10:55:10 <silfreed>	sysadmin meeting in ~5 minutes; agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda
10:59:15 <davidwboswell>	morning
10:59:33 <silfreed>	hi david
11:00:04 <davidwboswell>	how was your thanksgiving?
11:00:27 <silfreed>	pretty good
11:00:29 <silfreed>	turkey, eh?
11:00:34 <davidwboswell>	yeah...
11:00:53 <silfreed>	yours good?
11:01:09 <davidwboswell>	it was pretty good.
11:01:29 <davidwboswell>	although, i think the biscuits and veggie stuff were better :)
11:01:37 <silfreed>	I'm sure :)
11:02:27 <silfreed>	get started?
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11:02:33 <davidwboswell>	hey gjm
11:02:38 <davidwboswell>	good timing
11:02:38 <gjm>	hey
11:02:43 <davidwboswell>	yeah, let's get started
11:03:22 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin meeting  -- agenda items (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:03:35 <silfreed>	up on the agenda appears to be:
11:03:39 <silfreed>	* Discuss developer priorities 
11:03:39 <silfreed>	* Discuss sysadmin priorities 
11:03:39 <silfreed>	* Staging Server Migration & Failover Server Setup
11:03:58 <davidwboswell>	it's a good agenda, so why change it?  :)
11:03:58 <silfreed>	I'll get started w/ my updates (short for a short week)
11:04:05 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin meeting  -- developer priorities (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:04:42 <silfreed>	Mostly just worked on running project creation scripts from a cron job using sudo to reduce privileges needed when creating projects
11:05:23 <silfreed>	right now I'm trying to write some tests for the project creation process to make sure it works properly
11:05:25 <davidwboswell>	what's left with that?
11:05:39 <silfreed>	testing, mostly
11:05:45 <davidwboswell>	great
11:06:04 <silfreed>	I need to write an interface to ask for usernames when someone approves a project; that should be minor
11:06:45 <silfreed>	that's about it
11:06:49 <davidwboswell>	thanks
11:06:52 <silfreed>	gjm: any updates from you?
11:06:56 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin meeting  -- sysadmin priorities (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
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11:07:45 <gjm>	just the one; I've made a start for moving to freebsd 7
11:08:09 <gjm>	php4 is now gone from vebzom & various other things will be moving around there in the near future
11:08:27 <gjm>	so expect some (minor) problems
11:09:38 <gjm>	thats all; nothing else from me
11:12:02 <silfreed>	sorry; flakey internet this morning
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11:12:33 <silfreed>	sorry; flakey internet this morning
11:12:39 <davidwboswell>	np
11:12:47 <silfreed>	last I saw was: <gjm> thats all; nothing else from me
11:13:03 <davidwboswell>	<davidwboswell>	so for migrating
11:13:05 <davidwboswell>		<davidwboswell>	i mentioned last week that i paid the latest invoice from web stop
11:13:06 <davidwboswell>		<davidwboswell>	so we have some time before we'd have to pay the next one
11:13:07 <davidwboswell>		<davidwboswell>	and doug mentioned we're about ready to migrate the production stuff off that machine
11:13:38 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin meeting  -- server migration (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:13:40 <davidwboswell>	i just wanted to discuss moving forward with that and wanted to see if we had an estimate for when that will happen
11:14:38 <gjm>	is the billing cycle monthly or quarterly?
11:14:43 <davidwboswell>	quarterly
11:15:13 <davidwboswell>	it's not a huge deal if we have to pay another invoice, but i'd certainly prefer to not if we have a free option
11:15:36 <silfreed>	looks like something broke w/ the mirror composition on the new VM, but previously it was ready to go
11:15:42 <silfreed>	I'll take a look at that to figure out what's up
11:15:43 <davidwboswell>	does it seem reasonable to migrate what we need from that box and have it shipped out in 3 months?
11:16:20 <gjm>	thats more than enough time - a dead line for start/mid feb 2009 is doable
11:16:28 <davidwboswell>	great
11:16:58 <silfreed>	gjm: any plans to migrate the amazon vm to mozdev-stats?
11:18:14 <gjm>	not currently; but I'll have a look at getting that moved soon
11:18:36 <davidwboswell>	that would be good.  again, not a big cost, but if we don't need to pay it that would be great.
11:19:12 <davidwboswell>	is there an estimate for how long the stats migration might take?
11:19:18 <gjm>	hopefully any teething problems with the new VM are over; disabling amazon should be pretty straight forward
11:19:59 <silfreed>	how much disk space does our archived logs take?
11:20:41 <gjm>	I'll have a look...
11:21:32 <gjm>	~110GB compressed by the look of it
11:22:15 <silfreed>	wow
11:22:29 <silfreed>	does OSUOSL offer a means to store that kind of disk space?
11:22:40 <gjm>	I'll move the daily processing this week & try to extimate how long it'd take to reprocess
11:22:41 <silfreed>	or would we need to look at just keeping it on the staging machine w/ upgraded drives?
11:23:05 <silfreed>	heh. "store that kind of disk space."  that's silly.
11:23:29 <davidwboswell>	gjm, sounds good.  let me know when we can turn off the amazon account.
11:23:30 <gjm>	OSUOSL has storage space - but more in the lines of back/storage & not so much "live" disk capacity is available
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11:24:25 <gjm>	so moving those to staging is an option if that machine gets some shiny new platters
11:24:50 <silfreed>	k
11:25:19 <gjm>	or simply deleting after awstats has processed them all correctly...
11:26:10 <silfreed>	I'd be afraid that there would be some stats we'd like to gather after we've initially processed them
11:26:14 <silfreed>	but they do take a up a lot of space
11:26:26 <silfreed>	at 100M/day, it adds up
11:27:33 <gjm>	on the otherhand disk is cheap - 110GB for ~2.5 years is not so an extreme amount of data these days
11:28:06 <gjm>	Heard anything from the mozilla community giving project?
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11:28:32 <silfreed>	nope; no updates for a couple months
11:29:03 <davidwboswell>	might be worth pinging seth
11:29:12 <silfreed>	sure thing
11:29:38 <davidwboswell>	so it looks like finish up the migration will need to be an early 2009 goal
11:29:42 <silfreed>	disks sure are cheap; $0.11/GB for the 1.5TB drives
11:30:06 <silfreed>	I just bought one for $150 USD
11:30:13 <silfreed>	davidwboswell: yeah, most likely
11:30:28 <silfreed>	we can probably pull the staging server out early 2009
11:30:46 <silfreed>	and work on the stats machine after we get the staging server back up w/ bigger disks
11:30:53 <davidwboswell>	and amazon will need to wait for that to happen so we have a place to put those logs?
11:30:54 <silfreed>	*stats VM
11:30:58 <silfreed>	right
11:31:07 <davidwboswell>	ok, thanks for going over the plan
11:31:38 <davidwboswell>	anything else to discuss?
11:32:16 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Mozdev sysadmin meeting  -- other topics (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:32:41 <silfreed>	gjm: could you remove the smtp block from mozdev.org for my IP?
11:32:49 <silfreed>	it'll make my nagios happier :)
11:32:51 <gjm>	don't think so...
11:33:10 <silfreed>	I was probably auto-blocked by your spam-checker script
11:33:18 <silfreed>	68.83.40.100
11:33:54 <gjm>	silfreed: aah - sure - there was some smtp floods a few weeks ago; perhaps you landed on the blacklist - sorry about that
11:34:09 <silfreed>	no biggie
11:34:25 <silfreed>	it's actually really old, but comcast was blocking my outbound smtp for awhile and that only recently let up
11:35:03 <silfreed>	otherwise nothing from me
11:38:58 <silfreed>	if that's it I'll post logs & minutes shortly
11:40:50 <silfreed>	thanks for coming by, everyone
11:41:09 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Discussion of and support for free project hosting at mozdev.or
11:41:45 <gjm>	you should now be unblocked for smtp; let me know if otherwise
11:41:52 <silfreed>	sure; thanks!