Apr 21 10:02:33 we can get this meeting going if everyone's ready.. Apr 21 10:02:36 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin discussion -- agenda overview (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda) Apr 21 10:02:41 how is everyone? Apr 21 10:02:52 good here Apr 21 10:03:24 on the agenda today: Apr 21 10:03:24 * Discuss developer priorities Apr 21 10:03:24 * Discuss sysadmin priorities Apr 21 10:03:24 * Staging Server Migration & Failover Server Setup Apr 21 10:04:19 Ok Doug you can start Apr 21 10:04:29 sure Apr 21 10:04:36 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin discussion -- developer priorities (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda) Apr 21 10:04:57 I've been on making edit-in-place (bug#20466) more robust recently (handle more error cases, adding tests) Apr 21 10:05:01 Bug https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20466 normal, P3, ---, silfreed@silfreed.net, ASSIGNED, Allow website content to be edited from WYSIWYG Apr 21 10:05:08 also have had some project support on-and-off Apr 21 10:05:34 I'd also like to discuss bug#20805 so we can try to wrap that up soonish Apr 21 10:05:35 Bug https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20805 normal, P3, ---, gjm@strg.at, ASSIGNED, New lists' host not set to "mozdev.org" Apr 21 10:05:39 that bug should be a P1! Apr 21 10:05:49 silly bugzilla Apr 21 10:06:04 it can't keep up with our roadmap Apr 21 10:06:36 so 20805, have the list been changed over yet? Apr 21 10:07:26 I don't think so; I had asked gjm if it was easy to tell how many people would be affected... Apr 21 10:07:48 239 lists or thereabout I think he mentioned Apr 21 10:08:38 right; I don't know how many people are subscribed to those lists, though Apr 21 10:08:43 ok, so "number of posts" should read the number of subscribers currently active on those lists? Apr 21 10:08:55 sure, that might be a good estimate Apr 21 10:09:16 why do we need that number? Apr 21 10:09:44 just to get a guage on how many people we'd affect by fixing this and how loudly we might need to announce this Apr 21 10:09:56 well, those are the number of people who may need to adjust their mail filters, procmail settings, etc. Apr 21 10:10:40 * KaiRo has quit (Input/output error) Apr 21 10:10:51 right; the host_name (currently set to mozdev.mozdev.org for those 239 lists) goes in the List-Id header that lots of people filter on Apr 21 10:10:54 ok Apr 21 10:11:48 * KaiRo (robert@moz-F2134722.gumpendorf.xdsl-line.inode.at) has joined #mozdev Apr 21 10:11:52 btw: this is not a new change, the MX for mozdev has been set to mozdev.mozdev.org for quite a while now Apr 21 10:11:53 I think we had this issue at some point in the past so I currently filter on: "/List-Id:.*feedback\.mozdev/" (without the \.org on the end) Apr 21 10:12:05 yeah; just being noticed now Apr 21 10:14:05 I'll update the bug with some membership numbers after the meeting Apr 21 10:14:41 that's fine. I'm probably just being overly pedantic about it and should just announce it to the PO list and blog and let you fix it Apr 21 10:15:30 anything else that anyone would like to go over for my stuff? Apr 21 10:15:32 Ping the PO list warning about the switchover Apr 21 10:15:38 first Apr 21 10:15:41 kinger: right Apr 21 10:16:04 I'm thinking ping PO and blog, then wait a day, if that's good for you gjm? Apr 21 10:16:12 I'm currently dumping the lists configs, It'll take a few minutes to build the list of lists that'll need changing Apr 21 10:16:24 k Apr 21 10:16:29 silfreed: sure Apr 21 10:16:55 gjm : thanks Apr 21 10:17:13 silfreed : updates on other tasks? Apr 21 10:18:33 for edit-in-place, I need to ping the mozile dev about the issues eric brought up; uploading a new page works (need to handle errors better), and I need to work on the image upload Apr 21 10:19:01 ok Apr 21 10:19:09 are there any other media to be handled? Apr 21 10:19:34 not initially, I don't think; we could look into others in the future if there are requests I think Apr 21 10:19:48 yes, lets keep it simple Apr 21 10:20:35 I think that's it for me Apr 21 10:21:13 is the install of edit-in-place up to date on brian.mozdev.org? Apr 21 10:21:26 brian.vebzom.org; should be working Apr 21 10:21:57 ah; I have saving broken right now Apr 21 10:21:58 sorry Apr 21 10:22:23 I'm trying to make some changes there Apr 21 10:22:50 it was previously saving all the editable sections (navigation, content) even if you didn't edit them Apr 21 10:23:25 I'll ping the bug when that's fixed Apr 21 10:24:00 ok i'll hold off testing, vebzom is fine Apr 21 10:25:06 gjm, want to go over anything you've been working on? Apr 21 10:25:11 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin discussion -- sysadmin priorities (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda) Apr 21 10:26:12 sure; 3 main points in the last weeks: stats, VM, & freebsd 6 -> 7 upgrade Apr 21 10:26:59 Doug, are we running with the latest drupal? Apr 21 10:28:01 drupal 5.16 appears to be in use; 6.x is the lastest line Apr 21 10:28:11 gjm is correct Apr 21 10:28:49 iirc doug was in the process of customizing drupal for our install while v6 was still beta Apr 21 10:29:00 correct again Apr 21 10:29:31 Are our customisations easily ported to new Drupal versions? Apr 21 10:30:14 I haven't done any research into what would need done yet; our biggest things are the authentication module and our install profile that sets up new sites with a default config for blog, wiki, and forums Apr 21 10:30:40 * cdn-work (cdn@moz-4FD6F8FA.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #mozdev Apr 21 10:30:42 Ok, just keep one eye on that without diving in yet Apr 21 10:31:10 sure Apr 21 10:32:56 gjm: any update on server migration/VM status? Apr 21 10:32:59 gjm : sorry to interrupt there ... please continue about those 3 issues you mentioned Apr 21 10:33:13 * hijax (rbango@moz-F688FD24.mia.bellsouth.net) has joined #mozdev Apr 21 10:35:27 sure #1 web stats: I'm currently ironing out the kinks in the awstats config to produce per-country visitor totals, along with some data to produce the top 50 list Apr 21 10:36:02 If all goes well producing per-project stats should be straight forward Apr 21 10:36:36 is there a bug on this? Should we be adding these stats to the project home page? Apr 21 10:36:52 #2 the osuosl VM is running, but I'm currently hitting memory limits with #1 Apr 21 10:37:07 e.g. https://www.mozdev.org/projects/overview/mycroft/ Apr 21 10:37:32 quite an old one: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=124 Apr 21 10:37:34 Bug 124: normal, P2, ---, gjm@strg.at, ASSIGNED, Support for project-specific log analysis Apr 21 10:37:56 kinger: I'd like to add those stats to the overview page once they're available Apr 21 10:38:12 I don't think there's a bug for that, though Apr 21 10:38:29 ok... Apr 21 10:38:35 I can file one Apr 21 10:38:41 don't think so, #124 just mentions an unstyled awstats page per project Apr 21 10:38:42 gjm : please update the bug with the latest Apr 21 10:38:57 sure Apr 21 10:39:09 silfreed : feel free to open a new bug and mark it as dependent on 124 Apr 21 10:40:43 just for completion: #3 vebzom has been updated from freebsd 6.1 to 7.1; doing the same on production will require downtime, though Apr 21 10:43:10 gjm : we discussed over the weekend a server reshuffle, and I don't recall all the details. Could you dig up that proposal you and tanker made last year as a starting point Apr 21 10:45:04 I'll have a look for it. The general idea was a second machine @ mozilla hosting probably mail, lists, perhaps a downloads instance. Apr 21 10:45:17 not fro discussion now, but on the list Apr 21 10:45:30 ok, sure thing Apr 21 10:45:43 yes, that should be a priority Apr 21 10:45:45 thanks Apr 21 10:46:12 what was your suggestion for getting around the memory limits on the osuosl VM? Apr 21 10:48:20 Well for that I've thrown away the default awstats config & am currently using a tweaked config with lots of things deactivated, and only enabling the required functionality as needed. That has dropped the memory consumption dramastically - little to now swapping now. Apr 21 10:48:56 s/to now/to no/; Apr 21 10:48:59 ok, but we are capturing the stats we need? Apr 21 10:49:30 silfreed: BTW you should be able to log in there Apr 21 10:50:05 gjm: thanks; I'll check Apr 21 10:50:34 The logs are archived, its just a matter of processing them effectively to produce the information we'd need for the top 50 Apr 21 10:53:40 A raw version is visible @ http://stats.mozdev.org/cgi-bin/awstats.pl?config=mozdev.org-snafu ; from the first couple of days this month Apr 21 10:54:53 Whats new is the geo referencing of client IPs & some other stats that'll not be so interesting for the public Apr 21 10:55:26 ok Apr 21 10:55:31 any other items? Apr 21 10:56:24 just the usual minor tasks: sw updates, support, etc. Apr 21 10:57:05 that's a lot of 404s Apr 21 10:57:38 * beawesomeinstead (beawesomei@moz-597FD353.pool.ukrtel.net) has joined #mozdev Apr 21 10:58:33 61.9% ? ! Apr 21 10:59:14 ;) not of all requests, just those that are not returning a 304 or 200 status code Apr 21 11:00:43 anything else anyone would like to discuss? Apr 21 11:00:49 ccaygill mentioned a while back that people were direct linking to mycroft uris that were never used Apr 21 11:00:52 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin discussion -- other topics (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda) Apr 21 11:01:42 silfreed: Don't think so Apr 21 11:03:25 vg Apr 21 11:03:33 thanks for coming by everyone! Apr 21 11:03:48 thats it Apr 21 11:03:51 thanks guys Apr 21 11:04:03 let's keep in touch on the list until next week Apr 21 11:04:07 I'll post minutes & logs shortly Apr 21 11:04:10 sure thing Apr 21 11:04:14 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Discussion of and support for free project hosting at mozdev.org -- logs available at http://irc.mozdev.orgI' Apr 21 11:04:18 * silfreed has changed the topic to: Discussion of and support for free project hosting at mozdev.org -- logs available at http://irc.mozdev.org