "Loose Lips Sink Ships!" > > JOHN :-\ John my brother...!! You should have just waited 2 more minutes to send the mail. Its probably my problem that I didn't explain everything at the first go, but I *am* "allowed" to disclose what we are working on it, but not *how* it is done. I guess once once everybody here in Germany knew that, I shouldn't have had a reason to worry disclosing my "identity". Right? :P Warm Regards, - -Ayush -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFIOeoj6Z5yLYKmY0oRAuIoAKCmIsUqTFLgR249Hfi3gwWybDk6YACeIU+n mBb/IYUsPP4me+qyvDz9Zi0= =5r5a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 25 17:18:20 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:18:20 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] A bit OT (comes from) Idea for improvement... In-Reply-To: <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <483A01CC.3040903@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John W. Moore III escribi?: > There are many practical reasons that Security needs to be a 100% > practice. It cannot be an On again, Off again thing. I discovered an > Article that shows what can happen in the day-to-day world in which most > of Us reside when discard 'Security Thinking'. http://tinyurl.com/3pbdpb I followed a link from that site, talking about leaked info from MediaDefender company. And I saw: "MediaDefender accomplishes this task by using its array of 2,000 servers and a 9GBps dedicated connection to propagate fake files and _launch denial of service attacks against distributors_." So, a legitimate company launch DoS attacks against "pirates"... but, aren't DoS attacks another way of "cyber-crime"? What come next, people breaking the legs of a drug dealer, just because drug dealers are criminals? I mean, there is a reason why we have laws, police, and judges... and not Charles Bronson or The Boondock Saints... Also, the article says "Approximately 41 percent of large companies (with over 20,000 employees) have employees who read and monitor outgoing e-mail." Well, if some work mates start laughing behind you, after you sent an email to your girlfriend (talking about leather handcuffs, and other things like that), you know what have happened... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIOgD9AAoJEMV4f6PvczxAsUMH/RamIX13hjL/Wio3Uo5XeFFO 5I5nqcGQCFKplmHDz+5DCFrTy4FCklvDKoddcC+qw0R+VFIXoZf02SM3TGzxwnUB FuB+ddFXS7g1hJKS3w3ssvzfldQ4ALvQqN/lvcwHS2SeKI2BdALE3Lv9vAqQzbCb j6CQuDGXO2xblqd+ek/aT0y97SbKCGwpQ8S3oHhunqHyGVAfNHui5nRZeOoyCkY5 le6z4HvJaX89BdMTECLD/dqzEwUf9CCG2bzvxotXDtNtsHSrosvFxvddCsEYG1uF rGuylyx29te+k/XKxOIhKMVCytrhHgewbE8aK+olM1o81djHMoDCsPRzVcRpRjs= =PVyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Sun May 25 17:55:13 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:55:13 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] A bit OT (comes from) Idea for improvement... In-Reply-To: <483A01CC.3040903@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <483A01CC.3040903@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483A0A71.4090805@sixdemonbag.org> Faramir wrote: > So, a legitimate company launch DoS attacks against "pirates"... but, > aren't DoS attacks another way of "cyber-crime"? What come next, people > breaking the legs of a drug dealer, just because drug dealers are > criminals? I mean, there is a reason why we have laws, police, and > judges... and not Charles Bronson or The Boondock Saints... In point of fact, this _is_ law. Seriously. A surprisingly good definition for government is "whoever is strong enough to claim and defend a right to initiate force." If you're living in Chicago housing projects, your local gang might be more of a government than the Chicago Housing Authority (see Sudhir Venkatesh's excellent book _Gang Leader for a Day_). Classical governments have not demonstrated any real ability to police the internet. On top of that, the governed -- the netizens -- generally are quite hostile to attempts by classical governments to police the internet. Americans might applaud the FBI's involvement in fighting child pornography, but people in Canada might wonder why the American government thinks it's the internet's traffic cop. Vigilantism is the unlawful appropriation of government's powers of law enforcement. If the history of the internet tells us there is _no_ government with the power to enforce the laws of a particular nation upon the internet, can actions such as this really be called vigilantism? That's not to say what they're doing is moral, ethical, or productive. Those three questions are difficult and no clear-cut answers exist. However, arguing "this is vigilantism" is a dog that just won't hunt. It's not vigilantism. > Also, the article says "Approximately 41 percent of large companies > (with over 20,000 employees) have employees who read and monitor > outgoing e-mail." Well, if some work mates start laughing behind you, > after you sent an email to your girlfriend (talking about leather > handcuffs, and other things like that), you know what have happened... Don't laugh. This has actually happened to people I know. My best friend was getting married. His fianc?e was several states away. They'd trade emails back and forth at work, nothing that interfered with their workday. They were planning a honeymoon, and you can imagine how certain newlywed activities were influencing their choice of vacation spot. She went down to her system administrator's office to ask about a problem with the printer, and heard down the hallway one of her emails being read aloud, and much laughter. She stormed in, and discovered the sysadmin was reading email to a pretty young receptionist, apparently in order to show her how much geek power he had in the department. So yes, what you're talking about has happened. I know these people very well, and have been honored to know them for over a decade. It happened to them. From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 25 19:25:45 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:25:45 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] A bit OT (comes from) Idea for improvement... In-Reply-To: <483A0A71.4090805@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <483A01CC.3040903@gmail.com> <483A0A71.4090805@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <483A1FA9.5000804@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen escribi?: > Faramir wrote: >> So, a legitimate company launch DoS attacks against "pirates"... but, >> aren't DoS attacks another way of "cyber-crime"? What come next, people ... > In point of fact, this _is_ law. Seriously. I think if the target server is in Chile, the owner can denounce it (in special, if it is a shared server... like a hosting service. The pirate would be doing an illegal activity, but the other hosted sites would not have to suffer for that). Of course, if the attacker is not in Chile, it would be very hard to punish him... > A surprisingly good definition for government is "whoever is strong > enough to claim and defend a right to initiate force." If you're living > in Chicago housing projects, your local gang might be more of a > government than the Chicago Housing Authority (see Sudhir Venkatesh's That would be really scary, if I were living there... Anyway, good guys should play following the rules. And while that definition of government seems to be a good definition, it is not the definition of a "legitimate government" (and the efforts should point toward making legitimate governments, where there is the need of a government). > Classical governments have not demonstrated any real ability to police > the internet. On top of that, the governed -- the netizens -- generally > are quite hostile to attempts by classical governments to police the > internet. Americans might applaud the FBI's involvement in fighting > child pornography, but people in Canada might wonder why the American > government thinks it's the internet's traffic cop. Good point... I would not complain if USA government "eavesdrop" emails inside USA. But I think my ISP is linked from Chile to USA, so, if I want to send an email to Spain, it will go through some USA server... and that makes me feel a bit concerned about those things. Just a bit, since I am not involved in terrorism, child pornography or anything like that. I think American government have the right to be internet's traffic cop... as long as they just watch activities that start, or finish, in USA territory... > Vigilantism is the unlawful appropriation of government's powers of law > enforcement. If the history of the internet tells us there is _no_ > government with the power to enforce the laws of a particular nation > upon the internet, can actions such as this really be called vigilantism? In Chile, it would be. There is a "ciber-crime brigade" in local police, so if a chilean server is doing piracy, the right thing to do is to denounce them... > That's not to say what they're doing is moral, ethical, or productive. > Those three questions are difficult and no clear-cut answers exist. > However, arguing "this is vigilantism" is a dog that just won't hunt. Yes, trying to find answers for these questions would require our own discussion list, and a lot of time... >> Also, the article says "Approximately 41 percent of large companies >> (with over 20,000 employees) have employees who read and monitor >> outgoing e-mail." Well, if some work mates start laughing behind you, >> after you sent an email to your girlfriend (talking about leather >> handcuffs, and other things like that), you know what have happened... > > Don't laugh. This has actually happened to people I know. Well, I wrote it like a funny thing that could happen, but my intention was to show there are harmless messages that should not be seen by third parties... in special, if these people are people that knows you... it would not be a problem is somebody at China reads those emails, verify it is not leaking information from the company, and forget about it... but the system's administrator at your friend's company surely wont forget it... And now I have a good answer to the question "why would I need cryptography?" Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIOh+pAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA3FIH/ilaYolZYU7P6kOcgA2wTNUw a1T5bXf2vL5Sb6h0jUbbeVIJm36aavXiv8RaQWGCYFVo7WIxPxIfZBNvp6r5DfGL kxm1lv92ShjruJw8j4uOFeq+AzTStCXoiiu8g8oXN1s+oP65REvXvFR25fyx7AM0 1xUZ4WTMH7PkhoBWJl5rVCfcyjDuMdNDmn0wSK2+1q1Xgvza3hZOC4RDK79xOQt3 78PSVWVpR7uDK5yAUlpO1v+F+ZsktyQefM82E3Ivo9fK0sGN1DxEzkIDyFdmnj4Z B1AdSC5tkSo8CDbB/qjo/huD3uSHj0wPvLMqHaljnq3wV6QLEc4ZUNSkcKxlCBA= =Pkcy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Sun May 25 19:50:05 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <483A255D.3010208@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Clizbe escribi?: > Faramir wrote: >> Just playing to be Devil's advocate, let's suppose the following: "I >> want to send a message to some friends I met playing an online game. One >> of them is from China, and since the message says something about >> China's government, the email server's bot filtering messages would >> delete it, before my friend can read it. But all the other receivers are ... > Would you also be willing to put your Chinese friend in danger? Certainly, if I had a friend in China, I would not... in that imaginary scenario, I was thinking about avoiding the message to be deleted, and the content would be a joke about chinese government (something that wouldn't cause problems). But I had problems writing that in english, so I didn't clarify enough about that. > It's possible the gov't might want to know just what it was that was hidden in > that encrypted email and subject your friend to some rubber-hose key extraction. Yes, it is true, I was thinking about that they would not bother in checking that, or at least, the imaginary chinese friend could just show them it was plain text (no hidden messages in pictures) with a bad joke (and he could not know about it before reading it). > You need to think about that also. Right... wherever we suspect there may be repression, we must be careful... thanks God, here we don't have those kind of problems... (unless you really are involved in child pornography... then there can be a lot of problems). Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIOiVdAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA2vMH/iD/OZPrAaeRgaTp6BHndMN4 X45Jz+c0tNgT4yAY6yVas1LKezyCGC6Fvlso/riAxUuFlFKn35XGNs9XMX/OsuUc qbGNYDYoX+ekIBuIm7EGNmxmDt34z1XiPs9Mpu0dsouVolpZcZdU7RhiBWJht7Bv TrCboQwhvyXXygxyA+I1yDj40Brk6rHihLhWtoor4rq825FOofZl41rSViyrE+78 1qDpxR/KQ20wp/9BoCMJMwVZDgjyV+pFG/0KOV3F9MngSCd/6wVipE8omMX8EUNk 1Gvteti2xENg56a5OarSYuwI2lohHIqaPfCjUe4wrElmgzuNlaCzt5/69x60QQY= =77lU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jhony.armando at djmtz.sld.cu Sun May 25 19:57:50 2008 From: jhony.armando at djmtz.sld.cu (jhony armando flores G_3) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:57:50 -0000 Subject: [Enigmail] urgente In-Reply-To: <483A255D.3010208@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <483A255D.3010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: hola por favor me puedes hacer un gran favor de crearme un correo electronico en cualquiera de las paginas de cuba para poder enviar mesajes a mi familia ya q no me puedo comunicarme hace tiempo .....por favor no se si se puede ..el correo q tengo funciona aveces y no es internacional ..por favor .....gracias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080526/d0c8ed71/attachment.html From stefanxe at gmx.net Sun May 25 21:30:15 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 06:30:15 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483A3CD7.7040405@gmx.net> The same error appears when I try to sign and encrypt any email. Stefan X schrieb: > Hi! > I am using Enigmail for several years but recently I ran into trouble. I > have two secret keys and created a third one with Enigmail. Since that > time I am not able to decrypt any email anymore. The output of > Enigmail's console is following: > > > enigmail> C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch > --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d > gpg: Passphrase kann im Batchmodus nicht abgefragt werden [which means: > can not query passphrase in batch mode] > > [Some info about the actual e-mail is following.] > > gpg: Entschl??sselung fehlgeschlagen: Geheimer Schl??ssel ist nicht > vorhanden [which means: decryption failed: secret key does not exist] > enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > > All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no > passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the > described problem. > > Any ideas?! > > Stefan > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From trinitronx at gmail.com Sun May 25 22:50:37 2008 From: trinitronx at gmail.com (Jim Cuzella) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:50:37 -0600 Subject: [Enigmail] A bit OT (comes from) Idea for improvement... In-Reply-To: <483A1FA9.5000804@gmail.com> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838FD2C.9000608@gmail.com> <4839003A.6080905@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48395068.3000803@bellsouth.net> <483A01CC.3040903@gmail.com> <483A0A71.4090805@sixdemonbag.org> <483A1FA9.5000804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483A4FAD.4050702@gmail.com> Faramir wrote: > > > A surprisingly good definition for government is "whoever is strong > > enough to claim and defend a right to initiate force." If you're living > > in Chicago housing projects, your local gang might be more of a > > government than the Chicago Housing Authority (see Sudhir Venkatesh's > > That would be really scary, if I were living there... Anyway, good > guys should play following the rules. And while that definition of > government seems to be a good definition, it is not the definition of a > "legitimate government" (and the efforts should point toward making > legitimate governments, where there is the need of a government). > Indeed, where government is not needed, it shouldn't exist. The problem with most governments nowadays, whether legitimate or not, is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. We have seen in our time and within history how governments with too much power can all too easily become corrupted. This has sadly shown itself to be the case time and time again. Here's to hoping for change in the future ;) > > Classical governments have not demonstrated any real ability to police > > the internet. On top of that, the governed -- the netizens -- generally > > are quite hostile to attempts by classical governments to police the > > internet. Americans might applaud the FBI's involvement in fighting > > child pornography, but people in Canada might wonder why the American > > government thinks it's the internet's traffic cop. > > Good point... I would not complain if USA government "eavesdrop" > emails inside USA. But I think my ISP is linked from Chile to USA, so, > if I want to send an email to Spain, it will go through some USA > server... and that makes me feel a bit concerned about those things. > Just a bit, since I am not involved in terrorism, child pornography or > anything like that. I think American government have the right to be > internet's traffic cop... as long as they just watch activities that > start, or finish, in USA territory... > > This is a tricky subject, who has authority over the internet? More importantly: does anyone really have the RIGHT to this authority? I believe that the internet has far exceeded the jurisdiction of any one government, and I hope it will continue expanding its virtual space as a free zone for all. Much like the vastness of space, the internet does not belong to anyone, but exists for everyone. Cheers, - Jim C. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 195 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080525/b7165880/attachment.bin From devlinhartline at gmail.com Sun May 25 12:22:54 2008 From: devlinhartline at gmail.com (Devlin Hartline) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:22:54 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] this is only a test Message-ID: <4839BC8E.6020201@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hope it works! please let me know if can read it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg5vI0ACgkQYo4qIAcsXeZAOQCfWnve8s45B2WvL+1u/HOrgl2J JV4AoII1MdO4VLfyyTNuEzOAINlpAnsG =Haqa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Sun May 25 23:50:58 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 02:50:58 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] this is only a test In-Reply-To: <4839BC8E.6020201@gmail.com> References: <4839BC8E.6020201@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483A5DD2.6030500@mac.com> Devlin Hartline wrote the following on 5/25/08 3:22 PM: > hope it works! please let me know if can read it. It works: OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from Devlin Hartline Key ID: 0x072C5DE6 / Signed on: 5/25/08 3:22 PM Key fingerprint: 8E9E B18A 00B1 E2F5 B1A1 C237 628E 2A20 072C 5DE6 Welcome. Charly From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 26 01:12:30 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:12:30 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan X wrote: > Hi! > I am using Enigmail for several years but recently I ran into trouble. I > have two secret keys and created a third one with Enigmail. Since that > time I am not able to decrypt any email anymore. The output of > Enigmail's console is following: > > > enigmail> C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch > --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d > gpg: Passphrase kann im Batchmodus nicht abgefragt werden [which means: > can not query passphrase in batch mode] > > [Some info about the actual e-mail is following.] > > gpg: Entschl??sselung fehlgeschlagen: Geheimer Schl??ssel ist nicht > vorhanden [which means: decryption failed: secret key does not exist] > enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > > All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no > passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the > described problem. > > Any ideas?! I think the problem is with your preferences. The gpg call clearly misses the parameter --passphrase-fd 0, which happens under the following conditions: 1) "never ask for any passphrase" is enabled 2) "use gpg-agent for passphrase handling" is enabled Since you claim that "use gpg-agent for passphrase handling" is disabled, I can only imagine the 1st option (found in the Basic tab of the Enigmail preferences) is enabled. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDpw7XcOpHodsOiwAQIdEggAj7Y6WRN2Tvdn9SJb/5YdLzaHGIYFj+JM zw4GZC8Dj+Bk8/MnRi8YCvZ5k8uVi7UXe/AFc6k4mriwmy+aDoHJt2UV9or+f3x/ Xl1t3VjxfVB6rHpFsJVL2ha8uUUEWJU+uosF8KTb6wVUglVCj2RRl7CH8L94dRNo la8JzOsiVVACG+/wfNfoLHfW6d3lJ4Ys4nYHWS6CRN76cPEWcJ4ZQeOOKBHTxmte zcBDmKQCSvoflpi/zcPpxY/DoZGDsXXg4pBgo+qT13UoefZtBnN3AQIWrqY49pvu c9kUDnGdebpJnzh1C4DPvYxcu5oBAWB4qRFp8xGlKQBnGfEPeBZ8Vw== =ngWu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 26 01:16:23 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:16:23 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <4838D62D.7020606@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <4838970F.4090400@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <48389B1C.2070003@bellsouth.net> <4838BF32.2050103@gnupg.info> <4838D03B.80204@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> <4838D62D.7020606@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <483A71D7.2050609@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > John Clizbe wrote: >> This is *NO* use case in using encryption that would *EVER* require >> the simultaneous sending of both encrypted and plaintext copies of >> the same message. > > I can actually think of one, although it's kind of contrived. If you're > on a secure intranet, sending email to people both within and outside > the intranet, it could potentially make sense to send plaintext to > people on the intranet and ciphertext to the internet. > > This is a bogus example, though, for two reasons. First, the external > mail gateway would take care of the encryption, you wouldn't -- and > second, sending email directly to people on a secure intranet and an > insecure internet seems kind of ... well ... stupid. > > So beyond some admittedly contrived examples, I'm in full agreement with > John (actually, with the Johns) on this one. I have never seen a > real-world use case that involves sending both plaintext and ciphertext > versions of the same message. To come to an end on this topic: being the developer of Enigmail, I would never spend my time on implementing such a feature since I don't think that there is any valid use-case behind it. And if someone would submit a patch to add this feature, I'm not sure if I would accept it. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDpx1XcOpHodsOiwAQIAYQf/dXdXf8JUsfyL4vt/sSeIetUsjCtOkR9n QkuSnJ8Mz70HeJ7//ueHlTij476DM8bA2niW+EtUkyNv4nB4zdW1HTr7aX/FXwms R2yTKIP/cqUM5n1FFnfjHzKzkAqGoO7KjpE7ULzwvJ618PGxGdTA/ZFd2ENhNwNw g62mnsHNeHN1imA7AY8cdVR45qCbkOIMjoj5pX77xe6F0CUrvg/3KFTMA9dCxh8E OwpArjKGJ92HOkg+HI/eyt20RAA5qBiQIkkQPT38fFIzmMWJzYE1iKTzZTSCh4iJ BfO+mvQ6tc6G//2O+sW8UM37HkYU03d5YfNLT691queirm3SBeUOgw== =QpHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stefanxe at gmx.net Mon May 26 04:02:40 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:02:40 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: > Stefan X wrote: >> Hi! >> I am using Enigmail for several years but recently I ran into trouble. I >> have two secret keys and created a third one with Enigmail. Since that >> time I am not able to decrypt any email anymore. The output of >> Enigmail's console is following: > > >> enigmail> C:\Program Files\GNU\GnuPG\gpg.exe --charset utf8 --batch >> --no-tty --status-fd 2 -d >> gpg: Passphrase kann im Batchmodus nicht abgefragt werden [which means: >> can not query passphrase in batch mode] > >> [Some info about the actual e-mail is following.] > >> gpg: Entschl??sselung fehlgeschlagen: Geheimer Schl??ssel ist nicht >> vorhanden [which means: decryption failed: secret key does not exist] >> enigmail.js: Enigmail.decryptMessageEnd: Error in command execution > > >> All of my keys are now passphrase protected. The third key had no >> passphrase protection before but I changed this in hope to fix the >> described problem. > >> Any ideas?! > > I think the problem is with your preferences. The gpg call clearly > misses the parameter --passphrase-fd 0, which happens under the > following conditions: > > 1) "never ask for any passphrase" is enabled > 2) "use gpg-agent for passphrase handling" is enabled > > Since you claim that "use gpg-agent for passphrase handling" is > disabled, I can only imagine the 1st option (found in the Basic tab of > the Enigmail preferences) is enabled. > > -Patrick _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 26 04:28:20 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 13:28:20 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan X wrote: > That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I > am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key > without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is > automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a > passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail > should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase > protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT > automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if > Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or > does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. Yes, that's what Enigmail does. Unfortunately Enigmail doesn't know anything about other keys and if they are password protected or not (and it's not quite easy to find this out at all). In the future (i.e. for gpg2), this task will be handled by gpg-agent. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDqe1HcOpHodsOiwAQLacQf9ET390a2k8wn+WyToECARqBjisXGn+DHi wr1U5dmof/VcSa6siqFH2rX7aDAJgrLSdwzCvgdQ63eji4dutnIvM1STTEkJb4aO EWjo6bnnQhs2oCud2ZhxzxrGxEIWZsCq7U+aYe9fTmYlGAiSROwdoHnE9F+xT+/g PW6pjLu1hauWB2D15EdgAzW4tcwX9MPbR2Rt55nfjgAgouMajh/0x4oRXXOxgQpC x0Te/M84J4D+g69KKVDA2cSgKXjMt1AIpxeDUy97vbItYRndR1dP/65plKPGjobc dv0QkUcjk8zfjkkQhZs5mQGt9ne/n31dwVGdxIiZ92ydc29Fv5ZLhA== =O69E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at paulmccormack.com Mon May 26 04:31:43 2008 From: paul at paulmccormack.com (Paul McCormack) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:31:43 +1000 Subject: [Enigmail] Double Password Request on Signing Message-ID: <483A9F9F.20807@paulmccormack.com> I am using Enigmail on Ubuntu. Whenever I send a signed message, I am asked for my private key password twice. The password is also not being stored in memory (for the default 5 mins) between messages. Has anyone else had this problem? Mutt works fine. Regards, Paul -- ============================ paul at paulmccormack.com http://www.paulmccormack.com ============================ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080526/bd466821/attachment.bin From sattva at pgpru.com Mon May 26 08:12:46 2008 From: sattva at pgpru.com (Vlad "SATtva" Miller) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:12:46 +0700 Subject: [Enigmail] Double Password Request on Signing In-Reply-To: <483A9F9F.20807@paulmccormack.com> References: <483A9F9F.20807@paulmccormack.com> Message-ID: <483AD36E.5040203@pgpru.com> Paul McCormack (26.05.2008 18:31): > I am using Enigmail on Ubuntu. Whenever I send a signed message, I am > asked for my private key password twice. The password is also not being > stored in memory (for the default 5 mins) between messages. > > Has anyone else had this problem? Mutt works fine. I see exactly the same problem. Some details: - GPG 2.0.9 with gpg-agent (no passphrase caching) - Problem appears only with PGP/MIME messages - Problem appears with *signed* messages only, not with signed+encrypted -- SATtva | security & privacy consulting www.vladmiller.info | www.pgpru.com From stefanxe at gmx.net Mon May 26 08:38:14 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:38:14 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> Than it would be better if A) Enigmail does not enable this option automatically at all or B) at least Enigmail should inform the user about the changed configuration by a popup window. Still this may cause problems for unskilled users who don't understand the message. What do you think? Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better support by Enigmail? Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: > Stefan X wrote: >> That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I >> am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key >> without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is >> automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a >> passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail >> should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase >> protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT >> automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if >> Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or >> does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. > > > Yes, that's what Enigmail does. Unfortunately Enigmail doesn't know > anything about other keys and if they are password protected or not (and > it's not quite easy to find this out at all). In the future (i.e. for > gpg2), this task will be handled by gpg-agent. > > > -Patrick _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Mon May 26 08:53:27 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:53:27 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483ADCF7.4030801@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan X wrote: [...] > Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better > support by Enigmail? There is no official release of GnuPG 2 on Windows available; therefore the current version of Enigmail doesn't provide support for it. I'm currently experimenting with the beta versions of gpg4win v2, the next update for Enigmail will support it properly. - -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDrc9ncOpHodsOiwAQIzeQf+KW11vfnPn5MUGXDPJ2d+2GV9RA2q65+A XRhJRCzmF9RxyTNl3dXJx+lljNDQ6D8g5W3CVEBQNGb5aFyRRlLSnX16KapPwPnQ gSeJ60eql83oRDy/tORjMbXUWwtiKVW2nFWoLSq7foLg44f9qmJjF3YyssPARe0V LZ6riof8azYRktN037rRKwO9U6WDQ9rIJpnAkI/l2MOcvzoP0LZwle5xMxO7sYz1 J5kOZQ/3X1TzZtAzlAmnv1EwMSPpRtzIB4PDSz6jxeN7mJev2OW0hQsREoZ9JbHN HsSZCxHnDQ2GOknhaWFZspEsYix0AakugkI5uXiDyzuhXncwxcdEbQ== =qmy2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rasmith1959 at yahoo.com Mon May 26 13:17:44 2008 From: rasmith1959 at yahoo.com (Roy Smith) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:17:44 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Idea for improvement usability of sending to mixed groups of recipients (with gpg and without gpg support) In-Reply-To: <48389F13.8060907@sixdemonbag.org> References: <48387D4B.1060109@gnupg.info> <48388484.3040906@metrocast.net> <48389D3F.2090805@gnupg.info> <48389F13.8060907@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <483B1AE8.7090205@yahoo.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen wrote: | Martin Maier wrote: |> You could be right about that... | | He _is_ right about that. | |> But for the use in everyday life, to send encrypted as much as |> possible also for nonsensitive messages, I think the other |> alternative (mixed) could be more useable. | | Usability is great, but there comes a point where usability destroys the | entire purpose of the system. You're advocating that Enigmail betray | itself just for another couple of users. Sorry, no, not interested. | | This seems to be an extremely bad idea. I whole heartedly agree with you Robert. If an individual doesn't have a public key for one individual then he should either encourage him to use PGP, or not encrypt the message when sending to multiple recipients. - -- Roy Smith I use Firefox because I want to use software that complies with Web standards. See . -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBSDsa6G7cp55ZD5UOAQIo7RAAlNe0e1L0b5M15oPo6WSNb/bU1gZodUmm jUU/v24oTJV/IsloNLdoE3F647RU5MOOHdIvR5bIAujyqmzsrug6g2MUqTr5TDU2 G4yZ9Z0o2ecmaqSlEStYRABLgx0F9hNAxOPkebAuS/03E7K72u1Mlq9zTXaqeju8 tboKU7HOzOHJqt2wuiu1HdsIzGZrXD8fKTmz0iP+9oOPcaUXaOnkpVGKAe+b5m70 4tkZ9SBwWmdqD6szcF5+qUQsMup7Rlm494tkJQkEk3bQYMHmLzCeaEysqq8lI9RE L1KaGPc87voh0p9MAMGnRJWtT10mi6nraLBjOk9J4POxm3gL+lvj8Z3pHMWkHe9C aGVCweMW3LhC+GRDHsWObzq7W2VFPcwJ8QOjlE02asCq0VjtkcOn3ct257wNx9Ir ir/4RTsNdeebgLp98aHR0c7IS7FRw5gNmCC0W3FgCGtsO7v7K46HmmGsBt4O5u6p MDPUvU3Y2Soawdk44VdpN2sGLTppTE7bsFg3NvXOib5kwIQCf3f4d3eootJJxTXj PEwtE2UUlMvHr9ydyMuCGk1lKbj6sDNWEatgqwYN8rrOgEByiCq84tgIBVsmIODn 3Od+Xo/xV81hPkYfHmm2FnBYtWDqA4gXK7bRxpbi1G8mDh19ULEs/vSIO1f0dRrr n2npKZqwQEs= =8wYH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stefanxe at gmx.net Mon May 26 13:42:34 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:42:34 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483ADCF7.4030801@mozilla-enigmail.org> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> <483ADCF7.4030801@mozilla-enigmail.org> Message-ID: <483B20BA.2030209@gmx.net> Should I file a bug entry for this problem? Recap: I proposed the two following solutions in my previous mail: A) Enigmail does not enable this option automatically at all or B) at least Enigmail should inform the user about the changed configuration by a popup window. Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: > Stefan X wrote: > [...] >> Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better >> support by Enigmail? > > > There is no official release of GnuPG 2 on Windows available; therefore > the current version of Enigmail doesn't provide support for it. I'm > currently experimenting with the beta versions of gpg4win v2, the next > update for Enigmail will support it properly. > > -Patrick _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail From stefanxe at gmx.net Mon May 26 13:45:47 2008 From: stefanxe at gmx.net (Stefan X) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:45:47 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483B217B.6030505@gmx.net> Also I experienced that the popup windows which asks for a passphrase does not name the particular key. Therefore I don't know which passphrase I should enter (I use several keys with different passphrases) and have to try and retry several times. Should I file a bug entry for this problem or will it be fixed anyway? Stefan X schrieb: > Than it would be better if > A) Enigmail does not enable this option automatically at all or > B) at least Enigmail should inform the user about the changed > configuration by a popup window. Still this may cause problems for > unskilled users who don't understand the message. > > What do you think? > > Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better > support by Enigmail? > > Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: >> Stefan X wrote: >>> That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I >>> am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key >>> without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is >>> automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a >>> passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail >>> should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase >>> protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT >>> automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if >>> Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or >>> does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. >> >> Yes, that's what Enigmail does. Unfortunately Enigmail doesn't know >> anything about other keys and if they are password protected or not (and >> it's not quite easy to find this out at all). In the future (i.e. for >> gpg2), this task will be handled by gpg-agent. >> >> >> -Patrick > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > From faramir.cl at gmail.com Mon May 26 07:29:03 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:29:03 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483AC92F.6080902@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan X escribi?: > That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I > am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key > without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is > automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a > passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail > should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase > protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT > automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if > Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or > does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. By the way, I don't understand why it is allowed to create a key without passphrase... I mean, it would be safer to put a post it in the computer screen with the passphrase... at least, if the computer is hacked, the attacker would not see it... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIOskvAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAEQgH/0WsIfo8hMF6fnU+/al99y3/ mtrHVUWwySyu33VQfyMnKtm1vTQCm30phzxLRPq5OoCv0VrJ3DWkt/B06JhvZRAu pkzBwMF44j5YxvLjuZw1ko4PBwSxuHwr4ztKbCqi5cbxlL5HvejW2V+QJ1BJxpQO MJgtZMMxJcOW6S5WO22XamLnfFn6TmvaY01ybc7gCDoAaC8ur2j0qnjnfgNoojiS fFu00vr4rU3SZQRIzk7WFjgFdEUDEMzYs2g5R+KVxrOI5COHa9X12vJDkqOzepPX 6ILPlFo4tDpYh6uvJ1Pf+20HCWFjKr9PGWjWrM/IBY30dDrm5YZ3LwOc7dbxmOE= =onnD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjh at sixdemonbag.org Mon May 26 14:29:53 2008 From: rjh at sixdemonbag.org (Robert J. Hansen) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:29:53 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483AC92F.6080902@gmail.com> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483AC92F.6080902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483B2BD1.2060102@sixdemonbag.org> Faramir wrote: > By the way, I don't understand why it is allowed to create a key > without passphrase... It's helpful for batch processing. There are other alternatives, but they're all pretty much equivalent to not putting a passphrase on the key. From faramir.cl at gmail.com Tue May 27 01:19:56 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 04:19:56 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483B217B.6030505@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> <483B217B.6030505@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483BC42C.1000402@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stefan X escribi?: > Also I experienced that the popup windows which asks for a passphrase > does not name the particular key. Therefore I don't know which > passphrase I should enter (I use several keys with different > passphrases) and have to try and retry several times. > > Should I file a bug entry for this problem or will it be fixed anyway? Do you mean you have several keys using the same email address? I have never tried to do that... I use several keys, each one with it's own email address, and Enigmail select the key associated with the email address I am using to write the message... so I can know which passphrase I need, based in the email account I am using... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIO8QsAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA/hAIAKuYiEOJ5tycgQSRIx7vW8wi sw0cOH62Wt/uywQshj/4HDcgtWuZ3WDabA9SEK+Xz+LvbEoppSNsl3yhR8vRimZZ Jvcw1psUozJCTYuACAEU9oFVDFymh+qTvsqynvBRC63bIaGuHFVxrDo5UHyULHw+ j965Q8lSWI93SuInHjck8uJ3MOOele8tz3f2u9ajUbW8k1A/Q1jdZaQtP2TsCdxN nxWmffd+88dgyYlbPvauC/qOSrCueQ3oK0JhzpuGMHfdtPmTalcW1KTyOssJ5Qw7 yxFgx2MGfnp4e1WG7qf1PsuDOYjqpkzGghtqaERO8BmgYlyNCNPYHKw0z6mdm34= =uM6Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From faramir.cl at gmail.com Tue May 27 01:43:45 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 04:43:45 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483B2BD1.2060102@sixdemonbag.org> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483AC92F.6080902@gmail.com> <483B2BD1.2060102@sixdemonbag.org> Message-ID: <483BC9C1.7020300@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Robert J. Hansen escribi?: > Faramir wrote: >> By the way, I don't understand why it is allowed to create a key >> without passphrase... > > It's helpful for batch processing. There are other alternatives, but > they're all pretty much equivalent to not putting a passphrase on the key. It looks like a good reason for that, but I still "feel" it is a bit scary... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIO8nBAAoJEMV4f6PvczxApcYH/ionVvcczXbOy7dX1jurxX+Z lyB10zmyXp/F5VO1klvqpPljPy4bcswZdinIZG8DQyxzy+zv89qD5AGW7mFlRpQ0 G6J8vKuKMsKlrKHoLP/Z8CotK4Rd5cxRvvJQE8bA6nC7SQpk+6cqEnqmVECk+D/d 6UfOZu8jgcVORv6ES4eYFhZWyn33Gu4uaenPG0YPnuCuq1KyCWMBa0+fxQsEhd+s 43R9WTXbcavVWpbDyn8aq70YcfubzjpupKxl0WjazQ75FAWZDN1Sv//BTGlLIKD6 RmirL8G36llm7ZMw+1A2jQ0ZKqwrWhcgL14DXb2LCQ+kSZ/DulBxK9R5Xlk7E6Y= =O80/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Tue May 27 02:50:05 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:50:05 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483B20BA.2030209@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> <483ADCF7.4030801@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483B20BA.2030209@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483BD94D.7070504@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yes, feel free to do that. - -Patrick Stefan X wrote: > Should I file a bug entry for this problem? > > Recap: I proposed the two following solutions in my previous mail: > > A) Enigmail does not enable this option automatically at all or > B) at least Enigmail should inform the user about the changed > configuration by a popup window. > > > > Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: >> Stefan X wrote: >> [...] >>> Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better >>> support by Enigmail? >> >> There is no official release of GnuPG 2 on Windows available; therefore >> the current version of Enigmail doesn't provide support for it. I'm >> currently experimenting with the beta versions of gpg4win v2, the next >> update for Enigmail will support it properly. >> >> -Patrick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDvZS3cOpHodsOiwAQJDYgf/fDn5GA7cWyIVLwAJKkuIC2HpRlHigUis rFMJqkHVVFvP8nIGegEjsH+GnZjqqC7LaGecQg7WeU9KF2uMf14PSdQ+87Ua0biF ILAI+t1VUR2a08U37f4svU8eFgiXbahMykZNtqykRIR/K+cTi3G4+3v+WykBpSIU GP9qhYrTBOxxQUrcdPRBzSE6CRpynHm8vOhsZBdpHREEugRpHRk5JBxRhARUvnBG 1kGlcnhnxI2QK5tRyHKy77vqaBOPXHo1mhOcpmI/NX0t4Hgvhv0ZL/IXEVff3494 bKeezFAt9q3RVbaCEWbydzyhTJp1cGgwaVuZ97dXjeXo/Q9CDzN0WQ== =xEyE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org Tue May 27 02:55:44 2008 From: patrick at mozilla-enigmail.org (Patrick Brunschwig) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:55:44 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] can not query passphrase in batch mode In-Reply-To: <483B217B.6030505@gmx.net> References: <483914BB.2010009@gmx.net> <483A70EE.8080200@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483A98D0.1040604@gmx.net> <483A9ED4.6070907@mozilla-enigmail.org> <483AD966.8040304@gmx.net> <483B217B.6030505@gmx.net> Message-ID: <483BDAA0.2080903@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There are already several bugs entered for this problem. In any case, I won't fix it. gpg2 will probably be released quite soon for Windows, such that those who want to use several passphrases can switch. And in the longer term think that gpg2 will eventually completely replace gpg1, and latest then you are required to use the gpg-agent for passphrase handling -- and the dialog opened by gpg-agent will prompt you for the correct key and handle multiple passphrases. - -Patrick Stefan X wrote: > Also I experienced that the popup windows which asks for a passphrase > does not name the particular key. Therefore I don't know which > passphrase I should enter (I use several keys with different > passphrases) and have to try and retry several times. > > Should I file a bug entry for this problem or will it be fixed anyway? > > Stefan X schrieb: >> Than it would be better if >> A) Enigmail does not enable this option automatically at all or >> B) at least Enigmail should inform the user about the changed >> configuration by a popup window. Still this may cause problems for >> unskilled users who don't understand the message. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Do you recommend to use GnuPG 2 already or should I wait for a better >> support by Enigmail? >> >> Patrick Brunschwig schrieb: >>> Stefan X wrote: >>>> That's it! The option "never ask for any passphrase" was enabled. But I >>>> am pretty sure I never enabled this option. So I created another key >>>> without a passphrase. I found out that in such case the option is >>>> automatically enabled by Enigmail no matter if another key with a >>>> passphrase exist or not. For my opinion this is a bug. Instead Enigmail >>>> should check at time of key creation if another key with passphrase >>>> protection exist. If this is the case this option should NOT >>>> automatically be enabled. Otherwise it could. It would even be better if >>>> Enigmail checks at runtime if a passphrase is required and does query or >>>> does not query appropriately. Than such option would be obsolete. >>> Yes, that's what Enigmail does. Unfortunately Enigmail doesn't know >>> anything about other keys and if they are password protected or not (and >>> it's not quite easy to find this out at all). In the future (i.e. for >>> gpg2), this task will be handled by gpg-agent. >>> >>> >>> -Patrick >> _______________________________________________ >> Enigmail mailing list >> Enigmail at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Enigmail mailing list >> Enigmail at mozdev.org >> https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail >> > _______________________________________________ > Enigmail mailing list > Enigmail at mozdev.org > https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEVAwUBSDvan3cOpHodsOiwAQL6VQgAuKPxVGds7hOTIk7v7T52AXOkoXFSTdCo 9l8opRF7mB2gK2hqC4/fKPGDaaIE1UIdeNr/bbIIlusGNfAJuG9lZTxOqlLvQtem nnlpMFSz9UhIS7+zuqCsiPjsBXmvOJOJ+mqaahlW4NmNQuYUYRYoIVqHHOepdBVI 78n2jq7N90QMGk0j3grGURQ1wvvTYzn0TKmM61KTHrdeuOtdKVUkzSdRrl6rPwO0 pYEOm/IAtXL3Y9jWMVL+zVFIqS8LE/do8NpSvj5OOgILqubo4kwf6qOMFadbj5rc MtogDAJiyMct2o0HQ4vbH/LjqQNiY7dk1R2ql1lpUWZfyFPyvUrKCA== =zV3M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Steeda69 at gmail.com Tue May 27 20:02:14 2008 From: Steeda69 at gmail.com (STEEDA) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:02:14 -0700 Subject: [Enigmail] New to GnuPG Message-ID: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello folks, I'm just learning how to use and incorporate E-mail encryption. This site was recommended to me by a friend and so I'm hoping to learn and understand how to use encryption (PGP basics) and incorporate it into my e-mails. I'm pretty "computer literate" but no where close to those of you reading this e-mail. My first experience with encryption E-mail was when I opened a Hush-Mail account a few years back. Back then I knew NOTHING about this topic and therefore I signed up for one of their "free" accounts. The only problem was "I didn't know how to use it properly" and "no one else who had a free account seemed to be any more knowledgeable).... Kinda like "the blind leading the blind" so to speak! Needless to say, most of the emails I sent AND received were NOT even encrypted! There is A LOT I still don't fully understand and some other details that are just confusing to me. I could ask you all a gamut of questions concerning this topic BUT the main reason for this E-mail to you is for me to SUCCESSFULLY write my FIRST signed piece of mail. I look forward to learning more about encryption from you all and would like to "thank you" in advance for all your help and support regarding this subject! THANK YOU! STEEDA~ ====================================================================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg8yzYACgkQfWVZwCcuRy9XXACdEyP6RP7g/w3J0j6g9F/7dD/m 8vcAmgMCO5kiBy9P8dKoTdPBqM1hgAUV =C0yR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 28 00:07:11 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 03:07:11 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] New to GnuPG In-Reply-To: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> References: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483D049F.2010305@mac.com> STEEDA wrote the following on 5/27/08 11:02 PM: > Hello folks, I'm just learning how to use and incorporate E-mail > encryption. This site was recommended to me by a friend and so I'm > hoping to learn and understand how to use encryption (PGP basics) and > incorporate it into my e-mails. I'm pretty "computer literate" but no > where close to those of you reading this e-mail. > > My first experience with encryption E-mail was when I opened a Hush-Mail > account a few years back. Back then I knew NOTHING about this topic and > therefore I signed up for one of their "free" accounts. The only problem > was "I didn't know how to use it properly" and "no one else who had a > free account seemed to be any more knowledgeable).... Kinda like "the > blind leading the blind" so to speak! Needless to say, most of the > emails I sent AND received were NOT even encrypted! > > There is A LOT I still don't fully understand and some other details > that are just confusing to me. I could ask you all a gamut of questions > concerning this topic BUT the main reason for this E-mail to you is for > me to SUCCESSFULLY write my FIRST signed piece of mail. > > I look forward to learning more about encryption from you all and would > like to "thank you" in advance for all your help and support regarding > this subject! > > THANK YOU! > > STEEDA~ Welcome Steeda. OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from STEEDA Key ID: 0x272E472F / Signed on: 5/27/08 11:02 PM Key fingerprint: 6355 50B4 A2D0 42F5 D663 D7F8 7D65 59C0 272E 472F Therefore your first signed message, format in-line, is OK, and your signature verifies. By separate mail I shall send you my public key, so that you can, if you wish, import it into your public key ring, and set 'Per recipient rules' to use that key when you want to send me an encrypted message. That key will also enable you to check my OpenPGP signature. Take care, Charly MacOS 10.5.2 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a From faramir.cl at gmail.com Wed May 28 02:03:11 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 05:03:11 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] New to GnuPG In-Reply-To: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> References: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483D1FCF.8010308@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 STEEDA escribi?: > There is A LOT I still don't fully understand and some other details > that are just confusing to me. I could ask you all a gamut of questions > concerning this topic BUT the main reason for this E-mail to you is for > me to SUCCESSFULLY write my FIRST signed piece of mail. > > I look forward to learning more about encryption from you all and would > like to "thank you" in advance for all your help and support regarding > this subject! > > THANK YOU! > > STEEDA~ > ====================================================================================================================== Congratulations, signed email successful! ;) This list is for enigmail application (but I see people are not carrying sticks to pushing messages a bit off-topic... anyway, I try to don't go off-topic). There are 2 other lists I was recommended to read, one is GNUpg list (gnupg-users at gnupg.org), where you can ask about that program (the "motor" used by enigmail), and the other is PGP-Basics (PGP-Basics at yahoogroups.com), which focus in PGP style of cryptography, and more general things about cryptography (at least, that was I was told... or what I understood from what I was told). To subscribe to GNUpg list, go to http://lists.gnupg.org/ For pgp-basics... I don't remember it well, but start searching at yahoo groups... It shouldn't be hard to find, since you know the name of what you are looking for. You will notice a lot of people are subscribed to the 3 lists (and maybe to some others I don't know), so it is just a matter of keeping subjects in the right place. By the way, I started about 1 month ago, so I am not an expert on this subject... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIPR/OAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAA4UH/A3MfE/u0lSpIL5AQ5rCOMr4 X53UyXjCTWEJkUSLAHJGkT7QjxHN/8v0UAy9jLtz5+Ipq0FCr0+vPkksPIzIxTHF h9R5pI9tIKPQFwmRGGPI1294F3IWtqcpq0bO0dQfKG7EKjmuMQnADyVkVkqjhs98 IHoRauPKRMpWo4Gc41wMrDH8kq+9BeKyf2PxqQ2xcb5Cq5+qI/63PQbnCbqvIEmZ hM8Sd/ezbxEA0u87wfGbwCWiNFUjpbuNxRlUybQ+S+Ln9LTPue3jRBkb7VPE+JFr 0tNBhyRG9lGpHkxGfKo6F0wJBFy+bJCqUwOO+IZZUgoBB7J+V7OtaleDe9++Xzs= =Qk7W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Wed May 28 03:53:38 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 06:53:38 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] New to GnuPG In-Reply-To: <483D1FCF.8010308@gmail.com> References: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> <483D1FCF.8010308@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483D39B2.50600@mac.com> Faramir wrote the following on 5/28/08 5:03 AM: [...] > > Congratulations, signed email successful! ;) > > This list is for enigmail application (but I see people are not > carrying sticks to pushing messages a bit off-topic... anyway, I try to > don't go off-topic). [...] According to Steeda's message raw source, Steeda is running: X-*Enigmail*-Version: 0.95.6 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) off-topic? Best regards, Charly From faramir.cl at gmail.com Wed May 28 11:32:08 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:08 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] New to GnuPG In-Reply-To: <483D39B2.50600@mac.com> References: <483CCB36.4040205@gmail.com> <483D1FCF.8010308@gmail.com> <483D39B2.50600@mac.com> Message-ID: <483DA528.1060700@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charly Avital escribi?: > Faramir wrote the following on 5/28/08 5:03 AM: > [...] > >> Congratulations, signed email successful! ;) >> >> This list is for enigmail application (but I see people are not >> carrying sticks to pushing messages a bit off-topic... anyway, I try to >> don't go off-topic). > > [...] > > According to Steeda's message raw source, Steeda is running: > X-*Enigmail*-Version: 0.95.6 > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) > > > off-topic? Oh no, I did it again... Of course his message is in-topic, as far as I know. But he also said he doesn't know much about cryptography, and since I started 1 or 2 months ago, and I remember the lot of questions I had, I supposed some of his doubts would be in-topic, and some others would fit better in one of the other 2 lists. I mean, it was a preventive advice... I was going to add I am not moderator, but I thought saying I am a new member of the list, with very little experience in the subject would be clear enough... Next time I will say: "I figure you have some questions related with GNUpg, and others about general PGP cryptography, so probably you would like to join these 2 other lists, in order to be able to make each question in the right place" or something like that. In my past experience with other lists, there are 2 things that a new member should avoid (in order to don't receive a warning message): going off-topic, and looking like he/she is self appointing him/herself as 'moderator/supreme-inquisitor/whatever authority title'... maybe I became a bit paranoid about that... sorry. Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIPaUoAAoJEMV4f6PvczxAxLQH/30sSCRhCAqE/w4fCsCL77FY rj6q/2+HPK9dWm9YEH/GNCUAc9ghndYRoTNNb27SfN8gMwIyIGgFhhZ4b6btXqcY 5A/dVyKeL8+NbUif3QYL7lj62Ap8A9GFPiFvk/D+IOEwzcngeKae+of4tts+qhq6 WDPfPaBfBkHCD5LvJRtGaSHQR9bYM0nriMhEnkwX8Os3MHfnfUgPIShziS+mouo4 grNDVrmxfcLnBDghwEDL/Z3weB8G2nF62rFA1xACO4u0zk5yjAxE8jzFR4FirdSG QS0U28DJfauNALqY0vR6clnfMJiVR2zdoL9vh5wR8AQQ2gKA1bF/F4biWKVKbww= =Jrg8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kor.kiley at uvm.edu Wed May 28 18:12:21 2008 From: kor.kiley at uvm.edu (Kor Kiley) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:12:21 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail Test Message-ID: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to contribute to the boredom but I'm another poor soul wishing to test my Enigmail setup. I have signed this message and am looking for a volunteer to receive an encrypted message from me. Thanks, Kor Kiley -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg+AvUACgkQNuzuE1SulUsqoQCZAaAgmLGR8//r2jv0bM1DJBdJ rPwAnimWLw0i+QeeLBfSGhvRm/3w/is7 =dU8d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Wed May 28 18:22:46 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail Test In-Reply-To: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> References: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <483E0566.6080207@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Kor Kiley wrote: > Sorry to contribute to the boredom but I'm another poor soul wishing to > test my Enigmail setup. I have signed this message and am looking for a > volunteer to receive an encrypted message from me. Signing verified just fine. Keys are identified below. If you have Enigmail/GnuPG configured to automagically fetch keys for signature verification, you'll already have both. Use either. Please send to address below, not the list. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080528/ff348e70/attachment.bin From kor.kiley at uvm.edu Wed May 28 18:24:57 2008 From: kor.kiley at uvm.edu (Kor Kiley) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:24:57 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail Test In-Reply-To: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> References: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <483E05E9.904@uvm.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can send a signed or encrypted message OK from my computer at work, but sending from my home computer doesn't seem to work. The enigmail setup at work is new but I set up enigmail on my home computer a year or more ago. I had generated a key pair at the time but I no longer know what it is. I downloaded the new public key (generated at work) from the key server and then imported my private key. This caused the key to show as revoked--on my home computer. Obviously I'm doing something wrong! Kor Kiley wrote: > Sorry to contribute to the boredom but I'm another poor soul wishing to > test my Enigmail setup. I have signed this message and am looking for a > volunteer to receive an encrypted message from me. > > Thanks, > > Kor Kiley _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg+BekACgkQNuzuE1SulUs6MACePIBHZJJAQwpjPkZfOHaIgCTq 9/wAn2FyJXzgX+GWCeHt5Lw8MOrTAqR0 =sblh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Wed May 28 19:55:14 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail Test In-Reply-To: <483E05E9.904@uvm.edu> References: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> <483E05E9.904@uvm.edu> Message-ID: <483E1B12.4040007@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Kor Kiley wrote: > I can send a signed or encrypted message OK from my computer at work, > but sending from my home computer doesn't seem to work. The enigmail > setup at work is new but I set up enigmail on my home computer a year or > more ago. I had generated a key pair at the time but I no longer know > what it is. Maybe this one?: Kor Kiley 1024 bit DSA key 47DA4835, created: 2007-09-19 > I downloaded the new public key (generated at work) from the key server and > then imported my private key. This caused the key to show as revoked--on my > home computer. Obviously I'm doing something wrong! Imported your "Private key"? Looks more like you imported the key revocation certificate. How did you get your private key from work to your home machine? WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T SEND THIS REVOKED KEY TO A KEYSERVER UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S UP - Things can probably be straightened out unless you publish the revoked key Drop me another pvt reply and let me know a good IM address to reach you and we can probably straighten this out pretty easily. AIM, GoogleTalk, then Yahoo work best for me. -- John P. 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URL: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080528/c8726b52/attachment.html From dchart at dds.nl Thu May 29 03:53:01 2008 From: dchart at dds.nl (Dannis 't Hart) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:53:01 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Signed test mail (Hello World) Message-ID: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am Dannis 't Hart, from Bunnik, The Netherlands. I am sending this message (with Thunderbird + Enigmail) to test if I can correctly sign my message. If this works, I guess the next steps will be to send someone a message which is encrypted with his/her public key that I should be able to find on some key-server, and ask that someone sends me some test-message that is encrypted with my public key... So, if someone would volunteer to help me check this, I'd be grateful. Thank you, Dannis. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg+iw0ACgkQT8pYv7gnb+lkAgCfTN7uapWLxzykabj/DVu8HlcI ux0An3et2s/eGMPDTXIc5DV9nlO7fFID =g5kV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From alaric at metrocast.net Thu May 29 04:11:25 2008 From: alaric at metrocast.net (Phil Stracchino) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Signed test mail (Hello World) In-Reply-To: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> References: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> Message-ID: <483E8F5D.3020201@metrocast.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Dannis 't Hart wrote: | Hi, | | I am Dannis 't Hart, from Bunnik, The Netherlands. | | I am sending this message (with Thunderbird + Enigmail) to test if I can | correctly sign my message. | | If this works, I guess the next steps will be to send someone a message | which is encrypted with his/her public key that I should be able to find | on some key-server, and ask that someone sends me some test-message that | is encrypted with my public key... | So, if someone would volunteer to help me check this, I'd be grateful. | | Thank you, | | Dannis. OpenPGP Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from Dannis 't Hart Key ID: 0xB8276FE9 / Signed on: 05/29/08 06:53 So far, so good. Encrypted reply coming separately. - -- ~ Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ~ alaric at caerllewys.net alaric at metrocast.net phil at co.ordinate.org ~ Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater ~ It's not the years, it's the mileage. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIPo9d0DfOju+hMkkRCASBAJ44FAMIQOHPCRGIyiW3JJkssQ2iXgCdGJWj 4Hl1Mg1tviWkikBhG7qvJNo= =YvW2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Thu May 29 04:11:18 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:11:18 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Signed test mail (Hello World) In-Reply-To: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> References: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> Message-ID: <483E8F56.1080300@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Welcome Dannis! > I am sending this message (with Thunderbird + Enigmail) to test if I can > correctly sign my message. Jep, my Enigmail automatically downloaded your public key and verified your message "UNTRUSTED Good signature" wich is fine. "Good signature" means that message integrity is OK, "UNTRUSTED" means that I did not yet sign your key since I don't know you and have not received your key's fingerprint by other means than email. > If this works, I guess the next steps will be to send someone a message > which is encrypted with his/her public key that I should be able to find > on some key-server, and ask that someone sends me some test-message that > is encrypted with my public key... Yes, probably. Althoug I am pretty sure that it will work without problems. Just to make sure: write encrypted email to individuals only, not the list! > So, if someone would volunteer to help me check this, I'd be grateful. Please go ahead, I'm sure you'll find my key since it resides on many key servers. If you query a server where it isn't, please tell me ;-) Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkg+j1UACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2l+QCgpCYGgakHJ5lbxQ9gT/smFAz0 GrsAn2iP//pFv9zR8Z/h6DxLS9agQQPq =XB45 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From oberon at qwest.net Thu May 29 04:43:07 2008 From: oberon at qwest.net (Oberon) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 06:43:07 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Signed test mail (Hello World) In-Reply-To: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> References: <483E8B0D.9000406@dds.nl> Message-ID: <483E96CB.20202@qwest.net> Dannis 't Hart wrote: > Hi, > > I am Dannis 't Hart, from Bunnik, The Netherlands. > > I am sending this message (with Thunderbird + Enigmail) to test if I can > correctly sign my message. > > If this works, I guess the next steps will be to send someone a message > which is encrypted with his/her public key that I should be able to find > on some key-server, and ask that someone sends me some test-message that > is encrypted with my public key... > So, if someone would volunteer to help me check this, I'd be grateful. > > Thank you, > > Dannis. Looks good: UNTRUSTED Good signature from Dannis 't Hart Key ID: 0xB8276FE9 / Signed on: 5/29/2008 5:53 AM Key fingerprint: D5EA D96D E097 DC84 671A 75DC 4FCA 58BF B827 6FE9 -- "It is a good morning exercise for a research scientist to discard a pet hypothesis every day before breakfast. It keeps him young." -- Konrad Lorenz --------------------------------------------------------------- Go ahead and criticize. My concept of reality is mostly guess- work anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pgpkeys.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 2377 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080529/34dfa763/attachment.bin From kor.kiley at uvm.edu Thu May 29 14:09:13 2008 From: kor.kiley at uvm.edu (Kor Kiley) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Enigmail Test In-Reply-To: <483E1B12.4040007@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> References: <483E02F5.5070305@uvm.edu> <483E05E9.904@uvm.edu> <483E1B12.4040007@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Message-ID: <483F1B79.9020700@uvm.edu> Well I straightened out the problem with the accidental revocation. I copied the REAL private key to my home computer and imported it. There were still problems (probably not with the keys) so I un-installed GPG and Thunderbird and reinstalled them and re-imported the private key. Since then everything has worked. John Clizbe wrote: > Kor Kiley wrote: >> I can send a signed or encrypted message OK from my computer at work, >> but sending from my home computer doesn't seem to work. The enigmail >> setup at work is new but I set up enigmail on my home computer a year or >> more ago. I had generated a key pair at the time but I no longer know >> what it is. > > Maybe this one?: > Kor Kiley > 1024 bit DSA key 47DA4835, created: 2007-09-19 > >> I downloaded the new public key (generated at work) from the key server and >> then imported my private key. This caused the key to show as revoked--on my >> home computer. Obviously I'm doing something wrong! > > Imported your "Private key"? Looks more like you imported the key revocation > certificate. How did you get your private key from work to your home machine? > > WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T SEND THIS REVOKED KEY TO A KEYSERVER UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT > WHAT'S UP - Things can probably be straightened out unless you publish the > revoked key > > Drop me another pvt reply and let me know a good IM address to reach you and we > can probably straighten this out pretty easily. > > AIM, GoogleTalk, then Yahoo work best for me. > > From tw296 at cam.ac.uk Thu May 29 15:29:23 2008 From: tw296 at cam.ac.uk (Thomas Wootten) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:29:23 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. Message-ID: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just another person testing enigmail. I've been signing stuff for a while now actually, but have yet to see if it works, or figure out how to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is there any easy way other than just asking them? Tom W -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIPy5DlJ5rBdVa2lQRAkyuAJwPTA3K9j+uEBjbi/lu0dKSTPPshgCgiB27 aRKKuf0ZpUGODe2D5HAHVKU= =A1Yv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chd at chud.net Fri May 30 10:06:00 2008 From: chd at chud.net (Chris De Young) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:06:00 -0700 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <484033F8.1090809@chud.net> Thomas Wootten wrote: > Just another person testing enigmail. I've been signing stuff for a > while now actually, but have yet to see if it works, or figure out how > to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is > there any easy way other than just asking them? > > Tom W The signature validates correctly for me - looks good! As far as finding out whether someone has a key, you can search the popular key servers (I usually use subkeys.pgp.net), or you can ask them for it. Asking them is probably better, if you have a way to be sure you know who you're asking, because that way you can make sure that the "John Smith" whose key you found is the same John Smith you want to talk to. Cheers, -Chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 250 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080530/9864e955/attachment.bin From faramir.cl at gmail.com Fri May 30 11:05:14 2008 From: faramir.cl at gmail.com (Faramir) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:05:14 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] About spanish translation of enigmail Message-ID: <484041DA.6020702@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yesterday I created another key pair, and noticed the "disclaimer" about the key generating process, it says: "NOTA: Generar la clave puede tardar varios minutos. No salga del navegador mientras se est? generando la clave. Realizar acciones diversas activamente con el navegador o que requieran un uso intensivo del disco durante el proceso, repercutir?n en la aleatoriedad del proceso. Cuando las claves se hayan generado, se le avisar?." (translating to English: "Note: Generating the key can take several minutes. Don't leave the browser while the key is being generated. Making actively random actions with the browser or requiring heavy disk use during the process, will have effects on the randomness of the process. Once the keys has been generated, you will receive a notification.") The translation to Spanish is very good, BUT... it doesn't say if the random actions and heavy disk use would have good or bad effects over the process... so the first time, I tried to don't touch anything... (and I was wrong because latter I saw such activities have good and desired effect, to gather entropy). I don't know if in English version it also lacks the "good" word... it should be "will have _good_ effects on the randomness..." or something like that... maybe it would be worth changing a bit that message, on the next version. Regards -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJIQEHaAAoJEMV4f6PvczxASX4H/iK0UGGJ/o9K3AMuLG9qSWD1 AwPvL4sksIn8Q/Rcp1YJw+TYTeucuAM96HD/B4P0U1VUbvYkitDWWAnYxnkg5Scs art1OfzbmjMfQtsWDOnA7jaxiU5nZdsM/zZBMDzQP19v8WN4P4BMYlmXJqr/11Do QMKV7ZoTvdcBvTbNYXNZ4qyUbrOlinrSrIY9Auq1F+O7rH210x3esBdXmDqgEP+3 JTLTGdJTrRfSL9awNPh66bhh3rqPW+6D0epPd6zNPv2TfQSVyf73gzX8POIKl7nV d3MUbTP9icfjyVwsBqBsZy9jIeb/nx1MQ0/E3vUFchbLemmVz4CrGKrpO6wOUY0= =oZzU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From shavital at mac.com Fri May 30 08:03:51 2008 From: shavital at mac.com (Charly Avital) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:03:51 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <48401757.7070407@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Thomas Wootten wrote the following on 5/29/08 6:29 PM: > Just another person testing enigmail. I've been signing stuff for a > while now actually, but have yet to see if it works, or figure out how > to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is > there any easy way other than just asking them? > > Tom W Tom, First things first: your signature verifies: OpenPGP Security Info Good signature from Thomas Wootten Key ID: 0xD55ADA54 / Signed on: 5/29/08 6:29 PM Key fingerprint: DDEC 3821 0392 81F0 82BE 1B88 949E 6B05 D55A DA54 This information not only means that your signature verifies, it also means that your public key 0xD55ADA54 has been downloaded from a key server, imported into my public keyring, and used to verify your signature. So that's one way to get other people's keys. Another way is to use the reverse procedure. I am going to sign this message, and if your User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) with X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 have been configured to query a key server, eventually my primary key 0xA57A8EFA will be downloaded from that key server, imported into your public key ring, and used to verify my signature. I am actually signing with the signing subkey 0x855B83EF of my primary key, but don't let this bother you for the moment, it does not change the result. If for any reason my key 0xA57A8EFA is not downloaded from a key server, you might try to search for it directly, meaning not through the combined mechanism of Enigmail and GnuPG, but using the Terminal. You are a Linux user, you should have a Terminal, where you could type, after the prompt: [your computer's name]$ gpg --recv-key 0xA57A8EFA. This will function *only* if your configuration file for gnupg, named gpg.conf, includes an option for the use of a keyserver. If not, the command line *could* be, at the Terminal prompt: [computer's]$ gpg --keyserver pgp.uni-mainz.de --recv-key 0xA57A8EFA This command line instructions to use a keyserver named pgp-uni-mainz.de. A different keyserver could have been used. When you get my key 0xA57A8EFA into your public key ring, you should edit the Per Recipient Rules to use that key when sending an e-mail to me, *if* you want to encrypt that e-mail. Please *don't* send encrypted e-mails to the list. Charly MacOS 10.5.3 - MacBook Intel C2Duo - GnuPG 1.4.9 - GPG2 2.0.9 - Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 - Enigmail 0.96a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (Darwin) Comment: GnuPG for Privacy Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJIQBdUAAoJEM3GMi2FW4PvaZIIALWZ7iRYcXHz6XWL0nJgoW/n ixN0djbwYQk7tws+x660tkrjzGd5UZU/nPBUHG81pSPhVZv1FlT6ixjSByl+Bn5q LPQjCfMozgjkOI30LDtCEOD1bPxOBBzUmhyG1OE8qPFYKnsRtP7hJx95mJxzMko7 VH4kSJOp745cPifdn58Qr0KrfczGCdkVliOE+AoWMy5Z5R2SLlLq3WU8+U/+caQq 0DzKzBPMo9E4tv+AQJHBwAayEEhRtiaXdy5S/LtQ+DxwgUk6DTPv2c1ICV0qYfI0 GssxAFabNUKm4r+MaNdjMqPjC8wNr2yYEWzNCANQ0qCTR5pq6tvJh6uiKm3eq3k= =mO6K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net Fri May 30 08:16:23 2008 From: jmoore3rd at bellsouth.net (John W. Moore III) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <48401A47.6050108@bellsouth.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Thomas Wootten wrote: > to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. Signing Works! :) To test Encryption feel free to Send Me an encrypted Email directly. > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is > there any easy way other than just asking them? Search Your preferred Keyserver. This can be done by Searching by Email Address. BigLumber.com & PGP Global Directory ldap://keyserver.pgp.com HTH JOHN ;) Timestamp: Friday 30 May 2008, 11:16 --400 (Eastern Daylight Time) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.5.0-svn4754: (MingW32) Comment: Public Key at: http://tinyurl.com/8cpho Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: https://www.gswot.org Comment: Homepage: http://tinyurl.com/yzhbhx iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJIQBpFAAoJEBCGy9eAtCsPP9cH/RxOPT4Y1byq/KUJIVrf4MWC cD11u4OYBMiZQrTv+8cJVjf3fiIjo96cvJiJUsI+miR1hL7S6Bd8rlVJUBP663gt T9gk1fiD7C54hBsVuZSd8X7QLRkludvNOvjXha510e5sU9uVQjGr30JTGrie/uN0 6kptAR+ELbiEaS3oAGnRmGqWLPFgEAHNPfwTMXmSMKhAcWUzs2do1sHNBmhDnzAT RxhguEAIlaGTcOKMNAUckrrMzABJNZt1IurtIB9jJBcLdY4IO0jXK32tUlye7DCG c46PI2BVRjCpp0CSssbZesk+f3Fu8zxpoTCZAaVVgDKUL7pZko5gBNefZMor3Io= =mKgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org Fri May 30 19:46:13 2008 From: John at Mozilla-Enigmail.org (John Clizbe) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4840BBF5.1080702@Mozilla-Enigmail.org> Thomas Wootten wrote: > Just another person testing enigmail. I've been signing stuff for a > while now actually, but have yet to see if it works, or figure out how > to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. World's simplest encryption test: send yourself an encrypted message. (This works additionally for testing signing, but you already have that working.) > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is > there any easy way other than just asking them? You can search on the keyservers; eg jpclizbe at yogi ~ $ gpg --search-keys tw296 gpg: searching for "tw296" from hkp server 192.168.0.4 (1) Thomas Wootten 1024 bit DSA key D55ADA54, created: 2008-03-31 Keys 1-1 of 1 for "tw296". Enter number(s), N)ext, or Q)uit > But it's usually better to ask as the person may have several keys and wish you to use a particular one. -- John P. Clizbe Inet: John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. PGP/GPG KeyID: 0x608D2A10/0x18BB373A "what's the key to success?" / "two words: good decisions." "what's the key to good decisions?" / "one word: experience." "how do i get experience?" / "two words: bad decisions." "Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations?" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 677 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/attachments/20080530/1b5a92c2/attachment.bin From rhomme at gmail.com Thu May 29 19:35:29 2008 From: rhomme at gmail.com (Richard Homme) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:35:29 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail signing (first test) Message-ID: <483F67F1.5040001@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm just testing my Enigmail/OpenPGP installation in Thunderbird, and dutifully following the suggested procedure. I'd appreciate any help I can get from this list! I'm serving as the communications chair for a local political organization (Northumberland/Quinte West Federal Green Party Association, Canada) and we want to make sure private internal communications remain private. We have reason to suspect that this has not always been the case, but then we have been pretty casual about our communications. We need to tighten things up a bit. So - this is test #1. Signing. If someone can help me test encryption, I'd really appreciate it! Richard Homme Cobourg, Ontario, Canada -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP2fxwLqBbG8u9YkRAp+GAKDYgxz3Nan5S1RFn7y62dUEgJZcVwCfRj2N rFckaCEECrRWAI3pODlzdDA= =7SVC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From olav at mozilla-enigmail.org Fri May 30 09:46:51 2008 From: olav at mozilla-enigmail.org (Olav Seyfarth) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:46:51 +0200 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <48402F7B.70808@mozilla-enigmail.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Thomas, > I want to see if it works, or figure out how to do encryption. your signature verifies fine after loading your key from the keyserver. How to do encryption: click on the gray key in the lower right of your message compose window. > So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. You may encrypt to me (NOT to the list) to test encryption. > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; > is there any easy way other than just asking them? Yes, by looking on the keyserver or his / her homepage. But I you don't find anything there you have to ask. I'm sure you'll find my key since there are hints in this email's headers, on my homepage, on the keyservers, and if you set up everyting fine, Enigmail will download my key for you. Enjoy, Olav -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Diese ist eine Digitale Signatur nach OpenPGP-Standard Comment: Weitere Informationen: http://privat.seyfarth.de/olav/schluessel.html iEYEAREIAAYFAkhAL3kACgkQL/NBt8fdKe2hxwCgjRcaHboxKaRPFcrIu9zSikqK D9AAnj7wN3YgRkb6pE5AyHWIZb18aeH3 =e14f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rhomme at gmail.com Thu May 29 18:41:57 2008 From: rhomme at gmail.com (Richard Homme) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:41:57 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Testing Enigmail - signed only Message-ID: <483F5B65.2090904@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm just testing my Enigmail/OpenPGP installation in Thunderbird, and dutifully following the suggested procedure. I'd appreciate any help I can get from this list! I'm serving as the communications chair for a local political organization (Northumberland/Quinte West Federal Green Party Association, Canada) and we want to make sure private internal communications remain private. We have reason to suspect that this has not always been the case, but we have been pretty casual about our communications. We need to tighten things up a bit. So - this is test #1. Signing. If someone can help me test encryption, I'd really appreciate it! Richard Homme Cobourg, Ontario, Canada -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIP1tlwLqBbG8u9YkRAopRAKCX7lXmHcpchEtKPMreLrJWXpjN6gCfWhll jbiyHTniP+jOfnefHNskps0= =a5qD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rhomme at gmail.com Fri May 30 08:28:24 2008 From: rhomme at gmail.com (Richard Homme) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:28:24 -0400 Subject: [Enigmail] Yet another first test (signing) Message-ID: <48401D18.9040001@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm just testing my Enigmail/OpenPGP installation in Thunderbird, and dutifully following the suggested procedure. So - this is test #1. Signing. If someone can help me test encryption, I'd really appreciate it! Thanks! Richard Homme Cobourg, Ontario, Canada -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIQB0XwLqBbG8u9YkRAjrrAJ9fhTGd0bKVEmSPja+nTTwWL1dLgACgweLH zui8MoVJKBRqRMFOuSbNhSE= =wvK/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bjtasker at btasker.me.uk Fri May 30 09:21:57 2008 From: bjtasker at btasker.me.uk (Bernard Tasker) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:21:57 +0100 Subject: [Enigmail] Just another person testing enigmail. In-Reply-To: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> References: <483F2E43.1060905@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <484029A5.7080907@btasker.me.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Signed OK as per: OpenPGP Security Info UNTRUSTED Good signature from Thomas Wootten Key ID: 0xD55ADA54 / Signed on: 29/05/2008 23:29 Key fingerprint: DDEC 3821 0392 81F0 82BE 1B88 949E 6B05 D55A DA54 Feel free to send me and enccrypted message off list if you wish - ------------------------------------------------------- Bernard Tasker Skype name bernardtasker OpenPGP public key 0x7E4FCF7 available on keyservers e.g.: http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Text block at http://tinyurl.com/yp3gsu - ------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Wootten wrote: > Just another person testing enigmail. I've been signing stuff for a > while now actually, but have yet to see if it works, or figure out how > to do encryption. So a quick check on the encryption side would be good. > In particular, how to go about finding out if someone has a key; is > there any easy way other than just asking them? > > Tom W _______________________________________________ Enigmail mailing list Enigmail at mozdev.org https://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhAKaUACgkQqPQ3uX5O/PcwlACggepV4Wz73EAXk+7/gGczTK/S uhsAni4aP+1svbk5SgebZfj6f3B7LvM/ =LQtL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From danielclark591 at gmail.com Fri May 30 11:25:30 2008 From: danielclark591 at gmail.com (Daniel Clark) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:25:30 -0500 Subject: [Enigmail] Hello Secure World Message-ID: <4840469A.6090805@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey Enigmailers, I just got my portable version of Thuderbird running with Enigmail and I'm looking to see if I've got all the configurations set up correctly. I currently use a Hush Mail account but I don't like that I have to log on to their site or pay money to use the IMAP feature... So anyways if I can get this Thunderbird w/ Enigmail setup correctly I'm planning on telling every single person I know how they can do it for themselves! Thanks in advance for the help. Regards, Dan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIQEaZkfQJ8lFMjbQRAqMhAKCSBi14hlcGSHioRaIilJ1hDX8WAQCeOvRu Sf71YEQccvpZz1LyvOogY5s= =ISRg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----