11:00:04 <silfreed>	hi davidwboswell 
11:00:13 <davidwboswell>	morning silfreed
11:00:15 <davidwboswell>	how are things?
11:00:29 <silfreed>	pretty good; you?
11:00:53 <davidwboswell>	it's been hectic the last couple of weeks, but am looking forward to the break coming up
11:01:00 <davidwboswell>	what are you doing for thanksgiving?
11:02:11 <silfreed>	butchering
11:02:28 <silfreed>	sorry :-/
11:02:32 <davidwboswell>	np :)
11:02:37 <davidwboswell>	you staying where you are or travelling?
11:03:16 <silfreed>	no traveling; I think my sister is coming up Thursday, so we'll go to my parents' Thursday evening and on Friday probably
11:03:28 <silfreed>	other stuff is w/ my wife's family Wed and Thurs.
11:03:52 <davidwboswell>	nice
11:04:03 <davidwboswell>	btw, do you want to wait for gerry or go ahead and get started?
11:04:55 <silfreed>	I haven't seen gjm around much for awhile
11:05:06 <silfreed>	I'm thinking he's been busy w/ other projects
11:05:18 <davidwboswell>	i see tanker here, let's ping him
11:05:23 <davidwboswell>	tanker, you around?
11:07:09 <davidwboswell>	since we haven't been meeting recently i imagine we just need to let gerry know we're meeting again regularly
11:07:26 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: mozdev.org sysadmin meeting -- agenda overview (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:07:37 <davidwboswell>	why don't you and i talk for a bit and we can post notes and let people know we're meeting again
11:08:04 <davidwboswell>	i'd like to go over project creation and hosting issues.  if you have other agenda items, let's go over those too
11:08:26 <silfreed>	sure; the agenda is pretty minimal anyway:
11:08:38 <silfreed>	* Discuss developer priorities 
11:08:38 <silfreed>	* Discuss sysadmin priorities 
11:08:38 <silfreed>	* Staging Server Migration & Failover Server Setup
11:08:54 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: mozdev.org sysadmin meeting -- developer priorities (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:09:20 <davidwboswell>	ok, let's start with your priorities
11:09:43 <silfreed>	the pending project stuff has been going well; the admin page is pretty useful for keeping track of what projects have been requested, confirmed, etc
11:10:01 <silfreed>	it also shows what features still need setup (bugzilla, mailing list, cvs, newsgroup, etc)
11:10:56 <silfreed>	I've also been trying to work on improving security; but I had to take some time to write a log replay and log analysis tools to be able to effectively see what we're breaking
11:11:29 <silfreed>	those tools seem to be working well, so now I'm just iterating testing making changes and reviewing logs
11:13:47 <davidwboswell>	re project creation, what is left and how long do you think it will take to put in place?
11:13:47 <silfreed>	so for the pending project stuff I'm currently trying to get the CVS, maillist, newgroup creation part going
11:15:07 <silfreed>	I don't think there's a lot left for that part which would automate most of the current stuff; probably about a week left
11:15:39 <davidwboswell>	good to hear it's not too much.  so at that point pete's part would be automated and he wouldn't need to do anything himself?
11:16:06 <silfreed>	I have some other fringe features like email replies from inside the admin page left to do, but that can be added as needed if we want to move on to other things
11:16:11 <silfreed>	riht
11:16:13 <silfreed>	*right
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11:16:22 <davidwboswell>	yeah, the other stuff like email replies are nice to have
11:16:38 <silfreed>	bugzilla would be the other part that would be really nice to have, but will require some more research
11:16:40 <davidwboswell>	i'm just concerned mainly about improving turn around time once a project is ready to be requested
11:16:48 <silfreed>	definitely
11:16:54 <davidwboswell>	having to wait days or a week means we are losing people who would have used their projects
11:17:32 <silfreed>	2009: the year of instant Mozdev project creation!
11:17:43 <davidwboswell>	it only took 9 years :)
11:17:52 <davidwboswell>	sounds like you've got the right plan for the projects
11:18:08 <davidwboswell>	deal with pete's stuff and then we'll circle back and polish the other bits
11:18:19 <silfreed>	I don't think I have a bug for myk's suggestion of auto-creating projects for existing users
11:18:19 <davidwboswell>	re, the latest batch -- did you ping pete about that?
11:18:31 <silfreed>	need to add that
11:18:35 <davidwboswell>	yeah, that's a good one to have
11:18:48 <silfreed>	I didn't ping pete directly, just on the list; would that be good to do?
11:19:00 <davidwboswell>	yeah, i usually have to ping him directly
11:19:09 <davidwboswell>	i'd just ask him to get this batch done before the thanskgiving break
11:20:11 <davidwboswell>	anything else about project creation?
11:20:56 <silfreed>	ping sent
11:21:00 <davidwboswell>	thanks
11:21:20 <silfreed>	nope
11:21:47 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: mozdev.org sysadmin meeting -- server migration (agenda: http://www.mozdev.org/drupal/wiki/SysadminMeetingAgenda)
11:21:57 <silfreed>	skipping over sysadmin priorities to server migration
11:22:32 <silfreed>	I believe the last production service from our staging server is ready to migrate off to our new VM at OSUOSL (our mirror master)
11:23:22 <davidwboswell>	great.  i'll renew the web stop hosting for another quarter just so we have time to handle that
11:23:37 <davidwboswell>	and then we'll have time to coordinate what to do with that machine
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11:24:13 <davidwboswell>	so at that point all production stuff will be at osuosl?
11:24:20 <davidwboswell>	we haven't done anything with moco hosting yet?
11:25:36 <silfreed>	right; I haven't heard anything more from seth about community giving stuff since I sent the reply out at the beginning of october
11:25:57 <silfreed>	and we've been waiting on getting services off of vebzom before pulling it to go to moco
11:26:23 <davidwboswell>	ok, no rush then.  we can take care of migrating the services and then worry about the box
11:26:40 <davidwboswell>	in terms of other services, is there a plan to migrate the services off of the amazon vm?
11:27:27 <silfreed>	I'd have to check w/ gerry since I didn't setup the log analysis stuff; but I think they are planning on moving the stuff
11:27:35 <davidwboswell>	ok, great
11:27:43 <davidwboswell>	we can check with him next week
11:27:58 <silfreed>	we got a decent size partition (~35G); I think the intention was to be able to move the archived logs over there
11:28:08 <davidwboswell>	ok, sounds like we're moving in the right direction
11:28:40 <davidwboswell>	anything else you'd like to go over?
11:29:35 <silfreed>	not right now
11:29:49 <davidwboswell>	ok
11:29:53 <davidwboswell>	hope you enjoy your holiday
11:30:03 *	silfreed has changed the topic to: Discussion of and support for free project hosting at mozdev.org